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| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by Enosa1(m): 7:52am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Hmm...just here is observe. Ehn...what was the topic again. |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by cosmatika(m): 7:54am On Jul 08, 2014 |
JOHESU is synonymous wit inferiority complex. Their problem is like the story of a monkey who shaved his beards, rubbed Powder & carried his oga car to go and look for a gal, cos he wnts to be lyk his master 28 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by Oduduwaboy(m): 7:54am On Jul 08, 2014 |
PerfectFortune: It is only in Nigeria that the Drs want to head all aspects of the medical profession but want to remainunprofessional, arrogant and complete chEats....despite Pharm. D & M.Sc Nursing please do you know the relativity in remuneration between Attending Physicians/Surgeons and other health workers in the united states? How many hospitals are headed by nurses, pharmacists, lab technocians, admin workers and cleaners? 6 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by Exmay(m): 7:55am On Jul 08, 2014 |
PerfectFortune: It is only in Nigeria that the Drs want to head all aspects of the medical profession but want to remainunprofessional, arrogant and complete chEats.. If being a Professor = Consultant, then na only Professor of Law pple go dey consult on law matters... Please do the needful and get enlighten before commenting... 12 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by FDenigma: 8:01am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Now they are talking. They should have sought this legal route from the beginning rather than fomenting trouble and arm-twisting a weak FG. They left it for last because even as bad as the Judiciary may appear, they still know rubbish when they hear it. 2 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by simplynola(m): 8:01am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Commotion Nigeria! Confusion Nigeria! And in Fela's lyrics.....Like ojuelegba (b4 Fashola), like ojuelegba, motor dey come from west, motor dey come from east, motor dey come from south, motor dey come from north, policeman no dey for center, nah confusion e be! |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by sogodihno: 8:06am On Jul 08, 2014 |
In a letter dated 12th June and published on Thursday, Guardian of June 19th 2014 Medical And Dental Consultants’Association of Nigeria through their principal solicitor and counsel, Jitti Ogunnye, Esq., had written a letter to the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, GCFR, and had raised a lot of issues . She wrote “ we wish to draw the attention of Your Excellency to the “agreement” said to have been reached at ameeting that was held in Abuja, FCT between the Joint HealthSector Unions(JOHESU) and Assembly of Healthcare Professional Associations(AHPA), with the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF),Senator Anyim Pius Anyim, GCON, Honourable Minister of Labour and Productivity, Honourable Minister of Health, Chairman, Salaries, Income and Wages Commission, Head of the Service of the Federation, and other Top Government Functionaries on the 5th of June 2014.Three of these agreements are of concern to our clients since they have grave implications for the management and survival of the Health Sector in Nigeria”.In the said letter MDCAN raised issues she wants the Government to address, for she has put the Government on notice that she will fully comply with and enhance any directive(including embarking on strike action or withdrawal of services) that the NMA may wish to issue at the expiration of the ultimatum. That MDCAN is constrained to tow this line,in spite of her usual traditional moderation whenever there are strikes in the hospital. The consequence is that no medical and dental consultant shall be available to render service in all our Teaching Hospitals, nationwide, in the eventof such a strike action.MDCANS’ GROUSE(1) MDCAN is opposed to the appointment of other Medical Personnel as Consultant.MDCAN is opposed to the circular no MH/PM/138/VOL.111/79 of 16th may, 2014 that restored consultancy status to other Healthcare Professionals and approving the payment ofspecialist allowance to other Healthcare Professionals.(2) MDCAN is against Government position to have accepted JOHESU/AHPA’s position and demand that the illegal office of the DCMAC be abolished.(3) MDCAN is opposed to Government’s agreement with JOHESU to refer a number of issues to Yayale Ahmed committee. These issues include the review of the process ofappointment of Chief Medical Directors and Medical Directors of Teaching Hospitals and the agitation of JOHESU/AHPA that appointment of Chief Medical Directors and Medical Directors be made from permanent staff of Teaching Hospitals rather than from the Universities. And theGovernment will to look into the lopsidedness of advertorial for appointment of CMDs/MDs which is skewed in favour of Medical and Dental Practitioners and the agitation of JOHESU/AHPA that the appointment process be made open to all “competent and qualified health professionals”; the AbdullahiBello Presidential committee report on harmony in the HealthSector; and the interpretation on who is “medically qualified”As a result of the issues stated above MDCAN has called on the Government to rescind her decision. And if the Government does not, MDCAN will join NMA in the forth coming industrial action in which NMA has given the Government a 14 days ultimatum. At this juncture one is poised to ask are the reasons given by MDCAN to justify her claims and to down tools cogent? Let us go through her reasons.(a) Appointment of other Healthcare Professionals as Consultants.According to MDCAN appointing a Pharmacist, Physiotherapist, Nurse, Medical Laboratory Scientist, etc as consultants in their chosen field are an aberration and an oddity. MDCAN had written “designating or appointing Nurses, Pharmacist or Physiotherapist or Laboratory Technicians ‘Consultants’ in the Health Sector is, therefore, an aberration, and a pervasion of order of care in the Health Sector. Under this order of care, there is no rule that can accommodate this designation or appointment of non-medical doctors as Consultants, even if some managers of Public Hospitals in Nigeria want to invent the absurdity. In the medical profession, Nurse, Pharmacists, Physiotherapists are not trained to make diagnosis and prescribe treatment’. MDCAN went further to write ‘Your Excellency, the oddity and aberration of this agreement by theFederal Government of Nigeria and JOHESU and AHPA on extension of Consultancy Statuses to all Health Professionals is not only that it is professionally and administratively perverse. It is also a legal absurdity.”(b) The Government of Nigeria was in error to obey Court Judgment/concede to JOHESU to have restored Consultant Status to other Health Professionals without consulting MDCAN. MDCAN wrote through their lawyer “Your Excellency, our client vehemently disagree with the reported agreements. As our client has consistently maintained, they are an Association of Medical and Dental Consultants, who, exclusive of other Professionals in the Health Sector, are known and addressed as “Consultants”. Negotiating and agreeing with non- medical and dental practitioners in the health sector, and designating them “Consultants”, such that there will now be multiplicity of Consultants in the Teaching Hospitals, is not acceptable; and even if it were, this cannot be done in the absence of Association of Medical Practitioners.(NMA, MDCAN, etcetera)(c ) MDCAN is of the opinion that the NIC Judgement in favour of JOHESU was in error.She wrote “following the determination of suit no. NICN/ABJ/238/2012 (the Trade Union members of the Joint Health Sector Unions (JOHESU),namely  1) Medical and Health Workers Union of Nigeria;(2)National Association of Nigeria Nurses and Midwifes;(3)Senior Staff Association of Universities Teaching Hospital, Research Institutes and Associated Institutions;(4)Nigerian Union of Pharmacists, Medical Technologists and Professions Allied to Medicine;(5)Non Academic Staff Union of Educational and Associated Institutions vs Federal Ministry of Health) on Monday, the 22nd day of July,2013 by Hon B.A Adejumo (Presiding Judge),Hon. Justice B.B Kanyip and Justice M.N. Esowe, wherein the National Industrial Court held that a few non-medical and dental practitioners aberrantly appointed asConsultants in University College Hospital, Ibadan should continue to enjoy that status, the Federal Ministry of Health (that is the Federal Government of Nigeria) appealed that decision, and our client, MDCAN also approached the National Industrial Court with an application to set aside the judgment. The appeal and application are pending in courts.(D) That the action of the Government to obey Court Judgment amounts to contempt.MDCAN through their lawyer wrote “the so called agreement on the extension of consultancy status to all Health Professional and thus purported issuance of a circular to thateffect is contemptuous of the courts. It undermines and subverts the majesty, dignity, and integrity of the courts; it is illegal and it is an affront on the rule of law.”(E) MDCAN rejects the abolishment of the office of DCMACMDCAN wrote through her lawyer “Your Excellency, our clientalso rejects the agreement to abolish the post of Deputy Chairman Medical Advisory Committee (DCMAC).Our client’s position is that the creation of the post, which has been in our Teaching Hospitals for more than twenty years, is within the administrative powers and competence of the Governing Boards of the Teaching Hospitals as defined in their respective Governing statutes establishing them. This position, which facilitates smooth management of the Teaching Hospitals, cannot be scrapped because of the whims and caprices of non-medical doctors, on the flimsy ground that they are excluded from consideration in filling of that position. For the avoidance of any doubt, it is instructive that the University Teaching Hospitals (Reconstruction of Boards, etc) Act, CAPU15, VOL 15, Laws of the Federation of Nigeria, 2004 ,provides in section 7(4) (Function of the Board)that “Subject to the this Act, the Board shall have powers to do anything ,which, in its opinion, is calculated to facilitates the carrying out of its functions under this act “.(F) MDCAN is opp |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by FDenigma: 8:07am On Jul 08, 2014 |
naeto2: Its all turning out to be a catfight between two supposedly mature organisations I politely disagree. JOHESU is a recent amalgamation of strange bedfellows whose only uniting bond is an inferiority complex directed at doctors. Even within their ranks, they still tussle over who is "superior" (pharmacist better than Physio better than nurse, etc) as if that is what matters. Most doctors didn't even know the union existed until they went on strike and locked up medical records and instruments. When doctors heard their absurd demands, they laughed...until FG approved all of them. Unfortunately, as "underdogs", they seem to have public sympathy but let's call a spade a spade without emotions or "beef". 11 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by sogodihno: 8:12am On Jul 08, 2014 |
F) MDCAN is opposed to the issues referred to Yayale Ahmed Committee.MDCAN states “regarding the issues referred to Yayayale Ahmed Committee, which relates to the process of eligibility for appointment of Chief Medical Directors and Medical Directors of Teaching Hospitals, and the agitation of JOHESU& AHPA that their members ,who are not medical practitioners, be eligible for appointment, our client’s positionis that the issue oh headship and management of the Teaching Hospitals is not a political or labour issue that can or should be negotiated with an amalgam of Association of non- medical practitioners in the Health Sector”MDCAN made a final submission by stating through her lawyer “In view of the troubles our Country is going through, currently, your Excellency’s Government must do everything in its powers to ensure that Health Sector is not thrown into adisarray on account of ill motivated and ill decided positions taken on behalf of Government by Officials who seem not to be aware of, or care little about the havoc the decisions beingtaken by them will wreak on the Health Sector. It is for this reason that our client hereby calls on your Excellency to wade into these perennial issues of granting arbitrary, anti-healthcare delivery concessions in the Health Sector by Agents and Agencies of Government, just to placate and appease some workers in the Health Sector, even when thoseconcessions, on the long term, will lead to the destruction of the Healthcare Delivery system in our Country. It is high time the system stopped granting concessions that will ruin the healthcare delivery system to a resentful and conspiratorial segment of the Health Sector workforce on the altar of political expediency, and in the illusion that doing so is the best way to guarantee industrial harmony.” MDCAN went further, “our client is grateful to Your Excellency for taking a swift action on the issues raised in this letter.” Now that we have shown the reasons given by MDCAN, can these reasonsbe tenable in the light of truth? Can MDCAN be justified to go on strike? What is the position of the law on these demands? Are the reason supported by the Public Service rules? are they in a position to make such demands? |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by sogodihno: 8:13am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Let us critically analyze those reasons to see if they are a myth or a reality?(A) Reason number one-Appointment of other Healthcare Professionals as Consultants.Allopathic medicine did not originate in Nigeria it is a WesternMedical System that was introduced herein by the British. The statement made by MDCAN that in the Health Sector it is only medical doctors that are appointed Consultants, and that the term is an exclusive designation for doctors, is not correct. In Britain, USA, Australia, and other Countries of the world it is not only medical doctors that are appointed as Consultants. Under the National Health Service (UK) Healthcare Professionals who are not doctors are appointed Consultants in their chosen areas of specialization. They are saddled with four major key functions.(a)Expert clinical practice(b)Professional leadership(c) Education and training(d) Research and services development.There are Consultant Pharmacist, Consultant Physiotherapist, Consultant Radiographers, Consultant Nurses, Consultant Optometrist, and Consultant Biomedical Scientist called Medical Laboratory Scientist in Nigeria.etc. Note that Claire Geary is not a medical doctor and practices in UK. He is a Consultant Biomedical Scientist at Cambridge University Hospitals.NHS Foundation. He is a Consultant Biomedical Scientist in Cervical Cytology with experience in Specialist Reporting and Training. Even World Health Organization (WHO) appoints non medical doctors as Consultants. Prof Dennis Agbolahor was appointed a Consultant to WHO on Pathogenic Organism. And there are so many Nigerians who are Consultants to WHO and they are not medical doctors.A google search will show many recognized Charities that areAssociations of non medical doctor consultants eg AmericanSociety of Consultant Pharmacist, Canadian Society of Consultant Pharmacist. Even you have Australian Society of Consultant Pharmacist. If other professionals are not appointed Consultants would such Countries have such registered and recognized Charities? Above all it is not MDCAN that is saddled with the function of creating posts and responsibilities in Nigeria. The Head of Service/National Council on Establishment has already done that, that non medical doctors are also Consultants in their specialized area.Appointment of other Healthcare Professionals as Consultants is also stated in their various schemes of Services. MDCAN is really misleading the Public, what she did not get in Court; she wants to get through the back door. The issues canvassed by MDCAN in the said open letter werewhat she canvassed in the case she applied in Court and lost. It should be noted that the statement that her application is still pending in court is false and misleading. Inthe suit MDCAN filed before his Lordship Hon. B A Adejumo, OFR, with suit number-NICN/ABJ/269M/2012 on 9th October,2013 seeking among other prayers, an order setting aside the judgment of this Court delivered in suit no. NICN/ABJ/238/2012 (JOHESU case against the Government)on the 22nd day of July, 2013 , the Honorable Judge ruled against MDCAN. Her prayer to set aside the judgment was stroke out because she was not a necessary party in the case and lack of merit on the 21st May 2014.How can MDCAN go on strike on a case she lost in Court? Again MDCAN has always used falsehood to misinform the public; Government has not appointed “laboratory technicians” as Consultants rather it is Medical Laboratory Scientist who meet the criteria as exemplified in the scheme of service that are appointed Consultants. In line with the MLSCN Act 11 2003, in section 19(c) there are three categories of Medical Laboratory Personnel-Medical Laboratory Scientist, Medical Laboratory Technicians and finally Medical Laboratory Assistants. It is among the MedicalLaboratory Scientist, which is the apex/high man power professional among the Medical Laboratory Personnel, that the Government appoints Consultants, just as what is seen inUK.MDCAN has missed the mark on who is a Consultant. WilliamA Cohen, PhD, the author of the best seller “How to make it big as a Consultant” defines a consultant in page 3 as “a Consultant is simply anyone who gives advice or performs other services of a professional or semi professional nature in return for compensation.” Is MDCAN claiming to be the only professional group in the Health Sector? When the Boards of Hospitals, creates and duplicates the illegal officesof the DCMAC it is not an aberration and an oddity, but when Government does the right thing by upholding the Consultantstatus of other Healthcare Professionals in line with the law, MDCAN cries wolf. So where is the sincerity?(B) Reason number two- MDCAN was not contacted before Government obeyed Court Judgment by restoring Consultancy Status to other Healthcare Professionals. MDCAN forgot that without being prejudicial to the functions of the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, in line withthe 1999 constitution as amended in section 5(1) subject to the provisions of this constitution, the executive powers of the federation(a) Shall be vested in the President, and may, subject as aforesaid and to the provisions of any law made by the National Assembly, be exercised by him either directly nor through the Vice President and Ministers of the Government of the Federation or Officers in the Public Service of the Federation; and(b) Shall extend to the execution and maintenance of this constitution, all laws made by the National Assembly and to all matters with respect to which the National Assembly has, for the time being, powers to make laws.The President reached an agreement with JOHESU through, Ministers and Officers in the Public service as a result of the Court Judgment granted in favour of JOHESU, based on the principle of collective bargain which is a right OF JOHESU members. The NIC judgment relied on section 14(3) of the trade dispute act CAP T8 LFN 2004 and such awards are sacrosanct. Section 14(3) of the TDA provides that“In so far as the terms and conditions of employment to be observed by an employer in accordance with any award made by the National Industrial Court under this section are more favorable than any statutory provisions affecting the terms and conditions of employment of the workers concerned, the award shall prevail. “Restoring Consultancy status to other Healthcare Professional was the right thing to do. And the President through the Agents of Government acted in line with section 18(1) of the University Teaching Hospital (Reconstruction of Boards etc) ACT CAP U 15 ,VOL 15. LFN 2004, which provides 4 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by sogodihno: 8:15am On Jul 08, 2014 |
The President may notwithstanding any provision of this act,take such measures as occasion may warrant in order to improve the efficiency or due administration of the Teaching Hospital specified in the schedule to this Act”.Stopping the Consultancy Status of other Healthcare Professionals was in error.(c) The third reason given by MDCAN in the said letter-Is that MDCAN has a case before the Court and that Government has appealed the case. First and foremost it is false that MDCAN has a case or application before the court as at the time of writing for determination on this matter. The application that was made by MDCAN for the Court to set aside the Judgment in favour of JOHESU was thrown out for lack of merit. MDCAN was not a party to the suit to the JOHESU suit. Again why is MDCAN crying more than the bereaved? The same Government that initially took JOHESU to Court is the one that signed the agreement with JOHESU togive them their entitlement, which is the right thing to do. MDCAN that is agitating for Government to continue to createthe illegal office of the DCMAC is the one also calling for the non implementation of Court judgment in favour of JOHESU, is that not double standard? MDCAN is a charity and not a Government statutory body, so they are not in any position to interfere with the machinery of governance.(d) Reason number four is that Government obeying NIC Judgement in favour of JOHESU is contemptuous. MDCAN is always deceiving the public, how can obeying a Court Judgment/Order be contemptuous? The same Government that took JOHESU to Court and the judgment was not in her favour, decided to do the right things by entering into agreement with JOHESU to grant them their lawful entitlement. Our lawyer a Senior Counsel, Bar K O Ijatuyi, whois part of the JOHESU case, informs us and we believe him that an intent to or an appeal is not a stay of execution. Thereis no Court as at today that has upturned the NIC judgment infavour of JOHESU. The NIC judgment is sacrosanct. So, why is MDCAN holding brief for the Government? And why is she misleading the general public?(e) The fifth reason given by MDCAN, is that Government wasin error to have abolished the illegal office of DCMAC. She tried to give legitimacy to the office by wrongfully sighting section 7(4) of the University Teaching Hospital (Reconstruction of Boards, etc) Act U 15,LFN 2004.It is not the duty of Boards of Hospitals to go outside their functions and laws setting up a Government Parrastatals. Section 5 subsection five of the same Act, provides “Subject to this Act,the Board shall have power to appoint (including power to appoint on promotion and transfer and of confirmation of appointments), advance, terminate or discipline employees (including consultants) holding or acting in any office in the hospital: and any such appointment shall be made having due regard to any personnel establishment approved for the hospital”.Note that there is no personnel establishment or statutory approval for the office of the DCMAC in the Hospitals. The office is an illegal creation to undermine the statutory personnel established Scheme of Service of other HealthcareProfessionals, by MDCAN members, who are the holders of Hospital Chief Executive Officers presently. The President abolishing the illegal office was in good faith. And the action of the President is ultra jure. Section 18(1) of the Teaching Hospital Act quoted above has this to say “The President may, not withstanding any provision of this Act, take such measures as occasion may warrant in order to improve the efficiency or due administration of the Teaching Hospitals specified in the schedule of this act”.Again the Public Service Rule 160101 defines, “Parastatals” as “a Government-owned organization established by statuteto render specified service(s) to the public. It is structured and operates according to the instrument establishing it and also comes under the policy directive of government.” Office of the DCMAC is outside the organic law setting up the Teaching Hospitals. The Minister of Health was part of the Government functionaries that signed agreement with JOHESU, so all Hospital Boards are bound to obey that policy directive stated in the agreement. Public Service Rule 160201(c) states a Minister exercises control of parastatals through the Board of the parastatals only. Furthermore section 17 of the teaching hospital Act provides thus “The Minister may give to the Board directions of a general character or relating generally to a particular matters (but notto any individual persons or case) with regards to the exercise by the Board of its functions under this Act, and it shall be the be the duty of the Board to comply with this direction; but no direction shall be given which is inconsistent with the duties of the board under this act.” Creating the office of DCMAC is not in line with the function of the Board.This is outside the powers of the Board, and doing that is ultra virse.(f) MDCAN is not in agreement with the setting up of YAYALE AHMED COMMMITTEE to look into the other lingering issues causing disharmony in the Health Sector, like the appointment of the Chief Medical Director, the explanation onwho is medically qualified. And the issue of appointment of Chief Medical Director/Medical Director from permanent staffof the Teaching Hospitals rather than from Universities; and the lopsidedness of advertorial for appointment of Chief Medical Directors/Medical Directors in favour of Medical Doctors. It is indeed petty that MDCAN wants to go on strike in order to obstruct the operation of this Committee. If MDCAN knows that what she is doing is right then let her not jump the gun but wait for the Committee to finish her work and bring out their findings and report.From the above we can see that MDCAN has no basis to havewritten the Federal Government such a letter, because the issues raises undermine the powers of the President to do what is right. MDCAN on a voyage of ego trip, has shown thatthe singular reason for such agitation is purely prejudice against other Healthcare Professionals who like the members of MDCAN are also employees of the Government. The action of MDCAN violates the 1999 constitution as amended of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. As Public Servants MDCAN and her members are bound to the code of conduct of the Public Service of the Federation. Section 172 of the same Constitution states “A person in the Public Service of the Federation shall observe and conform to the code of conduct of the Federation “.The fifth schedule part 1 code of conduct for Public Officers says 1) A public officer shall not put himself in a position where his personal interest conflicts with his duties and responsibilities.(9) A public officer shall not do or direct to be done, in abuse of his office, any contrary act prejudicial to the rights of any other person or contrary to.It is so glaring that what MDCAN/NMA is asking is prejudicialand tramples on the rights of Nigerian Citizens. Above all the issue of who is medically qualified is before a Court of competent jurisdiction, with suit number is FHC/AWK/CS/38/2013.So how can MDCAN and her members be going on strike on an issue before a court. ? |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by sogodihno: 8:16am On Jul 08, 2014 |
CONCLUSION.MDCAN/NMA has become a fifth columnists working againstthe state. It is sad that MDCAN/NMA and her members who have benefitted so much from the state are now turning themselves against the Nigerian state to become the killer of the Nigerian People, instead of being the Physician who is to be the healer of the patient and people. Nigerians must rise and say no to this medical imperialism by using the instrumentality of the law to stop MDCAN/NMA from inflicting untold hardship on her citizenry. The Federal Government through the Ministry of Health under Prof Onyebuchi CHukwu must act to maintain law and order, now that MDCAN/NMA has told the world that it is because of some of the things she granted to JOHESU on merit, is the reason MDCAN/NMA is going on strike. She should seek an injunction restraining MDCAN/NMA from going on strike just as she did to JOHESU, pending the determination of the motion on notice to know if MDCAN/NMA has the locus standi to go on strike when she is not a Trade Union.JOHESU should be firm to seek a legal redress to restrain MDCAN/NMA in this acts of lawlessness, if the Government does not act. There must be a total restructuring of the Health Sector. All Nigerians from all works of life must condemn these acts of sabotage against the State by doctorsof Allopathic Medicine under the auspices of MDCAN/NMA. The Nigerian Government as a matter of urgency should support the Natural Medicine Development Agency Kofo Abayomi Victoria Island, to reposition our Traditional Medicine to be like what is seen in China, USA, U.K, India, Korea etc. And it should be integrated into the mainstream Healthcare System in Nigeria. Allopathic Monopolistic Medicine should give way to Pluralistic Medicine. Government should create an enabling environment for the practice of the different Medical Systems like, Functional Medicine, Holistic Medicine, Ethnomedicine, Ayurvedic Medicine, Homeopathy, Osteopathy etc. All over the world, nocountry is currently solely dependent on one Medical System. Nigerians must say no to MDCAN/NMA that has become anti people. The Nigerian Government should not allow herself to be blackmailed by MDCAN/NMA.She should first and foremost challenge MDCAN/NMA for acts of impunity against the state. The Federal Government should take a leaf from Governor Fashola of Lagos State, for enough is enough. The Government should also take a queuefrom the former governor of Anambra state, Mr Peter Obi.SignedComr. Ajufo,Benjamin Chukwunonso comr. Asiodu,Anthony UcheSecretary,AMLSN Chairman,AMLSNFMC ASABA CHAPTER. FMC ASABA CHAPTER 1 Like |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by Nobody: 8:18am On Jul 08, 2014 |
YourHealthlabs: Nigerians brace up, 80% of professionals and workers in the health sector will soon withdraw their services.Going by your statistics, the fact that the presently functional 80% can't hold the hospitals together shows how important the mere 20% that are presently asking for "heaven and earth" are. Let's get real here; doctors are small but Mighty! 10 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by FDenigma: 8:20am On Jul 08, 2014 |
sogodihno: In a letter dated 12th June and published on Thursday, Guardian of June 19th 2014 Medical And Dental Consultants’Association of Nigeria through their principal solicitor and counsel, Jitti Ogunnye, Esq., had written a letter to the President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, President Goodluck Ebele Jonathan, GCFR, and had raised a lot of issues . She wrote “ we wish to draw the attention of Your Excellency to the “agreement” said to have been reached at ameeting that was held in Abuja, FCT between the Joint HealthSector Unions(JOHESU) and Assembly of Healthcare Professional Associations(AHPA), with the Secretary to the Government of the Federation (SGF),Senator Anyim Pius Anyim, GCON, Honourable Minister of Labour and Productivity, Honourable Minister of Health, Chairman, Salaries, Income and Wages Commission, Head of the Service of the Federation, and other Top Government Functionaries on the 5th of June 2014.Three of these agreements are of concern to our clients since they have grave implications for the management and survival of the Health Sector in Nigeria”.In the said letter MDCAN raised issues she wants the Government to address, for she has put the Government on notice that she will fully comply with and enhance any directive(including embarking on strike action or withdrawal of services) that the NMA may wish to issue at the expiration of the ultimatum. That MDCAN is constrained to tow this line,in spite of her usual traditional moderation whenever there are strikes in the hospital. The consequence is that no medical and dental consultant shall be available to render service in all our Teaching Hospitals, nationwide, in the eventof such a strike action.MDCANS’ GROUSE(1) MDCAN is opposed to the appointment of other Medical Personnel as Consultant.MDCAN is opposed to the circular no MH/PM/138/VOL.111/79 of 16th may, 2014 that restored consultancy status to other Healthcare Professionals and approving the payment ofspecialist allowance to other Healthcare Professionals.(2) MDCAN is against Government position to have accepted JOHESU/AHPA’s position and demand that the illegal office of the DCMAC be abolished.(3) MDCAN is opposed to Government’s agreement with JOHESU to refer a number of issues to Yayale Ahmed committee. These issues include the review of the process ofappointment of Chief Medical Directors and Medical Directors of Teaching Hospitals and the agitation of JOHESU/AHPA that appointment of Chief Medical Directors and Medical Directors be made from permanent staff of Teaching Hospitals rather than from the Universities. And theGovernment will to look into the lopsidedness of advertorial for appointment of CMDs/MDs which is skewed in favour of Medical and Dental Practitioners and the agitation of JOHESU/AHPA that the appointment process be made open to all “competent and qualified health professionals”; the AbdullahiBello Presidential committee report on harmony in the HealthSector; and the interpretation on who is “medically qualified”As a result of the issues stated above MDCAN has called on the Government to rescind her decision. And if the Government does not, MDCAN will join NMA in the forth coming industrial action in which NMA has given the Government a 14 days ultimatum. At this juncture one is poised to ask are the reasons given by MDCAN to justify her claims and to down tools cogent? Let us go through her reasons.(a) Appointment of other Healthcare Professionals as Consultants.According to MDCAN appointing a Pharmacist, Physiotherapist, Nurse, Medical Laboratory Scientist, etc as consultants in their chosen field are an aberration and an oddity. MDCAN had written “designating or appointing Nurses, Pharmacist or Physiotherapist or Laboratory Technicians ‘Consultants’ in the Health Sector is, therefore, an aberration, and a pervasion of order of care in the Health Sector. Under this order of care, there is no rule that can accommodate this designation or appointment of non-medical doctors as Consultants, even if some managers of Public Hospitals in Nigeria want to invent the absurdity. In the medical profession, Nurse, Pharmacists, Physiotherapists are not trained to make diagnosis and prescribe treatment’. MDCAN went further to write ‘Your Excellency, the oddity and aberration of this agreement by theFederal Government of Nigeria and JOHESU and AHPA on extension of Consultancy Statuses to all Health Professionals is not only that it is professionally and administratively perverse. It is also a legal absurdity.”(b) The Government of Nigeria was in error to obey Court Judgment/concede to JOHESU to have restored Consultant Status to other Health Professionals without consulting MDCAN. MDCAN wrote through their lawyer “Your Excellency, our client vehemently disagree with the reported agreements. As our client has consistently maintained, they are an Association of Medical and Dental Consultants, who, exclusive of other Professionals in the Health Sector, are known and addressed as “Consultants”. Negotiating and agreeing with non- medical and dental practitioners in the health sector, and designating them “Consultants”, such that there will now be multiplicity of Consultants in the Teaching Hospitals, is not acceptable; and even if it were, this cannot be done in the absence of Association of Medical Practitioners.(NMA, MDCAN, etcetera)(c ) MDCAN is of the opinion that the NIC Judgement in favour of JOHESU was in error.She wrote “following the determination of suit no. NICN/ABJ/238/2012 (the Trade Union members of the Joint Health Sector Unions (JOHESU),namely If members of JOHESU are so indispensable and the government and the general public apparently supports their aspirations, then no one should complain about the doctors' strike. Apparently, JOHESU is still at work in Federal Hospitals. Please see them for any medical issues as they are also "medically qualified". PS: Without breaking doctor-patient confidentiality, I can assure you that JOHESU doctors (and consultants) are still receiving real medical care from real medical doctors and consultants at home. In their private clinics and over the phone. 10 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by thuao(m): 8:20am On Jul 08, 2014 |
its only in naija that anythings goes. be proud of who u re. if not satisfied improve ursef. study more do some professional exams. y cry foul on Drs, be the bst at ur post(nurses, pharmacists etc) all re important in health sector. but everybody should know thheir position. no way a nurse pharmacist etc wud head an hospital. its called medical dirrector for a reason. so johesu shud rather fight for whats right fully their and nothing more. consultant nurses etc in other contries dont really work in hospital or relate with patient, so they shud know what they want. johesu can never be at the level with drs, its high time everyone know their place. if u wan bcom cmd or md then go study medicine, their many nurses in med school when i was in school am sure many more re still their. medically qualified with post graduate training is the condition for bcoming a cmd 7 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by sonofaGod: 8:27am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Your level of ignorance is legendary PerfectFortune: It is only in Nigeria that the Drs want to head all aspects of the medical profession but want to remainunprofessional, arrogant and complete chEats. 5 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by Nobody: 8:33am On Jul 08, 2014 |
candy: Of course there is currently a missing link in the patient's care system, so all can not be well. Where you in Nigeria the last time JOHESU professionals withdrew their services?. You want us to dig up what happened during that rare but symbolic JOHESU strike? Even though JOHESU Interns were forced to work to at least allieviate human sufferings as a stop-gap measure, it is unfortunate that we still lost lives. Our 20% MIGHT FUNCTIONAL NMA couldn't help. So if i should borrow your line of thoughts ,it means JOHESU (80%) is BIG and MIGHTY. |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by armadeo(m): 8:37am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Exmay: . If being a Professor = Consultant, then na only Professor of Law pple go dey consult on law matters... Please do the needful and get enlighten before commenting... Please help me tell him. Am tired of explaining the same thing over and over 1 Like |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by jaypee100: 8:39am On Jul 08, 2014 |
The problem wit our health sector is hyper-ego. People shd be allow to get to the zenith of their career. There is no single proferssional in the health sector that can survive alone. The must be synergy. Come to think of it, l hv reviewed both the NMA and; JOHESU position and l find it bewelded. Government complexity in all agreement is pulling us back. Need l add, if the government had had an agreement wit Johesu then that agreement shd be kept. NMA trying to stop that will be in the wrong direction., rather they asked for theirs assertively without infringing on the right of others. We respect doctors. so do most pple respect other professionals. Thus the way forward is mutuality were the patient is the focus. That's how its done in the UK and US 5 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by armadeo(m): 9:00am On Jul 08, 2014 |
bymigokeph: After repeated attempts at education fails what do you do? 1 Like |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by Oduduwaboy(m): 9:02am On Jul 08, 2014 |
YourHealthlabs: The FG should channel funds intoYou remind me of the two prostitutes that King Solomon adjudicated on in the bible. Do anything so long it spites the Doctors! 1 Like |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by thuao(m): 9:10am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Sylverr...... Wrote will also not cease to blame our failed University system for contributing a great deal to this impasse. They should stop admiting students who applied to study medicine into allied fields. They should go back home and prepare well for the nxt exams(yes like most of did). Because these set of people end up studying courses they don't like and nurse envy and hatred allthrough their professional lives. Only pharmarcists and few nurses rightly applied to study those courses while a host of others just happened on them. My advice, its never to late to get what you really want. Like someone said its injustice to treat equal people unequally, but its gross injustice to treat unequal people equally. Govt shud giv everyone what dey deserve and nothing more. If johesu want to be consultants, let them be if all for same can be met. But com to think of it, do they want it fOr patients, or because of the pay that goes wit it. 2 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by Abraham2013(m): 9:17am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Exmay: . If being a Professor = Consultant, then na only Professor of Law pple go dey consult on law matters... Please do the needful and get enlighten before commenting...If I did 5yrs in d university and obtain a bachelor's degree in physiotherapy, den proceed to US and do extra 2yrs to be given DPT(doctor of physiotherapy), den proceed to do residency in cardiopulmonary physiotherapy for 5yrs, wat should I be addressed as in ur own view? 5 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by Nobody: 9:19am On Jul 08, 2014 |
YourHealthlabs:I'm not here to debate the importance of doctors, but you and I know that doctors withdrawing their services will lead to more casualties. |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by Nobody: 9:24am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Oduduwaboy: You are wrong, you need to start embracing other forms of health care to raise our health standard as is done in countries that dwarfs our health indices. India, China many asians and even Americans have allopathic doctors like you, but their (allo doctors) are not threatened by the success of Ayurvedic medicine, ethnomedicine, Holistic care and other imlortant forms of standardized medicine. So why should you?. Infact you should be advocate of pluralistic medicine as long as standards are not compromised, that is if you really mean well for this country and not your interest. If the FG decides to invest in these sub-sectors of health, will you guys afraid be of something?  1 Like |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by double0seven(m): 9:28am On Jul 08, 2014 |
FDenigma: Even from the way you talk, it is evident what Nigerian doctors think of other professionals in the health sector. 1 Like |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by Nobody: 9:30am On Jul 08, 2014 |
candy: Unfortunately it sounds like that's what you just did. You were the one who called Doctors 'small and Mighty', inferring that others are Big for nothing. I then placed my cards for the public to see, using previous documented incidence(Johesu's rare strike) as a case study. |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by slyzy(m): 9:34am On Jul 08, 2014 |
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| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by VantagePoint: 9:36am On Jul 08, 2014 |
YourHealthlabs: Nigerians brace up, 80% of professionals and workers in the health sector will soon withdraw their services.Are you saying sheer numbers should dictate who gets what? I may not know a lot about the medical system, but I have always wondered what the point of JOHESU is? How can a myriad of different healthcare professionals (pharmacists, nurses, medical laboratory scientists, etc) form an umbrella group separate from another set of healthcare professionals (doctors) ? why don't they have their own individual professional or industrial bodies? Are we trying to say these bodies (apart from doctors) don't have internal squabbles just like JOHESU and NMA? I believe no set of healthcare professionals is indispensable. I also see both sides as selfish, because they're forgetting the primary reason for their profession-the patients. 2 Likes |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by double0seven(m): 9:37am On Jul 08, 2014 |
It is fact that Nurse, Pharmacist, Physiotherapist, Medical Laboratory Scientists (not laboratory technicians as some mischievous persons are saying) become consultants in western countries. Doctors need to explain why that is an aberration in Nigeria. That it has been like this for decades is because of the influence of doctors in the corridors of powers. But injustices can continue forever....... it seems the time has come for this issues to be redressed. |
| Re: JOHESU Heads To National Industrial Court (NIC) by VantagePoint: 9:40am On Jul 08, 2014 |
Abraham2013:A consultant physiotherapist. Are physiotherapists also fighting for this? The last time I had a relative in UCH, I knew of the existence of consultant physiotherapists (I stand to be corrected). |
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