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[b]Some people watch too many Nollywood movies.


Small observations:


It is a psychological slight of hand people fall for when they perceive confident people as noisy or boastful.  Nigerians and, Jamaicans, to some extent, are actually not talkative except when standing up for themselves.  Individuals that look aware often seem more noisy than people who look meek and stupid when in fact this is not the case.


When it comes down to it, Ghanaians are the most boastful people I know. Everyone has heard about every achievement that they have ever made or thought they made.  From the burial of Du bois in Ghana, to slave castle, to how many times they won African football. Now they boast about constant electricity and oil discovery. I do not have any qualms about them doing that but do get angry when, as is their sneaky ways, they try to pass off their boasting as if it was a Nigerian pastime. My Caribbean friends, white ones, Asian ones know more about Ghana than they do about Nigeria. This is because Nigerians rarely boast about themselves. In fact, Nigerians do not boast about Nigeria they constantly cuss Nigeria. Nigerians sometimes come to the defence of Nigeria and when we do try to defend ourselves from critics; those same critics cannot take it. In my opinion Nigerian should start boasting about themselves because all do it why not us.
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By the way, many Nigerians who drive those cars of which too many Africans seem jealous, work hard for it. I have personal experience. A friend of mine, actually, he was much older than me, worked as a cleaner in the morning, a full time job  during the day and security weekends. He hooverd offices in the shell complex at Vauxhall while I worked staircase mopping up. One day, a Cameroonian guy, not knowing I was Nigerian, started telling me about the Nigerian man and how he drove a flashy merc. Soon the Cameroonian started telling me about Nigerian students driving cars to his collage and so on.

You know something; I have the measure of Africans. They are a very jealous people. Sometimes I thing Africans are horrible people deserving of their lowly status in this world. There is a feeling that because of our history of being oppressed and embracing religion, which the oppressed do, that Africans somehow deserve some sort of omnipotent, redistributions-of-fortunes-reward. However, I am starting to think Africans are lowly because of wickedness as expressed by jealousy and hatred for one another.


I no longer think of myself as African but think of myself as Nigerian.

[b]The movement for the abolition of the slave trade and slavery humanised black people, but also popularised an image of black people as victims. Abolitionist images of black people kneeling, hands folded, eyes cast heavenward, arguably gave to appearance of making emancipation conditional on conversion, docility and meekness. Many images seem to be more an affirmation of Christianity than of black emancipation.
One of the most popular pro-abolition books, Harriet Beecher Stowe's fictional 'Uncle Tom's Cabin', published in America in 1853, created a new stereotype. Uncle Tom is a docile black man who sacrifices himself for his master and generates sympathy because he does not resist or revolt.

Images of black people as meek victims come back in contemporary depictions of starving Africans and Africa as a continent of victims.

By Professor Jan Nederveen Pieterse




By their overall character and behaviour, Nigerians unconsciously buck the trend highlighted.

There is however a growing trend worldwide, of which some Nigerians are unwitting contributors, to deconstruct the character of Nigerians and reconstruct them into the Docile none threatening Africans that the rest of the world find more acceptable. The docile and meek African is none-threatening and, overall, to keep him this way, serves to eliminate one more threat to the current world economic and social status quo.

Better to help docile Africans develop than let independent minded Africans develop for themselves. Helping Africans develop, let those who do so, guide and manipulate the development in ways that would serve outside interest best in the end. This happened before, under colonialism, which is why African countries do not have meaningful trade with each other.
Not saying that Nigeria’s economy isn’t dominated by outside interest only that their character and ability to go do things without seeking validation or waiting for benign outside guidance is an attitude to encourage.
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Osupru

You'll certainly be admired if you stand and fight and insist on your rights but nobody will admire you if you go into another person's country and try to behave like King Kong or the alpha male  in town. That is the problem of Nigerians.

Between, remember that Ghanaians thought Africans including Nigerians how to fight for their independence so don't misconstrue our civility to be weakness.

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For reasons I wont mention you’re telling the wrong person that little bit of exaggeration.  In any case, when I was young, I came across correspondence between the British government and the British administration in Nigeria. The documents repeatedly advised the British, we most pull out of Nigeria or we shall suffer the greatest violence known to us since the history of our colonial ventures…’ Not in those words exactly but close. Sure, Ghana became the first African country to gain her independence, but for some minor technical details, Ethiopia was never colonised in the first place. Nigeria and the rest of Africa would have gained independence eventually and Nigeria would have done so at great cost to Britain.

Please do not tell me about Ashanti, because not withstanding that episode, Ghanaians still act cowardly and grovelling in many parts of Europe. There have been many instances of Nigerians fighting for them and other Africans when attacked. What is the point of acting the deep and silent type when racist are continually attacking your people and crushing their bones as happened in the former Yugoslavia and Nigerians had to come and fight for the Ghanaians? 




Anyway, I shan’t be returning to this post. I feel somewhat ashamed that yet again like the other Nigerians I have been tricked by Ghanaians to come talk about Ghana once again. This, to give the wider world the impression that we are as obsessed by them as they are obsessed by us.

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By the way these aren’t Nigerian girls:- http://www.ashawosblackpussy.com/ They not only do not look Nigerian but I looked into it briefly and they are just random African and none African girls. There is another site from where the pictures of most of these girls were appropriated. The Africans once are probably Ivorian or from French speaking African countries - The French do a lot of this sort of exploitation of African girls from their ex-colonies.

jrtorrents

I fully understand your concern for the hatred of Nigerians in Ghana. But this must not be taken out of context. Nigerians all over the world haven't given a good account of Nigerians in Nigeria.Remember the PS3 by Sony. In Ghana for instance 3 out of every 5 fraudsters or armed robber caught in a Nigerian or claims to be. Am sure Ghana isn't the only country in the world where people have hatred for Nigerian. Europe, America,South Africa, Botswana,  almost everywhere.
Just yesterday I was talking to a friend in London who claimed a Nigerian had sold a car to him which had broke down just three days after he finished.
paying.The Nigerian who sold him the car is off to the US. Imagine what his notion of Nigerians would be for a long time.Not too long ago Nigerian student at one of the universities in Ghana had secretly filmed a sexual encounter he had with another Ghanaian student and posted it on the internet.


http://www.modernghana.com/news/102995/1/Indecency-at-knust.html

[b]I know that this board is a joke, but it is not funny to think that there remain a large number of black people ignorant of the history of the black condition. This growing Nigerian question is just another manifestation of the Uncle Tom versus Militant blacks’ scenario all over again. Explore black history and you will discover countless instances where Whites have used socialising weapons such as stereotyping to try to tame blacks like Nigerians who come along and challenge the prevailing wisdom. The so called anti Nigerian feelings among blacks and in African countries says more about the desperate state of Africa than it says about Nigerians.

Please, if you are black and live abroad and you see a bunch of racist with burning crosses coming towards you, do not run towards them with welcoming hands, shouting I am not Nigerian.

Whites do not like Ghanaians or Barbadians because you worship them and keep passives and meek.  They hate or fear all of us blacks and actually, if truth were said they probably have a secret grudging admiration for Nigerians and Jamaicans more than they do for the complaint types. Humans generally do not trust simpering and hand wringing people.

---- and even criminality and violence aren’t looked upon in white societies with quite the same horror as you might imagine. In many ways they frown at it on one hand and on the other quite romanticise it. Therefore, it is fantasy to imagine that criminality gives Nigerians a so-called bad name abroad.

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dinggle

Nigeria shuld learn from Ghana. Protect what we have for us. Especially since the world doesnt like us. Nigeria is like a prostitute foreigners come and use dump and go. Majority of Boko Haram followers were foreigners, why the military could execute them publicly to send a message to our neighbours I dont knw. Majority of the Okada riders congesting our roads and riding dangerously are frm neighbouring ecowas. Plus as Nigerians we like runing to other nations when we fail. If the world can stop issuing visas to all Nigerians we shall be forced to face our problems head on. Even if its to die for the cause so that children unborn will not go thro' the hellish situation we currently have.

Ghana continua, dont allow a failed big brother to bully you, You are an independent country and have a constitutional duty to put your citizens first. Every country in Africa can not fail, set the record straight hopefully my failed big-for-nothing country (Nigeria) will learn and follow suit.
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Nigerians if you dont like what Ghana govt policy with regard to work and business visas and you like the country, u knw what to do!!! pursue Ghanian citizenship,[s] if u are a man marry a Ghana woman if you are a woman marry a Ghana man![/s] we do it in Europe and America. Why should we use double standard for Ghana cos they are black like us!! If Ghanians were whites we would all shut our mouths.[/s]

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I was thinking along the same line. Ghanaians should kick all those Nigerians in their country from gutter to gutter (do they have pillars and posts in Ghana?). Obviously, I do not want any Nigerian killed but getting kicked out will be good for us in the end.

There was a time when Nigerians, like now, ran many businesses in Ghana and then they were kicked out of Ghana. Many were sadly killed as they made their way back to Nigeria – so I learned. Now the danger is here again. It is inhuman not to feel sympathy for Nigerians that have built up businesses over there, at the prospect of them losing all the gains of their hard work. Yet, with so many of these Nigerians, also at the forefront of those slagging off the country of their birth, one cant help but feel that they may get what they deserve.  

One can almost hear the white noise in the minds of some Nigerians now. It sounds like, ‘if we had good governance in Nigeria this wouldn’t be happening'! and yet the tiny voice, which the white noise is trying to drown out, persistently and all pervasively whispers, ‘Do not burn your breeches. Your country is your country whatever its condition. Look after your land and it will look after you’.[/b]

What part of the world is Angola ?

[b]Nigerians aren’t the first people to be labelled nor are we going to be the last. The only outstanding feature I see is that we’re the first group of labelled people who appear to welcome being stereotyped. Scary to state the next thing but I fear our stereotyping could get to be as bad as that suffered by the Jews. I do not mean it will end in mass killings of Nigerians (there will be a bit of that) but essentiality to an equal level, long-term publicity, such as historical to the Jews. Such a type, that sinks into humanities psyche, as they suffered. This is because the stereotyping of Nigerians serves many powerful agendas.  It severs the agenda of the politically marginalised in Nigeria, and that of peoples’ of Africa jealous of Nigerians (see Ghana), the racist agenda against black people that is always present in the outside world, economic competition and that of black Diasporans with coonish tendencies (see Oprah). 


I would elaborate further on all of these but I have a huge research and writing assignment commitment. However, the authentic Nigerians on the board probably already know what I mean.


P.S

Corruption in the West is so monumental it is lost in the fabric of the society. Actually the more you look at it- if you do so dispassionately - the more it looks as if corruption is necessary in order for democracy and capitalism to function.

I wonder how many people for instance recognise that industries often first sell you a lie before they sell you goods. Isnt that corruption?

Contemporary notion of development is based on a huge White lie. The origin of international trade is based on a huge White lie.  The political manoeuvrings in the UN and the WHO is corrupt. Those stupid Lists Nigerians are so fund of, serve political and industrial interests, they are not benign and for this reason, alone, they are corrupt.  The food in your super markets are labelled misleadingly, this is corrupt practice. The way oil companies, all run by Whites, exploit the so-called third world is corrupt. International trade is corrupt. As I am writing, a man on the radio who once worked for royal mail says that he and the other workers used to claim more hours on their timesheet than they actually worked. In other words, they all exploited the Royal Mail for more money than they actually deserved. This is corruption. The local council is corrupt, the Car dealer and most Car dealers make a profit through telling you lies about the actual worth of the car they sell.  This is corrupt. Many of the people on this board who claim to be Nigerians are not in fact Nigerians, they are not only cowards but by this deception prove themselves corrupt. CIA, MOSSAD and all such organisations, with the full complicity of their respective Government, run covert and illegal operations; therefore, they and their government are essentially corrupt. Nothing run by man is totally above board even when half of the people are exceptionally honest. The truth is that all things are relative including corruption this is why stereotyping which seeks to make no exception is wrong. You and me and all Nigerians, in the memory of our ancestors and for the next generation sake, most start fighting against these ridiculous notions. In addition, do not listen to those who tell you we most do this by cleaning up our own house. Such tactics never work they only reinforce that which you are fighting to resolve.   
I don’t mean we shouldn’t fight corruption, we obviously most, especially as the worst excess of it in Nigeria is informed by underdevelopment. I only mean that the fight against this stereotyping most be done on its own terms we most make no excuse for it. [/b]

[b]Since we all like tokin truth, lets tok truth here too, we can be pretty racist!

Everyone has his or her experience, sure. In my experience, Nigerians can seem racist and have harsh racist views. My mother, an Ibo woman, thinks white people are devils. Her sisters often say nothing and keep stiff when white people visit but as soon as the white person turns their back, they burst out laughing. As a youngster in Warri, any black woman with a white man was called a prostitute. All my relatives in Nigeria and abroad seem to hate whites and Asians, especially Indians. However, I think that the majority of Nigerians, highly educated or informed by their culture, simply view white people as just another set of people. However, whites, very used to being treated as extra special by none-whites, are subconsciously unable to deal with this Nigerian attitude of normalcy towards them and instead want to attribute to Nigerians arrogance or bigotry.

It’s like when you don’t make extra complimentary comments about a mixed raced child when others are doing so and you’re viewed as either jealous or racist. 


Then again when whites do go to Nigeria and get the welcome that you and I would get just becuse of the "overseas" factor they are the ones who go misinterpreting and taking it to mean that its because they are white.


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why is Nigeria still a pariah state today in spite of all these monumental efforts at image-burnishing? Why are Nigerians still vilified, pilloried and scorned at international airports across the globe? The truth of the matter is that all previous approaches at moral re-armament just like this newfangled project, has adopted a “bottom-top schemata” rather than a “top-bottom” module.

[b] I stopped reading after the bit above.

Apologies for picking on this little extract, but it is very important. Nigerians who purport to be intelligent ought to act more responsibly or select their words more carefully. There are no excuses for maltreatment of Nigerians anywhere. There can be no justification and certainly not the puerile one implying Nigerians are maltreated for their own good, which is the indirect implication one is forced to draw from the argument that the state of politics in Nigeria causes these unjust actions against our people abroad. Unless you mean the government does not protests on our behalf as vehemently as it should due to its ineffectiveness.

As an aside, I travel often and when I can, I make it known I am Nigerian but I have unfortunately so far not been maltreated. I say unfortunate because the person who goes beyond their rightful duty, informed by some harebrained attitude, would rue that day. But then again I do not habitually visit the barbaric and “lawless” lands of Africa- North, South, East or West of Nigeria - or those of Asia and Eastern Europe.
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MrPrsdent

i love your predictions aka 'prophesy' jare!

B4 you know it,these prophecy business will become another albatross on Nigeria's already over-burdened shoulders.

wonder why yahoo yahoo boys have not,as yet,latched on to this potentially-lucrative money spinner

You savvy, my brother, nothing is as self-fulfilling as "prophesy". It was a tool used to devastating effect against African Americans and blacks of the Diaspora in general.


Just to add, i predict Nigeria will be industralised and grow to be one of the most powerful nations in the world

[b]I believe that by Nostradamus’s prediction the world should have end two weeks ago. However, others argue that he predicted that the world would end in 21/12/2012, in which case the good Pastor’s predictions are pointless.



My own modest predictions have come true:

I predicted that an Ethnic minority person would become president of America after J.Bush. To be frank, with this one, I felt that Bush was so unpopular, it was conceivable that if Condoleezza Rice or Colin Powell  had the guts or opportunity to declare themselves they stood a good chance of making it to the white house. I had never heard of Obama.


Long before militancy in the Delta turned out the way it did I predicted that Militants were armed robbers disguised as freedom fighters and that they would only be out to enrich themselves through kidnapping and blackmail.


When I saw Michael Jackson on the podium in London saying, ‘one last time this would be it for me’ it struck me in that instant that he would not live to see the opening night of his show.







Now for more predictions:


I predict powerful forces will in future try to make Ghana, all but in name, a regional capital of West Africa while Nigeria labour is used to intervene in wars across Africa.

I predict Nigeria will be snubbed in favour of South Africa for a seat in the Security Council.

I predict that if Ghanaians do not stop praying for Nigeria to break up, Ghana will be the one to break up.

I predict that Nigerians will face increasing (disguised) racial prejudice abroad and will fail to identify it for what it is and instead continue to make stupid excuses for blatant bigotry.
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[b]Capitalism

In addition, the war has probably already started.

Capitalism’s propaganda machine has sold people all over the world the dream of American style prosperity. However, the Earth cannot tolerate or sustain the level of exploitation necessary to achieve this. There are several narratives going on at the same time. Here is one of them: In most nations of the world shantytowns and ghettos have sprang up. These places are full of the second wave of people trying to escape what they perceive as a lower level of - for want of a better word - the American dream.

In Africa, Asia, and South America, people come from the rural areas to swell the ghettos and shantytowns. In ghettos and shantytowns, culture brakes down leaving behind volatile subcultures. These areas act as breeding grounds for violence, agitation and provide ready population for indoctrination. From these areas, the terrorists and idologicaly driven movements that will wage pockets of war everywhere, shall come.

Now, as the world merges through commerce, information etc in what we call Globalisation, the world in effect becomes like one giant country. The so-called developing world acts like a ghetto or shantytown to the developed world. In order words, the developed world is the gleaming city of a country called Earth and the developing world its ghetto and shantytown. It is in this context one should view the rise and potency of Islamic fundamentalism.  It is an agitation from the ghetto/shanty town of the country called earth. The other narrative involves the environment, energy and so on. 
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You've already lost. In the final analysis, no one can prove that anyone or anything is the greatest or worst in the world. Perspectives render the objective obsolete.

A-town(m)
Are you really this retarded. Stop trying to be philosophical. It makes you appear foolish. I take that back. You are foolish.

In the final analysis, no one can prove that anyone or anything is the greatest or worst in the world. Perspectives render the objective obsolete.

Mexico has a more corrupt police force than Nigeria.

A-town(m)
This coming from the idiot that made the statement above. Hypocrisy at its best.

The statement reads, ‘Mexico has a more corrupt police force than Nigeria does’.

In Britain, teachers cheat voluntarily so that their school will climb up the national league table.

A-town (m)
How many parents in Britain buy expo for their primary school children. Are you really this dumb?

British teachers cheating in order to make their schools climb up the national league table is an act of corruption equal if not greater than your claim. Beside the elite in Britain are perceived to corruptly buy  far more privileges for their children to get on in society than anything a Nigerian parent could. 

They do that too in Britain. Few tell the truth in their CV.

A-town (m)
How many employment job tests did you write in Britain. Mumu. The issue is peculiar to Nigeria because we simply use tests to weed out candidates since we have too many graduates to choose from. Britain, like any other developed nation does not depend on the test. They are seldom used. They go straight to the interview process.     

Britain does not, as far as I know, do expo either but one can draw on similarities. In Britain, other methods result in similar corruption, racism for instance.  Besides this is the statement you posed: Nigerians cheat during job interview tests. I wonder why the employers always feel dissapointed with their new hires. Hmmmm.

In the context of your statement highlighted in red, the CV example I gave was relevant.

So many countries have a problem with ghost workers. It may well be Nigeria has the highest but I doubt it because you can’t tell me the comparative figures for India, Brazil, Cameroon.

A-town (m)
EEWU. Lagos state govt saved 60million last month from screening workers. There are thousands of workers who dies since 1981 that are still collecting salaries in Nigeria. We dont have a database or social security system that helps to weed these ghost workers hence it is a bigger problem in Nigeria. The countries you listed have a form of identification and their ghost worker situation is not as bad as Nigeria. You are so stupid for this one.

You still have not provided comparative figures to justify your claims that Nigeria has more Ghost workers than any other country in the world.

This statement like all the others is a casual observation, only more highfalutin, so wont bother. 

A-town (m)
Olodo. Ignorant mumu. When Obasanjo went to a primary school to address students what did they say? It was shown on TV. They said they wanted to be freaking Ministers and Presidents. A-town (m)

You’ve not stated anything different. I did not watch the program, so, unless you’re withholding more of what the children said, for instance, if they said, ‘Papa president I want to go into politics because I want to chop money’,  then I still cant see what your observation has to do with corruption.

I’m sure Britain spends more on a Bobby and Togo spends less on an officer, so what has the cost of training a police officer got to do with proof of Nigeria being the most corrupt Nation.

A-town (m)
If you dont understand something, dont jump into it. ASK. you idiot. I said Corper. The govt claims they spend 1 million naira to train an NYSC CORPER when we all know they dont spend up to 100,000 naira.

Thanks for making yourself clearer. As for the second part, governments are always overstating or understating costs. The British government is a master of dissembling figures.

So innuendo now amounts to proof. Okay, let me have a go. Many ordinary Americans and British people now own sophisticated research equipment purchased on eBay. Equipments capable of manufacturing viruses – "ooh Ahh, Africans and black people, tremble wiv fear, what could these white people be doing with these equipments?"   

A-town (m)
Thunder fire you for this one. Have you watched the episode where EFCC went to villages to catch all these yahoo yahoo boys. You should go to some areas in Ogun state and see for yourself. I swear i feel like knocking out your teeth.

Seems you stand on firmer ground on this one. As for knocking my teeth out, it has been my experience that people who rake rarely put up a good fight, which is what you’re proving in your statements so far. It’s full of fury signifying nothing.



A-town (m)

Finally, if anyone comes here and tells me to stop the insults, i swear for that person. This guy asked for it.
We know naija is bleeping corrupt so why the denial. your denial shows the level of corruptness

That's Accra education for you 

My dear boy, I doubt anyone is going to advice you to stop insulting,  unless they want to stop you contributing. Your insults take the place of shouting and it is in addition your way of covering up your naivety. The only thing that surprised me was the fact you didn’t add sexual innuendoes. 

A-town (m)

See your yeeye mouth.
I will list the reasons Nigeria is the most corrupt in the world.

You've already lost. In the final analysis, no one can prove that anyone or anything is the greatest or worst in the world. Perspectives render the objective obsolete.


A-town (m)

1. Nigeria has the most corrupt Police force in the world : They no longer collect 20naira. It is now minimum of 100naira(mainland) 500naira(island/lekki)

Mexico has a more corrupt police force than Nigeria.

A-town (m)

2. Nigerians pay PRIMARY school teachers to help their 6-10 yr old kids pass exams.

In Britain, teachers cheat voluntarily so that their school will climb up the national league table.

A-town (m)

4. Nigerians cheat during job interview tests. I wonder y the employers always feel dissapointed with their new hires. Hmmmm

They do that too in Britain. Few tell the truth in their CV.

A-town (m)

5. Nigeria has the highest rate of Ghost Workers in the world.

So many countries have a problem with ghost workers. It may well be Nigeria has the highest but I doubt it because you can’t tell me the comparative figures for India, Brazil, Cameroon.

A-town (m)

6. An average Nigerian wants to work with the FG in order to engage in the ongoing looting. (free for all). The list is endless.

This statement like all the others is a casual observation, only more highfalutin, so wont bother. 

A-town (m)

7 Nigerian kids no longer want to be doctors and engineers. They want to be Ministers and Governors in order to loot.

See statement 6.

A-town (m)

8. Nigerians spend 1 million naira to train each corper yearly. Hmmmmmm

I’m sure Britain spends more on a Bobby and Togo spends less on an officer, so what has the cost of training a police officer got to do with proof of Nigeria being the most corrupt Nation.


A-town (m)

9. Remote villages now have kids who own VSAT internet equipment. They obviously are not using it to research their school projects??

So innuendo now amounts to proof. Okay, let me have a go. Many ordinary Americans and British people now own sophisticated research equipment purchased on eBay. Equipments capable of manufacturing viruses – "ooh Ahh, Africans and black people, tremble wiv fear, what could these white people be doing with these equipments?"   

A-town (m)

and finally, The reason we are currently ranked 2nd and not 1st is because NIGERIAN OFFICIALS BRIBED THE CONdUCTORS OF THE POLL/RESEARCH !!!!!!

This last statement sums up the level of acumen Ghana education gives an individual who schools there.


But ignoring the stupidity of it and looking at the statement, it somewhat highlights the typical Nigerian persons bizarre logic and myopia. I mean how the author somehow attributes corruption only to one party in the transaction. The briber, presumably Nigerian, is more corrupt than the person bribed even though the person bribed is conducting a poll to determine honesty.