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Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by ikeyman00(m): 9:43pm On Oct 09, 2009
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Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Osupru: 10:37pm On Oct 09, 2009
Ikeyman00,

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http://www.ashawosblackpussy.com/
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Feraz(m): 11:32pm On Oct 09, 2009
It's so funny how people bash their countries. Y do Nigerians not c something +ve about their country? Some people scream CHANGE! How ll a country change when its citizens run away?
@kobo, ever since i'v bn reading ur posts, vnt seen u say something gud abt Nigeria.
If Ghana feels it's best 4 their country, fine! No one can predict d future. If it turns out well, gud 4 them. If not, then ,

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Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Nobody: 2:17am On Oct 10, 2009
Hmm, That's on a high side, I hope they reconsider, undecided
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by latch(m): 5:47am On Oct 10, 2009
I'm really not going to read through the whole of this post, however I just need to correct the part about , 'other countries do it':

I own a small business in the United States, and two businesses here in London, all totally legit with paid employees. I never paid a dime to any country government. If anything, I even borrowed money from UK banks to start off. And then again, I'm not even a citizen.

, just thought to mention.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by theviper1: 6:27am On Oct 10, 2009
@shesi, now i want to address u personally. am not iyke and we are not the same person. that havent been settled,let me get down to the business at hand. i want to find out who u really are and where u come from. are u a ghanian or a nigerian,or do you live on this forum, is shesi,martass and the rest of the clown community the same and one person or do u pple monitor NL on a 24hours basis? do all of the folks who claims to be ghanians live in the same room,or a are u really ghanians who wish that u were nigerians? i ask all these cos each time there is a topic about nigeria and ghana,u pple are the first to post here. i dont have any other identity. as for the post,there was some terrible mistakes and mixups,bt my warnings to u still stands. i saw a post by otapiapia and u saying that u were tracking iyke and all that stuff,what can i say,all that is horseshit. as for the said grammatical errors or flaws, need i remind u that this is an informal meeting place and pple can use whatever form of english that they want. btw, will u be good enough to go back and check ur own grammar. i will be in ghana God willing b4 this month runs out. if u are in ghana,let me have ur contact add,bt if u dont reside in "peaceful ghana" tell me where on earth u reside and i will let u know when i ill roll into ur town and we can see face 2 face. stop fooling urself,cos apart from hiding behind a computer consul and running ur mouth ,u are a no body and i will prove that to u if u will let me see u in person.am a nigerian, and am proud to be one any day any time.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Gbawe: 9:39am On Oct 10, 2009
Shesi wrote:

[b]Gbawe, seriously have you even been to Ghana before? You make it sound like there is an impending genocide against Nigerians in Ghana or something. It's ridiculous. Ask the thousands of Nigerian students in Ghanaian universities if they live under any danger there? you're starting to sound like  you're on a personal vendetta mission or something.[/b]Everytime Ghana comes up, you take centrestage and broaden the discussion to all sorts of issues.

My friend , I have lost respect for you with the idiocy you wrote above that , IMO , amounts to a personal taunt. I already mentioned it before that many of us know Ghana well but we do not wish to tout that fact to make our voice resonate higher than everyone else.  I have been going to Ghana for more than ten years. In that time I have been to Ghana more times than I can count. Take it from me that it is the growing anti-Nigerian sentiments palpable in the Streets of Ghana today , when that did not use to be the case,  that makes me comment . I know far more than I am willing to say about Ghana here . I can give numerous examples of blatant xenophobia I have seen myself against Nigerians in Ghana. What the hell do you know about Nigerian Students in Ghana ? My elder sister's son is attending University in Ghana !!!! Have you spoken to any Nigerian student in Ghana to know their actual experience? Are there not millions of us Africans in the diaspora? Is that a confirmation that awful and dehumanising racism does not exist in the UK, USA, Germany, France, etc? You are talking in the same patronising manner a caucasian Briton may deny that racism exists in the UK !!!!!

Perhaps you are encouraged to overstep the mark by the many self-loathing Nigerians on this board , enough so that you begin pretending that xenophobia in Ghana against Nigerians is imagined by Nigerians . I am ready to give you many precise examples that illustrate the growing intolerance for Nigerians in Ghana.

My friend I don't derail threads but if you wants to throw graciousness out of the window we can turn this thread into 'real life' testimony if you want.

Let me just leave you with three examples.

(1) I attended the Globacom launch party in Ghana a while back. The occasion was good . Everyone had good food , erudite company and a merry time. Lo and behold what did I read in Ghanaian newspapers? "Arrogant Nigerians brushed Ghanaians aside in their own country at the Glo party. Nigerians were rude and garish by 'spraying' money and totally ignoring their Ghanaian host" . "They insensitively made the occasion about themselves alone with how they hugged the microphone and acted as if they own Ghana".

Now , If I had not been there myself I would have been mad at Nigerians but as I was there . I knew non of the above happened . So what was the motivation of your press if not the desire to heighten anti-Nigerian sentiments by goading Ghanaians about how "arrogant Nigerians" want to take over? 

(2) I was sat at on-the-run (you should know it) having a drink. A Nigerian lady next to me asked for one of those 1 litre fruit juice in the box. The box is the type that has a plastic clip cover and a pull-back and airtight foil underneath. Upon getting her drink the lady called the waitress back to demand for another drink because she was brought the wrong one. The waitress refused point blank petulently. The lady asked for the Manager. He came and he refused too. I was watching the drama. The manager said he will go inside and make a call since we were all sat outside. He went inside. A few minutes later I went inside to use the loo . I saw the same manager talking to someone . When I went past him he was complaining about "stubborn Nigerians" and how he was determined not to serve this "useless Nigerian woman" outside. That was when I lost my cool and called him a slowpoke who has allowed his hatred of Nigerians to cloud his customer service duties. I told him that there is nowhere in the world anyone would refuse to give the lady another box of drink when she has not pulled the plastic cap up let alone the airtight foil underneath. I demanded his name and asked him if he woud do the same to the Lebanese friend of his boss (on-the-run is Lebanese owned). I promised to get in toucth with his boss to report his conduct. That was when the usual "please I am very,very sorry" came out from him despite his previous insistence he would not serve a "useless Nigeria woman".

(3) A Ghanaian university friend of mine (female) wanted to rent a place for her Granny in Ghana. We both live in the UK but were in Ghana at the same time. I offered to look around on her behalf because I was told she may be taken advantage of as she is female. If I had introduce myself as  Steve there would have been no problem but I am proud of my nation and origin so I introduced myself to every agent with my name which sounds like Obafemi. Invariably every agent , upon hearing my name , would ask if I was Nigerian. I always say yes. "we will get back to you" is the next response. Later I will be told that "the landlord/landlady has given it to someone else". This happened 6-7 times.

Sometimes the things we know are best kept to ourselves. I would have happily carried on following that notion if you did not feel you can now start sounding me out as an ignorant chap who has it in for Ghana . I am definitely one person who can confirm , from many direct experience, that xenophobia is growing in Ghana. Folks like you , out of a misplaced sense of nationalism , deliberately play Ostrich until you witness another disgraceful South Africa type episode on your hand .

Don't be fooled by the sycophancy of the likes of Dele Momodu or the idiocy of some self-hating Nigerians on Nairaland . Anti-Nigerian sentiments are currently running very high in Ghana. If unchecked there will be trouble. That is why some of us , who know the situation on the ground , speak against how your Government appears to be giving in to this xenophobia with one unjust action or the other against Nigerians when it is their reponsibility to make Ghanaians more tolerant of and less intimidated by 'foreigners'. A responsible Government does not respond to mass fear with the type of injustice that further heightens and proliferate hysteria and disaffection.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by jrtorrents: 11:01am On Oct 10, 2009
Gbawe,

I fully understand your concern for the hatred of Nigerians in Ghana. But this must not be taken out of context. Nigerians all over the world haven't given a good account of Nigerians in Nigeria.Remember the PS3 by Sony. In Ghana for instance 3 out of every 5 fraudsters or armed robber caught in a Nigerian or claims to be. Am sure Ghana isn't the only country in the world where people have hatred for Nigerian. Europe, America,South Africa, Botswana, almost everywhere.
Just yesterday I was talking to a friend in London who claimed a Nigerian had sold a car to him which had broke down just three days after he finished.
paying.The Nigerian who sold him the car is off to the US. Imagine what his notion of Nigerians would be for a long time.Not too long ago Nigerian student at one of the universities in Ghana had secretly filmed a sexual encounter he had with another Ghanaian student and posted it on the internet.


http://www.modernghana.com/news/102995/1/Indecency-at-knust.html
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Osupru: 1:12pm On Oct 10, 2009
the Viper,


You see, it is this brashness and arrogance that people can't stand. You are 'rolling' into another person’s country challenging him to meet you and insulting the country you are visiting. People just don’t accept that nonsense.

People like you bring the worse in people and don't make the mistake of thinking it's only Nigerians who can be violent, there are pretty bad people too in Ghana and I'll not be surprised if an idiot like you easily gets whacked in Ghana. You are very uncouth and that will be your undoing in Ghana, believe me.

By the way your post looks very infantile. You should learn to type well so people can read the garbage you post here. Use your keyboard properly and cap your sentences so people can read it. This is a no brainer. Mind you, we are not talking about grammar, just try to type well , stupid!!!
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Osupru: 1:33pm On Oct 10, 2009
Gbawe,

You sound like a well written/spoken decent person and would love your likes gracing this site, but unfortunately the image majority of Nigerians portray in Ghana is completely different than you will want to accept. They have cut the same bad image in many places they have been and have run into trouble. Nigerians for some reason think they can 'roll into town' and beat their chest and walk around like they own the place. People don't like that and they will certainly run into trouble in Ghana too.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by alias64: 1:33pm On Oct 10, 2009


jrtorrents

I fully understand your concern for the hatred of Nigerians in Ghana. But this must not be taken out of context. Nigerians all over the world haven't given a good account of Nigerians in Nigeria.Remember the PS3 by Sony. In Ghana for instance 3 out of every 5 fraudsters or armed robber caught in a Nigerian or claims to be. Am sure Ghana isn't the only country in the world where people have hatred for Nigerian. Europe, America,South Africa, Botswana,  almost everywhere.
Just yesterday I was talking to a friend in London who claimed a Nigerian had sold a car to him which had broke down just three days after he finished.
paying.The Nigerian who sold him the car is off to the US. Imagine what his notion of Nigerians would be for a long time.Not too long ago Nigerian student at one of the universities in Ghana had secretly filmed a sexual encounter he had with another Ghanaian student and posted it on the internet.


http://www.modernghana.com/news/102995/1/Indecency-at-knust.html











[b]I know that this board is a joke, but it is not funny to think that there remain a large number of black people ignorant of the history of the black condition. This growing Nigerian question is just another manifestation of the Uncle Tom versus Militant blacks’ scenario all over again. Explore black history and you will discover countless instances where Whites have used socialising weapons such as stereotyping to try to tame blacks like Nigerians who come along and challenge the prevailing wisdom. The so called anti Nigerian feelings among blacks and in African countries says more about the desperate state of Africa than it says about Nigerians.

Please, if you are black and live abroad and you see a bunch of racist with burning crosses coming towards you, do not run towards them with welcoming hands, shouting I am not Nigerian.

Whites do not like Ghanaians or Barbadians because you worship them and keep passives and meek.  They hate or fear all of us blacks and actually, if truth were said they probably have a secret grudging admiration for Nigerians and Jamaicans more than they do for the complaint types. Humans generally do not trust simpering and hand wringing people.

---- and even criminality and violence aren’t looked upon in white societies with quite the same horror as you might imagine. In many ways they frown at it on one hand and on the other quite romanticise it. Therefore, it is fantasy to imagine that criminality gives Nigerians a so-called bad name abroad.

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Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Osupru: 1:47pm On Oct 10, 2009
alias64.

You'll certainly be admired if you stand and fight and insist on your rights but nobody will admire you if you go into another person's country and try to behave like King Kong or the alpha male  in town. That is the problem of Nigerians.

Between, remember that Ghanaians thought Africans including Nigerians how to fight for their independence so don't misconstrue our civility to be weakness.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Gbawe: 1:58pm On Oct 10, 2009
jrtorrents:

Gbawe,

I fully understand your concern for the hatred of Nigerians in Ghana. But this must not be taken out of context. Nigerians all over the world haven't given a good account of Nigerians in Nigeria.Remember the PS3 by Sony. In Ghana for instance 3 out of every 5 fraudsters or armed robber caught in a Nigerian or claims to be. Am sure Ghana isn't the only country in the world where people have hatred for Nigerian. Europe, America,South Africa, Botswana, almost everywhere.


http://www.modernghana.com/news/102995/1/Indecency-at-knust.html


My brother , I fully appreciate all you are saying and had Martass and Shesi spoken like this then this debate may actually have moved on to the level where all us may leave this thread with a determination to do our part in improving relations between both countries. Instead some folks , assisted by self-loathing Nigerians, continue to defend that which must be condemned. Trust me , if the positions were reversed I would be speaking against the Nigerian Government for putting the livelyhood of many Ghanaians in jeopardy without alternative provisions to cushion the blows of a drastic and sudden departure from what was the norm.

I would be no better than what I accuse Shesi of being if I don't understand how some Nigerians damage the reputation of good Nigerians with criminal activities abroad. Nonetheless , that is no excuse for otherwise good people to begin treating all Nigerians as if they are criminals. All the Nigerian self-haters can carry on but as an honest Nigerian who has worked hard for all he owns , I am not interested in being treated like a criminal because others from my country behave like that.

As a diasporan African , I especially value tolerance because I understand that it is the 'natives' who value tolerance that have defeated the bigots with the insistence that I be treated as a human being to the extent that I can have a decent existence in my diasporan base . I have no time for bigotry and I fail to understand why Martass and Shesi would just dismiss the angst of Nigerians who have lost their livelyhood because of how the rules where changed right in the middle of the game !!!! Incredible. Do we see such shameless behaviour in civilised society? Would it not be better to give Nigerian businesses sensible time to comply, relocate or close shop ?

A decent Ghanaian , even if they know Nigeria has done wrong in the past, would miminally admit that such protectionist action that puts the livelyhood of many in instant jeopardy is to be codemned . The executive Secretary of ECOWAS is Ghanaian. He has condemned what Ghana is doing . That is enough for me. When Nigeria steps out of line in future see if you don't find me there speaking against my nation.

As per the armed robbery assertion , I have actually tested the veracity of the notion that majority of armed robbers in Ghana are Nigerian and I have concluded it is a myth that has no basis in reality !!!! For a period of 6 weeks in 2008 , while I was in Ghana, I read the papers everyday . All the robbers caught and publicly shamed in that period were all Ghanaians. No doubt there will be Nigerian Robbers in Ghana but I outrightly reject the notion that , somehow , Nigerians have taught Ghanaians how to commit robbery. If the armed robbers in Nigeria number 3 out of every 5 then that statistic should be borne out by those actually caught. If folks don't believe me those in Ghana should carry out their own factual investigations just to satisfy themselves that they are not being fed harmful info that leads to the stigmatisation of Nigerians and Liberians as criminals while Ghanaians are intrinsically of virtuous character. It is beginning to appear to me the same as how West-Indians are regarded as born drug dealers and criminals in the UK while we African are saints when , in reality , our Afrian youths (Nigerian, Ghanaian, Somalian, et al) are all proving themselves adept at criminality and gang banging !!!!! 

Just yesterday I was talking to a friend in London who claimed a Nigerian had sold a car to him which had broke down just three days after he finished.
paying.The Nigerian who sold him the car is off to the US. Imagine what his notion of Nigerians would be for a long time.

Many Caucasian car dealers in the UK will sell you a 'lemon' (dodgy car ) if they can get away with it so I really don't see how a Nigerian selling a 'Lemon' indicates a greater propensity for crime. The onus is on the buyer to ensure a potential purchase becomes a good purchase.

Not too long ago Nigerian student at one of the universities in Ghana had secretly filmed a sexual encounter he had with another Ghanaian student and posted it on the internet.

Anyone can do the above against anyone. The behaviour of one Nigerian does not become an indicaion of how we all behave. A Ghanaian raped a young child in Nigeria recently and another killed his long term partner. Am I to then conclude that Ghanaians are paedophiles and murderers because of the action of those two? We should all fight ignorance that leads us to stereotyping.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by alias64: 2:36pm On Oct 10, 2009


Osupru

You'll certainly be admired if you stand and fight and insist on your rights but nobody will admire you if you go into another person's country and try to behave like King Kong or the alpha male  in town. That is the problem of Nigerians.

Between, remember that Ghanaians thought Africans including Nigerians how to fight for their independence so don't misconstrue our civility to be weakness.




[b]


For reasons I wont mention you’re telling the wrong person that little bit of exaggeration.  In any case, when I was young, I came across correspondence between the British government and the British administration in Nigeria. The documents repeatedly advised the British, we most pull out of Nigeria or we shall suffer the greatest violence known to us since the history of our colonial ventures…’ Not in those words exactly but close. Sure, Ghana became the first African country to gain her independence, but for some minor technical details, Ethiopia was never colonised in the first place. Nigeria and the rest of Africa would have gained independence eventually and Nigeria would have done so at great cost to Britain.

Please do not tell me about Ashanti, because not withstanding that episode, Ghanaians still act cowardly and grovelling in many parts of Europe. There have been many instances of Nigerians fighting for them and other Africans when attacked. What is the point of acting the deep and silent type when racist are continually attacking your people and crushing their bones as happened in the former Yugoslavia and Nigerians had to come and fight for the Ghanaians? 




Anyway, I shan’t be returning to this post. I feel somewhat ashamed that yet again like the other Nigerians I have been tricked by Ghanaians to come talk about Ghana once again. This, to give the wider world the impression that we are as obsessed by them as they are obsessed by us.

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By the way these aren’t Nigerian girls:- http://www.ashawosblackpussy.com/ They not only do not look Nigerian but I looked into it briefly and they are just random African and none African girls. There is another site from where the pictures of most of these girls were appropriated. The Africans once are probably Ivorian or from French speaking African countries - The French do a lot of this sort of exploitation of African girls from their ex-colonies.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Osupru: 2:53pm On Oct 10, 2009
alias64,

I don't know of the instances you are talking about, but my guess is there is some exaggeration here. Nigeria being as populous as it is will most likely have a large number of its citizens anywhere that Africans are. If an African is attacked you know it could be you next time, so the smart thing to do is you bind and fight the enemy. It becomes attach one attack all. I don't think Nigerians go around fighting peoples fight.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Fhemmmy: 3:25pm On Oct 10, 2009
Osupru:

alias64,

I don't know of the instances you are talking about, but my guess is there is some exaggeration here. Nigeria being as populous as it is will most likely have a large number of its citizens anywhere that Africans are. If an African is attacked you know it could be you next time, so the smart thing to do is you bind and fight the enemy. It becomes attach one attack all. I don't think Nigerians go around fighting peoples fight.

that is the fact, thus becomes a threat to those african nations economy and other stuff, and they wanna do what is needed to preserve their economy for their own citizens, something that nigerian govt has no clue how to do
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Osupru: 3:52pm On Oct 10, 2009
Fhemmmy,

That is certainly part of the problem. A country like Ghana is small and it's resources are limited. Just imagine a million Nigerians (could easily happen) in Accra competing with Ghanaians in the retail industry. This could create real problems. Nigerians don't have to worry because they have a huge population/resources so there should be no threat.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Kobojunkie: 4:12pm On Oct 10, 2009
This is really unbelievable!!! A law to regulate the BUSINESS landscape in Ghana turned and TWISTED into some attempt at installing XENOPHIC laws, against, not africans, but NIGERIANS, na wa ooo!! What next? If Ghana decides to change the color of it's flag, would that also be anti-Nigeria as well??
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by shesi(m): 5:24pm On Oct 10, 2009
@shesi, now i want to address u personally. am not iyke and we are not the same person. that havent been settled,let me get down to the business at hand. i want to find out who u really are and where u come from. are u a ghanian or a nigerian,or do you live on this forum, is shesi,martass and the rest of the clown community the same and one person or do u pple monitor NL on a 24hours basis? do all of the folks who claims to be ghanians live in the same room,or a are u really ghanians who wish that u were nigerians? i ask all these cos each time there is a topic about nigeria and ghana,u pple are the first to post here. i dont have any other identity. as for the post,there was some terrible mistakes and mixups,bt my warnings to u still stands. i saw a post by otapiapia and u saying that u were tracking iyke and all that stuff,what can i say,all that is horseshit. as for the said grammatical errors or flaws, need i remind u that this is an informal meeting place and pple can use whatever form of english that they want. btw, will u be good enough to go back and check your own grammar. i will be in ghana God willing b4 this month runs out. if u are in ghana,let me have your contact add,bt if u dont reside in "peaceful ghana" tell me where on earth u reside and i will let u know when i ill roll into your town and we can see face 2 face. stop fooling urself,cos apart from hiding behind a computer consul and running your mouth ,u are a no body and i will prove that to u if u will let me see u in person.am a nigerian, and am proud to be one any day any time.

hahahaha,

are you challenging me to a fistfight? You sound like a complete idiot.
Can you hear yourself?

Where did you read that i was tracking ikeyman? who the hell is otapiapia? lol, like seriously, are you mad?

just go and lie down somewhere. this is a discussion for grown ups.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Nobody: 5:25pm On Oct 10, 2009
this viper,vomit or whatever other name he calls himself, needs to be locked up.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by theviper1: 5:32pm On Oct 10, 2009
@osupru, do you really believe that i care one hoot about what an asshole like you thinks. you are already brain dead and u can go screw yourself. you want to teach me how to write? go ahead and have a lovely day. you are not even aware of my reasons for addressing shesi this way or do u think that am some school boy? may thunder strike u dead this minute for addressing me in that form over an issue that  u know little or nothing about. anybody can be whacked anywhere and i really dont give a rats ass. now you can see how mypoic and shortsighted you are. you believe that my wanting to see shesi was to fight him? you are the most foolish woman on earth (yes,thats what u are, a woman) and stay away from me.idiot.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Nobody: 5:39pm On Oct 10, 2009
na your mama you dey address, fool.

die because of Ghana nah.

orangutan like you.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Osupru: 5:54pm On Oct 10, 2009
the Viper,


Are you right up there? On what basis do you conclude that I am a woman ? With thinking like this little wonder why Nigeria is fuucked up.

Don't mess with me because I can Bleep you everyday till you wake up to it. ok?
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by shesi(m): 5:55pm On Oct 10, 2009
Gbawe, your writeup about your experiences in Ghana only go to confirm my earlier assertion. That you were on some sort of personal vendetta. Basically, you've witnessed a few incidents of anti nigerian sentiments which you seem to think is widespread in Ghana and are hell bent shouting the message that "these Ghanaians hate us"

Well, you're wrong. No matter how much you think you know Ghana, you can't claim to know Ghana better than me. Let me point out to you that sentiments like you have said you heard have always been existent in Ghana. So your alarmist conclusions that these sentiments are on the rise and that if not checked will lead to trouble is just false.

Now here's where i think you really have a complex that needs addressing: Those statements you interprete as nigeria-hate are actually nothing more than mere jesting. Take this from me. I'm a ghanaian. I know the culture far better than you, so i know how to interprete thing we say. It may not be immediately apparent to you.
Apart from that landlord episode (which indeed reflects a distrust of nigerians, not necessarily exclusive to ghana, and not necessarily new either), all those other statements you describe do not constitute nigeria-hate.

If you've travelled a bit, then you understand what i'm saying. It's easy to misunderstand the connotation behind statements when you're dealing with another culture. It's an easy mistake to make.

For example, if you're a nigerian going through your everyday routine in say Accra, you will likely hear, at least twice, the phrase, "saa alata fo wei paa", which translates to "these nigerians ehn". You might be tempted to think this was nigerian-hate speech. Certainly if you already believe in your mind that Ghanaians hate nigerians, then the above statement would really set your alarms off. But you'd be mistaken. It's nothing at all.

If you think someone's watching you, looking around you, you will find more reason to believe that someone is watching you. When infact it's all in your head.

My point to you is, there is no more "anti-nigerian sentiment" in Ghana now than there was 30 years ago. It is not on the rise. It's always been there.It's completely harmless And nothing is going to happen.

I put "anti-nigerian sentiments" in parenthesis because i'm only using it for lack of a better phrase. The situation is more one of over-competitiveness than anything. If you take this view, you will be able to understand a lot of the sayings and doings concerning nigeria in Ghana. THat is why it seems Ghanaians are happy at the misfortune of nigerians, why it seems Ghanaians are eager to rub their achievements in the face of nigerians, and why they will speak negatively of all nigeria-isms like spraying money and the like. It'd be easy to interprete that at hate. BUT ITS NOT.

It's like the kind of comments you often hear Canadians making about Americans. If you didn't know better you'd think the Canadians hated Americans. But they don't.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Gbawe: 6:54pm On Oct 10, 2009
shesi:

Gbawe, your writeup about your experiences in Ghana only go to confirm my earlier assertion. That you were on some sort of personal vendetta. Basically, you've witnessed a few incidents of anti nigerian sentiments which you seem to think is widespread in Ghana and are hell bent shouting the message that "these Ghanaians hate us"

Well, you're wrong. No matter how much you think you know Ghana, you can't claim to know Ghana better than me. Let me point out to you that sentiments like you have said you heard have always been existent in Ghana. So your alarmist conclusions that these sentiments are on the rise and that if not checked will lead to trouble is just false.

Now here's where i think you really have a complex that needs addressing: Those statements you interprete as nigeria-hate are actually nothing more than mere jesting. Take this from me. I'm a ghanaian. I know the culture far better than you, so i know how to interprete thing we say. It may not be immediately apparent to you.
Apart from that landlord episode (which indeed reflects a distrust of nigerians, not necessarily exclusive to ghana, and not necessarily new either), all those other statements you describe do not constitute nigeria-hate.

If you've travelled a bit, then you understand what i'm saying. It's easy to misunderstand the connotation behind statements when you're dealing with another culture. It's an easy mistake to make.

For example, if you're a nigerian going through your everyday routine in say Accra, you will likely hear, at least twice, the phrase, "saa alata fo wei paa", which translates to "these nigerians ehn". You might be tempted to think this was nigerian-hate speech. Certainly if you already believe in your mind that Ghanaians hate nigerians, then the above statement would really set your alarms off. But you'd be mistaken. It's nothing at all.

If you think someone's watching you, looking around you, you will find more reason to believe that someone is watching you. When infact it's all in your head.

My point to you is, there is no more "anti-nigerian sentiment" in Ghana now than there was 30 years ago. It is not on the rise. It's always been there.It's completely harmless And nothing is going to happen.

I put "anti-nigerian sentiments" in parenthesis because i'm only using it for lack of a better phrase. The situation is more one of over-competitiveness than anything. If you take this view, you will be able to understand a lot of the sayings and doings concerning nigeria in Ghana. THat is why it seems Ghanaians are happy at the misfortune of nigerians, why it seems Ghanaians are eager to rub their achievements in the face of nigerians, and why they will speak negatively of all nigeria-isms like spraying money and the like. It'd be easy to interprete that at hate. BUT ITS NOT.

It's like the kind of comments you often hear Canadians making about Americans. If you didn't know better you'd think the Canadians hated Americans. But they don't.



My friend give it a rest. First you say I have never been to Ghana and insinuate I am led by ignorance . Then I give you a few example , the most tame out of numerous , and you move the goal post to infer that a few example means nothing same as the caucasian who is not subject to racism will dismiss the real fear of those who are the targets of racism. I have seen things change for the worse in the past few years. I am going to stop talking to you because of how you think , because you are Ghanaian , you know Ghana to the extent that those who are not indigenes cannot fathom , more than you, what you can never experience i.e discrimination against Nigerians.  I arrived in Ghana many years ago with no bias same as how many of us arrived in the diaspora with near total ignorance of racism. It would then seem a bit dismissive for a causcasian person to accuse me of exagerating about racism when I did not know what racism was in the first place until I experienced it from one of his kind !!! I am not one to quickly shout discrimination either.

You can take it from me that my connection to indigenes of Ghana is more familial than you can think .  I am not going to put my business on the web to prove a point . I will just stop by saying that when your connection to some Ghanaians become familial , those Ghanaians admit to the existence of a problem. They are appalled at the treatment meted out to you that they would have been oblivious to had they not become connected to a Nigerian same as how many white women , previously ignorant of bigotry , are shocked by the racism amongst their family and friends when they start dating a black person. Have a nice day. As I said before , what we don't say are best left undisclosed.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Gbawe: 7:11pm On Oct 10, 2009
Kobojunkie:

This is really unbelievable!!! A law to regulate the BUSINESS landscape in Ghana turned and TWISTED into some attempt at installing XENOPHIC laws, against, not africans, but NIGERIANS, na wa ooo!! What next? If Ghana decides to change the color of it's flag, would that also be anti-Nigeria as well??

It is obvious you crave attention but can you not see how you are a nuisance sometimes?
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Kobojunkie: 7:29pm On Oct 10, 2009
latch:

I'm really not going to read through the whole of this post, however I just need to correct the part about , 'other countries do it':

I own a small business in the United States, and two businesses here in London, all totally legit with paid employees. I never paid a dime to any country government. If anything, I even borrowed money from UK banks to start off. And then again, I'm not even a citizen.

, just thought to mention.

I happen to own a business in the US myself, and I had to pay some fees to start my business. I am not exactly sure what the set up fee for foreign businesses are( both at the federal and the state levels) but I know that foreign companies, depending on country pay more. So, I am sorry if I find your story too hard to believe.

By the way, Ghana is NOT the USA OF A, so I see no reason why we should, at this time, compare Ghana to America. It is a developing country.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Liedetect: 8:32pm On Oct 10, 2009
Hi, Shesi the Ashanti,

You and your Ashanti followers are always here on Nigerian forum. It makes me wonder if you are part of the moderating team because of the way you always seem to hone in Nigerian topics. Alternatively, maybe you are friendly with people on the moderating team and they beep you and your flock to come bleating on such topics.

Bearing in mind that Ghana is now awash with oil, and your people in Ghana have laid claims to being the next best thing to come out of Africa since slice bread in the next five years, one would have thought that this board no longer bears relevance to such as you and your Ashanti followers.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by shesi(m): 8:49pm On Oct 10, 2009
My friend give it a rest. First you say I have never been to Ghana and insinuate I am led by ignorance . Then I give you a few example , the most tame out of numerous , and you move the goal post to infer that a few example means nothing same as the caucasian who is not subject to racism will dismiss the real fear of those who are the targets of racism. I have seen things change for the worse in the past few years. I am going to stop talking to you because of how you think , because you are Ghanaian , you know Ghana to the extent that those who are not indigenes cannot fathom , more than you, what you can never experience i.e discrimination against Nigerians.  I arrived in Ghana many years ago with no bias same as how many of us arrived in the diaspora with near total ignorance of racism. It would then seem a bit dismissive for a causcasian person to accuse me of exagerating about racism when I did not know what racism was in the first place until I experienced it from one of his kind !!! I am not one to quickly shout discrimination either.

You can take it from me that my connection to indigenes of Ghana is more familial than you can think .  I am not going to put my business on the web to prove a point . I will just stop by saying that when your connection to some Ghanaians become familial , those Ghanaians admit to the existence of a problem. They are appalled at the treatment meted out to you that they would have been oblivious to had they not become connected to a Nigerian same as how many white women , previously ignorant of bigotry , are shocked by the racism amongst their family and friends when they start dating a black person. Have a nice day. As I said before , what we don't say are best left undisclosed.


i'm getting tired of this.

You wont get me to admit there is any impending danger for nigerians in ghana because there is not. and you are wrong.


The relationship is not neutral but
there is no rise in anti nigerian feeling in ghana. There is no bursting-at-the-seams Ghana hate for nigeria. There is no hidden agenda to drive nigerians out of ghana. it's all just plain false.

You are the one starting to sound like you have something against Ghanaians. You are hell bent in your belief and refuse to even consider any of the explanations i'm putting forward.

Lets just agree to disagree why dont we.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by Osupru: 8:54pm On Oct 10, 2009
Liedetect,

Ghana is not awash in oil, and even if we happened to be awashed in oil like you claim, we will learn to be humble and less loud then you Nigerians.

Btw, Ghanaians don't really give a squat about Nigerian affair here but anytime you guys decide to thrash Ghana on nairaland be rest assured that we the moral police would show up to give you a run for your money.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by shesi(m): 8:55pm On Oct 10, 2009
Hi, Shesi the Ashanti,

You and your Ashanti followers are always here on Nigerian forum. It makes me wonder if you are part of the moderating team because of the way you always seem to hone in Nigerian topics. Alternatively, maybe you are friendly with people on the moderating team and they beep you and your flock to come bleating on such topics.

Bearing in mind that Ghana is now awash with oil, and your people in Ghana have laid claims to being the next best thing to come out of Africa since slice bread in the next five years, one would have thought that this board no longer bears relevance to such as you and your Ashanti followers.

Buddy i joined this thread at page 6 or so. Go back and check. I only noticed it because it was on the homepage which, which is generally the only threads i comment on.

maybe you should ask the admins why any topic containing ghana makes it to the homepage. This particular subject has made it to the homepage at least 3 other times.

and which ppl have laid claims to being the next best thing in Africa? where did you hear any ghanaian making that claim?

chale please. i'm getting sick of all this.
Re: Ghana's Plan To Chase Out Nigerians - Classifies Ecowas Citizens As Expertrates by kentho(m): 9:30pm On Oct 10, 2009
Stop deceiving urselves. They are only doin d right thing. Nigeria shud also adopt d same strategy 4 foreign companies

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