Abeg they should just move Rabiu Ibrahim to the senior squad. We need someone who can drag the ball upfield since Okocha left.

Leeds are washed up, they were off to a ''promising start'' last season and look at what happened. They wont be back in the Premiership for at least 10 years.

sweetpie23:

the main reason is, Self-hatred caused by the white media's negative portrayal of blackness.allowed black men to marry white women.Only the confused Black men do this. The smart, educated, self-loving, self-respecting Black men don't do this. Of course, true love is an exception but I believe everyone should stick with their own race.

AH PLEASE COME OFF THAT!! What about the black women who chase white men, yes they are out there lol.

Furthermore alot of it isn't down to self-hatred. What about black women and their nasty attitudes? It is a culture mentality among many black women that in order to be a real black woman you have to be confrontational and rude because they feel its a sign of strength.
Its funny that alot of black women feel that doing the feminine things like cooking, cleaning and catering to their men are what weak or ''white'' women do, yet alot of them wear imitation white hair i.e. weaving/perming etc and that seems perfectly fine to them. So who's being ''confused''?

Delusional or what?!

tpiah*:

so do you know of any race women dont find attractive?

abi you think just because some loyal Nigerian Nairaland women say "oh , they cant date a non-naija", therefore nobody finds other races attractive and your head dey swell?

a woman is a woman- stop fooling yourself. The fact that someone is dating blacks doesnt mean they wont date other races if they're so inclined.

Since when did I talk any of this rubbish you're talking about? Fooling myself where? Did I not mention the fact that I dont discriminate, I deal with girls of all races, I was just addressing the bullshit that alot of black women subscribe to (the bad attitude, weaving, skin-bleaching, deflecting blame and so on).
I didnt real all the way through this thread to even notice any womanliness-begging Naija men here talking about how they dont date non-Naija women. THATS THEIR PREFERENCE, I cant knock that.

Thats the problem with alot of you, you dont listen or read through the WHOLE statement, you just jump to conclusions, so eager to take offense, thats the problem with you black women, or just black people full stop, you cant check them, y'all cannot take any criticism. YEAH I'm Black but I dont subscribe to that bullshit.

tpiah*:


gosh, you desperately need some sense.

A lot of latina women have black blood- get it?

The hair you're seeing has sometimes been permed and straightened. Granted, not all of them, but even among Hispanics they have different hair lengths and textures. Dont just go around assuming because someone is Latina, therefore they have no black ancestors.

Most women in this world, change their natural appearance one way or another, so stop blowing hot air all over the place.

If artificial hair bothers you so much then dont forget to preach to your rastafarian brothers with flowing dreadlocks. Or did they tell you their butt length dreads are natural?

WHEN THE HELL DID I SAY THAT LATINAS HAVE NO BLACK IN THEM or all that other bullshit you're talking about. I beg YOU need some sense, you're just putting words in my mouth. I'm just saying that when white women try to get curves or tans, they dont have the black woman in mind, do you think alot of them even consider the fact that alot of Hispanic people have black blood in them? NO!! Do you really think that your typical Becky or Sally is gonna say ''hmmm, lemme try and get an hour-glass figure because Latina women have them and they have black blood blah blah blah''? COME ON!! And you say I have no sense, YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I cant stand black women like you.

You say a woman is a woman and blah blah, which is true, yet alot of you tend to love to differenciate yourselves from other women with your bragging and sloganising. I dont see white women talking about how they are strong white women, independent white women or all that rubbish, you might see some Asian and Hispanic women use slogans but not the way Black women do.

Alot of women change their natural appearence one way or another but that doesnt take away the fact that Black women go to the extreme and yet always come on that pro-black bullshit. That's the contradiction there. But like I said, I dont see as many Asian women getting eyelid surgery as much as I see black women wearing imitation hair, perming and damaging their hair or bleaching their skin. I cant take a woman who brags about her African features and so on and yet wears a weave or perms her hair seriously.

chiogo:

FL_Gators, don't waste your energy on him.

Stop yelling, mista. You're just contradicting yourself. Let's focus on the perm not the weave, I clearly gave you my stance on both. Oh, so sporting wave is made for black men and relaxers are made for who?? LOL na wa!!! And you know of relaxer's side effects because. . . .you've used it before? It works for some, doesn't work for others. It sure works for me, thank you very much. won't reply to the rest of what you wrote, not worth it.

Where did I contradict myself?

I didnt say that relaxers are not made for black womens' hair but it DAMAGES IT, sporting wave does not have the same effect. How wouldnt I know, do I need to use relaxers to know how damaging they are? NO!!! I know dudes who realxed their hair with that s-curl nonsense and are now bald and they are MY age, they all have those chemicals that burn away not just hair but can even damage skin too. Why am I even arguing this point? Its common knowledge.

How old are you? Keep using your relaxer and try to grow it in a year or so and see if I'm lying. You'll be balding soon, just know that lol.

You havent proven me wrong anywhere so yea its best you dont argue. You don't have a leg to stand on with me so just keep it moving.

chiogo:

^^^ Exactly

@Blood_Shed, I'm sure you get hair cuts and you probably use sporting wave(or whatever it's called) on your hair. Who knows whether it's a white man who made it? abeg stop deceiving yourself, you move with the times. Now, I'm not a fan of weaves 'cause I wouldn't wear one but I won't criticize those who do. We use different things to enhance our looks to make them the way we want it. I totally disagree with the perm thingy. No female in your family perms their hair - that's great!. . . .for them. Nobody should be subjected to your standard and whatnot. Last time I checked, a black woman invented the relaxer/lye products. So, how can it be inferiority complex when it was specifically made for black hair? Even some white women wear wigs, some try to braid their hair when the whole concept came from Africa. That means they're also suffering from 'inferiority complex'.

Does it matter who manufatcures the product, all I know is sporting wave is designed for BLACK hair and it doesnt do damage like relaxers. Ask a woman who has been perming her hair all her life to try and grow her hair and you'll realise that it cant grow as far as it once could. So how am I deceiving myself. Your deceiving yourself with that comment. In London most people who sell weaves are Indians/Asians, same for alot places in the US, so alot of black women are putting money into their pockets to buy imitation hair. So who's worse?
And like I keep saying, you DO get some white women (in rare cases) who try and braid their hair and all that but compared to Black women who wear weaves its non-bleeping existent and you know this.

chiogo:

One more thing, it's really boring when black men complain of black women attitude. I noticed only black men who are bums complain about 'ghetto black women'. If you got class, you'll be rolling with classy women too. what you see is what you get, buddy. Most black guys who claim they like white chicks better say it's because white chicks would do anything to keep a man = stupidity/desperation. Most of them have nothing to worry about like black women in foreign countries as well as in Africa do. Black women(most) on the other hand, know their roots, where they're coming from, what they're looking for, and where they're going to be subjected to some lazy drone's beck and call. If that means 'attitude' to you, then deal with it.

FOR THE bleeping LAST TIME, WHEN DID I COMPLAIN ABOUT ''GHETTO'' BLACK WOMEN?? Black women who behave the way I described are not just ''ghetto'' black women? READ MY POSTS, dont just read half way and just bitch. Don't stoop to using character assassinations, you dont know me so know urself.

What I find funny is the things that non-black women do to keep a Black man are just FEMININE things. Many black women feel that catering to their men and showing no attitude are somehow ''not black enough'' cos they somehow feel that they are letting the men walk all over them, yet doing things which a woman should do in the first place are seen as ''white'', yet wearing imitation white hair is not seen as ''white''. Something is wrong there. I see this with alot of Nigerian women, in London or when I was out there I saw that too.

FL Gators:

You have no point.

If you're not ashamed of the B.S you came up with, don't worry, am ashamed for you.

Black women wear weaves okay. . . . its mostly white women that go under surgeries, killing themselves to have curves like black women.

Black women do skin bleaching, okay. . . . white women do tanning. Both causes cancer.

MY POINT (sadly am the only one with one) is that not only black women deal with "inferiority complex" [if thats what you choose to call it].

Every race deteriorates their natural beauty in one way the other.

You, Blood Shed, just came here to downgrade black women with your nonsense. And plz, quit bringing Nigerian women into your B.S. That, I won't take

Lol, of course we are. Even BIG black women still got curves.
Big women of other races tend to lose their curves. White women with love handles (even when skinny), spanish women with big belly, flat chest and flat butt. Should I continue?

Yes some white women tan themselves and try and get curves but how does that mean they are trying to be BLACK women. Alot of Latina women have curves and darker skin as well. If alot of them were trying to be BLACK women then wouldnt they go as far as wearing imitation BLACK hair too?!

LOL Common sense aint common.

FL Gators:

Batman
No, obviously you don't.
I ask you again, are white women the only women with silky tresses?
wearing weave is being fake?
So you're assuming that we despise our natural beauty?

If so, then like oyina is trying to say, then all almost women lack natural.
Don't white women get highlights?
Are black women the only consumers of hair products and chemicals?
What about make-ups?

And don't give me the B.S about the difference between weaves and make-ups. Both constitute deterioration of natural beauty.
Teeth bleaching is so natural.
Tanning is so natural, another form of skin bleaching.
tanning is as deadly as skin bleaching, both cause skin cancer.

All those surgeries in brazil are so natural.
Enlargement of ass, boobs, lips to have curves as black women are so naturalllllllllllllll.
Don't put words in my mouth.
Cross dressing was my way of justifying how men can be fake too, since you implied that only women are fake.

haven't you seen black men with perms? With weaves?

You're running away from my point, whatever bullshit excuses you come up with, it doesnt hide the fact that wearing imitation hair is mostly due to inferiority complex.

Nobody does this more than BLACK WOMEN.

Enough said.

oyinda.:

well naturally, looks shouldn't come into the equation for men as compared to women. things concerning beauty and fashion are mostly a woman's business and the fact that you are taking so much pride in this "black male beauty" shows how objectified and sexified your lot are. In most societies, male role is usually a caregiver not the pretty partner. And we all know western beauty is the ideal which explains all the imitation. thousands of asian women go for eyelid operation to make their eyes more western afterall. and the latin ladies straighten their naturally curly hair for the same reason. it is harder however for black females to adapt to these ideals because we are the least similar to caucasians in terms of looks and that's where the seemingly "higher inferiority complex" comes from.

Yea those asian women who go for eyelid surgery are stupid too, you gotta take pride of what makes you or your race different. Which is why the ''western beauty'' is ideal, they dont fake, they just be themselves. Seeing a woman with locks or braids or long natural hair is something I hardly see. You'd think the women who look the most different would take pride in that and try and make themselves the ones who EVERYBODY else would try to imitate. Seeing women just burn their hair away with texturizers or covering their hair which is unique is disgusting. No female in my family wear weaves or perm their hair. Why should they? They take effort to GROW and manage their hair. What alot of black women do is just a textbook case of ''if you cant beat em, join em''. You can never give me a convincing reason on why black women wear weaves, shit is just horrible. No excuses.

oyinda.:

beauty standards don't apply for men on the other hand. how could you celebrate "black male beauty" unless u were gay!? or have become an objectified symbol, good for sex only  

I dont need to say anything, despite all the bullshit, women of ALL races find us very attractive, one of the main reasons is our confidence in how we look NATURALLY! Alot of females I know of other races tell me this. You dont get many men of other races checking for black women the way other races of fwomen check us, even you gotta admit this.

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what does apply and the most important areas that you seem to be avoiding (maybe intentionally) are economic, education, social, status etc and black men are on the bottom rung. do u dare to dispute to this fact? so yea u do come inferior in the important areas

bottom line, blacks in general are messed up and only God can bring us out of the pit we're currently in.

Well, I'm Nigerian so we have those educational values instilled in us so I and many others do/have done well in school and succeed, as for alot of Jamaicans an African Americans I cant speak for why they fail at school, I'd say laziness. But we all know how the court systems favour women and women are favoured in this economic crisis to get work ahead of men. Society is more sympathetic towards women and women still complain. But what you seem to forget is that black women have the highest incarceration rate among females in the US, so,

FL Gators:

My dear, a single grammatical error is nothing compared to lack of common sense.
S.t.u.p.i.d

Where have I shown a lack of common sense? You have just slipped up and down, mis-reading alot of my posts here. joker

FL Gators:

Oh yea, another one of those "Let's Be Natural" freaks.

Are white women the only one with silky hair texture? Get over your obsession with white women cuz they'll still spit on you, nigga

I sure hope men don't fake, a man with weaves? Oh what am I saying, cross dressers dey.

I aint obsessed with white women, I deal with chicks of all races. I'm just anti nigga/niggerette bullshit.

So wait, what makes me a freak if I prefer black women to wear their hair natural? What is so wrong with wearing your hair natural? To me thats much more beautiful, rather than seeing some ugly ass bitch with a weave that looks like curly fries. Seeing a black woman with a weave is like looking at a car with a straw roof.

I dont see white or non-black women wearing fake afros, yeah you might see a few white girls who wear dreads and braid their hair but compared to the amount of black women who wear weaves and perm their hair, come on man, its non-existent. Not to mention skin-bleaching, which is common among many Nigerian women, not saying other Africans and black people dont do it but in Nigeria it is very common.

And when black men cross dress it has nothing to do with them being ashamed of their race, those particular men just happen to be gays, transvestites, whatever. But its a normal thing for a black woman to wear imitation white woman's hair. Don't be naive, YOU KNOW THIS!! Its common knowledge.

FL Gators:

so hush it up and update yourself.
2009 ko 2000 and fine ni

Abeg get off my nuts

FL Gators:

*thumps up*

LOL, and you call me stupid, joker. Learn to spell, idiot.


And oyinda, regarding your statement;

''why compare black women to other races when black men compared to men of other races come out inferior in all areas except size''.

What areas do we come out inferior more than men of other races?

No black woman can tell me about comparing to people of other races when alot of you wear weaves, imitation white woman's hair. Black men dont fake, we work with what nature gave us, so looks dont even come into the equation because black women seem to have more of an inferiority comple when compared to women of other races.
Black male beauty is celebrated and even threatening somehow to men of other races.

, Its 2009

FL Gators:

Plz, don't even bring Nigerian into your AA mess.

Nigerian women care if you marry an AA or a white woman? Not all of them. Or are you saying we have no Nigerian woman marrying out of her race and ethnicity?

And yes, from your post, you do sound like you came from the ghetto. Bite me!!!


All am saying is, stop using Nigerian women to justify your stupidity.

Explain that. How do my posts make me sound like I came from a ghetto? And you call me stupid, lol, eediat.

And when a Nigerian woman marries outside the race she doesnt get as much heat as the Nigerian man does, dont act like they do, its too obvious.

FL Gators:

If you can't differentiate a Nigerian woman from a ghetto AA woman, then I plead you to shut your trap and stop trying to prove your foolishness.

So Asians are not rude? White women are perfectly harmonious.
I, please, imploy you to get out of your shell and explore the REAL world.

And where did I say anything about ghetto African Americans? Are you subconsciously saying that all African American females are ghetto? AAAh, who's being stupid now? I clearly said that if a Black woman is living in a non-ghetto environment then she may still have the African Queen/Diva complex, which can come with being wealthy or financially just well off.

And you're telling ME to explore the real world? lol. All my life I've been surrounded by people of diferent cultures, thats what comes with growing up in London, I aint saying that no other races of females have bad attitudes but compared to the number of Black women who have bad attitudes, its almost non-existent, even you gotta admit this.

Abeg, read my posts and stop playing captain save-a-hoe. Dickhead.

tpiah*:





Even in ghettos people dont act like this every single day.


So your own ghetto must be nastier than others. Either that or you live in a lunatic asylum, since you say you've experienced this kind of thing every single day of your life.

And of course not ruling out the possibility you're the aggravating factor!



and are you a ghetto funky black woman? _{you do sound like one}


Because the way you're cursing and screaming on this thread would put any ghetto fabulous queen to shame!

Your ignorance is too much. So everywhere black women are can be classified as ghetto? That seems to be your reasoning.

I dont live in a ghetto, I guess your not familiar with London and its demographics, and I also move around alot so I'm always around black people so what are you talking about?!

Abeg, you make no sense.

FL Gators:

Maybe if you stop disrespecting women like a hoodrat, she wouldnt assume that you grew up in the ghetto.

Howz it a culture to be an Afro-American? What culture? rotfl.

The fact that they were once taken from Africa or that they dislike the fact that they are of African heritage?

Are you thick in your head?

Where was I disrespectful in my original post? And even if so, how does that justify the assumption that I live in a ghetto? You gotta be stupid, use your brain if you got one.

It is a culture to be a Black woman, especially with Nigerians and Afro-Americans, I dont see this much with other African females, particularly East African, or non-Jamaican Caribbean women. The whole culture is that attitude, being rude, confrontational, cussing people out, you know, just acting a fool. They feel this somehow makes them more respectable.
Think about it, what do black women want us to like about them, what kind of slogans do they use? ''Strong'' Black woman, ''independent'' black woman'', ''I'm all that'' Black woman. All defiant slogans. They like to differenciate themselves from other races of women. Its all been glamorized in music, tv, all forms of media. And young women take this bullshit up.

tpiah*:

I feel your pain!

but try to move out of the ghetto!

and if all the black women you know are acting like that around you, then maybe you're the cause! In which case women of other races will also "perform" for you in their own way!

Not that I'm saying you should date black women oh. Dont read me wrong.

I dont live in a ghetto for your information. Where did that assumption come from? You fool

And how am I the cause? What you dont seem to realise is the fact that it is a culture to be a black woman, especially with Nigerian and Afro-American females, so it doesnt even matter how I act. If a typical black woman is living in a less ghetto environment she still has the diva/African queen complex anyway.

LOL Black women are making themselves the most undesirable women on the face of this planet. Me personally I deal with chicks of all races.

Do I care whether a black woman dates a man of another race? NO!!! Why the heck should I care? IT AINT MY BUSINESS. But black women (especially Nigerian and Afro-American women) are somehow programmed to bitch for no damn reason. They should check themselves, their horrible weaves and their nasty attitudes before they bitch. It aint about white women being more attractive than black women, COS THEY AINT!!! It's you black woman, you just cant learn to shut the Bleep and be a lady. Black men deal with other races of women because they find them to be more feminine. thats the truth.

For example, I havent seen Asian women acting a fool, cussing people out, fighting in the streets, rolling their necks or any of that shit, but EVERY DAY OF MY LIFE I've seen a black woman act like that, not even exaggerating.

minute:

I have heard God's voice before . . . . am pretty sure he has a two-pack-a-day habit

Goodluck on that!

LOL

Good to see another atheist here.

So when someone hears ''God'' teling him to kill people, these deluded freaks would say that he's mentally ill. They're right though, but the same applies to them too.

angelgirl1:

Things such as saving sex for marriage, and just general morality I follow those same rules because they are sensible.

But thats just common sense though. Without all the mythical stories and magic and so on, all you got is people talking common sense anyway. I never really needed religion for ''morality'' because actually, the Bible is the most immoral book I've ever read. A God that approves of killing, raping and torturing people in his name is clearly mentally unstable.
I's good you saw the light early though.

Nice so see another atheist here. Where in the US are you based?

hackney:

I guess its like comparing NewYork and LA.
One is all day everyday bustle with no space and the other one bustles but not so much though it has the best crazy-expensive housing.
Depending on what you really like,you choose one or the other as they are very different.

What are you talking about? LA and NY are much more comparable than Abuja to Lagos.

davidylan:

Even if i told you . . . you'd still repeat the question tomorrow.

So in other words you dont know. Stop frontin and admit you lost here.

Just a simple answer and this thread could have been over a long time ago.

blacksta:

i Prefer London anytime.

LOL, beat me to it.

Damn I cant wait to get back in a few months. Back to civilization lol

Tùdor:

As long as a majority of nigerians remain slaves to this religion stupidity,theres no hope for this country

True

davidylan:

Be afraid . . . be very afraid . . . God is "evil" and He will burn all sinners in hell.
This thread will stand against you on that day. Be very afraid.

You seem to revel in that thought.

This is what I dont get about you religious fuccs. Often in the mind state of ''I love Jesus, I love all human beings, Die non-believer ''.

You're supposed to be on the higher moral peddlestool yet you always rub your hands with glee when talking about how us ''non-believers'' will get it on ''that day''and so on.

Some disturbing ish man

I dont know why we should even debate dogma. Dogma is totally blind to hat reason has to say and it dissolves your arguement before you've even thought of anything to say.

This is the same book that has talking donkeys for goodness sake. Its amazing when one girl here is talking about translations in Hebrew and rah rah rah. Do you think Israelis or Arabs care about what Africans have to say about their religion. Islam is for Arabs, Christianity/Judaism is for Israelis.

How can Africans go out of their way to embrace a religion and culture that has nothing to do with them and clearly doesnt respect them?

LMAO The contradictions are too much.

The appropriate question is why they DONT pay taxes,

Nope.

Despite my height, alot of people seem to think I'm like 17-18.

manmustwac:

You are all christians not because u decided to become christians but because that was the religion that was indoctrinated into your brains from a very young age. If yuor parents were muslims and u were all brought up in a country like Saudi Arabia do you think u would be worshipping Christianity or Islam?

!!That too^!

And it shows when you try to reason with some of them about their faith, they either get violent, or shout, STOP IT while holding their ears.
It's actually very scary and disturbing.

Quoting scripture to reason

Just repeating whats in the Bible is NOT discussing it, thats just preaching.

Cant people think for themselves, why must you use scripture for every answer and in most cases its irrelevant anyways.

huxley:

An atheist does not sin against anyone. In the world of an atheist, there is no such thing as sins. However, crimes, offenses, violations, infringements etc are notions recognised in the atheist world.

If an atheist commits an evil act, such acts could be committed againts individuals persons, societies, communities (or against other sentients animals). But never against a supernatural being.

Bruv, its useless.

No matter how far you dumb it down they just dont get it.

All this talk about what religion is ''best''?

Like most of you have actually been exposed to every single religion. You only absorb the religion that's native to your region. If outsiders had never brought Islam and Christianity to Naija we won't even be talking about this.
None of you would believe in Christianity if it wasnt for slavery and colonialism.