ChiefOloye:


You don't have commonsense. CNN usually put the source of their data information (John Hopkins University) on their screen. You can do your findings independently, if you have the brain to, rather than being an embarrassment to your family.

Don't mind him. Even today, the CDC is reporting it's highest single day increase in vaccine administration since they started

NewDelhi:
Remember the Covid 19 updates CNN always put on their screen when the Republicans were still in power (see image below), now that the Democrats rule, they have removed it. No more #2000 deaths recorded today, no more 100k people tested positive today. Covid is nothing but a political tool.

What do people enjoy from telling childish lies? Where's the Christianity you guys portray? You say covid-19 is a political tool, yet Biden signed executive orders to tackle it on his very first day in office?

What do you have to say about the image below?

Patriarchy001:


..and of course, you are his PA to know whether he called the parents and met with them personally

.....and of course, you're his S.A who kumuyi confirmed to that he hasn't contacted them?

GreyLaw:


If you are strong enough to agree, please feel free to quote me by January 20th or earlier. I don't want to argue. I just have much more information than I can share here. And no, it has nothing to do with all that is out there.

Give it time. I keep saying that Biden will NOT get even a second as US president. Quote me when it's all said and done. Many of you will get shocked, but that's because you all wanted to be shocked.

I usually don't want to have this discussion because most Biden supporters are just plain disrespectful (not you) and it just degerates into arguments. Going by your logic, people should give in to a system simply because it is old? See, all I am saying has nothing to do with the fraud that is purported. I am saying something different and will not say more than this until the 20th of January when Trump will again be sworn in.

A lot of people have no idea what this whole thing is all about. Good luck rooting for Biden. Unfortunately the man is going down with his cohorts.

It really makes little or no difference if Biden becomes president or if Trump gets a 3rd term. What's patently obvious is that the orange turd has exposed the US Presidential system as a cesspool of sleaze and corruption. The same electoral process made Trump president in 2016 and Hillary, despite the shock of loss, conceeded inside 24 hrs while votes were still being tallied and no single state had certified. Obama invited Trump to come visit within 48 hrs and Biden extended the same courtesy to Pence but today, a so-called christian candidate is trampling down on the norms that have guided the US for over 200 years.

I just wanted to stop the lies from your group that Biden was overstepping when in actual fact, Trump is the indecent human who lacks any sense of propriety. If they like, they should give 5 terms, na dem sabi.

The SCOTUS just threw out the reckless lawsuit filed by republicans to overturn pennsylvania elections. Let's hope they'll keep up using their number 6 in subsequent cases and preserve some dignity for Americans.

GreyLaw:


Sir, and when you do proper research you'll find out he hasn't even won the election. He should wait for the electors to vote. He should simply wait for December 14 and January 6th. The constitution says it is the electors that's decide, not even even the popular votes.

The electors can vote their conscience as the constitution stipulates. They are not mandated to follow the popular vote. There is a lot happening. I hope Mr. Joe can relax and not put himself and others in harm's way.

Just a few more days isn't too much to wait.

emkz:
I find this distasteful.

Joe won the election. But he needs to pipe it down. Making policy statements and holding meetings on policy and strategy in the eye of the press demystifies the office of the sitting President. It is not about Trump but about the office. He can hold his meetings and prepare his cabinet and do the transition rituals, but he needs to remember there is still a sitting President who serves out on January 20th, 2021 at noon.

I am in support of the Pentagon blocking his team. He is not yet President.

You guys should try to read up and stop spreading ignorance on social media. Biden won, in a better and more solid way, than Trump did in 2016 yet Clinton conceeded within 24 hrs of the elections while counting was still going on and Obama called to congratulate Trump while Biden called to congratulate Pence. If Trump the liar decides to be a buffoon, that's his cup of tea but you guys should be better than Trump.

In 2016, Trump started requesting high level security clearance for his criminal children on Nov 14, that's just 6 days after the election before any state even certified!! Has Biden done such? Trump met with the Japanese prime minister on Nov 17th, 9 days after the election before any certification, did Obama or Clinton or Biden complain? They didn't because they knew it was the process that's been on for over 200 years until the Orange turd happened on the scene.

See below link for a timeline of how the 2016 transition went compared to the childishness Trump is doing now

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/timeline-of-2016-and-2020-election-transitions-between-trump-obama-2020-11%3famp

donnie:


Well, I gave a lot...a whole lot, thank goodness I left at the appointed time.
If she leaves she will recover herself. Pray for her, and you can share this with her as well.
It's beyond expecting a return, they put their whole lives into the "ministry". Except you're just a casual member.

WARNING NIGERIA: I SAW A SWORD OVER THE LAND 23.01.2020


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4YqWGt2jKs

are you kidney me rainow? donnie, is this you?

Thank God for you o

Gombs:


it's 4 years now

CC
Vbcampaign

joblessness dey worry you i guess

It's your busybody that brought my moniker to comment on this thread since it's inception otherwise i would never have posted here. It was obviously an overreach by those who started the thread.

Longest time. How you dey?

petra1:


So when did he become his God .

Gen 28

20.Then Jacob made a vow, saying, “If God will be with me, and keep me in this way that I am going, and give me bread to eat and clothing to put on, 21.so that come back to my father’s house in peace, then the Lord shall be my God

Jacob was the son of Isaac and grandson of Abraham but like his twin brother, Esau, he was just like any pastor's child who had no relationship with God even though God already had a plan for his life before he was born. He was like any other rebellious youth. The dream he had changed his outlook and made him vow to do what he hadn't being doing prior to that time. If God fulfilled his part, only then would the LORD become his God and he promised to give a tenth of whatever profits came his way in Syria.

ichuka:

Fine bro
Presumed u n ur family are good

Yeah bro. Thanks

petra1:


He has always been his God .

Like he has always been Shekau and Al Baghdadi's God whether they acknowledged him or not.

When did he become God to Jacob? I'm sure you can tell when your relationship with God started? When did Jacob's own start?

petra1:


Read my post well . I believe it answerd you . Jacob sis not only vow tithe and according to your logic . He shouldn’t have vowed to tithe if he was already a tither if I get you well . But he didn’t vow tithe alone he also vowed God will be his God But was God not his God already ?

Your post answered nothing.

When did God become his God? Did Esau also acknowledge God as his God?

petra1:


Jacob made 3 vows
1.God would be his God
2.He would build a house of God
3.He would give tithe

Genesis 28:21-22 (KJV Strong's)
And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the Lord be my God: And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and of all that thou shalt give me I will surely give the tenth [/b]unto thee.

[b]He said God would be his God . But God was already his God. Why would he be praying to God if he wasn’t his God . So tithing also was already a culture to him . It’s when sometimes a christian says to God “ LORD IF YOU GET ME OUT OF THIS TROUBLE I WILL WORSHIP YOU FOREVER . It’s only an affirmation .

Just like your son is already a pastor and man of God because you claim to be right? Just like Eli's children were true priests of God because their father was and they too used to chop from the proceeds of sacrifices due to priests of God right? What of wayward Esau, Jacob's twin brother? was God already his God too?

In fact, just like i'm a christian because my father has always been since i was born right?

petra1:



The spoil were all the income and profit of the war as that time . That’s only an incidence of Abraham tithing . And if a man could deligenr to tithe of spoil of war you can imagine what he does as a lifestyle

Which means the OP told a lie? I'm still waiting for you to correct the lie told by the OP or you didn't read the title of the thread before you decided to post?

All you've pushed here are your own conjectures. I've asked you before to tell me who Abraham was paying his 'monthly tithes' to and you've always run away from answering that. Has the Holy Spirit finally revealed that to you?

plainbibletruth:


So, are you saying that that is no longer part of Scriptures or that not all scripture is divinely inspired as some can be mistakes of men?

How far will you guys go in trying to make portions of Scripture agree with your conceived position on tithing?

You opened a thread just to discredit some other position. Now I hope you'll be man enough to admit your error.

There's no doubt that these guys will have to write their own bibles one day and i think that day is very soon.

Imagine him saying Apostle Paul's revelation was a mistake because it upended his faulty position on tithes?

Desyner:
Lord Jesus endorsed tithe in Mathew 23:23.


"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgement, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. ."

Over to our intellectual gangsters. Bully me into the knowlegde of the 'truth'.

What do you have to say to this express command from Jesus in the first verses of Mathew 23

1.Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to His disciples, 2.saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3.Therefore whatever they tell you to observe, that observe and do, but do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do.

Do you do everything the scribes and Pharisees(who sit in Moses seat) command you to do as Jesus ordered?

Ken4Christ:


Well, that was Apostle Paul’s analysis of the transaction that took place. I believe in the revelation shared by Apostle Paul but he is a man who also can make mistakes. Read the entire passage in Genesis chapter 14 and you will see that Abraham vowed he won't have anything to do with the spoils.

Even at then, Daddy Freeze used it as an example to prove that Abraham never gave tithe of what belonged to him and neither did any Saints before the Law. But Jacob his grandson vowed to give God a tenth of all that God will bless him with. Where did Jacob learn the culture of tithe if not from his father.

Abraham left his place of abode at Mamre with over 318 armed men to go rescue Lot, pursuing the invading kings to Dan. Can you please explain where in the bible it's written that Abraham carried the goats, sheep, donkeys, gold and silver he would have paid as tithe along with the armoury for the war he was going to fight? How would people going on an emergency war carry such baggage along? Also you're truly very bold and brazen. In order to justify this fraudulent tithe you preach, you're ready to reduce the revelation of Apostle Paul? which other mistake did Paul make? or is it only in tithe he committed a blunder?

Jacob made a vow contingent upon God fulfilling a demand he made which is solid proof that it wasn't a laid down tenet or law his father was abiding by. If tithe was obligatory on him, he wouldn't use it to trade with God since according to you and others, the tithe already belonged to God

ichuka:

Lol
Good,hearing from some resting gaints lately.

giant ke? abeg o

How are you doing my brother?

Ken4Christ:
I have read the encounter Abraham had with Melchizedec and I don't agree with the general notion that it was from the loot of the war that Abraham gave Melchizedec tithe.

What kind of war did Abraham fight? He went to rescue Lot and the people of Sodom and Gomorrah. In addition, he went to recover the goods taken that belong to Sodom and Gomorrah and Lot his nephew.

The King of Sodom told Abraham to keep the recovered goods and give him the people. But Abraham said,

Genesis 14:22-23.
22....I have lift up mine hand unto the LORD, the most high God, the possessor of heaven and earth,

23 That I will not take from a thread even to a shoelatchet, and that I will not take any thing that is thine, lest thou shouldest say, I have made Abram rich:

24 Save only that which the young men have eaten, and the portion of the men which went with me, Aner, Eshcol, and Mamre; let them take their portion.

Abraham rejected the loot, so how did he then give 10% of the loot he refused to take?

Different version rendered the transaction differently but I prefer to stick to the Kings James Version.

It said,

Genesis 14:18-20.
18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

The last phrase says, he gave him tithe of all. It didn't say, he gave him tithe of the loot. If it did, then Abraham would not tell the King of Sodom, I am not interested in the loot.

So, what tithe did he pay. He gave him tithe of all he had. The question is, was Abraham carrying his possession along? Certainly not. But he certainly had knowledge of all he had. As such, he could appoint his servants to deliver the goods or tithe to Melchizedec.

If the Saints before the Law never paid tithe of what belonged to them, why did Jacob, Abraham's grandson made a vow which reads,

Genesis 28:20-22.
20 And Jacob vowed a vow, saying, If God will be with me, and will keep me in this way that I go, and will give me bread to eat, and raiment to put on,

21 So that I come again to my father's house in peace; then shall the LORD be my God:

22 And this stone, which I have set for a pillar, shall be God's house: and OF ALL THAT THOU SHALT GIVE ME I WILL SURELY GIVE THE TENTH UNTO THEE.

So, it was the culture to pay tithe of what one possesses even before the Law was given. It was not the exclusive rights of the Levites to collect tithes as he was not yet born when Abraham and Jacob tithed.

So, Daddy Freeze and Anti Tithes should go back and read the Bible clearly. They are agents of darkness fighting what God is doing in the Church. The devil wants to cripple the Church but they will not succeed in the name of Jesus.

Don't also think it is your tithe that makes a man of God rich. A thousand times no. Most of these men of God are givers themselves and they have their gifts and talents that brings money to them. In addition, they receive financial and material favours from members who have been blessed by their messages.

and like the crafty pulpit crook that you're, you forgot that this same episode was touched on in Hebrews chapter 7

4 Now consider how great this man was, to whom even the patriarch Abraham gave a tenth of the spoils

Spoils of what did Abraham give Melchizedek a tenth of?

williamben:


If you say he is fake would you like to do me the honours of bringing the original. If you lack the itinerary of scheduling yourself to read, why would his reading forty thousand books a problem to you? Please say something else or make it a culture to educate yourself by reading. Secondly, you say he is a fraudster don't you think it takes a fraudster to catch one or thief to catch one. When your nefarious acts are exposed you take up arms and start whining like a child whose lost its biscuit. Subhuman, wow! Look at this psychotic idiotic cretin. A dingbat who should be sober for being stupid dare to call Gods creation subhuman. May you fall short of Nebuchadnezzar, you dimwit. For opening your mouth at my Father your children will slap you in public and disgrace you. Troglodyte in the making.

See all the 'holyghost' inspired words coming out from the latrine this fireman calls a mouth? Did you receive the anointing for all these insults from another fire encounter?

Is it this same septic tank you'll use to communicate with Jesus?

AntiWailer:


Awon werey.


Open account add 2017 , praise Fireman, abandon the handle , open another one.

Dr fireman that claimed he's read forty thousand books and received the scar on his face from the encounter he had with the holy ghost. The guy must be one of the most unintelligent fraudsters ever to climb a pulpit. The only miracle he has performed is getting sub humans to actually attend his church. I'm sure he's the same crook opening the numerous monikers here to deceive and prop himself.

Gombs:


I'd quote you by January

Alot of your ilk have tried and failed. Pastorkun, goshen360, candour, etc


You're just joining the queue. Some of us have been here too long and have seen it all.

My friend Gombs has snuck out from under his pastors desk to come defend the tithe scam again

Do you have any testimony to regal us with from your tithe exploits?

Though this one that pasitor joeagbaje aka Petra has been on rampage opening tithe thread after tithe thread, something seems fishy. Did the church accountant complain of a drop in income? Did the jerry curled crook issue a query to Joe?

longjohnsilver:


I remember this car crash...it was December 2, 2000 or so.

It was at the toll gate at the Ife end of the Ibadan-Ife expressway

I was saved from encountering the accident by God that used my uncle to delay my trip that fateful day, because the accident reportedly happened few hours after i left the garage and went back home.

Sometimes in this life sef, if your time is not up...nothing can touch you.

I saw wreckages the next day i eventually travelled...damn it was gory.

November 4th 2000 actually

Explorers:
10. The newly wedded couple with their friends, maids that died in a tanker explosion, one of the worst ever multi-vehicle accidents, killing between 100 and 200 people near Ibadan, Oyo State, Nigeria, November, 2000.





The accident occurred outside Ibadan, on a stretch of motorway connecting Ibadan and Ife in Osun State to the East, about 250 km north of Lagos.

Nigeria suffers heavy traffic circulation problems, and this day was no exception, with a large traffic jam covering all lanes of the road and numerous pedestrians weaving in between them including the the new couple.


A large petrol tanker, carrying fuel was travelling on the same road at high speed, when it suddenly encountered the traffic jam and attempted to come to a halt.

At this point, the poorly maintained vehicle suffered a total brake failure, and ploughed straight into the queue of cars ahead including the motorcade of the newly wedded couple.

The numbers killed in the initial collision were probably high, but they will never be known, because the tanker, which had finally come to rest on its side had begun to leak its highly flammable load onto the roadway.

Within seconds, this trail was alight, and the tanker disappeared in an enormous fireball, which rose above the city and devastated a wide area around the accident scene.

Those still in their cars were trapped in the crash wreckage and burnt alive.

Those who tried to escape were also burnt till they fell, those standing too close were immolated instantly, while those further away were burnt to death or hit by flying shrapnel from the blast.

Burning wreckage caused several small fires in nearby suburbs.

The police and other rescue services did not offer any assistance until some time after the blast, and so numerous bodies were removed by relatives or volunteer rescuers and privately buried, whilst others were simply vapourised in the initial explosion or cremated in the fire that followed.

Lalasticlala, Mynd44

Can't ever forget this day and incident. NOVEMBER 4TH 2000. A VERY CRUEL SATURDAY

Also, the accident was caused by greedy policemen who stopped vehicles to collect roja at the unfinished Ile-Ife toll gate knowing fully well that a very sharp bend was the approach to the toll gate.

It was indeed a sad sight of FRSC pickups moving the burnt bodies to teaching hospital. Of course OAU students burnt the policemen's station wagon in anger but the officers had escaped by then

Hello Justwise, Salford1, maziude, mizbaby, jejelaye01, senatorkolade and other authorities on Canadian affairs.

How much will a post graduate degree program in Canada cost a young mom and 2 kids? I know what the university websites say but I'll appreciate real life figures for those who are on ground ie living expenses, feeding, housing, medicals, daycare etc

Also any other important info you think will be be necessary to make the whole venture a success and worthwhile.

Thanks in advance

OnePunchMan:


Wow! As they said in time magazine, Lagos really is an expensive slum.. one pays premium for rubbish and nonsense

It's not a small thing

Mcowubaba:


Comfort you say.

How long will he continue to live in Lekki.
3 million times how many years, 10 years alone is 30 million just for rent.
When he gets sacked or other unforseen contingencies, where will the family stay, can the keep up with the rent
Or the will now move to Isolo or Ibafo

Unless your relative's husband is saving up and building his personal house somewhere or he is seriously investing into various businesses, my brother, he is on a Long thing.

I have a hustling spirit, maybe that's why things work out for me, believe me, if I work in Lekki, I will never live in any accommodation that cost me 3 million Naira per year, even though my salary is in Millions, unless as I said before, my company is paying for the accommodation with no option of me getting the cash

well, i'm sure they've thought things through before embarking on the journey. Counting the cost before commencing is the best and most sensible thing in matters like these. If things go awry after every every, no one to blame but yourself.

Keep on with your hustling bro. Your call will surely be picked

Mcowubaba:

I didn't know.
Even at that, I can't spend that amount of money for a 3 bedroom flat in NIGERIA.
Unless it's a company that's paying for me with no option of me collecting the accommodation allowance.

I must not live in Lekki.
Iyana apaja, Mushin, Surulere dey, wey I fit get 500k apartment, I go package my 500K per year apartment ,eh go better pass the apartments wey dey for Lekki phase 1

Secondly

I will go and build my own house.
3 million can buy a plot of land in my state of origin.
16 million can build a 7 bedroom moderate 1 storey duplex, with borehole and change for Generator.

Different strokes for different folks bro. You're right and those who pay such are right too.

This relative's husband works in Lekki and he feels it's better to be near his work place than spend hours in hold-up commuting from a far away place in Lagos. comfort means different things to different people

ichuka:

Wow!!
Longtime bro.
Greetings to your family

My dear bro Chuka, how you dey? longest time.
Regards to your family too

ifyalways:
I too lie cos I tried to educate your ignorant self on what's obtainable on ground?

OK, bye.

Mcowubaba:

$6,000 is like 2.4 million in black market.
So that can't pay for a 1 year rent of a 3 bedroom apartment in Ikoyi or Lekki phase 1.
U too lie.

How much is it 3 million per year

ifyalways is very correct. went to visit a relative at one posh estate by jakande roundabout in lekki close to shoprite there and she told me their rent is N3M/Year without adding the 40 or 50k monthly service charge plus whatever others and she claims theirs is even cheap since it's only a 3 bedroom with a penthouse.

Duplexes and detached houses in the estate go for way higher.

ichuka:

Compliment Bro.
Longest time.

Wish you same. Trust all is well with you and yours

BERNIMOORE:
Nothing to hold on, they are hell bent on cherry-picking selected tithe law, they are bent on misleading, but objective readers can easily discern their lustful greedy motives, kudos to All on this page standing by the truth, no one is saying that you shouldn't donate to the church but don't call it tithe because we are not under curse but grace

Very correct!!

CHARLOE:

Just wondering how d senator that went there to Investigate died, did he drink d poisonous juice?

The guys plane was ambushed by gun men loyal to Rev Jim Jones and they executed him and some members that chose to leave Jones town with him.

Its why Jim Jones ordered the mass suicide. He knew the govt was going to come after him bigly