Magnoliaa:


A conversation is a two-way thing and I do not see how you can "share" that, in light of the fact that I've been telling you off, but go on. Say the one in your mouth.

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Magnoliaa:


A conversation is a two-way thing and I do not see how you can "share" that, in light of the fact that I've been telling you off, but go on. Say the one in your mouth.

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Magnoliaa:


Evidence 1 that the booktok part of TikTok is frying my brain:

Why did I come back to read this and it's suddenly giving the same energy as Christian Grey buying the publishing house where Anastasia Steele worked, and then firing her boss? 🤣🤣

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BigYash:
Most young ladies of these days prefer men that lies .. Men that can form what they are not.. Men that sing the song they wanna hear. Men that can promise them heaven on earth just to get them nailed..

There is some truth in what you said Sha but it isn't always the case.

LeoThaGreat:
Funnily, I have the cons of a High Value Man and the pros of a High Quality Man.

What term do we name this? Super High Quality Value man?

A Hybrid

JessicaRabbit:
@CuteMike01

I really don't enjoy being the one to pour the sand in your proverbial garri here but while your article does bring up some interesting points, I find your whole categorization to be a bit limiting. For me, I think the best partner for any man or woman is someone who checks all of his/her boxes, not someone who fits into a neat little pre-packaged label. As a lady, I don't think it's wise to settle for a knock-off version of someone else's ideal man. I'd be more interested in finding someone who complements me, challenges me, and makes me the best version of myself. So there's that.

You aren't pouring sand into anything of mine. I asked for your contributions remember? The post is generalized to get opinions from as many people as possible - to engage in a discussion.

Goodlyhrt:
You raised good point but how practical for a man to possess all these traits.

Humans are just.. humans! You gotta love us whether high valued or not.

I just try to be happy these days. If we don't vibe then we don't ride.

These traits are traits that come by a person's design which is further nourished to become high value and rated by society. It encapsulates personal growth, self awareness and a deeper understanding of one's life.

As humans, we fall into the extreme, neutral or low end of the scale by our natural preferences. That is why we are either too different, similar or moderate in our interactions with others.

These two categories of men do exist in our society and has been proven through experiences, questionnaires, science research and many other human personality assessments.

It is quite easier to spot or come across a true high value man than to identify with or encounter a true high quality man as they are rarer and often thrive in the background. Nevertheless, they both exist and dominate today's society. You're more likely to comes across hybrids or other archetypes of men.

The high quality men are significantly rarer and by natural preferences seek to remain in the background and shun unwanted attention. They are also sometimes referred to as the loners of the society. Refusing to be bound to societal structures.

Think of the man who always moves alone - everywhere you spot this man, he is always alone and hardly tries to bond emotionally with as many people as he encounters. He never joins or belongs to any group but hovers around each one as a temporal member. He seems robotic during conversations and always maintains a sharp look on his face.

Auxtan:

I tell you Some people will begin to lose their natural self in order to please girls of being either of these type of men

It is a scale in which individuals fall into. We also have the female versions of these types but that isn't the focus today.

By your natural preferences and personality design, you tend to subconsciously gravitate towards any of these two archetypes more than the other whether you are aware or not. The thing is - which one do you find yourself naturally drawn to or aspiring to be? Which archetypes do your core personality strengths and weaknesses tend to go with?

Zonefree:
Nonsense post!

Both archetypes of men exist thereby this post is a real thing. Besides, let the women give their replies.

Sonnobax15:

Instead of you to just kukuma give Dem clay and water so that they can comfortably mould their rubbish,you just here capping Arab.

Yet these two groups of men can be found in today's society. What is your point?

When it comes to relationships and choosing a partner, it's important to distinguish between a high value man and a high quality man. In this article, we would be looking into the concepts of both, their associated strengths and drawbacks of being in a relationship with both and leave the decision to the women on who is their version of an ideal partner.

Who is a High Value Man?

A high value man is someone who possesses traits and qualities that make him highly desirable in various aspects of life. This could include characteristics like ambition, success, charisma, and confidence. He may be financially stable, socially adept, and have a strong sense of leadership. Most women are drawn to the high value man due to their success and high status in the society.

Benefits of Being with a High Value Man:

1. Boost in Confidence: They often exude robust self-confidence, which can be both attractive and comforting in a relationship, providing a reassuring presence in your life.

2. Strong Leadership: These men typically possess potent leadership skills, making them reliable partners who can guide the relationship and make well-informed decisions that benefit both parties.

3. Inspired Ambition: Their relentless drive and ambition can be incredibly motivating, possibly enhancing your shared lifestyle, and encouraging you to pursue your dreams with similar fervor.

4. Emotional and Financial Security: High Value Men often bring a sense of security, both emotionally and financially, ensuring a stable and supportive environment for you to thrive in.

5. Elevated Social Status: They usually have extensive social networks and high social standing, which can introduce you to new opportunities and enriching experiences.

6. Protection and Support: Their assertiveness translates into a protective and supportive nature, making you feel safe and valued in the relationship.

7. Intense Passion: The strong, passionate personality of a high value man can make your relationship deeply exciting and engaging, adding a vibrant dynamic to your interactions.

8. Rich Experience: High Value Men often carry a wealth of life and professional experiences, which they openly share, offering insightful perspectives and wisdom.

9. Efficient Problem-Solving: Their decisive and analytical mindset helps tackle challenges effectively, providing prompt and practical solutions to any obstacles you may face together.

10. Motivational Influence: Being with someone who is highly driven can boost your own motivation, encouraging personal growth and self-improvement.

Drawbacks to Consider:

1. Overwhelming Dominance: Their dominant nature might at times feel overbearing, potentially disrupting a healthy balance in the relationship's decision-making process.

2. Stressful High Expectations: High standards set by High Value Men can be stressful, possibly leading to feelings of inadequacy or pressure to meet their expectations.

3. Emotional Distance: Their strong independence may sometimes come across as emotional detachment, making it challenging to connect on an intimate level.

4. Big Ego: A High Value Man’s sizable ego can create difficulties in compromising or admitting mistakes, which might hinder effective communication and conflict resolution.

5. Relationship Competitiveness: Their inherent competitiveness might seep into the relationship, leading to unnecessary conflicts and power struggles.

6. Workaholic Tendencies: Given their ambition, High Value Men might frequently prioritize work over quality time, potentially causing feelings of neglect or frustration.

7. Public Image: Trying to maintain a specific image can make the relationship seem shallow. High Value Men may feel obligated to uphold a certain public image, potentially leading both partners to act according to societal expectations rather than being authentic. This focus on appearances can weaken the bond by prioritizing perception over genuine connection.

8. Control Issues: High Value Men may display controlling behavior, limiting their partner's freedom. Accustomed to making decisions, they might extend this control to their relationships, influencing their partner's choices and activities. This can leave their partner feeling stifled, inhibiting self-expression and impeding personal growth.

9. Pressure to Perform: Dating a highly successful individual can create pressure to match their achievements. High Value Men often adhere to high standards, prompting their partner to feel the need to reach similar levels of success, resulting in stress, feelings of inadequacy, and constant comparison affecting self-esteem and happiness.

10. Social Scrutiny: Relationships with well-known individuals attract unwanted attention and judgment. High Value Men's influence often draws public interest, leading to media scrutiny, gossip, paparazzi intrusion, and social media rumors. This external pressure can strain the relationship, invade privacy, hinder simple moments, and escalate minor issues into public drama, causing unnecessary tension.

Who is a High Quality Man?

A High Quality Man is described as an individual who chooses to live outside social dominance hierarchies. High Quality Men are seen as self-sufficient, independent, aloof, and mysterious individuals who do not conform to traditional social norms. They are typically charismatic, confident, and have a strong sense of self. They are often admired for their intelligence, creativity, and ability to think independently.

Benefits of Being With A High Quality Man:

1. Their confidence: They have a quiet confidence that doesn’t need external validation. High Quality Men often exude confidence and self-assuredness, which can be very appealing to women. Since their confidence isn't based on external factors but from within, it can't be shaken easily.

2. Their Independence: Their ability to function well on their own and not rely on others for validation can be seen as attractive. Women who appreciate a man who can think for himself and live his life without seeking the approval of others tend to be drawn to him.

3. Their Genuine Mystery: The High Quality Man tends to be enigmatic and intriguing. He possesses a genuine sense of mystery in spades which other men tend to lack, which can be alluring to women who enjoy a challenge.

4. Their Charisma: Many High Quality Men possess a quiet charisma and unique charm, making them engaging and captivating to be around. Women can perceive this charisma and usually seek to get more of it.

5. Their Emotional Depth: Despite their aloof exterior, High Quality Men can often be emotionally intelligent and have a depth that draws women towards them. They are able to make deeper connections with the women they engage with.

6. Their Self-Sufficiency: They take care of themselves and don't need anyone to manage their lives. Therefore, they have little to no drama in their lives.

7. Their Authenticity: They are true to themselves and live by their own rules no matter who is watching. This authentic lifestyle can be a breath of fresh air to women who value authenticity.

8. Their Stoicism: Because they aren't really connected to the external environment, they remain calm and composed, even in tough situations, which can turn some women on.

9. Their Empathy: Though seeming contradictory, they tend to understand others’ feelings while maintaining their emotional independence, which leaves women intrigued.

10. Their Intelligence: When it comes to intelligence, High Quality Men are in a league of their own. They are often well-read, knowledgeable, and able to think critically, often thinking outside the box and bringing unique perspectives to the table. They also are great at finding effective and innovative solutions to challenges, which a number of women adore.

11. Their Minimalism: They focus on what’s essential and avoid unnecessary clutter in life. They never show off their goods or seek to impress anyone. Rather, they divert their funds selfishly to their goals.

12. Their Non-Conformity: They don’t follow societal trends and prefer to forge their own paths, which brings a sense of adventure and danger which some women are drawn to.

13. Their Focus: They are highly focused and often have well-defined goals they are driven to achieve, often setting high standards for themselves and others around them.

14. Their Adaptability: They can adjust to different situations and environments with ease - blending into various social dynamics without forfeiting their true identity.

15. Their Curiosity: They are eager to learn and explore new ideas and experiences including the women they are in relationships with, which gives the woman a deeper sense of being understood.

16. Their Loyalty: Though it may tarry, when they commit to someone or something, they are extremely loyal, which women tend to appreciate eventually.

17. Their Respectfulness: They respect others’ boundaries and expect the same in return.

18. Their Strong Moral Code: They usually have a strong sense of character, live by their principles, and hold themselves to a high ethical standard.

19. Their Resilience: When difficulties arise, they almost never fall into complaining or pointing fingers but immediately start to work on ways to overcome them. They often bounce back from setbacks and don’t let failures define them. They are also relentless in pursuing their goals, no matter the obstacles, which leaves women in awe.

20. Humility: Despite their many strengths, they remain humble and do not brag about their achievements.

These traits combine to form a person who is self-assured, intriguing, and reliable, making High Quality Men quite appealing to many women.

Drawbacks To Consider:

1. Fierce Independence: High Quality Men may prioritize their independence over the relationship, making some women feel neglected or secondary. It isn't easy dating him as he tends to place his independence over the relationship.

2. Aloofness: Their aloof and mysterious nature can make it difficult for partners to understand their feelings and intentions, which can bring about negative feelings.

3. Commitment issues: High Quality Men may struggle with commitment, preferring to maintain their freedom and resist traditional relationship structures.

4. Difficulty in opening up: They may find it challenging to express their emotions or communicate effectively, leading to issues in the relationship.

5. Need for space: High Quality Men often require alone time and personal space, which can be difficult for some partners to navigate, especially women who tend to be very emotional.

6. Not Enough Support Networks: Due to the lack of a wider tribe, there could be a case of lower support networks when challenges arise. Though this challenge can be overcomed due to the aforementioned strengths mentioned above.

Both categories of men possess distinct qualities that make them special in their own right. The decision to choose between them ultimately rests on the individual woman. It is common for men in society to naturally lean towards one of these two groups, leading to the question:

As a woman, which type of man do you find yourself drawn to and why?

As a man, would you mind sharing your experiences associated with any of these archetypes?

Share your thoughts in the comments below; I look forward to reading your perspectives.

Magnoliaa:


Now why you mentioned in this, I don't know, but if you want me to take you seriously, let me see an equivalent of your response directed to men at various times when they talk down on Nigerian women.


When you've done so, we may have a conversation.

Oh and here is a reference link just to prove my earlier response.

https://www.nairaland.com/6318546/men-better

Magnoliaa:


Now why you mentioned in this, I don't know, but if you want me to take you seriously, let me see an equivalent of your response directed to men at various times when they talk down on Nigerian women.


When you've done so, we may have a conversation.

I have been on this platform for years just as you with several monikers just like this one and veritably I don't contribute much unless there is a reason. I only observe in the background and don't converse much but when I do generate a response or topic here, it's with good purpose nothing more or less. Going through my profile or assuming you get me based on my activity here will only give you the wrong notions about me.

And to be honest, I didn't even know you weren't the one who created the post until I checked throughly. May sound uncomfortable but I examined your profile topics along with some others here and eventually arrived at this link from my browser, thus mistyping you for her in the mention.

Moreover, I'm quite bored at the moment and decided to try create impressions here just to see if anyone can stimulate me via a conversation as I hardly come across someone interesting enough to match my energy in deep conversations.

Based on your kind of topics and replies here, I perceived and theorized you are one who crave deeper interactions and have a curious mind hence after noticing my error mentioning you, decided to leave it that way to see where it goes.

There is no ego, arrogance or delusion behind this message so don't make false assumptions.

Laatly concerning addressing the issue of men who are morally deficient and lack the core principles of a quality man, i did that sometime ago through my other moniker but now I'm older and more evolved.

There is no point trying to persuade others whose personality by default goes against your message as people don't really change and you can't change anyone. Time is precious and I wouldn't want to waste it on something that is so trivial to my existence and goals. My energy is solely focused on myself and those around me who I can connect to physically.

You might be more sensitive and aware to issues like that and try to help those around you improve. You might have goals to better the society and help others develop but honestly I don't have the time to focus on such matters that are of little importance to me as I'm my utmost priority. Let those guys remain as they are, the society is defined by the people in it and can rarely be changed through online motivation.

@ Magnoliaa and Persephone1

I agree with you, a lot of men embody the rigid traits of society's flawed definition of the ideal man. They can be quite inflexible, robotic and even not really self aware but I know you know you have to approach this topic in an open minded way. Although, I can sense you just want to create an emotional relieve for yourself through this post or perhaps try enlighten those who are here.

Quality men aren't always obvious and aren't known for jumping into relationships when the woman in question doesn't possess their core qualities or align with their principles.

Your may be looking for a potential partner who embodies true quality, someone who is similar to you or rather put, someone who complements you and can resonate with you on a deeper level but such man is rare and even if they are standing beside you, they tend to analyze if you're compatible or not and if you aren't, they won't reveal, approach or engage you in a relationship.

Though you might not really accept, they are here in Nigeria but embody a nature which is hidden until they get comfortable with you in their inner circle.

Promisebello:


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro you are right
But they are still people that are enjoying in this high cost of living

HI, how do you get your customers?

OliviaThomas:
These are very helpful tips. I myself was looking for an electrician near me not so long ago to solve some of my problems and update the electrical panel in the house. There are many jobs that should only be done by a professional, for your own safety.

Where do you base? Are you in Lagos?

chatinent:
I feel her pain.

Religion today is not helping matters. It, in fact, will make you poorer. And when you get poor, you will start noticing the unfair treatment you'll be given in the same religion because you are poor.

To me, religion is business.

Good evening Bro Chatinent, If you can see this, please help out.

My name is Michael. I am aware we don`t really know each other physically or on this forum but please I do need help and will be thankful if you can support me at the moment.

I am 22, studying with a part-time job and possess a good skill but circumstance made me utterly broke at the moment till the extent I can't purchase food items to eat tomorrow or the next 3 days and those at home aren`t helping matters at all. I will only be receiving money on the 14th from side jobs.

If you find it in your heart Bro Chatinent, please assist me financially for these 4 days.

I`ll be grateful to you concerning this.

Please.

virginprincess:
,you with this virgin stuff.

I expect you to be happy with the post.

Jennyclay:
Lies! Lies! Lies!
I pity the ones who would believe this cooked story.

You're right for observing.

1Sharon:


Well you know you're ruining your chances of your daughter finding a spouse if she's too educated.

I'f you're saying not being educated kepps you far behind. You don't want it in a spouse?

Do you feel a woman highly educated is good or not?

She might be good in terms of commerce but less likely in terms of marriage especially if the man is deficient somewhere or somehow.

We both know this, most educated women are more chaotic in their marriages than the other. They hardly appreciate their husbands cause they are always noticing and dwelling on his lapses everytime. You might say otherwise but this has been a pattern in most marriages and patterns never lie.

You tell me, Why would a man want to invite chaos into his life with his own hands? Is the woman worth the trouble after all?

1Sharon:


Would you want your daughter to be less educated?

Most likely. An education to the senior level and a profitable skill/trade will be a good decision the way I see it. Wouldn't want to be a willing party to her marital chaos.

You might not understand what I'm insinuating but you needn't bother yourself to.

1Sharon:


Well you know you're ruining your chances of your daughter finding a spouse if she's too educated.

I'f you're saying not being educated kepps you far behind. You don't want it in a spouse?

Do you feel a woman highly educated is good or not?

For others maybe yes but for marriage stability and longi
etivity, I personally would prefer a less educated lady. No offense.

1Sharon:
I've seen some men state they do not want to marry highly educated women because they feel she'll butt heads with them and be too opinionated. So instead they feel lowly educated women make better spouses and opt for them instead.

Now when these men have daughters, they wouldn't want her to have little to no academic education, they'd want her to make the most she can of herself. They might even call her lazy or unambitious if she decides not to pursue further or higher education.

Now these type of men are encouraging and moulding their own daughters to be the kind of women they would have never picked for a spouse.

So is this hypocrisy or nature?

For men like this, if women that are highly educated are a turn-off and have already priced themselves out of the market:

Why do you encourage your own daughters to be exactly like them?

There could be a lot of reasons for that but a major one is that the life of an average lady is very complicated and bleeped up. Remember it is a man's world.

We want to have our peace of mind thus our marriage with less educated women. We also wouldn't like our daughters to be far behind at this time of the world that we are. With the way things are tough now, it wouldn't be a good idea to raise a daughter who isn't capable of at least fending for herself. Thus, we empower our daughters.

Hypocritical you say?

We humans, male or female are all hypocritical in one way or another. Your feelings can't change this dear. If you want people to act according to your thoughts, feelings or imagination, you're living in a fool's paradise.

Shocking

Sunnyshinylight:
Shame to you for ever,

What's in sex that has eaten you up so deep, why did you allow such feeling take over your entire life to an extent you begin to masturbate.

The question is what's special about sex

Shame on you also. Don`t you know that it is also called masturbation when you, your boyfriend/husband stimulate your organs with yours or their hands during sexual intercourse?

I have always known eros love never was like agape love. It is selfish and possesive in nature.

Reason why I never dated nor been heartbroken before.

Love emotion isn`t enough in relationships, understanding is everything - the actual reason our fore-fathers had better marriages than us.

HopeNeverDies:
Damnnnn!!!! *You Live MUCH more Longer*


I noticed most single men tends to live much longer unlike their married Counterparts.

Not true.

luminouz:


Alaye, who send you all this talk bayi?? Why all the shalaye?

We never quote f monikers here. It's our RULE!!!

I hissed when I read your comment.

Iyaebe:
let me whisper this to you:my boyfriend is a hard core redpiller but loves me silly,we avoid each other like a plague on this forum

Words are always cheap, actions aren`t. I don`t need to know anything about your boyfriend nor you.

Just be very careful of what you read on the internet. There is sorrow in knowing some things.

Iyaebe:
See how this place is scanty,evidence that most redpillers don’t live a responsible life.Most of them are in clubs and various joints

Continual visiting of this thread and absorbing its messages might mess your mind up being a lady who is going to be under a man.

You would have a brain full with knowledge which may make you resent your spouse`s leadership and be stuck vehemently trying to make him improve.

The account is valid but you still have to authenticate it at the bank to enable full usage.

doggedfighter:


We're very inquisitive as a people.
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add insentitive to it.

BoredBerry:
Millions of women have...
Men can too

What do you mean millions?