It's evident you're not in tune with your own understanding.

Now, you have changed mouth.

Typical Muslim.

This was your initial statement "A person becomes a Muslim by saying: “Ash-hadu an lā ilāha illallāh, wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan ‘abduhu wa rasooluhu” which means: “I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except Allāh, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger.”

This statement should be TRUE for all ages, but in other to defend the indefensible you created more problem below.

Anaybira:

The one who believe and work with the six articles of faith is a Muslim.

PROVIVE WHERE ABRAHAM, MOSES, AND NOAH fulfilled these SIX ARTICLE OF FAITH.

Reason why the disciples of Jesus (peace be upon him) called themselves Muslims

They never called themselves Muslim and they will never because they are with Jesus in heaven now.

What is their message?
1. They preached Jesus crucified and death
2. They preached Jesus the Son of God
3. They preached Jesus as Eternal God
4. They preached Jesus come from the Father. Remember, Islam Allah is not a Father.
5. They preached salvation ONLY IN JESUS NAME!

So they can never be a Muslim unless if you will agree with me that you as a Muslim also preach all these.

was because they had belief in the massage of Jesus (peace be upon him) which obliged them to also believe in the past prophets he affirmed there their prophethood to them, this is the same for the people of Moses, Abraham back to Nuah (peace be upon them).

Not true, Jesus only TOLD his Disciples that:

1. He is greater than ALL THE PROPHETS
2. In fact, Jesus told the crowd that He Existed even before Abraham
3. All prophets including Moses wrote about Him.

So, definitely the disciples of Jesus who walked this earth over 2000 years ago must be different from the one your Muhammad introduced through Islam.

Thus, during the time of Jesus (peace be upon him) if one was to be a Muslim he would have to BELIEVE IN HIM but the messenger of our time is Muhammad (peace be upon him) and the one who disbelief in his message i.e. Islamic monotheism is one of the disbelievers.

Look at the two @underlined phrases, you will notice you carefully used two choice of words

1. BELIEVE IN HIM
2. BELIEVE in his message

This is where your salvation lies Muhammad mission is to make you believe in the MESSAGE he brought while Jesus mission is to MAKE YOU BELIEVE IN HIS PERSON.

Also, no prophet ever preached a message of PERSONAL BELIEVE only Jesus did that and I'm glad you could understand that just that the veil of Islam is still preventing you to acxept it.

In summary, the prophet [of] our time through revelation commands us to say and work by the statement you are having problem with in order to become a believer.

Qur'an 5-111

I didn't have problem with it just that it doesn't make sense which you yourself understand reason why you have to come through another means to redefine HOW TO BECOME A MUSLIMS.

So, my point is ABRAHAM, Moses not to even talk about Jesus the Creator of ALL THINGS can't be a Muslim by "...WITNESS THAT Muhammad is a prophet" just as simple as that.

Godfullsam:
It looks like brain don't want to carry this programming stuff.

May be because I am self learning, or wrong approach or I have not been able to lay hands on the right material.

Hope you're able to catch up by now?

I know you didn't think through this your copy and paste.

Anaybira:
How to become a Muslim
A person becomes a Muslim by saying: “Ash-hadu an lā ilāha illallāh, wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan ‘abduhu wa rasooluhu” which means: “I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except Allāh, and I bear witness that Muhammad is His servant and Messenger.”

If this is how to become a Muslim, how come Abraham, Moses and all those who are before Muhammad are Muslims, since they never "...witness that Muhammad is His servant and messenger"?

MaxInDHouse:


Still begging!

SHow where I beg in that post

Here is my point in case you forgot to put on your glass the other time

So you can't say boldly with your full chest that Yes! I MaxInDHouse, I'm not a Christian

Just as any True Christian can boldly say: Yes I'm not a Jehovah witness

Then what is the different between Christian and Jehovah witness according to the title of this thread?

MaxInDHouse:
OK i will stop quoting you that should settle the matter!

You will quote people even when they don't know you're existing, then you'll turn around to accuse them of following you bumper to bumper just to massage your ego.

Only you will say you will stop doing this and that on Nairaland and later turn around to swallow your vomit when no law in place forbidden people not quote each other in the first.

Your case is very pathetic!

MaxInDHouse:

Jesus said his real disciples are the light of the world {Matthew 5:14-16} so you can't hide it no more out of thousands of different religions claiming they're Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines you came out openly that you're really taking whatever JWs says seriously.
Hmmmmmmmmmm, glory be to the true God!

So you can't say boldly with your full chest that Yes! I MaxInDHouse, I'm not a Christian

Just as any True Christian can boldly: Yes I'm not a Jehovah witness?

Then what is the different between Christian and Jehovah witness according to the title of this thread?

MaxInDHouse:
So if you're sure that you've figured it out on your own why do you still bother yourself?

SO that it will be documented that you said it on Nairaland one day that You're not A CHRISTIAN

So conclude the thread by answer the question on the title Christian and Jehovah Witness, what is the difference?

Don't be afraid your CO won't see it

MaxInDHouse:
Do you desperately need the answer?

That should have happened in the OP but you're too dull to understand that.

The title didn't ask for people's opinion but a CONLCUDED topic.

So, the thread lacks this and you know the reason you can't do that. Hypocrisy!

You want to proof there's a difference between Christian and Jehovah witness as Jehovah witness is the ONLY name for God's follower today, and at the same time You can't boldly say Yes! I'M NOT A CHRISTIAN

MaxInDHouse:


Spiritually hungry but arrogance won't allow you to admit!

Christian and Jehovah Witness, what is the difference?

This is the title of thread, so what is the difference?

MaxInDHouse:
But why aren't you contented with what your own god has for you?
Why disturbing a JW whose God you despised?

Perhaps you should know what our God said about people like you.

He promised that there will be spiritual famine globally and it will affect all false religions:

‘Look! The days are coming,’ declares the Sovereign Lord Jehovah, ‘When I will send a famine into the land, Not a famine for bread or a thirst for water, But for hearing the words of Jehovah' Amos 8:11

So He said about false religionists like you:

“Look! My servants will eat, but you will go hungry" Isaiah 65:13

Perhaps that's why you're not contented with whatever your pastors are feeding you as word of your god!

Using style to change the POV, it won't work

Here is the main issue!

So, dont forget, the title of of the thread is: Christian and Jehovah Witness what is the difference?

Are they same or there's any difference between them?

MaxInDHouse:


And just as Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes also said Jesus has a demon but they can't just help it rather they keep following him everywhere he goes or wherever his disciples could be found asking questions!

The gods of Jehovah witness is of this world.

Our God and Savior The Lord Jesus you quoted His statement in Matt 7:7 also said "ask and it shall be given..."

So, dont forget, the title of of the thread is: Christian and Jehovah Witness what is the difference?

Are they same or there's any difference between them?

MaxInDHouse:

Have faith in the God of Jehovah's Witnesses and keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

The gods of Jehovah witness is of this world.

Our God and Savior The Lord Jesus you quoted His statement in Matt 7:7 also said "ask and it shall be given..."

So, dont forget, the title of of the thread is: Christian and Jehovah Witness what is the difference?
Are they same or there's any difference between them?

MaxInDHouse:

Always on my thread!

Dont forget, the title of of the thread is: Christian and Jehovah Witness what is the difference?
Are they same or there's any difference between them?

MaxInDHouse:

Always on my thread!

So is there a rule that says someone can't comment on a THREAD CREATED ON A PUBLIC FORUM?

Next time create the thread and leave it permanently on your phone or Laptop or Desktop but the moment you post it on Nairaland which is a PUBLIC FORUM you don't have any rule unless the creator of Nairaland says otherwise.

Back to the topic: What is the different between Christian and Jehovah witness according to your own thread?

Dont forget, the title of of the thread is: Christian and Jehovah Witness what is the difference?

Are they same or there's any difference between them?

MaxInDHouse:


Are you sure or you're just deceiving yourself?

Because if any sane individual knows that there is nothing to gain from something he or she will not continue to visit the place as you're now doing always following me bumper to bumper just as Pharisees, Sadducees and Scribes were following Jesus and his disciples everywhere they go;

100%

If I'm following you, it will be placed on your profile provide the screenshot that shows I'm following you.

Reason why jws gods are of this world is the lying liar attitude because Devil is the father of lies.

Back to the topic:

What is the different between Christian and Jehovah witness according to your own thread OR does your thread have no conclusion?

MaxInDHouse:

Have faith in the God of JWs and keep on asking us what you don't know! Matthew 7:7

The gods of jws are of this world, so I can't have faith in them.

I have faith in the True God who came to earth to redeem mankind, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The great Yahweh
The Holy one of Isreal
The I Am that I Am
The Saviour of the world
The Almighty One.
The Holy Trinity
The God who has judged C.T Russell through His Son Jesus.

Now, back to the topic what is the different between Christian and Jehovah witness?

Or you created a thread without reason?

MaxInDHouse:


To the highlighted keep on asking! Matthew 7:7

And I must get the answer!

What is the different between Christian and Jehovah Witness according to your own thread?

Janosky:
The name "Christian" was invented by pagans of Antioch to make jest of Jehovah's servants in the era of the apostles .

To the pagans, that label "Christian" was nothing to be proud of.

Your 3 deities mentors are very much aware of this fact.
The evidence in the screenshots

Emusan,Just come back here and continue WAILING and throw your tantrums upandan

Everyone knows how the name CHRISTIAN came to be and if you go with the interpretation of your 3 deities mentors congratulations!

But here is what your organization says about the name and it's origin.

Who will you go with now:

Your 3 deities mentors or Watchtower?

Reason why Watchtower can made the bold claim Yes! We're Christian

Your receipts are below!

MaxInDHouse:


Try to spice up your message to make it attractive to others not just following me up and down the forum.
Thanks!

I'm doing just that and God have been adding to His church even more than you can do in 10 years.

I don't create thread to ATTRACT people, that's what you doing here looking for human praises.

What is the conclusion of your thread?

You can't dodge this question!

MaxInDHouse:


OK, noted, thanks!

Good!

You're welcome.

MaxInDHouse:


Must you comment on my thread? Act 13:45, 50; 14:2, 19; 17:3

Why not start a thread to preach your own god?

So for you to tell people conclusion of your own thread is hard for you.

Meanwhile, are you setting the rule on Nairaland?

Well, you can't do that because it's not your hall even in your hall you don't have that power as you have to lobby.

I've created many threads to preach my God the Father of the Universe who came to earth as human to reedem mankind.

You can check my profile for that!

MaxInDHouse:
OK continue with your TRUTH!

You don't need to tell. don't forget I do remind you that always.

The truth still remains that 1914 is a fraudulent year and not from God.

Besides, do you recall at the beginning of this thread. Your only evidence was a video of an Apostate you provided to support your claim?

Well, you can go back for fresh memory!

MaxInDHouse:

It's meant for those who will benefit from it not for everyone! 2Thessalonians 3:2

What is the different between Christian and Jehovah Witness according to your own thread?

Or you want people to help you draw the conclusion?

MaxInDHouse:


It's evident that you people with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines trailing JWs up and down this forum are the descendants of Pharisees and Sadducees.

In the scriptures the disciples of Christ were going about preaching and teaching what they know just as Jehovah's Witnesses but unbelieving Jews through the area keep following them claiming they want to expose the lies Jesus' disciples are spreading about the Messiah (Christ) which the Jews don't believe has anything to do with Jesus of Nazareth. Act 13:45; 14:2, 19; 17:5

You and your fellow misinformed Churchians who has not agreed on how to worship your gods as one family but contradicting yourselves will always follow JWs up and down claiming they are lying but you can't present any of your churches that's preaching undiluted truth. Act 23:8

So we fully understand what is going on now!

Still perambulating around like kangaroo

What is the different between Christian and Jehovah Witness according to your own Title Or you just use that heading for nothing sake?

At least you mentioned that a Christian can still revert back while a Jehovah Witness can't.

So, what is your conclusion?

Bone don hook dog for throat

MaxInDHouse:

OK continue your journey Jesus began reigning in heaven in the year 1914, whether you agree or not is none of our business!

Still no proof.

Your lies can never and will never truth no matter many times you repeat it.

MaxInDHouse:
To help my followers like you

I know it's a great and ever joyful for you that you have a follower like me.

I know this thread is as result of my question, do I need to be a Jehovah Witness before I can be a believer in Christ?

Yet you couldn't address the question nor even give clear answer to your own thread.

realize that God's people as a whole has been called by different GROUP names in the past

That is why you created a thread with a Title: Christian and Jehovah Witness, is there any different?

Yet you couldn't boldly mention their differences.

Well from this statement of yours

So just as some worshipers of God in ancient times turned their backs on pure worship a Christian too may turn back from following the Way of holiness {Isaiah 35:8} but a Witness of Jehovah will never ever turn back no matter what happens! John 6:68; Romans 8:37-39

The conclusion is

So, a Christian can't be called JEHOVAH WITNESS since he/she can turn back.

and while some are timid and fearful there are the diehard ones who are ever ready to stand out as different amongst the thousands these are the ones Jehovah kept that GROUP name for.

So in a nutshell, a Christian is different from a Jehovah Witness.

You are my Witnesses (plural) and my servant (singular) whom i have chosen.
Jesus is the CHOSEN or ANOINTED one among us himself and all other diehard worshipers of our God are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Lying liar!

So it's SERVANT the scripture says but you first change it to SERVANTS.

Keep lying for your gods and father the Devil.

MaxInDHouse:

No wahala if that's your wish !

If it's a wish it would have been my idea but it's not from God and it's from the Devil.

1914 remains false and not from God.

If not provide the proof from God's word.

MaxInDHouse:
"you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:32

Before the whole world was in spiritual darkness and the religionists claiming they are Christians were misrepresenting Christ but the truth about Christianity began to be unveiled in the year 1914!

And the truth is, 1914 will forever be false and unscriptural.

MaxInDHouse:


Now you can see that the argument is strong and irrefutable.

To believe in Jesus today is believing in what he said about how to identify his disciples in our generation because neither Jesus of Nazareth nor his first century disciples are here now and there are thousands of different religions all claiming they are Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
So if you accept all of them as Christian without figuring out how to distinguish the real disciples through their activities then you don't believe in Jesus!

No matter how you spin it, your lies and manipulation will never become TRUTH.

This statement will forever be false: "To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples"

You hate the truth and pride in your lies and manipulations, so keep it up!

Yet you couldn't tell the different!

So, what is the different between Jehovah Witness and Christian?

MaxInDHouse:
CHRISTIANS/JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
What is the difference?
JEHOVAH called all His faithful servants His WITNESSES:
“You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. Isaiah 43:10[/b]

If you're not a manipulator, you can see that this verse boldly written MY SERVANT(singular) but you decided to change it to MY SERVANTS (plural)

So just as some worshipers of God in ancient times turned their backs on pure worship a Christian too may turn back from following the Way of holiness {Isaiah 35:8} but a Witness of Jehovah will never ever turn back no matter what happens! John 6:68; Romans 8:37-39

So, a Christian can't be called JEHOVAH WITNESS since he/she can turn back.

But don't forget your previous lies against the same NAME CHRISTIAN

Your claims are:
1. The name CHRISTIAN is CURSED AND BASTARDIZED.
2. Because of this, your gods have given you people a NEW NAME - Jehovah Witness
3. Watchtower by extension Jehovah Witness have left the name CHRISTIAN for the Christendom because it was CURSED AND BASTARDIZED
4. Therefore, "whosoever thinks he belongs to Christ under the CURSED AND BASTARDISED OLD GROUP name - which is the name CHRISTIAN should think twice" - according to you.

So, what is the essence of this thread?

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ you can't eat your cake and still have it.

The book has what is called "the four Gospel accounts" written by Jesus' disciples about his life and ministry and another called "Act of Apostles" then letters written by apostles and disciples all BORN AGAIN Christians so if you think it's not necessary to consider what Jesus said about his disciples to identify those practicing what he taught in your own generation then any religion can just pick one part either in the gospel accounts, Act of Apostles, letters or Revelations and start their own religion all in the name of Christ.
That's why there is contradictions everywhere and all of you are confused as to who is who yet you just pick the popular opinion.

Check the screenshots and see how confused those claiming Christians when you people feel like it's unnecessary figuring out what Jesus said about his group in your generation!

No matter how you spin it, your lies and manipulation will never become TRUTH.

This statement will forever be false: "To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples"

You hate the truth and pride in your lies and manipulations, so keep it up!

MaxInDHouse:


So they are BELIEVERS already it's another thing entirely that a Christian is bringing to them whether scriptural or not they already believe in the scriptures.


That's why majority of the people back then disagree with Jesus and his disciples because they are believers already in the scriptures it's the fulfillment of what's written in the scriptures that's confusing them as they can't wrap it all up that Jesus of Nazareth is the foretold or promised Messiah (Christ) so that's why it was difficult for them to accept Jesus.



Now we're reaching the same conclusion just as we are explaining everything WRITTEN ABOUT Jesus' group in the final part of the days and only few believe what we are showing them which solidified their faith that they have found Jesus' group.



But the first century Jews were BELIEVERS in the scriptures yet they rejected Jesus of Nazareth with all the things written about him in the scriptures.
So are they no longer believers as you've said formerly?



To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples in your own time so as to IDENTIFY them with all the things he foretold about them. If you ignore all the things Jesus said about his future disciples how can you prove that you believe in his foresight to predict what you should be doing in your own time?



The question is simple if you must be a believer in Christ Jesus whom we can't see today but agreed that he once walked this planet then you must believe all what he said regarding his future disciples and how to identify them in the midst of thousands of religions all claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! Matthew 7:16-18 compare to Matthew 7:24-27

The @color is enough to see your obvious twisting and manipulation.

Well, like I do tell you, you can twist and manipulate God's words from now till you die but one thing is certain, the True God and His word will continue to expose your lies and and manipulation.