chaircover: @enkidu I clicked on the link. . . . .what a story!!!



How did you and your wife sort it all out in the end?

I did my best to mend the fracture, for the sake of my innocent child, but the centre could no longer hold.

We have recently separated and are heading towards Igbosere majistrate court for divorce.

chaircover: @enkidu I clicked on the link. . . . .what a story!!!

I must let you know though, that yinka oke is quite a common name so it may or may not the the same yinka oke.

How did you and your wife sort it all out in the end?

Yes I know. But the facts that this one is young in marriage with two young kids,works for an insurance company in VI, his wife works in Ikeja, and his familiar writing style convinces me that he is the one.

I am sure of it.

@Yinka Oke,

Surprise surprise! So I have found you on Nairaland.
So your family is breaking up.
Nemesis is catching up with you.

@Everyone;
Pls take back all your good advise for this swine.

This maggot forgot to tell you about the other side of the story. He is hopeless womaniser who even seduces other peoples's wives and destroys other people's homes.
He has destroyed mine.

I refer all of you to my post last year.
https://www.nairaland.com/705239/neighbor-seduced-wife-now-im

As for you, Yinka Oke, Revenge is a Dish Best Served Cold.

You still have my sword of democles hanging over your head.
One day,just like a thief in the night, it will fall on you.

All these poster are acting like they are all brain dead. Wake up. A bank doesn't just wake up and decide to close an account on the basis of Nationality. Nonesense. That seems to be redeemed's explanation to hoodwink u braindead simpletons, and is certainly cannot be the bank's reason. Obviously, there probably has been money laundering or serious fraudulent transactions involved. They bank just got fed up with various rackets. But should that surprise anyone? Daa!
These people feed fat on sweat and blood of the poor. They are seriously involved in all sorts of money laundering in (lawless)Nigeria. Redeem branches are business franchises and operate just like macdonald or any other franchise.They take money from the poor under false religious pretence and then loan the same money to businessmen or their relatives and business fronts to finance LPO's and other businesses and projects at high interest. This is their racket. If U dont know it, then now u know wat they do with ur tithe money. No , they do not remit it to god. This high crime is called SIMONY and bible and the entire christendom condemn it. I hv personally encountered them so I know wat am talking abt.

Hah ha ha. bakare is a businessman into real estate. Listen to yourself. They are all businessmen. The business of dupping poor people of their money is a very serious and compettive business. When did he become a real estae mogul, before becoming a pastor or after becoming a pastor? How many estates has he built for the poor members of his flock? A school perhaps? a hospital or clinic? a vocational training center for unemployed youth?

Well, the subject of this discussion is abt this so called man of fraud, sorry, man of god.Slip of tongue. The two phrase seem to flow into each other.lol.
This guy and his ilk feed so fat on the blood and sweat of innocents that  they now confer ingelligence on themselves because they are able to dupe so many. Intelligent they may be, but they are still men of fraud. Their egos are so inflated that they actually think they can contribute anything meaningful to the growth the nation. Wat a sad irony.
Bakare has shown himself to be a selfish sore loser. I pity those who think they can learn anything from this guy.

And what is Bakare's source of income and how much taxes did he pay last year?

Yet most of the few effective malaria drugs we use in Nigeria today, come from the research labs of India and China: predominantly Hindu and Buddist nations. Has anyone taken notice? Our minds are polluted with soooooo much garbage.

Birds of the same feather flock together.Sounds like another parasite. I wonder why no prophet, Bakare and co, never ever recieve any ministrations from the lord abt a cure for simple malaria, a disease that kills millions of Nigerian infants every year.

Its so good to know that a few bright people are taking the reigns of power. Finally,everyone's eyes are openning after 44yrs. I'm so glad Ojukwu is still alive to see himslef vindicated after being maligned for so long. many said it was his personal ambition that led to the civil war. Since then, very few have been bold enough to call a spade a spade. We have come full circle to face the same set of problems and issues. Nigerians hv not only been bending backwards to accomodate the parasitic tendencies of northern political and religious elites, but we hv become permantly crippled and prostrate . Now, the regions hv to band together just like in the past and develope their regions for the benefit of their people. We cannot wait forever for the north to catch up when they are not even interested in the race. But they still want us not to move ahead.
enough is enough

YES, Nigeria needs single minded leaders who are accountable to the people they serve. We don't need bakare to tell us that. Who is Bakare accountable to? Certainly not the tens of thousands of worshippers who give him money everyweek. No. There are far many too instances instances where has has taxed and collected tens of millions of naira from his followers without acounting for a penny. That is how he and his likes make their own living.They are the dupes and parasites of our society. I can understand his arrogance and sense of self importance.
If u doubt that Bakare does not know wat accountability means, then simply go to His Church, Latter Rain Assemply and ask for their monthly, quarterly and yearly financial statements.

Bakare is a self -centered idiot. Because he lost an election, the country should fall to pieces? Because Nigerians rejected him and his Boko haram boss, we should be punished ? I'm even surpised that this guy can still speak in public. He has not spoken against the Boko Haram manace in the land when christians are being targeted and killed.He predicted and threatened a WILD WILD NORTH if he did not win. Are we not witnessing his wild wild north today? Should he not be among those being questioned by security agents? Nigerians deserve the kind of leaders(??)(more like pretenders) they get.This guy and the many others like him who FEED FAT on the sweat and blood of the poor, derive their wealth , power and arrogance from from the millions of m.orons who willingly give him money everyday in the name of religion. He  knows that ur all unthinking fools. So why wouldn't he insult u all every once in while with his so-called predictions.

Now whether the seeker actually gets very rich or very powerful thereafter is something that only those who are in it can truly attest to. It is subjective. luck or furtune might come his way in the course of his life and it mght even be attributed to his spirtual affiliation. One thing for sure is that the deamon will set many traps along the way for him to fall into so that he keeps coming back for more and keep commiting more atrocities.

Sooner or later he becomes paranoid and terrified of the possibility of his own death, knowing wat awaits him at the other end. To prolong his life, he is further tricked into commiting more and more atrocities and rituals. Ritualist are addicted to blood. They live in constant fear, seldom happy and rarely ever enjoy their so called wealth. most end up with mental problems and madness. Some of them seek to break their covenant by giving to charity or going to church. Sorry, tough luck. The concept of forgiveness is often misunderstood and therefore overated. Its not that simple. Karma is the order of the spiritual universe. Their wealth usually fall apart after their deaths.

The daemon, on the other hand, just sits and laughs at the folly and foolishness of the human mind, knowing that even a lifetime of wealth and power for an average human ,is only a very small time in his own grand scheme. At the end, the daemon always wins and the human always loses. Its like someone asking permision to rob a bank and kill people so that he can just spend 24hrs to enjoy his loot and power and thereafter, he hands himself over to the law to serve 24yrs in Kirikiri for his 24hr orgy.
STUPID.

Ignorance is the real devil.
Cocluded.

continued from above:

Souls either ascend to a higher level of existence or descent to a lower level. So these daemons are souls(condemned) trapped at a lower level than we are. They are like hardened criminals locked up indefitely at kirikiri maximum prison. They are tormented, angry and eager to get out and unleased mayhem to any unsuspecting person who ignorantly lets them out. They need servants or slaves in their domain so their whole game is to pull in as many humans as possible to their level to serve them as slaves.
Having already entrapped him through blood covenant, the native doctor becomes their middleman or agent in this trade.

So this is hw it works. A lazy, gready, ignorant man goes to the native doctor to say that he wants to be very rich and powerful. The native doctor says "no problem, everything is possible if u can just perform some simple rituals". The first ritual is always the blood covenant or oat. The fool easily agrees, not knowing that it is actually a spiritual contract that will bind him forever to this daemon. Being so eager to get it over with, he never asks for the full explaination of the real terms of the contract. They native doctor will not read him the fine print because he has his own interest or commision in the contract. The covenant is usually like this: The daemon will serve u for the rest of your life and thereafter, you will serve him. He will assist you (not grant u anything) in your life as long as u follow his simple rules. Once you swear by blood to this, u are finished. U are hooked.
Remember, the daemons only motive is to ensure that u end up where he is to serve him for the rest of his life. In order to do that he has trick u into soiling ur soul. Murder ensures that. So he gets u to take part in the murder of an innocent person by demanding this or that body for one ritual or another.

To be continued

This is an interesting topic that i would like to offer my own piece. Its easy for any logical mind to question this ritual money myth. The last poster captured the essence of this belief: Meaning, this is exactly what those who engage in this practice really believe. Now, whether this is how its works all the time is something none of us can understand. But I'm going to take u deeper into the subject so that you may hv better idea of what is really going on.
Men seeking power or fortunes from occult powers goes back all to way to the beginning of time. Africans are actually late commers to this practice. Most other cultures have long abandoned this idea for two main reasons: first , they realised that daemons (spirits or entities)cannot be trusted in any way. Secondly, the age of enlightenment reshaped our thinking and made the role of these entities more and more redundant and irrelevant in running our human affairs.
However, in Africa, real enlightenment has been too slow to penetrate our deep primitive intincts and therefore, we are still more intimately connected to these, entities or spirits or daemons.
These spirits exist on a lower spiritual plane that humans. They have no access to this world until WE open the door for them(through blood oats or convenants). They hv no real power over us until WE give or confer them with such powers(through ritual). These daemons have incredible life spans compared to humans. Their lives span tens of thousands of years,therefore they are very patient when it comes to dealing with and manpulating humans, whose with life spans are less than 100 yrs.


To be continued

The sexual urge is the strongest of all our natural urges. In other words, men are like animals and its only the power of reason that differentiate us from animals. Psychologist all agree that all or our activilities and proclivites are, at the most basic level, driven by the our sexual instincts or urge. we think with our d, ks. A man can bleep as many women as he can conquer without any having any residual feelings. A man can have affairs and still be a sweet, loving and committed husband or mate.(I'm not condoning it).
However, its a different story with women. Women are the stronger sex and so when a woman strays, the house falls. women cheat with their mind and their hearts, so when she takes her mind and her heart from her mate and gives it to another, the center cannot hold. women cheat to spite and disrepect their husbands and not for shear pleasure.
Thats why when a man discovers that his wife is cheating, he knows the relationship is long over and cannot be rapaired.He cannot forgive.

Hey poster. I'm in a similar or even worse situation than you are. Read my post and see for yourself. One thing I can tell you, once a woman begins to lie and decieve, then its as bad or worse than you think. When you trust someone with all ur beart, it take a long while fro certain realities to dawn on you. even if she has not slept with this guy while ur away, she certainly has the inclination to do so if and when the oppurtunity presents itsef. Men cheat with their d, cks, women cheat with their heart and mind, making their infidelity more difficult to forgive and forget. Once a woman switches her mind and heart from her husband, the marriage is just a joke until whenever the man realises it. i found out abt my mife's infidelity from text and email msges she forgot to delete going back two yrs. Can you imagine? She swears that she had no physical contac with the person and was only flirting by email and texts. Tell that to the birds. But even if true, its still the same. mental adultery and physical adultery is still same,
Good luck with your Kids.

To 2mch: Thank you or ur response. U made a lot of good points but u called me Dummy, stupid, childish, mumu etc. I really wonder wat i did to earn these derogs. I hv not harmed anyone. So Is ist for being a victim, is it for holding a grudge or is it for sharing my thoughts with this forum?
You also said its my ego and pride thats making me hold a grudge. I prefer to call them Honour.Well, wat is wrong with ego and pride? If you dont have any ego or pride or honour worth defending, then I feel very sorry for u. But I know u do. You are just being a bit disengenous.
renowned physcologist Simud Freud postulated a long time age that the EGO(specifically the sexual urge) is the driving force for nearly allof mankind's activities, accomplishments as well as conficts. Empires, geagraphical, polical and economic are built and destroyed on account of the ego and pride. Wars are fought, nations are annexed, AMALGAMATED, occupied and exploited on account of the ego. Take away everyone's pride and ego and wat would u hv left? all our of mankind's accomplishment dissapear and we'r all back to the animal kingdom.
Every day I see at least one or more fist fights on the streets of lagos. In the streets of any US city, people are shot everyday.People are obviously angry and fighting for something. HHmmm.Could it be pride and ego?
Wat is your moral threshold? would u consider killing someone if they swindled you of lets say N1m? How abt N5m ,N10m, N20m, N50m or N100m?
Wat if someone violated u or ur child, would u kill for that? If u can , then u are all of the above names that u called me.
My family is the most important and precious thing in my world, beyond money or any other consideration. My moral threshold has been breached, therefore I feel a moral imperative to render R.I.P, the interloper who has deliberately trespased and violated the sacred precicnts of my matrimonial prize. though am not a moslem, the entire islamic religion support me on this as does the old testament and my tradional culture.

All points of view are welcome and appreciated, but pls no more insults. Thank you.

Thank you, Thank you all for ur advice so far.This is good therapy. However, i want to take issues with some posters and some issues raised.
First, Rannoscky. Thank you for ur input but ur namecalling is irritating and i wonder if that is ur intention. I'm not fluent ghetto talk so I dont know wat nyash burger means . I guess its probably something YOU eat a lot. Its seems to be having terrible effects on ur brain and ur reasoning ability. I'm also guessing that ur one of the "NOT-SO EDUCATED TYPE" or a poster child for the Nigerian educational system. The simple question u hv failed to answer time and time again is: are u married and if YOU are faced with this situation, how would u feel, think and wat would u do? Simple.
As for ur question, am not God and I dont pretend to be, so its quite silly to ask me that question. But the answer is in the Bible(if u hv ever read it). There are countless instances where Yahweh dished out instant justice for transgressions against his will. Infact, parts of the old testament, written by Moses and beleived to have been dictated By God himself, prescribes death for adultery and therefore clearly supports me on this. Our traditional institutions have a permanent stamp of " NO No NO" on this matter of adultery and have stiff penalties. The moslem and Hindu nations all feel the same way. Are u calling them all nyash burgers?
Back to the issue , Mr. Ranoscky. Everyone, especially men, have a moral threshold. Wat is YOUR moral threshold? That is , how far can anyone push u before ur eyes turn red and u go for blood . Wat would u defend with ur life. Wat would someone do to you that YOU must retaliate or avenge?
Let me make a few analogies:1. If you have worked ur whole life to build wealth and just as ur abt to enjoy ur hard work, a smart neighbor cons or swindles u out of everything and then walks abt with pride, Would you contemplate revenge(murder )even for a brief moment or would u just walk away and start a new life?
2. If you, ur spouse or ur child is raped and the rapist rapist is know to you, would forgive and walk away or would u go for his head?
3. Wat abt our political leaders who loot our commonwealth with great impunity, stash them abroad and then oppress all of us with their convoys, sirens and bodygaurds. Hv YOU not ever felt so angry at them that YOU wished that some mad irrational person could round them all up and shoot them without any due process ?
If YOU hv ever felt any of these emotions , even for a brief moment, then YOU ARE A NYASH BURGER yourself, just like me. LOL

the emails show that he was actively persueing her. His is not a random stranger . He knows me very well. Thats why I feel i should "POW POW POW" him.
But thanks for ur advice.

Thanks a million

Thank you.

In wat way am I being childish or silly? I hv not done any harm to anyone. I'm in a discussion forum trying to get people's feelings on a real life drama and on the buring conflicts in my head. The conflict between my rational mind and my primordial animal instincts. Animal insticts that even u have. So dont play that holier than thou attitude with me. We use different parts of our brains to deal with different issues. God made that for a purpose. Ones is overall character is determined by which parts of the brain are dominant. I consider my self a left-brainer( logical and analytical). However, on this particular challange, the instinctive and animal part of my brain is demanding and fighting to take control . That is wat am dealing with. So pls pls no insults and innuendos.

U just got a pass mark. U made some useful comments but why the insults? was that necesary? if a friend came to u for advice would u insult him? Your insults hurt. seem to U miss the purpose of this forum. I dont want to engage u on that level, so i'll move on. U did not say whether u were married and wat u would do if faced with same circumstance. If u are or when u do get married, are u saying u expect ur wife or partner to cheat if you are posted overseas for a few yrs to fend for your family? Please answer these questions for me.

I think its quite silly to ask me if I hv any proof that they were intimate. Very silly. There are some CHICKEN BRAINS in here. What proof do I need? Video recordings? The few email and text messages prove that they were having an affair. Right now, only god knows what they did and wat they did not do. Do I need to hire a lawyer and show proof?. This is not a criminal trial. Besides, the evidence I hv would assure me of an adultery conviction in a sharia court( and we all know the penalty for that). I'm here to help sort out my feelings. This is a real life issue that could happen to anyone. I never ever though that i would be one of the unfortunate few. Wat abt you! Do u think u can ever be in the same or similar situation in the future? I bet ur answer is "NO WAY", right? Thats why ur giving simplistic opinions.
I find it amazing that how people take positions first before analizing issues, like the slowpoke above, asking me if am sure i hv been faithful while away.How dumb can u be , lady? Is that the issue here? Deal with facts that i hv presented and leave the hypotheticals.
This incident happened six months ago. Most people would hv reacted violently and destructively the day after.The fact that I am presenting it to this forum means that I am rational and sane. SO PLS GIVE ME SOME CREDIT. I dont know anyone who has been through this kind of problem. I'm too ashamed to tell my friends and my close relatives cos I know I would lose control of the situation.I would appreciate members of this forum to imagine themselves in this type of situation, offer me their sincere gut feelings and advice. How u would feel and wat u would do is more of wat am interested in hearing.
NB: Pls no insults. If u hv nothing reasonale to say, then just relax and read wat the intelligent people hv to say.

More INPUT PLS.

The family system or structure is the basic pillar or cornerstone of any society or nation both in our traditional and modern times. If we are all willing to fight, kill and and to die to defend our nations, shouldn't we do the same for our family??

Thanks people for all your sincere advice so far. Interestingly, the women posters seem to hv a better grasp of the situation. I'm a bit dissapointed at the men. Now, its so easy to say forgive and do this and do tha,t because ur not one feeling the pain . I hv not dislocsed this to any close freind or family member because i prefered to throw the issue at complete strangers and get their feelings. Specifically, I wanted the men to put themselves in my shoes, imagine that they were the victim, try to feel a tiny bit of the rage inside me and then advise me accordingly.
And for those that asked, yes i was faithfull for the entire period i was away. Hard to believe, eh? I am a rare bread and thats why its soooo painful.
Now, I ask all of u, isn't there something so sacred and so precious that one should be willing to kill or die to defend? If so, is one's family honour not worth killing or dieing for?? My family is in a mess, the future happiness of my child is in jeopardy while this MO/FO is enjoying his own family life and probably thumping his chest. Wouldn't killing him be an act of self defence??. Who amonst you would not kill to defend the lives or the integrity of your family?

I recently came back to nija after a few yrs stint abroad to fend for my family. My heart and dreams are now in pieces after I recently discovered (via undeleted emails and text msgs) that my wife of 13yrs might have been having an affair with my neighbor who is also married with 2 kids. After several denials, she finally confessed that they were just flirting on email and text messages .She swore to everything that they never had any form of physical contact and so nothing else ever happened or could have happened btw them . And Ofcourse, I dont believe her. The tone of the correspondence is very suggestive that they could hve been intimate. I have asked her to leave but after two weeks of crying and begging for forgiveness, I decided to forgive her,only for the sake of our only young child. Its been six months now , but the pain is unbearable.How does a man live with a woman he can no longer trust? Should I send her away and end our marriage or let her stay, but then humiliate her for the rest of her life by keeping other women openly? I used to be a ladies man, so I could easily turn back "ON" my charm and unchain my libido.

The second part of this dilemma is the neighbor in question. Luckily for him, they had moved out shortly b4 i came back, but I know where he works in VI and where he lives. Since he has deliberately ruined my marriage and is enjoying his, I hv concluded in my mind to kill him. Seriously! My vexation is too great against this fellow. I hv considered walking up to him and sticking a big knife in his back or putting one bullet in his balls first and then another one in his head with my glock pistol,or, simply hire thugs to do the dirty work for me. I hve never plotted evil against a fellow human being in my entire life before this. The man has two very young kids. After the initial satisfaction of killing him, I may suffer regret and guilt for eternity.
Is this guy worth tainting my soul for eternity?

Pls everyone, put yourselves in my shoes and offer me real objective advice .