even Chelsea fans have the nerve to laugh at us? Shocking

Anyway, this is a message of encouragement to fellow gunners, we will rise again, take heart, and faint not.

almodjoy,

what is all the selotape you are using to cover your pretty face? 

who are you hiding from, or you think a nairalander will "charm" your picture

Back to Topic,

I live in London, one of the most cosmopolitan cities in the world, great transportation links, fantastic history and very diverse. It has a bit of every thing. Will try to post pictures when I can.

This thread is unnecessary . I thought Manchester United won . why don't you guys spend your energy celebrating your teams success. There is no need to start a "mob attack" and bringing up past comments of Arsenal fans, Loyika, Debosky, Mc Omo etc. Remember those comments were made in "good faith" at the time, and they expected the team to do well. The team has not done as expected and most Arsenal fans have been gracious in defeat. What else do you guys want?

4play,
Liam and his brother would have been better off as Man U fans especially with their foul and uncouth attitude. Well it proved my point that most people born and bred in Manchester are City fans . I have changed from the tearjerker to Queen's song "The show must go on".


All my Arsenal brothers and sisters, let's not give up, we will rise again

Gosh, my eye sockets have taken a battering this past one week 

Have been playing the "tearjacker" number from Oasis all evening called "Stop crying your heart out", how beffiting as Oasis are Muppets United fans

Have run out of excuses for Arsenal but i know things will start getting better, the guys may just start playing now there is nothing to play for. .

This season is so bad as totenham, as useless as they are actually won something, and we will be dusting the cobwebs from our showroom yet again

Gunner for ever.

All you mancs, just keep having fun at our expense . The game at Old Trafford may be irrelevant as Wenger may be looking to next season already. The loss to Chelsea and the string of draws previously was what damaged our title hopes.

Mukina,

Don't mind the German "Shepperd" called Lehman. . He should be one of the first to be shipped out. Personally, one third of the current squad need to be flushed out, get them bikes and wave them goodbye for nothing . And the next time Adebayor does another stupid hairstyle, i will shoot him myself.

PL+C:

A thread like this and other romance threads you see these ladies making a hell of noise. There is a thread like https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-123534.0.html (Algebra Cafe), [b]no single lady contributed there and let them tell me they have not seen the thre[/b]ad.

As for giving any person a chance, you will be making a mistake to come here and look for love. I don't know why some guys are clamouring for chances here when I know that 95% of the ladies here are quite immature and ugly. Go out there and see beautiful chicks coming after you without you saying a word to them and you want some smelling ass girls posting rubbish here.

This is a shallow arguement, and basically a lie. People have their own interests and should follow them. Some guys don't like sports, those that make them less of a man? . Please think before speaking

You claimed that no female contributed in the algebra cafe thread? How many guys do you think contributed out of the whole population of active nairalander? you do the maths. I actually contributed to that topic, and havent gone back yet as it doesnt really catch my fancy. You should have gone to specsavers

4 Play:

@Imani

Shouldn't you be supporting Leyton Orient or Dagenham & Redbridge?

Been supporting the Mancs since '94.Heard you started supporting Arsenal because of Kanu,now that he is gone,you should follow Doyin to Pompey,at least they are going to win a trophy.

Are those not non-league football teams? You are not serious. What am I supposed to do with those teams? Sit on my armchair and eat fish and chips? Though one of the grounds of the above named teams is not too far from me . You have asked why i don't support west ham as my "local" team in a previous post. I don't want high blood pressure throughout the season wondering if we will stay up or go down . Unlike Manchester United, Arsenal is the only club never to be relegated, so are a safe bet that they will still be in the premiership even if Manchester United, unlikely as it sounds do a Leeds . BTW, i hate that profile image of yours, makes me wanna puke

4 Play:

1. As for media collusion in the West,that is frankly nonsense.The media in the West goes out of its way to hold their Govt to account.Headlines are dominated by reams of stories about what is wrong with the country.Can you honestly claim that newspapers in England are seeking not to "fall out with the Govt in power"?

2. There are inherent biases in the media,in the West,its mainly a leftist bias.The main reason why the media rarely touches on Darfur is that very little of what is going on there can be blamed on the US. The emphasis is on Iraq and Palestine,not because these conflicts are the most bloody,but because of US involvement.

3. The worst conflict since the end of WWII was the civil war in DRC Congo(3.7m dead since 1991) but that gets less headlines than Palestine(200,000 dead since 1922).We all know of Haditha,Abu Ghraib or Guantanamo Bay,how many non-Nigerians have ever heard of Odi or Zaki Ibiam where far more people died? There are even a lot of Nigerians that know more about Abu Ghraib than Odi.

4. Ultimately,the West's commendable capacity for self-introspection means that human rights violation by Westerners gets more media attention than similar acts in the developing world.In a situation where anti-Americanism is the modern fashion,any actual or perceived wrongdoing by the US gets blown out of proportion by left-wing media organisations such as Vanity Fair(which has a long history of voodoo journalism).

5. As we speak,tens of thousands of Falun Gong members are in Chinese "re-education" camps where thousands of them have perished for no other reason than having a religion without Govt permission.Does anybody care as long as we can't blame the US?

1. Newspapers in England, No. Don't know about the US though.

2. The media "neglect" of the situation going on in Dafur is similar to that which happened in Rwanda. Yes, there was no western involvement but does is the media silence justified? When i say "west", i don't single out just the US or UK. I know these two powers have different foreign policies, but "cooperate" on most issues.

3. If Nigerians on Nigeria know more about middle east conflict, then it is the problem of our media houses. The NTA is unlikely to air negative reports especially if it has to do with political cover ups. The other time AIT offices were locked up because soon loon in government didn't like what was being broadcast.

4. I am not anti American, but prefer British policies in general to the Americans. Anti American feelings is probably only natural for some considering the fact that America, as a super power and the most powerful country in the world, doesn't give due consideration to others sometimes, and people don't like authoritarian regimes hidden behind the banners of democracy. Of the American political parties, I support democrats at least since the Clinton administration. I know you are republican supporter

5. I saw some Falun Gong protesters opposite the Chinese embassy last year when i was in the area. There was lots of literature about the killings and removal of body parts for rich donors. I really don't blame the US or other western states for getting involved because the interference into Chinese political issues can be extremely difficult especially for a government that is set in their ways especially regarding internal affairs.

4 Play:

@Loyika

Been sitting back like you said,but can't see anything to admire.

Only thing to admire is what I have been admiring for over a decade now-Man Utd's samba football.
Do you have anything to say for yourself,any requiem for your trophy hopes.

Gosh!!! What a pathetic liar you are. Are you sure you didnt just start supporting Man Utd after the treble season?

I will love it, really love if we gave you guys "k leg" on the way to the title

4 Play:

@Imani

Let me illustrate what I mean by M'uslim groupthink in this context. You have 2 Christians-Afam and 4 Play-who have diametrically opposite views on issues regarding "Christian" nations like the US and its policies in the Middle-East.

There is no groupthink in this context because although we share the same faith,we do not all see the need to "gang up" on the side of the "Christians" in their dealings with "non-Christians".

However,and this is the cornerstone of my point,had it been M'uslims,every single one of them will trudge into this thread to offer the same boilerplate rant against the non-M'uslims.There is little or no diversity of opinion within their faith on such issues.The emphasis is on "unity" at the expense of self-introspection.

If the issue concerns the Arabs,the decibel levels gets even higher with each one of them,especially the Africans,seeking to be more pro-Arab than the Arabs.The underlying reason for this is that theirs' is a faith which is merely a vehicle for Arab cultural imperialism.

Because the faith is essentially a vehicle for Arab cultural imperialism,it leads to,apart from groupthink on Arab geo-political issues,inter alia;adoption of Arab names,language,cultural practices and dressing amongst people who aren't Arabs.

Whenever an issue paints Arabs in a bad light-for instance slavery-their MO is to either avoid it or come out and declare total support for the Arabs.That one is pro-Arab is not in itself odd(I am very pro-US myself),what is absurd is that almost every single of them is.Like I noted earlier,once the poster is M'uslim,you can automatically tell what his opinion will be on an issue concerning Arabs.That is where the groupthink manifests itself.

I will defer to your analysis on this subject. I fully understand your stance on mooslim "groupthink" in the context that you have used it. There are 2 sides to the argument though. One school of thought says "not to paint everyone with the same brush", while the other says looking at previous history, it is easy to see why generalisations are sometimes made. It is true that mooslims are "louder" in their grievances than the Christians and most share in the "hatred" for the state of Israel. My stance on the Israeli/Palestinian issue is that Israel has every right to defend itself and her people against terrorists, particularly suicide bombers which certain parts of the i'slamic faith endorse. I once saw a documentary in which a young child was being "programmed to "hate" the Jews and taught to call them "dogs". Now, that may well be media propaganda, who knows? I have never been to the region and base most of my observation on media reports, articles, books etc. I made a point in my previous post about the communist states particularly China and maybe Russia to an extent. I have had several Chinese friends and they ALL believe Tibet should continue to belong to China. This is also a case of group think, but without the faith element. Remember the media in China is highly monitored and government agencies are quick to dissolve any dissent by force if necessary. What you be your views on the communist blocs? Please don't tell me they are wonderful.

Afam,

I have to agree with you that there is media "collusion" going all the time. At the end of the day, media houses also have their own agendas and will generally not want to fall out with the government in power, except they side with an opposition party. I will not go as far as to say that articles in magazines such as vanity fair is more credible than articles in financial times, time magazine, etc but like someone once said "don't always believe what you hear". With regards to the middle east policies, of course America and the west generally will have their own agenda which they want to portray. Nobody seems to care much about what is happening in Dafur and only a few media outlets pick up on the story weekly in the UK. In fact, it hasn't been mentioned during question time much this parliamentary session. I believe when a story is reported, there are usually "behind the scenes" incidents that the media outlets can decide whether to believe or not. Using the Iraq war, some of us never knew some of what the Americans and British solders were doing until the story broke out through pictures leaked to the press, probably by whistle blowers. Of course the MOD and their American counterparts would tried to suppress the news anyway before it was published. Media houses also have their own agendas. They are after ratings, therefore, they may "break a story" to get maximum audience. The context of which you have used media collusion was regrading the middle east clash, but looking closer to home, collusion is more rife in developing countries eg Nigeria, especially among politically exposed persons, and in the former soviet union blocs and other communist states.

4Play,

I find your illustration of "groupthink" interesting. Of course you used "name" to illustrate your point, but the same can be said of other factors such as dressing. You claim the mooslims are less likely to "dissent" from popular opinion. I agree that while it might seem the case, but on closer inspection, i will say this generally applies to the hardliners. My example of dressing, from the female point, is that there are different types of i'slamic dresses but depending on how "religious" a woman is in certain parts of mooslim world, they can or cannot follow the strictest type of dressing. I used to think all females were mandated to cover their hair until i met some at university who didn't. This is not to counter your point of being like "zombies" because i am aware, there is still a lot to be done to improve women's rights in the region. The context of my example obviously has some flaws, as i have based my illustrations on interactions with mooslim OUTSIDE an Arabic state. I doubt women in Pakistan would have such liberty, even though the choice is there but if the men refuse to allow them to use that choice, then it is no good to them. I think you will also find issues of groupthink maybe stronger in communist blocs such as Russia, China, Japan, Cuba etc, these people are not generally mooslim. So widen your pool.

I will come back to your example of name calling. Have to dash off to work now. No "african time" allowed and rightly so.

Night rider, do you even know where old trafford is located?. . .It is near Salford, a discrict of Greater Manchester. Thought you should know. Don,t forget your bike. tata

Dappsycool, you know what? knock yourself out.


Anyway, i have sympathized with the Arsenal enough today, the night comes, when no man can "work".


4play, i leave you with the words " it looks like a dog, smells like a dog, it is a dog"

@Mukina, thanks for taking care of dappsycool.

Gosh it has not been Arsenal's night with all these other club fans on our case.

4Play, i see you have decided to join your brother debosky in his mischievous ways  . Thats what friends are for, eh?

dapsycool:

Debosky and the other ass shit, shut up and go to bed.

In case you cant read, this is an ARSENAL thread. It is not by force to post. Thank you.


Debo, you sef, don't you hear word? Stop e-womanising abeg

SAM MILLA:

I wonder what nigerians did to these people, Each time they see us, the squeeze their faces LIKE people who has seen devil, I hope this will come to an end someday.

The british generally are stoic to strangers. It does not mean they are "sqeezing" thier faces. Americans are "friendlier" and generally more chatty. You must have heard the expression "stiff upper lip" used when describing britons. The french are even worse in this regard. I work with quite a few british people and they just go about thier own business, doesnt mean they are avoiding you, it is just the way they are. Culturally we are "different" we are generally more social and inviting and hospitable even when it is not necessary. It is all about cultural differences. None is either right or wrong.

almondjoy:

Well, Nigerians do not help matters either. . . having said that, I can never fly British Airways even if I wanted to enter the UK. It most definitely has to be an American Airline and there are quite a few that go there! Thank God!

If only Nigeria could have it's own airlines!

Are you serious? I haven't personally travelled on Nigerian Airways, but those who have recall having "bumpy flights and being served either akara/chinchin/ or some ridiculous food. I dont know how true that is but if Nigeiran pilots have to "estimate" where to land since the tower house/ radio controller may not efficient, i will talk Ghana Airways instead. Of course, I love Nigeria with all me heart.

What i know about BA is that they are never on time to anywhere especially Lagos, and they have been fined recently along with Virgin for collusion and other price fixing charges.

Debo,

I thought you had been "delivered" from womanizing. Hmmm maybe it is in the blood

4Play, "sleeping with the enemy" was a figure of speech. . . . Dont talk to me until tomorrow on this thread . By the way, i prefer espresso from starbucks

My fellow virteous gunners, we have been gunned down but we have not been fatally wounded, there is still light at the end of the "tunnel" Thinking about it, we have lost quite a lot of potential revenue by dropping out of the Champions league early. It is well

4 Play:

@Nightrider

Bros,you sabi good thing.Only a masochist will continue supporting a useless club like that.Its not like most of them are Londoners by birth or residence.

The reasons for supporting Arsenal are clearly disappearing.Kanu is no longer there. They don't win trophies any more,so what is the point?

You are a BIG, FAT and BLOODY LIAR!! Most Arsenal fans live in and around London. I lived in Manchester for 4 years and most residents support Man City. Most of you glory hunting fans reside in london and are what Roy Keane call "prawn sandwich brigade"


PS: If i am a machosist, then you are a major S and M freak.

4Play,

This ARSENAL chic does not "sleep with the enemy"

I do not know who I even want to win the cup now. Hopefully not Muppets United or Chelski. Will be too painful. I do not mind Liverpool winning again.

Arsenal have failed to take chances at critical stages of this season. They seem to forget that we have to play to win and it doesnt have to be "sexy".

Well, there is always next season . I think i should join the management team and encourage miser Wenger to actually SPEND money. With a defence that leaks more goals than a basket, we will only be dusting cobwebs again next season and be like Totenham always singing "so near, yet so far" . Poor old Totenham, they still get a lot of stick even when they are not playing

PDF:

It's a pity the defeat took the shine out of Walcott's superb run. It's a real pity. It's hightime Wenger benched Eboue for good for the rest of the season and the next one, if he is not sold.
I hope this isn't going to be Flamini's last Champions League match? He's been outstanding all season. I pray he renews his contract.

Good play by the lads, except Eboue and Senderos of course. Arsenal must be get good central defenders to replace the error-prone ones they have at the moment.

. . . it's fair to say the ref killed the game. Why is there no consistency in their officiating?

If i can lay hands on a gun, I will personally shoot Eboue or whatever his name is

Why does senderous remind me of Pascal Cygan except for the "gorimapa" in fact i am livid right now.

4 Play:

Come,make I cuddle you.

Tochukwu, I hope you are NOT "deaf". I say STAY AWAY FROM THIS THREAD . Nonsense. I am like a wounded animal, Dont try me

I need serious cuddles, because i am distraught

All these Muppet United peeps, STAY AWAY from this thread tonite,

I find it challenging enough to manage permed hair, why should i triple the task of hair management by going natural? My permed hair is long enough for me,

ayettymama:

you guys are funny, if u want a visa and your denied just go to another european country and you can get to us or London through there, besides i don't even no why everyone wants to leave Nigeria anyway its better down there.
well being born in London i don't think i will know how visa rejection feels but its not the end of the world!! save your money, invest it, make more money, start a business, there are sooo many options in Nigeria for you!!!! People running away from niger just lazy!

How would you know if people are "lazy" if you have never been in their shoes? Living in Nigeria for some is like living in a jungle. A lot of basic amenities taken for granted in the UK like running water, electricity, good roads, good transport links, good education, shopping malls are very limited for most and the average wage for some earners is less than £5 per week. These are people who probably have families, maybe more educated than you but the opportunities are simply not there, or if they are have been subjected to nepotism, as happens a lot in the Nigerian culture. Sometimes it is "who you know" that matters and leads to the right connection.

I am not advocating we all abandon our "beloved" country, but for some, when you get an opportunity to see a different way of life, why would you want to go back into obscurity?

4 Play:

@Imani

Can't blame you, can I? They say a prophet has no honor in Nairaland something like that). I run a small ministry dedicated to true Christians ever since the Lord touched me soul.
You should drop by one day,you need like you need some exorcism

About Winner,as a director of course.You think I'm a womaniser? I'm not like that

Tochukwu dear( I have a lady friend called by that name who is way calmer than you ), are you sure the "ministry you running is not another "side business" in London. These days, even cleaners and careworkers own churches after all "the Lord touched them too. You are all touched

Give me your address so i can drop by. [s]hope it is not another african house of horror [/s]

As a womaniser, you are almost as bad as debosky. where is he sef? Bless him

4 Play:

@Imani

Calm down dear,I'm Michael Winner

Bed ridden? I had to go church you heathen Had to cast out some demons

You casting out demons, you sure it is not the other way round? , the one that says "paul i know, peter i know, who are you? . The way you go around this forum sometimes, one would think you are one of those english folk who think " i will go to church for me wedding" and nothing else.

Looks like you are in a "friendly" mood today, could it be because you team dropped points too . sorry to rub it in . We are more or less out of the title race.

Did you say Michael Winner? Is it as a director or a man that slept with more than 130 women

4 Play:

Nope,I'm in England. I boarded a van to Spain.Once you to your destination,they will fix the necessary papers you need.I don't even know what a visa looks like.

Tochukwu, I wish i could get my hands on your inflated neck

BTW, did it snow at your end or where you bed ridden all morning?

4 Play:

By shipping from Morocco or Senegal.Once you get to Spain,na road them take carry me enter Britain

One HGV belonging to a company whose folks on the inside work with the smugglers.Very straight-forward journey.They came into our continent without permission so I go into their's without permission too.

It also helps to fortify yourself with powerful "Ogwu" or charms from back home.You will be virtually invisible to immigration.

Nobody should listen to 4Play . Most of his comments are "tongue in cheek". When trouble starts he will avoid you like a plague.

Mr adviser 4play, this is a serious thread, please keep it so.

Visa rejection is not the end of the world. My philosophy is "when one door shuts, another opens elsewhere". I have had dissapointments, though not visa related but have always managed to rise above them all.

@donchichi

Are you a mathematician? You are good. I take off my hat to you. Post "easier" questions so at least so i can contribute now.

top_kin:

My brain bin sharp one time before o! All these equations seem to me like magic now. Men, make i go jack o!

No be only you with "cobwebs" for brain . To be fair, if you dont have to use this level of maths, either at uni or in your line of work, then what is the point of learning them? It makes me question why we have to learn certain subjects which have no "continuity" in the real world and is just for knowledge purposes. Mathematics is different, you have to have numerical skills in most aspects of life.

4 Play:

Which kind "false hope"? Which man ever wants to get pregnant apart from people with serious psychological issues? You think we want to walking around with a protruded belly for close to 9months?Hell no!!

are you sure about that? . Most Nigerian males bellies from 30+ can be mistaken for 6 months pregnancy . There was a guy that a waitress had to ask a guy "when is the baby due" .

I have a mental picture of you and sure you will really look "sexy" with you protruding "belly". Please volunteer for a pioneering research so that this time, a baby rather than akpu or swallow will be in your tummy. Maybe you Will appreciate women more

@Topic,

While i am for liberalism , some things are just morally wrong. A doctor actually oversaw this whole process. The female in question is selfish and attention seeking. You don't decide to change your sex and change your mind to have a baby. She already had a womb. No amount of hormonal injections can change that. He is genetically a FEMALE and will always be. You can't always have it all. I thought freaks had been banned from the circus show

Look, all these people asking for chances, some were given first, second, third and even "last" chances. What did they do with it?

Thank God Seun deleted a particular thread, shame i didnt have time to digest all the failed love romances on this same nairaland. Grown men making fun of each other and disclosing YIM chats for all to read.

So, SAM MILLA, how many more chances are guys supposed to get?.