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Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 11:08pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
*Kails*: It is impossible to be from one tribe yes, but it is possible to look like one of them! |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 11:02pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
*Kails*: Firstly saying a person has strong Akan features does not make him pure Akan, it just means that the Akan genes are dominant. I really do not understand the point you are trying to prove here. Let me ask you a simple question? If an Akan man has a child with an Igbo woman and the child looks like the father. What tribe will people think the child is from? It does not mean the child is pure Akan. It just mean that the Akan genes were more dominant in the child. Several Nigerians have told me I resemble Igbo people. Now I could of course dismiss it and say it's a lie. A bit like what you're doing! Once, twice, then three, times. THEN I THINK ABOUT IT LOGICALLY. There seems to be a pattern All of these people cannot be lying. Nigeria heavily supplied the countries of both my parents with slaves. So very easily a link can be made. It does not mean that the blood of other tribes are not in my genetics. It just means that the genes that give me an Igbo appearance are dominant. I am happy for you about your post earning two likes. I hope you are proud of yourself. I am not one for saying things to please anyone. I am still failing to see the great offence and why this argument even started in the first place. If you say there is no Akan look then you must be right. There is also no Chinese look either! I WILL NOT ARGUE WITH A MAROON It could be quite dangerous! 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 10:10pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
*Kails*: Oh I know a fair bit about the Marley Family. My family are big fans. Sorry to disappoint you. 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 10:05pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
*Kails*: I know she is of Cuban heritage but regardless, she is not the most mixed Jamaican person. |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 10:02pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
*Kails*: @ bold My words are being twisted yet again! I said earlier certain Jamaican look like Akan People. I never once said all Jamaicans do! Some in my opinion look like Nigerians A few even look like Europeans. Some look in between. I all depends where you go. I don't see why you should be upset if I made an observation about some of my people resembling their ancestors. I am well aware than some Maroons mixed with Taino's however I'm sure that any Jamaican person of Maroon descent will have more African blood than Taino blood. Also search my posts and see if you can find me saying all Akan people look the same. Never said it once. But if we want to be really silly we can start denying brothers may look alike or even that children look like their parents. Just as we are doing when we say there is no resemblance between Africans and Caribbean. |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 9:41pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
*Kails*: @ Bold it does but different blacks within the diaspora have different levels of admixture. It's like comparing Rita Marley to Shaggy. Some are more diluted than others. . Or do you disagree? |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 9:34pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
May I add that in Jamaica especially in Maroon settlements. . The Maroons did not readily mix with other Africans mainly because the Maroons remained free for the duration of slavery while other Africans were enslaved. The Maroons were mainly of Akan descent. Because they were free through sheer rebellion they maintained a lot of culture that other Africans on the island were forced to loose. The Maroons were also not subject to sexual exploitation by Europeans like other Africans on the Island. Because of all of the above the Maroon peoples blood remained be [b]much more pure Akan [/b]than Afro-Jamaicans from somewhere like St Elizabeth, Jamaica where they are mostly all mixed like Mutts. Thus the reason why some Jamaicans today may still look like their African Fathers, while others have been diluted. |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 9:18pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Royal^^Pearl^^: Thank you |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 9:14pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
My words are being twisted here. Check my posts I said Beenie man had strong Akan features. Never once said that we was totally of Akan heritage. Some genes are simply more dominant than others. Just as a child may resemble his Mother, it does not negate the genetics of the fathers. What I will not do is pretend that there is no link! 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 9:01pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Royal^^Pearl^^: Interesting. . 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Which Culture Has The Strongest Influence Among The African Diaspora? by Jayvarley(m): 8:55pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Black Kenichi: I have heard of Mento but did not know a great deal about it. It sounds a bit like early Calypso. Jamaica use to make calypso in the early days. It's not just for small islanders! |
Culture / Re: Which Culture Has The Strongest Influence Among The African Diaspora? by Jayvarley(m): 8:49pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
That Mento instrumental sounds like a rendition of this song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2tt2gQgvG4 am I right? |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 8:39pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Royal^^Pearl^^: So which is your tribe? tell me about them |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 8:34pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Royal^^Pearl^^: Well I saw some beauties there. Don't worry I never said you all look the same. Well except on Wednesdays |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 8:19pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Fulaman198: Yep! |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 8:19pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
*Kails*: Will you please help the thread and post us a picture and show us how diverse your Jamaican features are! |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 8:15pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Fulaman198: The DNA tests only scratch the surface of a persons ancestry. As they only target two lines of Ancestry Mt DNA or Y DNA essentially that is your Female direct line passed from Mother to daughter or the Male line from Father to son . A Y DNA test will not tell you the origins of your Father's Mother A Mt DNA test will not tell you the origin of Mother's Father. African Americans by now are descended from as many tribes that were sold into slavery. All of this includes some slight European and possibly Native American ancestry. If you are from the Diaspora and you think that you will be able trace your ancestry back to only one tribe you are kidding yourself! |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 8:01pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Fulaman198: I don't doubt you, but I have never met any Fulani person who has proudly identified himself as one. As for other Africans that I have met they have identified their nationality and tribe. |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:58pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Royal^^Pearl^^: I admit most Ghanaians that I have met were dark, but I have met a few who were medium to light skinned. But then again all black populations have a few light skinned people even Kenya! |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:49pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Royal^^Pearl^^: A mixture of Jamaican, Barbadian and a hint of African American |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:48pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Royal^^Pearl^^: @ Bold this is possible but it seems that they do not come to the UK as much as other Africans. So are you going to post your picture up? I will tell you if you look Ghanaian or not |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:43pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Fulaman198: I do not know much about the Fulani people as I said there are not any significant numbers in the UK that I know of. As for Jamaican people who have a strong historical link with Ghana, I can honestly say that I see resemblance with the Ghanaians that I see in England. |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:36pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Fulaman198: @ Bold, I live in the UK I don't really see any Fulani people here in any significant numbers. As for Akan people anywhere I turn I see one |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:33pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Subgroups of the Akan proper include: Asante, Akuapem and Akyem (the Asante, Akuapem and Akyem dialects are together known as Twi), Agona, Kwahu, Wassa, Fante (Fanti or Mfantse: Anomabo, Abura, Gomua) and Brong. Subgroups of the Bia-speaking groups include: the Anyin, Baoulé, Chakosi (Anufo), Sefwi (Sehwi), Nzema, Ahanta and Jwira-Pepesa. Source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akan_people |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:29pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Fulaman198: The Ashanti are descendants of the Akan people and only form one Clan out of many Look up Rita Marley, I Octane, Ninja Man. They look like Akan people but I am not good enough to say which clan! |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:26pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Fulaman198: Not in my opinion. Find me a Fulani man who looks like him and post a picture! |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:25pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Royal^^Pearl^^: Of course not, but they are related to each other and will generally look like each other. A tribe is kind of like an extended family. |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:12pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
^^ That is an obvious one |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 7:07pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Fulaman198: I guess it would be difficult to tell if the ethnic groups are closely related. But those tribes who are only loosely related there may be noticeable difference. For instance there are several Jamaicans who I can see are clearly of significant Akan descent. Though I would not be able to tell you which clan they come from. |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 5:05pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Radoillo: I still can't tell Nigerians from Ghanaians. (Am I not looking closely enough?) Its easier with East and Southern Africans though. I think there are differences. Also noticed that Ghanaian women seem to have smooth dark skin. |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 3:26pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Radoillo: There probably isn't. But then I know next to nothing about DNA and genetic markers and all that. They are probably too closely related to be able to tell the difference by looks alone. Especially in modern times where tribal markings are used less. Now I can usually say a person may look Nigerian, Ghanaian, Caribbean, South African or East African but the whole tribe thing is still uncertain to me. Would like to know more about the Black diaspora as a whole. |
Culture / Re: Nigerian (igbo) & African American by Jayvarley(m): 2:15pm On Oct 09, 2013 |
Radoillo: In my experience, it appears chubby cheeks and prominent lips + comparatively darker skin and somewhat prominent eyeballs are stereotyped as Yoruba features. My cousin has those and people are always mistaking her for a Yoruba girl. I'm not sure I buy the whole light skinned Igbo thing. I've seen plenty of dark Igbos like Christine Ohuruogu. Notice that she also has full eyes? I've also seen plenty of fair skinned Yoruba's too. There has to be something more structural than skin tone. Are there really any genetic differences between the two groups? I'm starting to think not. . 2 Likes |
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