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African Americans do not have a specific culture as they were firstly SOLD OUT by their own people where they were mistreated forced by Europeans to discard their African ties and cultures. Ever seen the Roots Movie where Kunte kinte was forced to accept the name Toby? African Americans need time to heal; Africans must realise before they cast judgements on them. Secondly African Americans are not just from one particular African tribe but many different ones that all had different cultures and customs so AA are influenced by a fusion of Cultures.


I was once watching a documentary where a Afro-Caribbean guy went to Nigeria and started talking to some of the oldest Igbo people. When he questioned them about the slave trade and what they thought about Africans selling other Africans. their response was simply " The white man Brought good things here" There was no sign of regret from them at what had been done. The guy left in total shock that the Igbo's never showed any remorse for selling their own Kinsmen and children.


Funny how this is never Boasted about eh?

bigfrancis21:

Removing the benefits of being a US citizen that black americans currently enjoy today, all things being equal and regarding all as Blacks/Africans which we all are, Nigerians are better off individually and culturally than black americans. On a level playing field, the average Nigerian, who embodies the qualities of hardwork, perseverance, smartness, intelligence, communal living etc and also one whose culture encourages success and healthy competition, will in more numbers outperform his black american colleagues in whatever sector both nationalities find themselves in.

Can you please explain how you mean (better off) culturally than African Americans?

Akhenaten:

Not always true. Many coastal communities were depleted by European slave raids. Europeans started the slave trade. So do not try to pin the blame on Africans.

The Europeans used the Africans, by causing mistrust amongst groups that led to the wars.

And BTW, the Arabs went into the interior to capture slaves. They used African mercenaries to work for them, but Arab slavers were directly involved in the slave trade. Go to Zanzibar in East Africa or the coastal cities in East Africa, which were once ruled by the Omani Arabs.

Europeans Did start the transatlantic slave trade, but the sad truth Africans DID capture other Africans. It is NOT just a lie made up by the African Diaspora. Africa had practiced slavery prior to European arrival. When the Europeans finally arrived they did not come with empty hands they traded with the strongest African chief's who in turn captured weaker and opposing tribes for goods such as Guns, horses, Iron and fabrics. During the days of slavery the Average Caucasian in Africa would have died very quickly due to a lack of immunity to Malaria and many other sicknesses present there. So you must ask yourself did millions of Blacks voluntarily march to the west Coast to become slaves??

I think not, It was perpetrated by other Africans who went deep into the heart of Africa. They had an in depth KNOWLEDGE of their continent and where to locate and capture the weaker tribes who would be easily defeated.
Slavery was driven BY GREED.

I am not saying this to offend you, but you must find it in yourself to accept that this happened or you are denying the whole African diaspora of respect.

Igbo Proverbs in Jamaica

Proverbs[edit source]

Ilu in Igbo means proverbs, a part of language that is very important to the Igbo. Igbo proverbs did not fail to cross the Atlantic along with the masses of enslaved Igbo people. Till today several transliterated Igbo proverbs survive in Jamaica today because of the Igbo ancestors. Some of these include:

Igbo: "He who will swallow udala seeds must consider the size of his anus"

Jamaican: "Cow must know 'ow 'im bottom stay before 'im swallow abbe [Twi 'palm nut'] seed"; "Jonkro must know what 'im a do before 'im swallow abbe seed"

Igbo: "Where are the young suckers that will grow when the old banana tree dies?"


Jamaican "When plantain wan' dead, it shoot [sends out new suckers]"

Igbo: "A man who makes trouble for other is also making one for himself"

Jamaican: "When you dig a hole/ditch for one, dig two"

Igbo: "The fly who has no one to advise it follows the corpse into the ground"

Jamaican: "Sweet-mout' fly follow coffin go a hole"; "Idle donkey follow cane-bump [the cart with cane cuttings] go a [animal] pound"; "Idle donkey follow crap-crap [food scraps] till dem go a pound [waste dump]"

Igbo: "The sleep that lasts for one market day to another has become death"

Jamaican: "Take sleep mark death [Sleep is foreshadowing of death]""When cow tail cut off, God Almighty brush fly"; "God fan fly fi 'tumpa tail [stump-tailed] cow"

"Dog sweat, but long hair cover it"

panafrican: Nigeria could help. There should be a deal allowing at least 30 million Nigerians to go there and the problem would be solved. I really mean it !

I'm sure it would help. Somehow though I don't think the Indians would be too happy. But anyway Afro-Guyanese
have been unhappy for too long.

Because of the constant racial tension in Guyana the country fails to make economic progress
despite it being rich in natural resources and being home to part of the Amazon rainforest.


Because of this many Indo-Guyanese (Indian Guyanese) have been flocking in their numbers to Barbados to look for work,
and even settle.

Yet they are generally shunned by Barbadians and deported if a reason can be given to get rid of them.
but they always complain about racism and discrimination from Barbadians when they are the ones doing the same thing to Afro-Guyanese.

The reason I ask this question is because I recently travelled to the South American country of Guyana.
For those of you who do not know Guyana's population is up made of:

43.5% East Indian
30.2% Black (African)
16.7% Mixed
9.1% Amerindian
0.5% others

I was so shocked by the racism against black people in that country who were there since the start of slavery long before the Indian arrival which was about 175 years ago. Afro-Guyanese are living as second class citizens in their own country that is ruled by an Indian government. So I ask the question can Indians and blacks co-exist? Is the Hindu religion and caste system to blame?

Black Kenichi:
Jamaica was a place for slaves to be "broken in" so to speak. Also I know that not all the rebellious slaves were from Ghana but a significant amount of them were.

Yes correct. Rebellious and bad tempered slaves were often sent to Jamaica from other islands. In Jamaica slaves were treated more cruelly and certain methods of torture were carried out if a slave stepped out of line.
The Akan from Ghana were known for being rebellious.

KidStranglehold:

Again Swahili is a BANTU REPEAT BANTU LANGUAGE. Get over it.

And Arabs did not invade the Swahili coast. The Portuguese did. Arabs intermarried. Arabs only took control when the British gave the Sultan of Oman control over Zanzibar and that is where the confusion started.

I did not say Swahili is NOT BANTU If YOU FOLLOW, I just said there is a link. ARABS have been taking Africans as slaves LONG before the Europeans! Anyway there is there is nothing left to discuss. Peace

KidStranglehold:


Stop trying to implement Arabic into Swahili. The Swahili people already had enough with Arabs and Europeans taking away their history and heritage they do not need people doing any further damage. Yes there are SOME Arabic words, but again Swahili is a Bantu language as a whole.

I do not need to implement anything. It was done lone ago before I was born. Whenever an invader comes his language influences those that are invaded. Or are you saying that this didn't happen??

Racism Against Black People

Narrated Anas bin Malik: Allah's Apostle said, "You should listen to and obey, your ruler even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin."

Sahih Bukhari 9:89:256

Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if an Ethiopian whose head is like a raisin were made your chief."

Sahih Bukhari 1:11:662

Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet said to Abu-Dhar, "Listen and obey (your chief) even if he is an Ethiopian with a head like a raisin."

Sahih Bukhari 1:11:664

Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man)

Sahih Muslim 10:3901

'Ubaidullah b. Abu Rafi', the freed slave of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), said: When Haruria (the Khwarij) set out and as he was with 'Ali b. Abu Talib (Allah be pleased with him) they said," There is no command but that of Allah." Upon this 'Ali said: The statement is true but it is intentionally applied (to support) a wrong (cause). The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him described their characteristics and I found these characteristics in them. They state the truth with their tongue, but it does not go beyond this part of their bodies (and the narrator pointed towards his throat). The most hateful among the creation of Allah us one black man among them (Khwarij). One of his hand is like the teat of a goat or the nipple of the breast. When 'Ali b. Abu Talib (Allah be pleased with him) killed them, he said: Search (for his dead body). They searched for him, but they did not find it (his dead body). Upon this he said: Go (and search for him). By Allah, neither I have spoken a lie nor has the lie been spoken to me. 'Ali said this twice and thrice. They then found him (the dead body) in a rain. They brought (his dead) body till they placed it before him (Hadrat 'Ali). 'Ubaidullah said: And, I was present at (that place) when this happened and when 'Ali said about them. A person narrated to me from Ibn Hanain that he said: I saw that black man.

Sahih Muslim 5:2334

Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African’s color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks.

Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 11, p. 11

Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham’s descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem’s, the latter would enslave them.

Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 21, p. 21

A man of B. al-'Ajilan told me that he was told that Gabriel came to the apostle and said, 'There comes to sit with you a black man with long flowing hair, ruddy cheeks, and inflamed eyes like two copper pots. His heart is more gross than a donkey's; he carries your words to the hypocrites, so beware of him.' This, so they say, was the description of Nabtal.[2]

Ishaq:243

"I have heard the Apostle say: 'Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal.' He was a sturdy black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks. He used to come and talk with the Prophet and listen to him. He would carry what he had said to the hypocrites. Nabtal said, 'Muhammad is all ears. If anyone tells him something he believes it.' Allah sent down concerning him: 'To those who annoy the Prophet and say that he is all ears, say, 'Good ears for you.' For those who annoy the Apostle there is a painful punishment."[2]

Ishaq:243

It is your folly to fight the Apostle, for Allah’s army is bound to disgrace you. We brought them to the pit. Hell was their meeting place. We collected them there, black slaves, men of no descent.

Ishaq:450

The black troops and slaves of the Meccans cried out and the Muslims replied, ‘Allah destroy your sight, you impious rascals.’

Ishaq:374

"Abu Darda reported that the Holy Prophet said: Allah created Adam when he created him (sic). Then He stroke (sic) his right shoulder and took out a white race as if they were seeds, and He stroke (sic) his left shoulder and took out a black race as if they were coals. Then He said to those who were in his right side: Towards paradise and I don't care. He said to those who were on his left shoulder: Towards Hell and I don't care. - Ahmad"

Mishkat, Vol. 3, p. 117

Ahmad ibn Abi Sulayman, the companion of Sahnun said, “Anyone who says that the Prophet was black should be killed.

Ibn Musa al-Yahsubi, Qadi ‘Iyad, p.375

"Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham's descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met Shem's, the latter would enslave them."

Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 21, p. 21

"Shem, the son of Noah was the father of the Arabs, the Persians, and the Greeks; Ham was the father of the Black Africans; and Japheth was the father of the Turks and of Gog and Magog who were cousins of the Turks. Noah prayed that the prophets and apostles would be descended from Shem and kings would be from Japheth. He prayed that the African's color would change so that their descendants would be slaves to the Arabs and Turks."

Al-Tabari, Vol. 2, p. 11, p. 11

Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet said, "I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai'a, i.e., Al-Juhfa. I interpreted that as a symbol of epidemic of Medina being transferred to that place (Al-Juhfa)."

Sahih Bukhari 9:87:161

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: concerning the dream of the Prophet in Medina: The Prophet said, "I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling at Mahai'a. I interpreted that as (a symbol of) the epidemic of Medina being transferred to Mahai'a, namely, Al-Juhfa."

Sahih Bukhari 9:87:162

Narrated Salim's father: The Prophet said, "I saw (in a dream) a black woman with unkempt hair going out of Medina and settling in Mahai'a. I interpreted that as (a symbol of) epidemic of Medina being transferred to Mahai'a, namely, Al-Juhfa."

Sahih Bukhari 9:87:163

[edit] Negative Attitudes against Black Color

Abu Dharr reported: The Messenger of 'Allah (may peace be upon him) said: When any one of you stands for prayer and there is a thing before him equal to the back of the saddle that covers him and in case there is not before him (a thing) equal to the back of the saddle, his prayer would be cut off by (passing of an) ass, woman, and black Dog. I said: O Abu Dharr, what feature is there in a black dog which distinguish it from the red dog and the yellow dog? He said: O, son of my brother, I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) as you are asking me, and he said: The black dog is a devil.

Sahih Muslim 4:1032

And on the day of resurrection you shall see those who lied against Allah; their faces shall be blackened. Is there not in hell an abode for the proud?

Qur'an 39:60

The day will come when some faces will be brightened (lightened) (with joy), while other faces will be darkened (with misery). As for those whose faces are darkened, they will be asked, "Did you not disbelieve after believing? Therefore, suffer the retribution for your disbelief." As for those whose faces are brightened (lightened), they will rejoice in GOD's mercy; they abide therein forever.

Qur'an 3:106-107

[edit] Islamic Writers and Scholars on Black People

Ibn Khaldun (1332–1406) was, among other things, an Islamic jurist, Islamic lawyer, Islamic scholar, Islamic theologian, and hafiz

"Therefore, the Negro nation are, as a rule, submissive to slavery, because [Negroes] have little [that is essentially] human and have attributes that are quite similar to those of dumb animals, as we have stated."[3]

Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah, 14th century

"beyond [known peoples of black West Africa] to the south there is no civilization in the proper sense. There are only humans who are closer to dumb animals than to rational beings. They live in thickets and caves, and eat herbs and unprepared grain. They frequently eat each other. They cannot be considered human beings."[3]

Ibn Khaldun, Muqaddimah

Ibn Sina or Avicenna (980-1037), was, among other things, a Hafiz, Islamic psychologist, Islamic scholar, and Islamic theologian

[Blacks are] people who are by their very nature slaves.[4]

Quoted in “Blasphemy Before God: The Darkness of Racism In Muslim Culture” by Adam Misbah aI-Haqq

Ibn Qutaybah (828-889), was a renowned Islamic scholar from Kufa, Iraq

"[Blacks] are ugly and misshapen, because they live in a hot country."[3]

Ibn Qutaybah (828-889)

Nasīr al-Dīn al-Tūsī (1201-1274), was a Shia Muslim Scholar and Grand Ayatollah

"If (all types of men) are taken, from the first, and one placed after another, like the Negro from Zanzibar, in the Southern-most countries, the Negro does not differ from an animal in anything except the fact that his hands have been lifted from the earth -in no other peculiarity or property - except for what God wished. Many have seen that the ape is more capable of being trained than the Negro, and more intelligent."[3]

Nasir al-Din al-Tusi, Tasawwurat (Rawdat al-taslim):

[The Zanj (African) differ from animals only in that] their two hands are lifted above the ground,... Many have observed that the ape is more teachable and more intelligent than the Zanj.[4]


Al-Muqaddasi (945/946-1000) was a medieval Muslim geographer

"Of the neighbors of the Bujja, Maqdisi had heard that "there is no marriage among them; the child does not know his father, and they eat people -- but God knows best. As for the Zanj, they are people of black color, flat noses, kinky hair, and little understanding or intelligence."[3]

Al-Muqaddasi (fl. 966), Kitab al-Bad' wah-tarikh, vol.4

Al-Masudi (896-956), was a Muslim historian and geographer, known as the "Herodotus of the Arabs."[5]

"Galen says that merriment dominates the black man because of his defective brain, whence also the weakness of his intelligence."[3]

Al-Masudi, Muruj al-dhahab

Ibn al-Faqih was a Muslim historian and geographer

"A man of discernment said: The people of Iraq ... do not come out with something between blonde, buff and blanched coloring, such as the infants dropped from the wombs of the women of the Slavs and others of similar light complexion; nor are they overdone in the womb until they are burned, so that the child comes out something between black, murky, malodorous, stinking, and crinkly-haired, with uneven limbs, deficient minds, and depraved passions, such as the Zanj, the Somali, and other blacks who resemble them. The Iraqis are neither half-baked dough nor burned crust but between the two."[3]

Ibn al-Faqih al-Hamadani, Mukhtasar Kitab al-Buldan, 903 AD

Abu Rayhan al-Biruni (973-1048), was an Islamic scholar and polymath

"The Zanj are so uncivilized that they have no notion of a natural death. If a man dies a natural death, they think he was poisoned. Every death is suspicious with them, if a man has not been killed by a weapon."[3]

Abu Rayhan al-Biruni, India, 1030 AD

Hudud al-`Alam is a book dedicated to Abu l-Ḥārith Muḥammad b. Aḥmad, a ruler of the local Farighunid dynasty.

"Their [Zanj] nature is that of wild animals. They are extremely black." "Among themselves [the Sudan] there are people who steal each other's children and sell them to the merchants when the latter arrive."[3]

Hudud al-`Alam, 982 AD

"[inhabitants of sub-Saharan African countries] are people distant from the standards of humanity" "Their nature is that of wild animals..."[3]

Hudud al-`alam, 982 AD

"As regards southern countries, all their inhabitants are black on account of the heat of their climate... Most of them go naked... In all their lands and provinces, gold is found.... They are people distant from the standards of humanity."[3]

Hudud al-`Alam, 982 AD

Al Jahiz (781–869), was a famous Muslim scholar

"Like the crow among mankind are the Zanj [African Blacks] for they are the worst of men and the most vicious of creatures in character and temperament."[3]

Jahiz, Kitab al-Hayawan, vol. 2

"We know that the Zanj (blacks) are the least intelligent and the least discerning of mankind, and the least capable of understanding the consequences of actions."[3]

Jahiz, Kitab al-Bukhala (The Book of Misers)

"They [the Shu`ubiyya] maintain that eloquence is prized by all people at all times - even the Zanj, despite their dimness, their boundless stupidity, their obtuseness, their crude perceptions and their evil dispositions, make long speeches."[3]

Jahiz, Al-Bayan wa`l-tabyin, vol. 3

Ibn Abi Zayd (922–996), was a Maliki scholar from Al-Qayrawan in Tunisia.

It is disliked to trade in the land of the enemy or the land of the blacks. The Prophet, peace be upon him, said, "Travel is a portion of punishment."[6]

KidStranglehold:

Just saying, the Swahili language is not Arabic and certainly did not derived from Arabic. The Swahili people have been trading with different people like the Romans and even Greeks well before the arrival of Arabs and Islam.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/1924318.stm

There is a link with Arabic this cannot be denied.

KidStranglehold:

No its NOT. Its mainly Bantu with SOME Arabic words due to trading with Arabs.

I'd prefer to keep away from anything with even a hint of Arabic. No one hates blacks more than Arabs!!

emeka_020: I fully agree with OP igbo2011. The english language is colour-coded in favour of the caucasian. It is indeed a language seeded with racist overtones.
We definitely need to get rid of English language on the continent in favour of an indigenous language - and I DON'T mean Arabic, cos that's not indigenous.
Swahili and Hausa are my top favourites purely based on the relatively-high percentage of speakers.
The one we pick should be the MOST DEVELOPED language, capable of the deepest and most complex linguistic expressions.
I am presently not fluent in either language, so cannot make any judgements on this.

Swahili is also derived from Arabic.

Actually the English Language was using these kind of BLACK TERMS long before Europeans had any real contact with Africans. Also the term BLACK is the incorrect term to refer to people of African descent. Historically Africans have never referred to themselves as BLACK, but rather the names of their tribes and peoples. BLACK was a term coined by Europeans who could not distinguish the differences between African Peoples.

I don't consider Somali's black as most claim they are not however when they go to Arab countries they are RACIALLY abused. I wonder WHY

Is it true and are black people afflicted by it or is a lie being propagated by the Caucasians?

somalia11:


come on, how many times do Afrocentrism talk about Ethiopia


Look at the color of the flags of most negroids, it has Ethiopian colors

The question is not about Ethiopia or Somalia.

Black Kenichi: "Ethiopians Are Caucasion-video"
Hahahahahahahahaha! Is there no end to this pathetic Somali person obseesions?

Tell me about it. . I never see WHITE PEOPLE doing everything possible to prove they are Caucasian!!

somalia11:



It's somali, okay. Why don't you like somali people

I was ok with them until I met you on this forum. So I guess you've spoiled it for the rest

somalia11: do you need help gettin more than 1 page on this thread.

just ask.

Not from a somalian thanks

I never said everything the Afro-centrists say is correct? However it is a matter of difference in opinion. I will agree to disagree.

The fact remains that ALL peoples on the planet are descended from AFRICANS. It's just a case of how far back in time you want to go. Blacks will always be told our HIS- TORY which is that we came from nothing. This is why the TERM SUB SAHARAN AFRICAN came from to ensure we are SEPERATE to the WONDERS of EGYPT. I believe that no people on the planet possessed the wisdom knowledge of the Ancient Egyptians during their time. So if anyone could do it, they certainly could!

Who here believes in the out of Africa Theory

Well if you believe that all men on earth are originally from Africa, this will tell you Africans travelled and spread throughout the globe.

Then is it so hard to believe that more recently Africans again travelled on boats across the Atlantic?

All one would have to do is get in a boat and the SEA CURRENTS will take you right into the new world.

Africans did reach the shores of the AMERICAS long before Columbus there and is a lot of evidence to support it.
There is a Guyanese Historian by the name of Professor Ivan Van Sertima. If anyone looks him up on Youtube.
There will be some good info up there.

PAPA AFRICA: Yoruba
Eg. Brazil.

Well definitely as brazil has the most blacks outside of Africa. Where about the West Indies? What about the carnival what cultures do you see present there?

The reason I ask this is because I am often asked by Nigerians if I am Nigerian. When I tell them I am of Caribbean parentage they look a little disappointed LOL. So I ALWAYS ask them which tribe I resemble most and they always have said IGBO!

somalia11:


didnt say i am not muslim. said you guys worship me

no i dont use khat. but can i get you a weave? maybe some plastic surgery?

I have never regarded a Somali as something to worship? From what I know Somalia is a DUMP and also the fifth poorest country in the world which is why most of you don't want to live there!! If you lot are meant to be Gods tell me why your country is such a pile of rubbish. At least Nigerians can boast the THIRD richest economy in Africa!!!

somalia11:



no am here in the capacity of a god, since this is the way you guys view me.

the minute i leave you will go back to your obsession of talking about somali and ethiopian peoples features and debating whether we are ancient egyptians and talking about our women.


i have to put an end to this.

Is that right? Now I know you're crazy? I thought that guys are Muslims only believe in one God? Should you so rudely blaspheme Allah's Name? I am not in the slightest interested in the Somali people nor their features I can assure of that. Until I stumbled across you, I had no problem with Somali's either. Maybe you're running low on KHAT would you like some to calm you down?

somalia11:


not here to tell you how much better i am. i came here cause your stupid species were talking about our women and dna you obsessed monkeys

By the things you speak, I can tell you a VERY immature individual who is attention seeking. Don't you have any KHAT to CHEW or something?? Like I said before you know nothing about my ethnicity. You need to grow up and find something more meaningful to do with your life than to be trolling on an PROUDLY NIGERIAN forum and disrespecting Black people. Why don't you start up a SOMALI FORUM and mix only with your OWN kind so we don't have to read your CRAP. It's funny how most RACISTS keep away from the RACE that they do not like. But you I can't understand?? You are DESPERATE talk and INTERACT with us?? If you are not OBSESSED with BLACKS then PROVE IT and cease CONTANT with BLACK people on this FORUM like a good NORMAL RACIST!!!!!

I do not agree with what this woman is doing. However the fact remains the darker you are the bigger your problems!

somalia11:


somalis rarely speak arabic. and 99 percent of somalis have features that are somali like soft hair, brown skin, staright nose, big forehead. like you said those people didnt have somali features, just like white people some times have big nose which isnt a white feature doesn't mean all white people have big nose


even you said yourself somali features are soft hair and anyone who doesnt have that probably has admixure of bantu cause soft hair is a classic somali feature. but people like yourself are the same people who will use a light skin bleached nigerian witha weave and compare her to a typical somali and say west africans can look somali too


you will take the ugliest 1% of somalis who look negroid and take the prettiest 1 percent of negroids who look cushitic and say they are the same. its an old game.


carry on with your pathetic life

You talk as if you know my origins. Who told you I was from Nigeria? You call me pathetic and you are the one on a Nigerian Forum DESPERATELY trying to prove how much better you are than NIGERIANS and other WEST AFRICANS. You certainly have a lot of time on your hands right. If you do not like BLACKS why come on BLACK FORUMS? Can you please tell me

somalia11:


i think your mistaking people who are bantu in somalia for ethnic somalis. there are dark somalis but somalis typically have soft hair. the vast majority of somalis have a look that is hybrid of black and white. those who dont are like 1 percent.

I knew that one was coming sorry. They are INDEED SOMALI and speak Somali Arabic and tell me they are from there. Not all Somali have soft hair and keen features and you know it. MOST but NOT ALL

morpheus24:

Sub-saharan Africans share very similar genetic information,therefore it is not so necessary for you to know the exact make up only that it comes from a specific region within the continent. West Africans also mixed up per their local proximity so they aren't as "pure'as you might assume. Y-DNA just gives you the closet male ancestor to give you a good starting point.

A waste of Money in other words. DNA databases are still incomplete and some AA are unable to find a specific match for tribe or region with Y- DNA. More research needs to be done before I would take one of those