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Zahra29: Hehe.. You've taken it upon yourself at each point to expose the generosity of the UK immigration system. Its like telling apartheid SA to accept the generosity because indigenous groups elsewhere saw worse. In a race to the bottom, there are no shortage of nations who treat migrants worse to compare with. Also remember the better nations. I from the comfort of my home in the UK applied for and was given a Canadian PR - same thing that took me 5 years of good behaviour and taxation to achieve in the UK. What's strinking is that CAN is a wealthier nation per head with better growth potential. Ultimately, migration is a game of need, not generosity 8 Likes |
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IridescentAge: For the bolded... its the first time I've heard that excuse being used. Wonder if you'd tell an Indigenous Australian that. Migration was encouraged for certain groups into certain places. South Africa had millions come in. I don't see the many black people that were encouraged to freely migrate to Australia, Canada, UK e.t.c. History isn't kind. The more I learn about history, the more unapologetic about migration I become. 1 Like
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justwise: Sure they shouldn't. When I heard it was scrapped the first thing that hit me was 'subsidy is gone' by our dearest BAT. Might have been better to get an inside grasp first. I hope it doesn't come to bite them and sincerely hope they are able to 'smash the gangs'
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Gerhards: Lol.. never be so sure. Today, you speak English and likely believe that all your ancestors that existed before the coming of Christianity or Islam are in hell. The only way Africa would escape the increasing pressure to do what it does not want to is by growing its economy and avoiding stvpid debt. If we keep borrowing from the west, its only a matter of time that we would be unable to pay back. Options may be to face severe economic difficulty or agreee to certain unwanted terms. This might have already happened if not for the rise of China providing international competition to the west. 3 Likes |
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The salary structure in this country perpetuates poverty. Why should an NCO that has put in over 20 years in the military (manytimes with a family) with all the transfers and risks involved be on less than 100k? Where does experience and years of service sit? There should be a good overlap between higher ranked NCO and COs. I see no reason why a warrant officer can't earn as much as a lieutenant colonel. These are very experienced folks with good education many of whom were only unfortunate to be from poor families and hence didn't have the 'legs' to get into the NDA Also, the pay appreciation with the higher ranked COs is too much in comparison to lower ranks. For starters, no rank should be more than 10x that of a private. If a private or LC is on 50-60k, then a general should not be on more than 600k. Take the UK for example. A general earns grossly about 6x that of a private. Guess what? That General would end up paying relatively more tax so his take home would be about 3-4x that of lower ranked NCOs. Thats how to adress poverty and make sure higher ranked officers are concerned about the living condition of lower ranked colleagues. 5 Likes
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MayCar: Kudos! Remember to come and testify once completed |
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Oladepo812: There's still time and it's difficult to say what would be the prevailing climate after your PSW. It's likely labour would be tight with immigration until forced by the economy. It also depends on your field/course. There are exemptions for NHS roles and certain teachers are sought after so you or your spouse could target those. The main issue is that with a family of 4, any visa application na big money hence why you appear worried |
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crypticTrey: There's lots of uncertainty with the recent change and its difficulttosay how things would pan out. However, the current pay treshold for work visas are quite steep. Needed IT skills pay well but I it's highly competitive. It's worth reaching out to tech folks already in the UK to weigh different routes available. If coming for a masters program, it should definitely be one that'd align with your skills and boost your chances of getting a good job afterwards. You might be able to pick up remote jobs during your masters Also worth exploring Canada as it has an tech route for express entry and Can/USA pays quite well for IT. With good cash reserves, both routes don't have to be mutually exclusive. You can still go for a masters and apply for express entry anytime from now till PSW. 1 Like |
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walenden: Hehe... you call 7 days 'just'? What would you then consider a good delay... 6 months? Perhaps, the roommate may have seen the signs and sensed that this would be an unending occurrence. Hope he gets a place soon. 9 Likes |
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MayCar: What requirements do they need from each person? If you're looking at a really big sum, chances are you might run into thesame issue with another solicitor. Also, you might already have incured some bills with your current solicitor. Worth asking or looking around to see if you encounter people who got a reasonably different approach by switching solicitors. |
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Ticha: Hehe... no be small work get u. Kudos All this skill no suppose finish for one house. After building a capable team, you may as well leverage the knowledge into doer-uppers. 1 Like |
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Arostar2023: No need to imagine. We can look around the world and see countries who have made good progress and ask how many of them have a good chunk of their citizens doing such? How does the UK, China, Singapore keep evil at bay? Those countries dont have thousands of their citizens being killed by ragtag millitants monthly. Yes, visiting religious centres give many hope which is manytimes false. Its does more harm by stopping them from seeing the reality. If a good chunk of our many religious houses were factories, we'd be in a better position today irrespective of if we believed in God or not. In thesame vein, it does not matter how much prayers Nigerian offer, if we do not start building our economy, poverty and 'evil' would keep growing. |
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Arostar2023: If doing this was the solution, Nigeria would not be in a sorry state today |
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ObalendeCMS: Why did he not start by beating his fellow men? You are a disgrace 2 Likes |
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Richtaiwo: What do your senseless ramblings have to do with something which is a national issue? I expect every local government, state and federal agency to conduct such screening at regular intervals. Its a longterm issue that needs addressing not bigotry. 8 Likes |
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What kind of dinosaur 🦕 is this? Just look at the dashboard- even cars released in 2000- 2010 look better. 2 Likes |
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HeatSeeker: Lol.. Nigeria is not an Islamic state. Our constitution is not the shariah. The judiciary should use this case an as example to show that there is no excuse for domestic assault. 5 Likes |
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Just imagine. More annoying is that these attacks seem to be part of a wider attempt at systematic ethnic cleansing. In Kaduna, its mainly southern parts that are more affected 1 Like |
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Antoeni: Being single does not equate to being miserable. There are loads of miserable families in Nigeria. Women are not your punching bag. If you want to feel 'alpha' you start with fellow men 4 Likes 1 Share |
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I cannot understand how Nigeria - a poor nation, is able to pay its politicians far higher than the rich western nations. This is their legal pay aside the sum they steal. It's the reason why I laugh when folks advise people not to japa because of 'tax/bills'. As a Nigerian arriving the west, the first thing is to understand their social and tax system Take the UK for example, the take home basic pay for an MP (equivalent of a senator) is not more than 3x the basic pay of any minimum wage worker. That's the reason why our politicians become so humble when they are in the west. First snapshot is for a minimum wage worker on 40hrs/wk. Second is for an MP 1 Share
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NOETHNICITY: Read what you wrote and understand you are a disgrace. Very soon your lot would start insulting Nigerian women 2 Likes |
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Akalia: Rubbish! He deserves to face the full wrath of the law. When next its time for folks like him to insult our Nigerian ladies, they'd remember his plight. |
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essentialone: You need to see the world outside your view. If all the women you know and those in your family make money by sleeping with men, then you should understand it could be the opposite in other families. Home and abroad, Nigeria has many successful ladies many of whom support and even fully cater for their families. The answer is simple- same thing a man would do |
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CharleyBright: Those countries increase yearly - yes in small aliquots and despite being very rich nations with relatively high minimum wage, the pay of their political class is very tapered when compared to ours. The UK for example, the basic take home pay of an MP (equivalent to a senator) is about 3x that of someone on minimum wage. In Nigerian terms, it would mean a senators basic pay being 90k. You can now see why minimum wage is taken seriously there and thir citizens are not in poverty. If the Nigerian government wants to fight inflation, they should start with themselves. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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CharleyBright: So what happens in western nations that for decades increase their minimum wage annually- in line with inflation? Are you advocating that Nigerians should become poorer of maybe we reduce our minimum wage to 8,500 to fight inflation? As the government posits it needs to cut spending to inflation, they should start with themselves. The exorbitant expenditure and thefy if the executive and legislative are of government is a main driver 2 Likes |
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Goodenoch: There is no ego to be had here.. just facts. It'd interest you to know that the percentage of British emigrants as a percentage of total population has for a very long time exceeded the corresponding ratio of Nigerian emigrants. Infact, positive net migration in the UK has only been a relatively recent phenomenon. Migration is as old as man and exists in every society with constantly changing trends. Even after we're far gone, migration would still continue. 1 Like
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missjekyll: Interesting read. I find all the comparisons to Japan a good pointer. It's as though western nations are closely following and telling themselves: we don't want to go there.. I also see state school kids are dropping. There'd be enough room for kids of your friends leaving private schools afterall.. hehe So far, virtually no nation has been able to reverse declining birth rates. It doesn't help that the social net in the West is more of a ponzi scheme needing more new entrants, plus the part that older folks who paid in relatively little for short periods want an increasingly larger pie for longer periods they now live thanks to modern science. At some point, an equilibrium would be reached but no one knows what that'd look like. Perhaps many 'rainbow' nations. One other thing is the chatter about carers and their net contribution. A previous post highlighted the many ways care workers with families contribute prospectively. An additional way is to look at it retrospectively and see what it'd cost Britain with a falling population to source its care workers locally. First, people have to be incentivised to have more kids, then maternity and paternity pay for parents, pay for that childs nursery, education, health and sometimes housing. This is the best case scenario as costs might be much higher if citizens have health issues. At the end of the day, you have an adult ready to work in care but whom the government has spent over 150k on already. Given low pay, that adult might still need ongoing government support with housing. If they are off-sick e.t.c, govt has to support. Now compare that with an adult immigrant that costs the government zero. Even before the immigrant starts working, the nation is already reaping benefits by way of visa fees and the country is sure of 5 years of solid hard work without benefits plus a handsome ILR+citizenship cheque submitted at the end. Moreso, the govt sometimes uses them to subsidise pay that'd otherwise have been higher. A similar scenario happened in nursing with the govt even going on to scrap local bursaries. It becomes quite clear why western leaders tilt towards immigration when the seek growth. It's benefits when done well are tremendous. 6 Likes |
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Goodenoch: All forms of migration especially permanent migration is very much a part of both past and contemporary British culture. Yeah, times change but its mainly the perception and reporting that differ. When Brits/certain Europeans migrate, they see it as their right. When black folks migrate, its pictured as a privilege. Even on here, mention of Nigerians relocating the UK is christened as 'folks in search of utopia'. Meanwhile, you'd hear words like explorer, risk taker, yolo, expat et.c being used to describe hundreds of thousands of Brits who emigrate yearly. 5 Likes |
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babajeje123: Lol. Na to ask am same question too na Another one I get is I hope you don't mind asking where youre from? Once I guage the purpose of the question, My reply is sometimes stating the town I live in. Some get it and keep shut. Manytimes, I reply 'I'm from Scotland'. Looking confused perhaps thinking I didn't hear them, they're like no, I mean where you're actually from and I reply again 'Scotland or do you have a problem with that'? Responses are in the line of hmmm... ok.. na there useless question dey end. It's funny how microagrressions fizzle out once properly challenged. I once told one being, I've never met an American who is not an immigrant given I've never met a Native American. Same apllies to Aus Occasionally, I encounter those reasonably curious and if I have the time, I engage 1 Like |
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[quote author=Zahra29 post=130729259] It was a route that highlighted the shortsightedness of Brexit and the desperation of the UK government to seek oversees labour to fill gaps rather than let wages rise and the govt/populace pay up as they had promised voters Perhaps you're mistaken. I've never questioned that 'right'. What I've done is discuss immigration policies, drivers and resultant effects. Nigeria adds over 4 million people yearly. Without immigration, the UK populace would be in decline. What Nigeria mainly needs is to upskill its populace
Statistics doesn't work that way. Just like with life expectancy e.t.c trends can be followed. The US has a cap on certain visas, canada last year outlined how many PRs they hope to issue per year till 2026. What I had expected the UK govt to do is to institute an independent advisory panel that advises what estimated net migration numbers are needed by the economy to keep afloat and where these numbers are mostly needed and what percentage should be for work visas. This should be done protectively taking lots of economic variables into account. Parties can then campaign based of that. If we had such in place, it'd have been obvious that the net migration from the EU wasn't horrendous. It'd have been obvious that the care industry would struggle post-Brexit. I'd say 300k - 500k net are needed yearly. Govt officials know this but are too timid to relay this to voters |
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Zahra29: Lol... Zahra.. I agree see it's been a true demonstration of British benevolence. Stop the back and forth and let me ask. 1. Does the UK need immigrants? 2. If yes, given current realities, what number of immigrants do you estimate the UK needs annually to maintain a stable economy? 3 Likes |
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LionInZion: It's very difficult to change a narrative once the media has latched unto it. Look at Rishi. How was the IHS fee introduced? If I'm not mistaken, someone on a visiting visa gave birth in an NHS hospital and left. The narrative was so driven that those on work visas were now made to pay an extra levy including those working in the NHS until the covid experience challenged the folly. A part of me wanted them to go on and end the psw visa as had been suggested but for new entrants only. So when reality hits in a few years, it's back to chasing tails and they can learn once more that for many, a british masters cert is only worth the migration advantage it offers. LionInZion: Lol... I no even see that one. Generosity indeed. Reminds me of a white Southafrican I met who described how the apartheid regime were 'generous' in handing over power to Mandela in 94. Perhaps he was comparing their 'benevolence' to what the relatives of his forebearers did to indigenous populations in the U.S or Aus. As entitled and ignorant as that word sounds, a fair portion of the populace still thinks same. Its why as a country, were yet to get past the first question i.e do we need immigrants ? 2 Likes |
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