storylad: are u talking about d bible or d church. whats's d differnece btwn round n sphere...pls share wit me.

Round: The shape of a closed curve with no sharp corners

Sphere: is a perfectly round geometrical object in three-dimensional space, such as the shape of a round ball.

chukwudi44: Truthislight is a hypocrite and a heretic and will likely shy away from this especially as it concerns the last three questions.

I would attempt answering your questions.

1.For one to be a true or orthodox xtian he must believe in the apostle's and nicene's creeds and strive to live by the dictates of God.

2.A scripture is a holy writing concerning the early prophets,Jesus or the early church.it can either be historical,instructive or prophetic.

3.You can verify scripture by checking if its accounts and propecies are consistent with the rest of the teaching of Jesus,apostles and the prophets.

3.The bible refers to canonised scripture.This implies that there are some scriptural books which was not canonised and hence not in the bible.

5.The bible was compiled by a group of catholic bishops led by st Augustine of hippo in 393CE @ the synod of hippo.it was also ratified by the local councils of carthage held in 397CE and 417 CE

@First: How did you arrive at this?

@Second Bolded: Aren't those scripture important? On what grounds were they excluded?

truthislight:

firstly, i have to object to your singling me out for THIS discussion.

No man is a custodian of knowlege and i am NOT.

You should have left it open to all or invite many christians.

Like it is obvious Already, the so call christians will/may end up attacking each other due to the points you have chosen to be discussed.

To this end and avoidance of confussions i will like to point out that my view points are exclusively base on what is contain in the bible, and when i say the bible, i mean GENESIS to Revelation (66 books)


as much as i find most of what you wished we discuss very pertinent, however they are highly contentious.

Even the one highlighter above will bring alot of argument that will polarise things the more in this forum.

In the light of the above, i feel it is not my place to pass Judgement on people, but to point out what the bible says whenever possible.

There are very Good bible student in this forum that i cannot go listing there names here, but i surely belief that the simple fact that they show so much interest on what the bible says and not for "SELFISH REASONS" qualifies them to be called bible student and as such qualifies to continue expressing their view points here.
Afterall the bible says "iron sharpens iron"

this should and can only be an open discussion open to all that feel their views are biblical/true.

For me, i take "ONLY THE 66 BOOKS OF THE BIBLE AS THE WORD OF GOD" but you are very well aware that this statement alone will not go down well with the catholics(RCC)

please. If you wish add other people names or better still remove my name and let all come and have a swell time.
Peace

Don't worry others are free to contribute....

Please go ahead and start with the first question

damilarelr:

I didn't say the Bible is just the oldest book, but the oldest book that contains the latest news. The difference is that one came from men, while the greater one came by God.

What news that the Sumerians didn't say already?

Kay 17: What is the possible consequence of a stagnant Sun to Earth, other than nothing, thus betraying Joshua's ignorance of astronomy.

I wonder...

Bélla3: John the baptise wrote the book of John nt john the beloved, they are two different pple.

How can he write a book when he dies midway through it....Nansense

CrazyMan:
You don't get it do you?

We're very much interested but I smell a rat here...this questions you asked would lead to further questions when answered and more questions...from your post so far (the one on the home page and this one) you're not here to get answers, you have a secrete mission.

Therefore consider number 2 and 6 on the terms and agreement, and we would have a change of heart.

Signed PRO

2. I agree

6 The answer is on the header of the thread

If not interested dont reply

truthislight:

guy, am sometime TAKE BACK by what you say,

when i wish to take you seriouse you come up with such.

Our thread is waiting anyway..Did you see what he posted? how can any one claim that science has not helped to solve human problem? Isnt that stu.pid?

damilarelr:

Of course the book of books, the oldest book with the latest news answered it all. Let Science come out with it's practical explanation, then I will show you where the Bible explained it.

You must be joking...Sumerian Tablets are older than biblical writting..

truthislight:

must you lie?

WHERE did it say it is flat like a coin?

You belief whatever you wish.

I am showing that there are words with different description

damilarelr:

Hey Mr. Scientist/Engineer, the earth revolution around the Sun was normal until the day of the battle. There's nothing ignorant in what I wrote. For instance, it's just like how a permanent increase in cost price of a product affects the selling price, the extra cost has to be added. Do you get it?

Mr Liar..We can look back in time to billions of light years ago uptil 10 ^ -45 planks time after the big bang and its a fact that NO day is missing and the earth's revolution can be shifted so we can obtain variances but NO day and i repeat NO day is missing..I wonder what your evidence is.

atrix4g:
U open it urself

Are you a muslim?

Laalamed: Bible is different from church.do not blame Bible for church error.Bible said earth is round/spherical depends on translation.science said otherwise.science has contributed to human woes e.g nuclear bomb.[b]has science ever solved human problems[b].nope.read ur bible and free.

Are you intentionally trying to be stu.pid? so your phone/pc on which you are typing is not solving human problems?..Does god speak to the church? Yes or no? If the church truly err's has god not erred? Church matter neva send millions to grave ni?

atrix4g:
waitin forr u

where is the thread?

Classicalman: No @O.P. The Bible is the only source of truth.

I dey laugh

atrix4g:
ok ow?

Do you mind opening a thread so we can analyse the 'Wonder of the Qu'ran'

atrix4g:
abeg quran no fail for dis one ooo

Critical analysis shows its failure too..

honor2011:
Bro, have u ever read the Quran. It contains numerous and uncountable scientific evidences.

If you and i analyse the Qu'ran you will realise that it is in the same boat with the bible..

CrazyMan: Ummmmm...he would not come.

Your replies most especially number 5 and 6 to our terms and conditions are unsatisfactory. Therefore as the public relations officer of the Nairaland christian fellowship, I shall be plain to you what we've concluded on.

We've come to a conclusion that since its very impossible for you to state your demands, we have decided to boycott the debate, pending when you would play the honesty role and be more straight with us.

Signed CrazyMan PRO

Ok, im waiting for TIS he said he'll be here since you are not interested..Cheers

damilarelr:

The reason why science could not simply explain what's responsible for the size of rain drops from time to time, why it rains in some regions and snow in other regions, how a simple green caterpillar changes to a winged colourful butterfly overnight, the origin of wind, or why all the perennial crops trees like orange tree fruit at the same time, why science cannot design ba camera with the same resolution as the human eye...I can go on and on. Have you ever considered why there are natural things and artificial ones? Come on give glory to the Creator of nature.

Bros, Science doesn't have all the answers.

Neithes does the bible/quran etc

damilarelr:

Science actually teaches there are 365 and one quarter days in a year. That's why every three years (of 365 days), the fourth year will carry one additional day in February.

The extra 1/4 day (6 hours) on all the years was the duration which sun stayed still in the days of Joshua.

Next..

Theoretical nansense..

chic 91: . y do we av 365& a quarter (1/4) days per year

thats how long it takes the earth to complete a revolution..its 365.256363 days per year

linearity:

...but aren't you ignoring the fact that science have taken much more of its killings as well...like atomic bomb, nuclear bomb...The Prime Minister of Israel came of TV the other day and start rallying the world against Iran...and there are some rumors that he might strike Iran in anytime...all because of some scientific developments in Iran and he is going to use science to strike them as well.

Hope you saw the cynicism in my comments...my point is Science and religion are both forces of good and evil, it all boils down to the individual(s).

and the fight of Isreal and Iran is scientific? i laugh..

damilarelr:

Chairman, the plague that affected the livestocks in Egypt that time did affected only the flocks of the Egyptians. It's just like when the Destructive Angel killed all the firstborns in Egypt and spare the Israelites. The Israelites lived in another part of Egypt named Goshen.

and affected egyptian horses magically re-arose and started pulling chariots..

dabigwalls:

Quite a simple and concise piece of nonsense you got there. Well done.

Yes and that nonsense freed humanity from the dark ages

truthislight:

hahaha.

Im trying anyway im waiting for you on the new thread..

jude33084:

Are U̶̲̅ normal?

Where ♏en speaks, kids listen

Go back to class bom boi..

KINGwax: i shld biliv you're a muslim by the cliche 'Almighty'. Now, u said the bible depicts God as fearing human by scattering them all over while buildin the tower, well answer this, ' is your Almighty that docile that u have to draw swords and throw bombs on his behalf'?

Try again

Sagewood: Interesting thread. I am waiting for science / evolution to explain the divergence in the human race. How do u explain chinese, white, black, hispanic, Arabs, Indian, etc? Did white evolve from black or chinese?

Isnt it the bible that fails at this?

1. Have i ever insulted you? 2. ok 3. Ok 4. Understanding all the loopholes and escape vents in it: i agree but remember that its all myth not fact ok? . 5. Lets cross the bridge first 6. We are starting with elementary debate nothing ..P.S I need an argument junkie o ehn Where is TIS?

TroGunn: The Bible is not a science text book, it's primarily a religious book. But whenever it touched on science, it's surprsing accurate and even against popular believe of the time of the writer.

A good example is on the shape of the earth when it was popularly thought to be flat. A spherical earth is described in Isaiah 40:21-22—“the circle of the earth.” Note, the Biblical Hebrew word for “circle” can also mean “round” or “sphere.”

Nansense.. He will surely violently turn and
toss thee like a ball (Dur) into a
large country: there shalt thou die,
and there the chariots of thy glory
shall be the shame of thy lord's
house. (Isaiah 22:18) meanwhile The Hebrew word Chug (גוח) means a flat-circle like a coin as the bible says. i doubt you study hebrew

mayoroflag:

Okay, you're now both a comic and scientist. Cheers, man...

Its part of the job