JeSoul:

  I'm sorry mudley but your '313' id is on a permanent ban and will remain there for now. Even if you feel you did not deserve a ban before, you certainly more than earned it by your behavior/posts yesterday.

uh huh? and was my mudley313 id active yesterday to suffer retribution for what another id posted (and subsequently deleted)?

I've asked Mukina to unban the other id. That is the best I can do for you.
You do not have to worry about any christians bothering you from now on, you have my personal guarantee. Open your threads and carry on, but make no mistake, if you post any topics that I deem offensive and/or I receive complaints about from other members, I will take action

whatever

it's evident your decisions are easily influenced by the prodings of other christian members on this board and that was exactly what happened when you were spurred into rashly banning me unfairly in the first place. not good for a mod who claims to be objective

JeSoul:

I will put in request to unban your other ID. But oga if you misstep, the gavel will come down. Rest assured. Thanks.

madam, just simply keep your word na; is that too too hard to ask for? my 313 id was the one that was banned unfairly and was not part of whatever behavior you're trying to bring up in your earlier post. you don't have to base your decisions on the desires of the tobas. this is what brought about the whole unjustified treatment in the first place

JeSoul:

I will put in request to unban your original ID.

thanks. still awaiting the unbanning of my original id tho

But oga if you misstep, the gavel will come down. Rest assured. Thanks.

no problemo. but you have to caution your e-christian soldiers as well; either they have something tangible to contribute when they stop by my threads or keep it stepping--like i see you advice them. like they say, if you cant take the heat, get out the kitchen. apart from that, im all for according one another mutual respect in here

Jon.Bee:

Prejudice & arrogance --- all in the mix esp. the media. Gosh!!

na so we see am. ofcourse im not trying to say all whites are racist or prejudiced, this thread is just about how arrogant whites are in response to these things and it goes to show you how they really feel about things.

i keep hearing that this is an UNSPEAKABLE ACT. you never hear that when black people get killed or shot; sh1t is just expected. even though political assassinations and assassination attempts are not really even that rare in american politics. but white people tend to willingly forget their violent acts quick, but still bitching about OJ till this day.

manmustwac:

@mudley
Your last two topics (Santa versus God and God Is An Epic Troll) is what really caused this problem. Both topics raised questions which i thought were funny but (later realized) that Chrisitans found very offensive. I noticed that two people in pacticular who were offended by you ridiculing their belief system did not bother to come up with answers to questions you posed in both your topics just took to dearailing both topics and launching personal attacks on you instead.

TOBA the main culprit was not really offended by my topics. he already had a personal vendetta against me due to my exposing his made-up e-identity as a fake PHD holding real estate agent with an ecowas passport filled with foreign visas as all bold faced lies, as well as exposing his 2nd id "jesus" he dubiously used in tag team unprovoked attacks against me. the other uyi guy had been stalking me even previously probably to get some e-recognition or something, but i just totally ignored that one cos i know he wouldn't dare yap all that nonsensical grammar of his to my face in real life. toba saw this as an opportunity to go on a tag team assault, and guess who got banned for the errant behavior of these two

JeSoul (who locked both your topics) is on one side of the coin and i am on the other. So it is a lot easier for me to see things from your point of view than it is for her. I who have been monitoring both topics from the start (just like you) know the whole truth. Two other people should've been banned instead of you.

i personally dont believe mods should take sides whether muslim, christian, or atheist. even though we all have our own personal biases but once you accept the job of being a moderator you should be able to separate your biases from how you impartially resolve issues here. the only advantage i would give you is that you were the mod who was there from the very start but once jesoul logged in she rashly jumped into her own preconceived/bias conclusion unfairly handing a ban to screen names she dont like while conveniently overlooking the main cause of all the brohaha. her buddy TOBA

But then wetin don happen don happen. Theres nothing i can do about it now. I see you as a militant atheist which means you come over as agressive and combative. That could be the reason why some people don't like you. I suggest you cool down bbecause i wouldn't like something like this to happen again.  

No. i think the christian mods should set their egos aside and unban my mudley313 id in the name of fairness and equity. i wouldn't like something like this to happen again either but we first have to correct the wrong that has been meted out

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mukina2:

You were not the only one that got banned, 3 others were banned as well.

um. i still don't understand what 3 other people getting banned has to do with the issues i've raised

so, 3 other people got banned but TOBA who initiated the whole derailment of my threads into vitriolic personal insults and abuses didn't. did you guys read through the threads before issuing bans or you just look at screennames and do that. every single TOBA post in both those unfairly locked threads had nothing whatsoever to do with the topic; every single SENTENCE of his were laced with vile and benign curse words from lunat1c, to id1ot, to imbec1le, to mumu etc; every single post of his was a personal attack targeted at i the threadstarter. how did all that skip you guys? any special privileges conferred on some particular members on this forum?like, being an ardent e-christian faith defender or praise worshiping/stroking the egos of the mods daily in totally unrelated posts

if you guys actually read through the threads you will see where i told him that instead of constantly stalking me and hiding under the guise of personal insults he should open a thread for the 2 of us lets debate our opinions intellectually or even biblically to find out who the real mumu is. you will see where i constinually deliberately ignored the vitriols toba and his christian cohorts were spewing towards me after i persistently clicked "report to mod" button to no avail. but no, its i who gets the ban

mukina2:

Actually i deleted the last posts on this thread.
if mudley wants to take shots at people all in the name of replying posts in this thread, the posts will be deleted. This thread has a purpose and it stays that way. If you have complaints post them here but do not use this thread to take shots at people.

well, i just did that to test the bias of the mods (and in turn point out the double standards that unfairly got my mudley313 id banned). TOBA took shots at me earlier here(like he did all over my threads that i somehow got the blame/ban for) calling himself me a lunat1c and uselu patient and a blind eye was turned on his post. but once i responded it was automatically deleted

Mudley this is not the first time you are being banned for personal attacks on people.

and did i make a fuss out of my earlier bans? but this recent ban/shutting me down/getting rid of me issue was clearly dubious and UNJUST. especially when the instigator and main culprit of ACTUAL personal insults on those my unfairly locked threads is still left roaming committing the very same offenses you guys keep accusing me of. TOBA personally insulted/cursed/swore on every single sentence in every single post he made in those my threads, apart from the fact that he was the one that INTENTIONALLY started the derailment with posts that had nothing whatsoever to do with the thread topic. but it was i, the threadstarter, who got the BAN. WHY

For those of you in the US following this tragic event. . .

Mind state:

Black DC Snipers who shot people = criminals, terrorist, just plain evil

Black Gang Members = OH Well, niggers will be niggers. What do you expect from, "those people."

White Shooter = OMG, he's just craaazy.

Blame:

Blame for acts of violence from blacks = must be that "gangsta rap from that R. Kelly and that Chris Brown and NAZZ they listen to"

Blame for acts of violence whites commit = we need more mental health care facilities in this country. We cant blame others for what one nut does.

Conclusion:

Surely whites are loving caring, benevolent beings. For one to do such a thing they must be INSANE. Not like niggers who are naturally violent.

So, for those of you who swear to god that whites aren't racist in general and blacks aren't treated differently in white media, this is the most recent example

i see. the same mods who try to imply that i am FREE to air my grievance on the COMPLAINT thread in the same breath deletes my every post and bans my every id when i do just that. i will still continue to fight against this mod bias and despotic silence-the-opposition tactics going on here. i know you deleted my last thread because i retaliated against TOBAS personal attack (even though you guys pretend personal attacks are against the rules). then why is TOBAs post calling people lunat1c and uselu patient okay with you guys, but not mine that had no curse words? why the preferential treatment/double-standards?? or is toba having a secret e-romance with one of the female mods? i will repost my deleted post without the reply to tobas assault (due to the special christian privileges he enjoys here) and continue to fight against the christian mod BIAS going on here.

Deep Sight:

Well this matter is frankly too inconsequential to warrant any further or extended discourse or argumentation thereon. Let me simply say that I disagree with you and I believe that your reading of those links in comparison to the instant issue is very selective indeed. Selective because you seem to have deliberately overlooked inflammatory comments in those links and similarly overlooked the vast majority of the OP in the mudley thread cited. That vast majority was pictoral and gave posers asking questions which hinged on the contradictory nature of the Judeo-Christian God. I repeat that that is fair game - posers that require honest answers regarding the nature of God. But you seem to have over-looked that and rushed on to see "incendiary" posts where you want to see them, whilst ignoring same in other threads.

My last word on this is the same concern i first spoke about: we cannot muzzle free speech on a board that is meant for open discussion.

i must admit it's a little encouraging to see an actual nigerian attempt to take an IMPARTIAL stand on this christian-bias-infested boards. this matter is as inconsequential to you as it is to me but it's quite nauseating to see how the play of christian/buddy poster favoritism, despotic type power-politics and outright bias is being carried out here. just read through the thread and see the buddy-buddy going on amongst dem christian folks with discussions (involving the mod) centered on how best to get rid of people with differing opinions. it's funny how mr. dulcet7 has deliberately tried to ignore all contrary evidences of how my threads were rashly and unfairly locked due to the mods personal sensitivity and bias while hanging on to whatever he can to portray me as the guilty party, like he's some kind of personal lawyer for jesoul. they're countless posts here of christians desecrating (according to dulcet7) allah and islam as a religion of the devil, countless posts depicting muhammad as a terrorist and craddle-robber, etc i even gave a good example of the "to all mumu atheist" thread from a christian with an actual insult/curse word on the title itself but arrogantly intolerant christians only wanna see things their way, and pretend to be blind to anything contrary. is this how christianity works?

so, mr. dulcet (since jesoul has technically decided to concede to her bias by default of running away from the issue), can you pls go objectively re-read the threads/posts in question and explain to me why TOBA, who started the whole downward spiral of my threads/made the most incendiary posts/personal insultive attacks/indiscriminate use of vile and benign curse words/every of his posts had nothing whatsoever to do with the thread topic, is left off the hook while i who spent all the time trying to get the attention of the mod to help put back some civility into my threads derailed by jesouls buddies was the one who eventually got the ban and my threads locked? after that read through the buddy-buddy back n forth between jesoul and her christian comrades on here after they successful got rid of me by hook and crook and tell me again there's no BIAS on these boards. oh i forgot, you're actually part of them

JESOUL, set your EGOs aside and FREE my mudley313 id. it didn't do nothing but air it's opinion like i thought we're free to do in this PUBLIC FORUM nor did it intentionally derail threads or call people vile names like your christian buddy TOBA. you already banned the id that pissed on you but what did my mudley313 id do to you apart from having a different religious opinion from yours?

JeSoul:

Mudley, for the last time, you were one of 4 people banned. Theirs was shorter because they have not been in as much trouble as you.

what has the amount of people banned got to do with my complaint? how come your buddy toba who single handedly (with uyi) derailed my threads and turned them into a personal abuse fest let off the hook? why the double-standard??

This is my final comment on this issue.

ofcourse you're gonna wanna run away from an issue that exposes your obvious bias

with the level of tolerance and unbias displayed by our dear christian mod jesoul on these forum i bet it'll be all lovey-dovey for people who profess a non-belief in gods in nigeria

JeSoul:

Deepsight, I am thoroughly disappointed by your premature comments. You do not even have half of the story but yet jumped in head first to comment. If I am your "buddy", then you would've known your comments are severely misplaced. I am really disappointed.

what has being buddies got to do with an IMPARTIAL assessment of the situation. oh, i forgot, thats how things usually works in nigeria

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Religion section members, I make this comment only for your benefit. The only person that has ever accused me of wrongdoing is Mudley, the ONLY PERSON - a known trouble maker that has been banned countless times by Mukina. I've received complaints from not only christians on him - this alone should speak volumes.What many of you do not see are comments that are deleted and the obvious track-record of recurrent trouble posters. These factor a long way in decisions that are made. I would hope that my history here as a regular poster & mod has earned me some benefit-of-doubt from premature judgements such as DS has exhibited. Nevertheless, issall good.

does the fact that sensitive christians think im a trouble maker provide the avenue to be BIASED against me? lets stick to the issues here. i will say it again and i believe its obvious to any fair minded person following this thread: JESOUL; YOU HAVE BEEN UNFAIRLY BIASED TOWARDS MY MUDLEY313 ID and maybe due to pressure from your fellow christians have finally capitulated in exposing your obvious bias by handing me an unfair ban. how come toba (your fellow christian) is still here throwing personal jabs while it was he (and Uyi) that actually started the derailment and flagrant use of offensive personal insults in the threads you chose to LOCK because (according to you) you found them offensive. why treat people differently?? why do you berate only me and ignore those who ACTUALLY started the fights and all of their overtly incideous personal attacks? everyone of tobas post in my thread was laced with personal insults and nothing at all to do with the topic, while all i did was try to ignore them while asking the mod to help restrain him and uyi, but you in your fair assessment of the situation decided i was the one who deserved the ban

Deep Sight:

Madam it is easy to see wisdom in posts that agree with you.

it sure is

manmustwac:

@mudley
It is not easy being a mod you will accuse her of being biased when you feel you have been dealt with unfairly likewise toba dose the same to me. And don't think you were banned i think the spambot got you.

no. i was actually BIASEDLY banned by jesoul

@JeSoul
In the interest of fairplay leave him alone. Many people who have been banned before come back with different usernames and are left alone as long as they don't commit the same  offence that got them banned in the first place.

the word FAIRPLAY does not exist in jesouls dictionary. in one breath she falsely claims that i am FREE to type up my grieviances on the complaint thread or report abuse to the mod, in another breath she THREATENS deletion or outright ban if i should do what she just says i am supposedly free to do. is this north korea or what?

she labels my thread topics offensive but overlooks threads such as "to all the mumu atheist" with actual swear words and outright insults in the title

Deep Sight:

Really Jesoul's my buddy, but her actions regarding the Mudley issue were overly high-handed and showed gross personal sensitivity and bias.

I cannot imagine that in the 21st century, there is something wrong with opening threads questioning the ontology and consistency of a particular world-view regarding God. That is fair-game, and there is NOTHING wrong with the posers raised. If people have a different view, then the reason that this board exists is that they can post their views, and react intelligently to such posers by giving reasonable answers. It is scandalous for a mod to deliver knee-jerk reactions by locking such topics and taking other such high-handed actions.

I have myslef opened a number of threads deconstructing Yahweh, the Jewish tribal deity. Nobody banned me. Same with Mazaje.

See here -

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-434436.0.html

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-438941.0.html

It is thus mind-numbing to see Jesoul taking such unwarranted Gestapo action against threads opened querying the consistency of the nature of God. It is an assault on free speech, and shows a level of personal sensitivity and bias which is unnaceptable for a moderator of a board that is supposed to accomodate varying views.

i am happy someone is speaking up against this outright BIAS and INJUSTICE. i open a thread, her marauding CHRISTIAN e-soldiers invade it with all manner of personal insults and vitriol totally deviating from thread topic, but I GET THE BAN, and my topic gets LOCKED because even if, according to her, my threads were "within the limits of the rules of the forum", emperor kim jesoul personally finds it offensive. but when christians open and makes downright offensive threads and posts against muslims and atheist, laced with all manner of insults and ridicule or condemning them to damnation and generational curses, its okay. you can see in her previous post here how she and her fellow christians are salivating over getting rid of me because i am of a differing belief from them; like they're on a mission to CHRISTIANIZE the RELIGION section or something. she claimed to have read through all the posts before taking action but all she could pick out was one of my defensive response against personal attack on me while conveniently ignoring all the other posts/posters each with every single sentence containing personal insult/abuse/curse words. you can see on here how jesoul, a supposed mod, gloats to her christian comrades on tricks she employs to get rid of non-christians from the forum; how she PMs fellow christians to ignore people of differing beliefs. this is supposed to be a COMPLAINT thread but they've turned it into a buddy making thread were they post pics of foods they wish to send to eachother for christmas

a fellow nigerian (seun) opens up a forum where nigerians can come together and share their opinions, and even differences, but you have here some power drunk mod who decides to use her modship to impose her depostical personal bias in adjudication of the forum laws and biasedly silence others of differring beliefs. what an intolerant prick

mukina2:

The threads were not locked because of there titles.
They were locked and most of them banned because it degenerated into personal insults and fights and that is against forum rules.

so, how come most of the people (e.g TOBA) who INTENTIONALLY degenerated my threads into such (fights and insults) are still here posting and celebrating my unfair ban (even in the process, employing the very same PERSONAL INSULTS you said people were banned for). i thought you yourself said PERSONAL INSULTS were against forum rules. why ignore some and ban others? or i forgot, they're people you guys do buddy-buddy with/christians

toba:

Nl religion section hasn't been the same since Jesoul became a mod and mukina a supermod. its been more action and getting more interesting with gentle iron ladies. lol
We thk God the lu.nati.c had been taking to a psychiatric hospital of Yaba left side in Lagos. Pls doctors let the[b] loonie[/b] remain there for atleast 6 months till he regains sanity. Now there would be peace in this section

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i guess this personal insult-laden post is okay with you because of the obvious ego-stroking he added for you guys

MMW i used to like u before before, but u changed. do u know why i liked u? yea its becos u re non aggressive but i detest u now for being biased. If u can add objectivity into your xter like the ladies, u'll sure enjoy my patronage even though u remain an atheist. If not, hmm, u might not remain a mod by June 2011. Trust me. Anyway God might touch your heart like he did to banom. Thk God banom is getting married this year to his God chosen better half in Abuja. We are all invited

this guy is so confident about the biased favouritism he gets from his fellow CHRISTIAN mods that he can even threaten the non-christian mod with his position. from this post, you can all see what all the BIAS is all about. its all about, you're not on my side if you dont believe in my god