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Travel / Re: The Crystal Service immigration Scam by oienst: 9:37am On Aug 22, 2011
Per the Medical Fees. It's very easy ,  50k as against 200k ,  which will you choose. That's even what really exposes this as a scam. Why will you offer to help people cheat the system? You tell people the 200k price and offer to help them get it at a quarter of the price and you say didn't force them. OKay, you are playing mind games.

I maintain that if you are not a staff of the organisation, please don't talk because you dont have answers. You are just running around in circles and doing your best to convince yourself.

@setto101, am happy you did state your profession and at least you were denied the runs, God will grant you your heart desire if you are still interested.

crystal never told us its 200k, i discovered that on my own. so the issue of marketing the scam is out of it.
setto101, you seems like a logical thinking person unlike the other fool (@justwise), so i will tell you this, if you have friends that did the programm then ask them if the owner of the program is either myself or mario. the principal officer is a lawyer,am a clothier and its good enough for me.
about you telling me not to post here, is it a crime to defend what you believe in? or is this thread just for those that are against the program.  my view is as legitimate as yours!if you are against then i am for the notion until am proven wrong by the agency. i dont think its a sin if you stan for what you believe.



Shameless, i hope your parent knows what you and your elder brother does for a living in Lagos, setting up dubious traveling agent to dupe Nigerians while pretending to be running legitimate clothing business
@Justwise,you are just being stupid and unresonable.i have my path choosen with clear conscience and am not running any travelling agency.my clothing biz is so doing me good.
so rant as you want but i have come to discover that fools like you, when they feel cornered will start going towards address ones parent.although this doesnt mean you will stop it but;stop blabbing on this forum and make a move towards exposing crystal by pettitioning all relevant agencies. at least if the law enforcement agencies are able to prosecute the company it will save us a lot of stress.


@ogundokun,are you serious cause? if it isnt, then you should kindly declare to the house. you know alot of people are pitching their tent on this travel,i havent received any info about that,pls where is your source.
Travel / Re: The Crystal Service immigration Scam by oienst: 8:59am On Aug 22, 2011
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Travel / Re: The Crystal Service immigration Scam by oienst: 8:46am On Aug 22, 2011
House, please tell all this guys that are hidding their profile and using untraceable data to own up and show who they are, because they dont have any reason to call people like me that shows who i am to the world a scammer. i am sure some of the rest of the world can think clearly. so please tell them.
Travel / Re: The Crystal Service immigration Scam by oienst: 8:41am On Aug 22, 2011
Mr Oeinst. I can see you are ignorant of how scam works so I don't blame you but I will educate you. First of all, there is the law of demand and supply. What do people really want? Nigerians want to go abroad. Go to the embassies. You will find out how desperate we are because we feel life is better there. Then people are offered this chance on a platter of gold.

My friend's entire family are in it. I wouldn't call them silly. I'll call them ignorant because if they knew any better, they would know that no country in this world would give you a visa to 7000 people irrespective of their qualifications. No developed economy would do that. That's why  they are developed. They don't need to import unskilled labour. Not to talk of Terrorism and the likes. No background checks, Just a promise to repay ,  Come on

Thirdly, getting people to pay for medical was the way of making money. It wasn't the N1000. You bet the money wasn't receipted. No acknowledgement of any kind.

Justwise and I are not pessimistic. I wish people have the chance to pursue their dreams wherever they want. We are just educating people who are ignorant so that they will apply their lives to something better that waiting for a date that will never come. Just In case you don't know, Winning the American Lottery does not guarantee automatic entry to the US. You still have to meet some conditions.

Please people ,  Anything that is too good to be true probably is.

@setto1010,thank you for your one directional thinking! at least you are civil enough to defend your friends thats nice of you. now i have told you and the rest of the house that crystal never told you to compulsorily take the medicals with them. its only people that dont want to go through due process and dont want to pay the stipulated amount for medicals which is over 200k that paid 50,700 naira,the medical money to crystal.

also i do believe you have been to the canadian websites,then if you have, then you will discover the country is open,and looking for 200,000 immigrant to come and work there yearly. so tell me,what fraction of 200,000 is 7000. also the said 7000 is not all going through the same process its the end game that is thesame.
@setto101,thank God you have close ally that are into the program,what if the program ends up being good dont you think you guys are pushing your anti- crystal work too far? lets wait and see.


Finding out who you are is not difficult, i can dig-out more of your details and that of your brother, you can't hide online when u are into scam like this. shame on you two for taking advantage of naive Nigerians, i know you run a clothing business called Phoenix and Blacq clothiers but pple like you raise money through scam like this to start and expand your business.

There is no secret about Canadian work visa, its all published on Canadian embassy website, you and your brother Mario are just what is wrong with Nigeria today, heartless, criminal minded, get rich quick syndrome by all means. You and your brother will pay for this. . like i said b4 . .Time Will Tell
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@justwise,come on are you so dumb? thanks for the advertisement.but the thing is if you believe am runing crystal or with mario then it can also possible for me to assume you are an armed robber because with the fact sitting before you with what i do then you are really crazy, or (if my hunch is right i think you work in another  travelling agency that is being run down cause of crystal).if that is true,then please do reason with your self and not be stupid.
i have my profile available to all to see at least. if am part of crystal then you can find me but you are still the mindless,sharp,mouthed fool that doesnt have even a profile to show the world if need be,to test your integrity. you r just enjoing causing controversy in this thread cause your views isnt adding any value to the thread.your other anti-crystal at least do some time ask meaningful question not you.
Travel / Re: The Crystal Service immigration Scam by oienst: 1:42am On Aug 22, 2011

oienst aka Tanimowo . . . this is a family business right? You are your elder brother Mariofemi will not get away with this scam. You are not an applicant, you and your brother Mariofemi are running this, a little check on you will disclose more. . . .time will tell.
@justwise,i like the fact that you have taken your time to know my person, Good work!!!i will also give you more work to do, i am an applicant and whether you like it or not its your problem.i am not into any travelling agency i run a very  lucrative business of clothing in fact check out the details about me and then make your accessment of who you are talking to.

@least you can see my profile where is yours so hidden, mieeeeeen you are a big black goat!!.

check me out in other forums and social networks i lay my cards bare.

@justwise,if you think anybody contrary to your thread is as retarded as you then, i think its really getting late for you.



Scam or not i made use of my money not yours and if you are not happy then pettition all neccessary agency to act up.


You are a total nobobody



House, to confirm my person please go check and confirm even my previous  post outside of this thread in clothings in this forum.i beg kindly tell this mindless buffon called "justwise",to act  up like an adult-assuming he is one.

House,my question is this:if crystal knows how to make things happen(its own secret formula), do you think he will explain the details to you? if it doesnt,will that make it a scam?, if you think so then, vertually all humans had been conned because Cocacola never gave anybody their mixture or did google tell you how they made us to fall in love with the google site(least yahoo search was there earlier)and their andriod os.
Travel / Re: The Crystal Service immigration Scam by oienst: 11:53pm On Aug 21, 2011


Mr Mariofemi ,  It is high time you shut up. If you are just a client, why are you doing your best to convince people to get into this scam. Let the owners of the program hire a PR person to quell all doubts that people may have. I have a friend whose entire family are in this program and it will really hurt to see them disappointed because of people like you. Please come of it and allow the right people talk about it.

its quite interesting the way we nigerians see things,a large number of you are against the program and you do go to alot of trouble to discredit it,yet you dont want a man that believes in it to defend it just the way you are negative about it.you claim you have a friend that his whole family is into the program, are you saying your friends are brainless and gutless that they cant judge what is good for them?am sure such people will be wondering what the heck is wrong with you(for it seems u hate them)cos i can remember you saying you pray it will never work(if not you then maybe your chief officer:justwise!



the rest of the pessimistic school of thought,you claim mariofemi is an agent cause he defends the program,what will you claim to say about justwise who is also vehement about his view(or in this perticular thread, its a sin to be for)


Also i want to bring to all your notice that mariofemi never for once said you should come to him, rather he was against the people(agent) that conned your friends,he advice all to follow the path of simple journey of just 1,000 naira for the form. yeah you are all doin the maths of 7000 by 1000, yes but have noticed or heard from your friends that sales of form had ended even submission is up.so if the crystal company want to scam then they should clear now!!!!! but if they are still here then pls let them be.


@justwise,i know you are so into the anti-crystal thing, i just really wonder y we keep argueing about this thing, you claimed earlier that you canot  believe even if they travel to the said canada;then if you are so blind about it, y do u still want to spill your gut on what even if the proof is given to u you claim you will still doubt.

Guys,the people that put themselves up for the program are not total fools,some of them are intellectuals just like you. y dont you all let them carry their cross.They choose their fate and please am happy to give it a try, i remembered the early days of american visa lottery,alot of nigerians never believed it untill later.


To all of you that are looking for my typographical and composition errors: i beg perdon my french!!!!!!
Travel / Re: The Crystal Service immigration Scam by oienst: 7:36am On Aug 06, 2011
@ Siena and Justwise, this crystal services apostles do not worth the dissipation of your time. Your messages and stands on this issue are clearly known. Proposed August departure date is around the corner. Lets keep our ears to the ground. Cheers

@fogman,i am actually of the opinion that you are a plain minded,objective nigerian;because of your previous post.i wish you dont get your self mixed up with some people in this forum that are mindless.i will so much love it if you do exactly what you proposed "Lets keep our ears to the ground. Cheers".

@siena,@justwise,@N101. its quite interesting to see that the finger you point at others also marks you!since you accuse all,that are of the support opinion-crytal agent(with more than one ID),dont you thing thesame can be said about you guys too?seriously you guys are knowledgeable in just one thing-how to create controversy and i suggest you find a better thing to do with your life!!!

@siena,you were busy picking "sms shorthand",typographical and sentence error, whereas you also fall to the same class.as long as a single error can be attributed to you then you have failed in your "super-english crusade".am sure the early post you had that was devoid of errors was first carefully written in a paper and then edited to suit you  taste. but if you are the type of person that types straight from his mind,such errors you accuse poeple of is bound to happen.

Now about some facts all aforementioned names raised,crystal never said applicants should buy uniform from their office because they dont even sell!! the sample colour was what was stated.if any of your friends(or archnemesis) bought the uniform and claimed its from crystal them such a guy had been conned buy another guy trying to make more money just under the guise of crystal.
@ greatolus,i know you may so much doubt the whole process-which is fine, why go to the extreme of saying
based on my little knowledge and experience on immigration i still find it very difficult to believe that crystal service is not  a scam. even JESUS CHRIST cannot convince me
. if christ cant convince you(unless  you are not a christian),then its a big shame on you,


Yes, am privvy to all this info about crystal because like i said earlier i did apply.so i patiently listen to first hand info not reports.

To alot of you that claim you cant believe even if the process ends up being true, then you have no bisness(oops-my bad) in this forum. to others that want to know you will be posted.


if you want to exchange profane words with me,i will just say, BRING IT ON!!!!
Travel / Re: The Crystal Service immigration Scam by oienst: 7:25am On Aug 03, 2011
Your 1st post here and this particular post are contradicting.
1. You said in your 1st post that they dont ve agents, but in this post u ve acknowledge their are agents.
2. Here u claimed that they dont collect money from anyone, but u confirmed in your 1st post they collect money for police report and medical.

Why re u speaking frm both side of your mouth, if there is not more to this?
@Fogman,@justwise, it is obvious you guys are just in the forum to create controversies;
let me try and fill you in again cause your points are not cohesive.AM AN APPLICANT!!!!!

when the program came to my knowledge in january 2011,i was at crystal services office and i met the principal officer,who explained thus:you buy the form for just 1,000 naira,you come with your international passport,a police report,medicals (on your own)and an affidavit that binds your deal with the company.it was further stated that if you want the company to assist you to get the medicals it will cost you just 50700 naira only(if you want to go to the hospital(s) then you are free).after all your documents are ready the you submit to the company. the only legal money you are to pay is the form money. now to the agent issues,the company it self is against the idea of agancy because the self acclaimed agent are the ones rewaping people off.if you have in terest you just walk in to the office not through the agents.

as of the sales of form,it has stopped officially for about a week now and only submission is allowed and even that will end by friday this week. the departure is in batches, and who says the batches cant be arranged for 1000 applicant per week or month.the pay back for the company is only when you have found your way to canada that is when you start paying for their services spread over 2 years.



At this stage and level of awareness that i believe we all are in this forum it is totally a shame if we cant be patient enough to see thing through.




1000 naira is not to much to show you your way.
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