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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by haddeylium(m): 2:17pm On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:


When you are done derailing you answer this question, its never going away, it's a constant reminder of watchtower delusional bulshits

You don't seems to be really interested in the answer cheesy
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by achorladey: 2:22pm On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:


This gibberish didn't even mention 1914 or Armaggedon, I won't even argue your twisted Scriptures that suggessted deciples predicted the redemption of the Jews because contrary to watchtower lies it was only a question they asked Jesus.

But the 1914 bomb was More than just a question, so I ask again how long is a generation?

JWs built an entire doctrine around 1914 so any JW can answer this


Even to use the mathematics of their religious leaders hard them to bring here.

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by achorladey: 2:36pm On Jul 16, 2021
THEWRITERSMIND:
MaxInDHouse why not just answer the 1914 question and set matters straight?

Does it mean there's no answer to the question?

As long as you are ready for the mental gymnastics. The answer will be supplied by them. If that is not in place na OYO you dey.
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by DappaD: 2:38pm On Jul 16, 2021
Splinz:
Thank you, Maximus.You're repeating the same thing DappaD said, which is a lie; falsehood. According to scripture, Melchizedek has no beginning [birth] and no end [death]. Should I listen to God or you? Acts 4:19.
However, I'd accept it for what it is; your opinion or assumption.
Good.
Does the scriptures contain information on "Jehovah God's" father and mother, ancestry and posterity, beginning of His days or the end of His life? Does He even have any?
Thank you.

Splinz:

Thank you, Maximus. Like I said earlier, your opinion on the Personage of Melchizedek is duly noted.


It’s not just the opinion of MaxInDHouse actually. That’s the official stand of Jehovah’s Witnesses, in fact Max quoted from the Insight on the Scriptures book published by JWs.
So do not worry, Splinz you’re free to believe what you want. No one will force you to believe otherwise BUT you won’t hear something different from what was said here by any JW anywhere. Thank you for your time once more.

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Splinz(m): 2:45pm On Jul 16, 2021
DappaD:

It’s not just the opinion of MaxIn.DHouse actually. That’s the official stand of Jehovah’s Witnesses, in fact Max quoted from the Insight on the Scriptures book published by JWs.

That's fine.

DappaD:

So do not worry, Splin.z you’re free to believe what you want. No one will force you to believe otherwise

Oh not at all, far from it. After all, the TRUTH remains. Thank you, DappaD.
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On Jul 16, 2021
THEWRITERSMIND:
MaxInDHouse why not just answer the 1914 question and set matters straight?
Does it mean there's no answer to the question?

Do you think he's interested in the answer or he's just boiling with bitterness seeing JWs chatting with people on social media? cheesy

Well if you want to know it has been answered but your friend just don't want JWs to have the peace on the thread just as his Jewish ancestors kept stalking true Christians in the first century! Act 14:19 smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by THEWRITERSMIND: 2:55pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Do you think he's interested in the answer or he's just boiling with bitterness seeing JWs chatting with people on social media? cheesy

Well if you want to know it has been answered but your friend just don't want JWs to have the peace on the thread just as his Jewish ancestors kept stalking true Christians in the first century! Act 14:19 smiley

No sir you haven't answered the question, all I see is you derailing into 1st century generation instead of 1914.

I have been reading watchtower but this 1914 matter tire me I swear

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:59pm On Jul 16, 2021
THEWRITERSMIND:

No sir you haven't answered the question, all I see is you derailing into 1st century generation instead of 1914.
I have been reading watchtower but this 1914 matter tire me I swear

Well when God sent His only begotten son to the earth He (God) never expected all humans to understand His son.
So it means you need to be humble and sincere before you can grasp the response. If Jesus the Most Wonderful Counselor ever on this planet can't convince all his listeners even when they're seeing him face to face surely you can't expect me to convince everyone in what i beleive on faceless social media! smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Splinz(m): 3:01pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:

Just like the topic of this thread, JWs only study God's word together and AGREE on the outcome of our research.
That's the secret of our ONENESS! John 17:20-23


Oh nice.

However, be assured that UNITY & ONENESS; perfect agreement, is abundantly evident "in all churches of the saints" (1 Corinthians 14:33).
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:02pm On Jul 16, 2021
Splinz:

Oh nice.
However, be assured that UNITY & ONENESS; perfect agreement, is abundantly evident "in all churches of the saints" (1 Corinthians 14:33).

Well if you say so! smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by achorladey: 3:14pm On Jul 16, 2021
true2god:
This is the reason I have concluded that the men at Brooklyn are demonic in nature. When certain elders are not sincere in their dealings then there is a problem.

The writer said:

Whether our religion meets this criterion or not can only be determined by open-mindedly comparing it with the Bible.

The statement above inferred that the Bible should be the standard for our religious authentications which means that his audiences are Christians (whether Catholics, Anglicans, or even JWs)

However, in a classic watchtower demonic cunningness he concluded thus:

After all, the child born to Catholic parents has had no more control over this fact than the child born to Muslim parents’ controls that…

Why suddenly switch to Muslims, an entirely non-Bible based religion? Why couldn’t the watchtower be consistent by comparing the Catholics’ interpretation (or any other denomination) and understanding of the Bible with the Jehovah’s witnesses? I have said it before, and I will repeat it again, the watchtower is notorious for bashing the catholic faith but will also cry persecution at the same time when same is done to them. I am not a catholic anyway but JWs need to stop bashing other people while at the dame time making unfounded claims (1914, 1875, 1975, 1984, etc)

Thank you bros for pointing this out.



JWs need to stop bashing other people while at the dame time making unfounded claims


Na one of their support foundation be the above in bold. The early history of the organisation shows that was among the template they build upon. They had to Keep doing it to make members shut their eyes from what is clear to others or else! grin

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by THEWRITERSMIND: 5:38pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Well when God sent His only begotten son to the earth He (God) never expected all humans to understand His son.
So it means you need to be humble and sincere before you can grasp the response. If Jesus the Most Wonderful Counselor ever on this planet can't convince all his listeners even when they're seeing him face to face surely you can't expect me to convince everyone in what i beleive on faceless social media! smiley

Nobody here needs you convincing them, this 1914 thing is a date your organization said was the time Jesus became king in heaven and cast down Satan to earth.

They also said the generation that saw 1914 will by no means pass away until Armageddon happens.

That's a real timeline with hard expiry date.

So the question is how long is a generation?

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Janosky: 5:40pm On Jul 16, 2021
Splinz:


Oh nice.

However, be assured that UNITY & ONENESS; perfect agreement, is abundantly evident "in all churches of the saints" (1 Corinthians 14:33).
Redeem Pastor & Dominion City wife , on this forum..
SCOAN & CAN

Church of the saints indeed !

Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Janosky: 5:47pm On Jul 16, 2021
THEWRITERSMIND:


Nobody here needs you convincing them, this 1914 thing is a date your organization said was the time Jesus became king in heaven and cast down Satan to earth.

They also said the generation that saw 1914 will by no means pass away until Armageddon happens.

That's a real timeline with hard expiry date.

So the question is how long is a generation?

Are you telling us that the prophecies of Matthew 24:30-34 fulfilled within the 30/80 years time span in Jesus days?

When you get fixated on the 30/80 years , you are going to fight against verses 30-34 grin

The scriptures is filled with prophecies with dual fulfilment time line, Matthew 24:3-14,30-34 is one of such.
When you isolate verse 34 alone, as Maximumimpact is doing, you are definitely on your own.
grin
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Janosky: 5:50pm On Jul 16, 2021
true2god:
This is the reason I have concluded that the men at Brooklyn are demonic in nature. When certain elders are not sincere in their dealings then there is a problem.

The writer said:

Whether our religion meets this criterion or not can only be determined by open-mindedly comparing it with the Bible.

The statement above inferred that the Bible should be the standard for our religious authentications which means that his audiences are Christians (whether Catholics, Anglicans, or even JWs)

However, in a classic watchtower demonic cunningness he concluded thus:

After all, the child born to Catholic parents has had no more control over this fact than the child born to Muslim parents’ controls that…

Why suddenly switch to Muslims, an entirely non-Bible based religion? Why couldn’t the watchtower be consistent by comparing the Catholics’ interpretation (or any other denomination) and understanding of the Bible with the Jehovah’s witnesses? I have said it before, and I will repeat it again, the watchtower is notorious for bashing the catholic faith but will also cry persecution at the same time when same is done to them. I am not a catholic anyway but JWs need to stop bashing other people while at the dame time making unfounded claims (1914, 1875, 1975, 1984, etc)

Thank you bros for pointing this out.



The same Catholic faith, you & the rest of Christendom label as idol worshippers.

As if your Pastorpreneurs don't bash them.
grin
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Splinz(m): 5:56pm On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:

Church of the saints indeed !

I'd advise you to desist from acting presumptuously. Please be guided properly.

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Janosky: 5:57pm On Jul 16, 2021
THEWRITERSMIND:
MaxInDHouse why not just answer the 1914 question and set matters straight?

Does it mean there's no answer to the question?

Matthew 24:3-13 fullfilled in Jesus days.
Matthew 24:13-39 will fulfill and still fulfilling in our present time.

Maximumimpact fixation with THIS GENERATION is out of tune with the holy scriptures.
Or do you mean that THIS GENERATION of Jesus days saw the fulfilment of Matthew 24:14-39 which has largely not taken place?
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by Janosky: 5:58pm On Jul 16, 2021
Splinz:


I'd advise you to desist from acting presumptuously. Please be guided properly.

Oga Bros,the evidence before you, na lie ?
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:21pm On Jul 16, 2021
THEWRITERSMIND:

Nobody here needs you convincing them, this 1914 thing is a date your organization said was the time Jesus became king in heaven and cast down Satan to earth.
They also said the generation that saw 1914 will by no means pass away until Armageddon happens.
That's a real timeline with hard expiry date.
So the question is how long is a generation?

Jesus also said "Just as it occurred in Noah's day" {Luke 17:26} you should know that it's not all those who saw the beginning of Noah's assignment witnessed the deluge but the generation that saw Noah:
© Cutting woods in the forest.
© Preaching about righteousness.
© Began constructing an Ark.
© Gathering animals.
© Collecting food for preservation of lives.
Note that all these had children born during the fulfilment of each step and it cost Noah 120 years before God ordered him to go into the Ark! Genesis 6:3
So the composite sign that began in 1914 will not become history, it will end with the conclusion of this system of things. No survivor will tell the story when all these things happened yet continue without Jesus coming to end this wickedness just as it occurred in Noah's day! smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by achorladey: 6:46pm On Jul 16, 2021
THEWRITERSMIND:


Nobody here needs you convincing them, this 1914 thing is a date your organization said was the time Jesus became king in heaven and cast down Satan to earth.

They also said the generation that saw 1914 will by no means pass away until Armageddon happens.

That's a real timeline with hard expiry date.

So the question is how long is a generation?

It is said that there are 1000 words in a picture. One only need to look that magazine that captures those white heads with the caption 1914 the generation that will not pass away.
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by achorladey: 6:51pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Jesus also said "Just as it occurred in Noah's day" {Luke 17:26} you should know that it's not all those who saw the beginning of Noah's assignment witnessed the deluge but the generation that saw Noah:
© Cutting woods in the forest.
© Preaching about righteousness.
© Began constructing an Ark.
© Gathering animals.
© Collecting food for preservation of lives.
Note that all these had children born during the fulfilment of each step and it cost Noah 120 years before God ordered him to go into the Ark! Genesis 6:3
So the composite sign that began in 1914 will not become history, it will end with the conclusion of this system of things. No survivor will tell the story when all these things happened yet continue without Jesus coming to end this wickedness just as it occurred in Noah's day! smiley

Avoid the merry go round. Why not summarize and say a generation is 120 years grin

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by achorladey: 6:55pm On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:


The same Catholic faith, you & the rest of Christendom label as idol worshippers.

As if your Pastorpreneurs don't bash them.
grin

Thanks for confirming that na same cloth una dey wear grin grin. If you like change mouth, na una mode of operation.
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by achorladey: 6:57pm On Jul 16, 2021
Splinz:


I'd advise you to desist from acting presumptuously. Please be guided properly.

I don't think the person that quote is meant for get time to follow your admonition grin
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:02pm On Jul 16, 2021
The next topic of discussion is about the various gods in ancient times. Before the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob called Moses to organized a people that will serve as His own worshipers! Exodus 3:1-10

All other nations already have their Gods with names, so who are those Gods and how did they become deities worshiped by people in ancient times?

Once again you're welcome! smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by THEWRITERSMIND: 8:18pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Jesus also said "Just as it occurred in Noah's day" {Luke 17:26} you should know that it's not all those who saw the beginning of Noah's assignment witnessed the deluge but the generation that saw Noah:
© Cutting woods in the forest.
© Preaching about righteousness.
© Began constructing an Ark.
© Gathering animals.
© Collecting food for preservation of lives.
Note that all these had children born during the fulfilment of each step and it cost Noah 120 years before God ordered him to go into the Ark! Genesis 6:3
So the composite sign that began in 1914 will not become history, it will end with the conclusion of this system of things. No survivor will tell the story when all these things happened yet continue without Jesus coming to end this wickedness just as it occurred in Noah's day! smiley

You are still dancing around it without arriving at an answer or are you now saying that a generation keeps on living as long as they bear children?

If that's your point then why did watchtower told JWs not to pursue life's ambitions like education, getting married or having kids because Armageddon was going to happen in 1975?

1975 have long past but we still have "system of things" remain the same.

This is 2021, that more than 100yrs since 1914, does it mean watchtower teachings is based on lies?

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Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:26pm On Jul 16, 2021
Janosky:


The same Catholic faith, you & the rest of Christendom label as idol worshippers.

As if your Pastorpreneurs don't bash them.
grin

Look who is saying pastorpreneur grin grin grin

Kettle calling pot black grin

Have you made your donation in your online offering box?

Hop in and pay, GB even accepts cryptocurrency grin

https://donate.jw.org/
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:35pm On Jul 16, 2021
THEWRITERSMIND:

You are still dancing around it without arriving at an answer or are you now saying that a generation keeps on living as long as they bear children?
If that's your point then why did watchtower told JWs not to pursue life's ambitions like education, getting married or having kids because Armageddon was going to happen in 1975?
1975 have long past but we still have "system of things" remain the same.
This is 2021, that more than 100yrs since 1914, does it mean watchtower teachings is based on lies?

You said:

Nobody here needs you convincing them

It's not compulsory both of us see TRUTH the same way, of course you can see it as LIES! smiley

So it can only sound as TRUTH to you when we both have the same receptive mindset!

You want to see something happen before you believe it's true whereas i want to see the evident demonstration of the things i heard in the midst of those adhering to it! Hebrews 11:1

So just as you rightly said i don't need to convince you that JWs have the TRUTH neither can you convince me that what i accepted is a lie it depends on each person's mindset! Matthew 13:23 smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:41pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


You said:



It's not compulsory both of us see TRUTH the same way, of course you can see it as LIES! smiley

So it can only sound as TRUTH to you when we both have the same receptive mindset!

You want to see something happen before you believe it's true whereas i want to see the evident demonstration of the things i heard in the midst of those adhering to it! Hebrews 11:1

So just as you rightly said i don't need to convince you that JWs have the TRUTH neither can you convince me that what i accepted is a lie it depends on each person's mindset! Matthew 13:23 smiley


I don't give a fvck what you believe

Just a simple question doesn't sound like I want to convince you not to believe your shit.

I just want a clarification on how long a generation is, that's all
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:42pm On Jul 16, 2021
Keep asking! Matthew 7:7 smiley

maximunimpact:


I don't give a fvck what you believe

Just a simple question doesn't sound like I want to convince you not to believe your shit.

I just want a clarification on how long a generation is, that's all
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 8:48pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:
Keep asking! Matthew 7:7 smiley


In the absence of an answer I want to ask, have you made your donation @ https://donate.jw.org/ ?

You can pay with Mastercard or cryptocurrency grin grin
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:53pm On Jul 16, 2021
maximunimpact:

In the absence of an answer I want to ask, have you made your donation @ https://donate.jw.org/ ?
You can pay with Mastercard or cryptocurrency grin grin

Surely my pocket will never run dry in the midst of God's people. Amen in Jesus name! Exodus 23:15; Deuteronomy 16:16 smiley
Re: Study The Bible With Jehovah's Witnesses! by maximunimpact(m): 9:03pm On Jul 16, 2021
MaxInDHouse:


Surely my pocket will never run dry in the midst of God's people. Amen in Jesus name! Exodus 23:15; Deuteronomy 16:16 smiley

Lols

Now it's cool to line the pockets of GB members, thesame thing you condemn other churches for doing.

Remember pastorpreneurs?

I got a new word for you: governing-body-preneurs grin

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