StrongandMighty:
I don't even understand what's the fuse is all about... Afghanistan is an independent country make them fight for themselves nah haba!!

I do
China has taken over manufacturing for the world and they produce low quality items
In Nigeria current can fluctuate and Chinese fuses blow anyhow

LordReed:


LMAO! Trump was the one who signed the deal for the withdrawal. SMH.

Not to mention releasing thousands of taliban fighters

UK can take over if they wish

FakeUnity:
Whenever Tony Blair opens his mouth, you can see sleazy, corrupt, immoral and luciferian garbage flying out of his mouth.

Tony blair is so sleazy, he can cut a deal with the devil himself for a few wads of pound sterling. This guy has been secretly meeting with nigerian politicians (especially the northern muslim mullahs) and taking money from them in corrupt deals in exchange for 'lobbying' programs. Yet opens his rotten mouth to pontificate?

If Tony Blair was still the prime minister of Britain when Mazi Nnamdi Kanu was there, he would have handed him over to Sheik buhari's terrorist government in exchange for money.

Tony Blair is a criminal and evil man who should rot in oblivion. He is the Second worst British PM in history after the infamous Harold Wilson.

Yeah u very rite. Blair can take dick in the arse for as low as a dollar

Belawy:
You are such big fool and slowpoke

I didn't expect much from a Terrorist.

LordReed:


China is gaining influence globally and especially in developing nations yet they have yet to lead any on-ground invasion. Global influence no longer requires on-ground troop interventions, it has not been effective for the US since after the Korean war. The reason the favoured currency of international exchange is the dollar is not because of on-ground troop interventions. I am not saying they should adopt isolationist policies, again using China as example their previous isolationist policies had to be modified so that they could participate in the global community. The US has to modify its foreign policies in the same vein and adopt new tactics to maintain their influence.

It's the threat of American military might that has led to its influence, and America has had to fight micro wars and proxy battles to keep that influence, including Vietnam, Korea, the Gulf Wars, Somalia, the Bay of Pigs, Afghanistan and the contra wars.

China may not be fighting any kinetic wars now but that's because it is creeping into places where American influence is receding because of isolationism.

The war between America and China may now not be thermal, but a showdown is inevitable because when one empire winds down, another rises to replace it and it's never always peaceful.

There is an inevitable military showdown between US and China even because of Taiwan, but also because the Chinese and Americans are complete polar opposites in everything, and just like the US flexed its military might to become dominant (including nuclear-bombing Japan simply to show off its new weapons of mass destruction) so also China must wield its big guns.

Why do you think Xi and Putin are spending so much on new weaponry?

SmartyPants:


Allied troops have lost no lives in 18 months

Well it might not be determined if they lost any lives within the period you mentioned but it doesn't mean they didn't lose soldiers one way or the other.
Since the war against the Taliban began in 2001, there have been more than 3,500 coalition deaths, of which more than 2,300 have been US soldiers.
More than 450 UK troops have died.
A further 20,660 US soldiers have been injured in action. The above is an excerpt from BBC six days ago

joshjc:
Mr Blair is part of the problem

Is this not d same guy who joined bush to concoct lies that Iraq had WMD as a pretext for invasion? If u ask him, he would still tell u they made d right decision after wasting thousands of lives, billions of dollars and throwing an entire country into chaos by their invasion of Iraq

Joe Bubuden is the america version of naija bubu

EgunMogaji2:


We have USA military bases all over the world. I just don’t understand the urgency of the withdrawal leading to this clusterfuck with civilians falling off of USA military jets in midair

How's that d fault of d US? What was d job of d president that ran away and his military? Did they do their jobs?

humilitypays:
is 3000 soldiers not thousands of soldiers


You just want to argue for arguing sake, no tangible reason for disagreement, grow up

Are you an illiterate? Kai !!! What primary school did you attend ? So thousands and hundreds of thousands are the same ?

I doubt you finished secondary school

streetsoldier1:
Joe Bubuden is the america version of naija bubu

In what way? How's he governing America?

did the UK also withdraw?

[quote author=YellowbaMoslem post=105054388][/quote]

You really think the west want freedom of speech?
Common example hear in Nigeria: the North want a shari'ah law that will only work for Muslim alone, what has Christians said?

Muslims countries want shari'a, there comes UN, US EU and their threats and sanctions. Is that freedom of speech or has that Muslim. Country says it would be applied to the non Muslims.


For the quotes above and other related verses: in the same Qur'an, killing an innocent soul is like killing the entire human while saving one soul is like saving entire soul, Q5 verse 32

And other similar quotes from Qur'an and Hadith (sayings) of prophet of Islam

Confirm!

YellowbaMoslem:
American soldiers can't be risking their lives to keep Afghanistan a circular state.

The way Taliban overtook kabul shows that Afghan Forces are covertly In support of Talibans, it was so easy.

Let them keep killing women and raping underage girls that have not even started seeing their menstruation in the name of Islam.

Can anything good ever come out of Islam?

MumuHamed (Chaos be upon his name) wherever you are (you are in hell fire anyway) may Demons continue to punish you for bringing this Ebola of a religion to mankind.

My own take is

I don't care what anyone says or opined on biden's withdrawal of troops as besides this move being personal to him(loss of his son to the war) it's just doesn't make any logical sense to be fighting for peace for people that don't want peace

For how long, how much more lives to be taken?

Islam na religion of war make dem continou killing and raping in the name of Allah!

naptu2:

https://institute.global/tony-blair/tony-blair-why-we-must-not-abandon-people-afghanistan-their-sakes-and-ours

US supposed to have stayed in Afghanistan for at least 70yrs to produce a generation already grown used to freedom and by then the many in the generation sympathetic to talliban cause would have died. The withdrawal is immature.

YellowbaMoslem:
American soldiers can't be risking their lives to keep Afghanistan a circular state.

The way Taliban overtook kabul shows that Afghan Forces are covertly In support of Talibans, it was so easy.

Let them keep killing women and raping underage girls that have not even started seeing their menstruation in the name of Islam.

Can anything good ever come out of Islam?

MumuHamed (Chaos be upon his name) wherever you are (you are in hell fire anyway) may Demons continue to punish you for bringing this Ebola of a religion to mankind.

One, name one casualty to US troops in the last 18momths?

Two, it was easy because the US and Britain withdrew 2,500 military personnel which includes helicopters that were providing air support.

Three, US also withdrew 16,000 private contractors responsible for operating US shipped-in helicopters, that supposed to be under the command of Afghan military commanders.......

They simply woke up to meet the contractors gone and the helicopters disabled. They lost because they had absolutely no air support.

The advantage of the Western military in middle Eastern conflict is not boots on the ground, its birds in the air...,,,,,..,

N.B: US has 10times the number of military troops in Afghanistan in South Korea for over 70years. Imagine if they pulled out hurriedly and Kim Jong Un march down south Korea to the ground easily, you will say he won because South Korea security forces love North Korea?

You sef think am

Shimran:


You really think the west want freedom of speech?
Common example hear in Nigeria: the North want a shari'ah law that will only work for Muslim alone, what has Christians said?

Muslims countries want shari'a, there comes UN, US EU and their threats and sanctions. Is that freedom of speech or has that Muslim. Country says it would be applied to the non Muslims.


For the quotes above and other related verses: in the same Qur'an, killing an innocent soul is like killing the entire human while saving one soul is like saving entire soul, Q5 verse 32

And other similar quotes from Qur'an and Hadith (sayings) of prophet of Islam

Yes, if you want to be a Muslim, be a Muslim. Nobody is stopping you.

But implementing Sharia is against freedom of worship.

Why are hisbah destroying Alcohols of non-muslims? Is buying alcohol by force? Why not be a Muslim and allow others be what they want to be?



As for that quote, does it mean Koran is contradicting itself.

One verse asked Muslims to kill, another one asked them not to kill. No wonder Islam is full of confusion.

ehissi:


One, name one casualty to US troops in the last 18momths?

Two, it was easy because the US and Britain withdrew 2,500 military personnel which includes helicopters that were providing air support.

Three, US also withdrew 16,000 private contractors responsible for operating US shipped-in helicopters, that supposed to be under the command of Afghan military commanders.......

They simply woke up to meet the contractors gone and the helicopters disabled. They lost because they had absolutely no air support.

The advantage of the Western military in middle Eastern conflict is not boots on the ground, its birds in the air...,,,,,..,

N.B: US has 10times the number of military troops in Afghanistan in South Korea for over 70years. Imagine if they pulled out hurriedly and Kim Jong Un march down south Korea to the ground easily, you will say he won because South Korea security forces love North Korea?

You sef think am

I'm not saying that Taliban wouldn't have won even if Afghan Forces repelled them.

But it was too swift.

If U.S leaves South-Korea today, you and I knows that it would take Kim Jun Un over 1 year to conquer Seoul. That's if he would even conquer it.

humilitypays:

What the world should be discussing is how to end Islam in general because that religion is a curse to the whole world at large

So, what would you suggest?

why did they not speak out when Trump started the move many years ago. The US government had been planning to leave. Other countries should have rallied their soldiers in Afghanistan to replace the US soldiers.

Everyone is at fault here.

mayormick:
Well it might not be determined if they lost any lives within the period you mentioned but it doesn't mean they didn't lose soldiers one way or the other.
Since the war against the Taliban began in 2001, there have been more than 3,500 coalition deaths, of which more than 2,300 have been US soldiers.
More than 450 UK troops have died.
A further 20,660 US soldiers have been injured in action. The above is an excerpt from BBC six days ago

No allied troops have been lost in the past 18 months. That is not undetermined, it is a fact cited by Tony Blair in the very write up that is the subject of this thread.

Laurene:
keyboard warrior ... Mumu... Your opinion ends and dies on this page. Now run back to your shìt hole in ijebu ode.

What he said is somewhat logical
What you said isnt

Uyi168:
...
Future American presidents will be thanking Biden for this bold move, no matter how botched it seems.

Don't mind them haters, Blair should take the British Army to Afghanistan to continue na.

ehissi:


One, name one casualty to US troops in the last 18momths?

Two, it was easy because the US and Britain withdrew 2,500 military personnel which includes helicopters that were providing air support.

Three, US also withdrew 16,000 private contractors responsible for operating US shipped-in helicopters, that supposed to be under the command of Afghan military commanders.......

They simply woke up to meet the contractors gone and the helicopters disabled. They lost because they had absolutely no air support.

The advantage of the Western military in middle Eastern conflict is not boots on the ground, its birds in the air...,,,,,..,

N.B: US has 10times the number of military troops in Afghanistan in South Korea for over 70years. Imagine if they pulled out hurriedly and Kim Jong Un march down south Korea to the ground easily, you will say he won because South Korea security forces love North Korea?

You sef think am

American boots on the ground are just as competent and deadly

Ramadi and Fallujah are testament to that
If the US troops could identify their enemies
Those enemies are in soup
asymmetric warfare
Where your enemy can spot you
but you dont spot your enemy
Is more difficult

obiekunie01:


some of you are foooolishly rejoicing over withdrawal of America from Afghanistan. If only you all know what that means for every nation in the world and for every sane mind.

TERRORISTS NOW HAVE HOLD OF A NATION - IT MEANS THEY CAN NOW HAVE FULL ACCESS TO WEAPONS THAT OTHERWISE THEY WOULDNT HAVE.

IT MEANS TERRORISTS ALLOVER THE WORLD CAN PURCHASE GOOD WEAPONS THRU AFGHANISTAN AND REAK HAVOCK WHEREVER AND WHENEVER.

BOKOHARAM THE WORLD'S THIRD DEADLIEST TERROR GROUP ARE GRADUALLY INFLITRATING THE ARMY IN THE GUISE OF SURRENDER AND IT NEVER OCCUR TO ANY OF YOU THAT THEY HAVE A GOOD WORKABLE PLAN TO FIGHT FROM INSIDE THE ARMY - 'THE TOJAN STRATEGY'. DO YOU THINK ALL THESE THEIR PLAN IS TO CAPTURE THE NORTH THAT IS ALREADY IN THEIR STRONGHOLD? NAA!

It is for the coming war to totally conquer and capture the south come 2023. They will eliminate all strong headed southern soldiers and it will be an easy ride to obliterate the southern part. Really sad that no body is seeing that.

NOW WITH AFGHANISTAN DOWN, THE NEXT WILL BE LIBYA, THEN SUDAN, FOLLOWED BY GAMBIA, MALI, NIGER, EGYPT THEN NIGERIA ALL WITHIN A SPAN OF THREE FOUR YEARS.

Really sad!

The South should fight for theirself, that's y we are shouting that Nigeria must break, but one Nigeria f00ls didn't see what we r seeing. If worst comes to worst I'll port out to a nearby country. Let the f00lish southerners hindering the effort of those fronting the division of Nigeria handle their mess.

YellowbaMoslem:


Why are hisbah destroying Alcohols of non-muslims? Is buying alcohol by force? Why not be a Muslim and allow others be what they want to be?

Clearly there is no compulsion in religion (not by me nor my Malam, but Qur'an, Q2, V256) forcing to follows a certain is nowhere to be found in Islam. (That is why we urge people to go back the original source)

For hisbah and co, it is body in Muslim Majority Areas ( democracy) to do anything I favour of Muslim there
Pretty sure they can't work in the south even though there is little % of Muslim

GardenOfGod:
Do you think former President Tump would have been this embarrassing to the world?
Your guess is as good as mine.

Is he not the one that made the agreement and set the timeline for withdrawer? This war is milking the US dry both in blood and cash. If they don't want the Taliban, they should rise and fight. You should wait for somebody to fight for you. And is a lesson to other other nations like Nigeria, we should protesting and running to the so called world power to help us, especially against this fulani bandits and terrorist, we should fight for ourselves. The US starts withdrawing and everybody just fold their hands and let the Taliban take over.

lexy2014:


Is this not d same guy who joined bush to concoct lies that Iraq had WMD as a pretext for invasion? If u ask him, he would still tell u they made d right decision after wasting thousands of lives, billions of dollars and throwing an entire country into chaos by their invasion of Iraq

the crisis in the region is because of him and bush

YellowbaMoslem:


One verse asked Muslims to kill, another one asked them not to kill. No wonder Islam is full of confusion.

Why wouldn't you have the contradiction/confusion

Qur'an, despite been revealed in Arabic, the Arab can just read it and understand.

It was revealed in the duration of over 20 years. Battles, treaties and many occasions occurred.
Many of these verse you quoted regarding to killings were related to those occasions.

They were quoted out of context why not the confusion.