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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:32pm On Dec 22, 2021
charlesemeka85:
not know for now but we got nothing to lose if we contact him

Hv followed his game of late and the guy is good and highly rated in italy
I watched him once and I was impressed.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 5:32pm On Dec 22, 2021
Kog45:
Baba,to be sincere I don't rate Zaidu Sanusi,Jamilu Collins,Shehu Abdullahi and Ekong Troost.
same here bro

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:34pm On Dec 22, 2021
charlesemeka85:
dem no knw na cheesy cheesy cheesy

The reason why no one is looking at the likes of ozil,isco,James Rodriguez and coutinho anymore

As an AM in today’s football if you are a liability of the ball and dances with the ball too much no coach needs you in his team. The best they can do for u is push you to the wings

Coutinho that used to play from the flanks at Liverpool and cut in with that his trade mark short ,I see coutinho as a winger despite him being an AM

Ozil has past his prime jare ,Na Isco own Dey surprise me
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 5:35pm On Dec 22, 2021
andrewbaba44:


Coutinho that used to play from the flanks at Liverpool and cut in with that his trade mark short ,I see coutinho as a winger despite him being an AM

Ozil has past his prime jare ,Na Isco own Dey surprise me
ozil pass his prime?him and kross who senior?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:43pm On Dec 22, 2021
charlesemeka85:
ozil pass his prime?him and kross who senior?

No be by age

E pass am quick ,and kroos is 31 while ozil 33
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 5:44pm On Dec 22, 2021
charlesemeka85:
ozil pass his prime?him and kross who senior?

Ozil Senior Kroos naa.

And by the way, prime is not about age.

Someone like Clyne Hazard and Clyne don pass their prime despite being less than 30

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 5:44pm On Dec 22, 2021
Philosopher1979:


Actually Sadiq Umar has 8 goals and 7 assists in 19 matches. that is 15 goal involvements in 19 matchs (75%).
Sadiq Umar is not about just goals, he is a creative forward like el hadj diof of the 2002 world cup.
This is why there is interest in him. His underlying stats are impressive.
He scores, assists, passes and dribbles.
When he does not score, he completes 5 dribbles, wins penalties, creates 3 chances etc in a match.
Sadiq Umar is the most creative forward we have. HIS CREATIVITY IS UNDERRATED.
I MEAN EVEN MAN CITY AND SEVILLA IS INTERESTED IN HIM so we are not fools for talking about him.
He is only in Almeria because his club refused to sell him by overpricing him

As per Nwakali, he as impressive last season as he saved Alcorcon from relegation and was player of the month for his club.
Also, he is now a major part of the sd huesca team. In his last few matches, he was the best player on the pitch



Sir,I totally agreed with you on Sadiq Umar but on Nwakili...NO NO....Nwakili can only come in if Eguavoen is ready to do Maduka Okoye treatment on him like Rohr did with Okoye.

Kelechi Nwakili can only make it base on Eguavoen confidence but on his football assessment for years now,he deserve no eagles call.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 5:44pm On Dec 22, 2021
When will eagles release dier 40man list going to afcon?

Read S.A coach has also released his 40man list squad dt will watch d afcon with him @home cool

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 5:53pm On Dec 22, 2021
elyte89:
When will eagles release dier 40man list going to afcon?

Read S.A coach has also released his 40man list squad dt will watch d afcon with him @home cool

When better preparation meets opportunity. They might be playing in the AFCON you know.

Probably monitoring the situation of things in Zimbabwe who can be thrown out via FIFA ban.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 5:55pm On Dec 22, 2021
charlesemeka85:
not know for now but we got nothing to lose if we contact him

Hv followed his game of late and the guy is good and highly rated in italy

If we don't approach him we won't know if he truly wants us

Let' the NFF make a move and lets see if he is ready for us

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:05pm On Dec 22, 2021
Utonwanne:


Ozil Senior Kroos naa.

And by the way, prime is not about age.

Someone like Clyne Hazard and Clyne don pass their prime despite being less than 30

Hazard cheesy cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 6:07pm On Dec 22, 2021
charlesemeka85:
yes of cause

Do you have an idea of the number of assist Liverpool’s arnord and Robertson gets every season?

grin

... and that makes them AMS?!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Isahalbash(m): 6:08pm On Dec 22, 2021
komekn:


IMO no football brain and or intelligence.

Can I say ABOKI without causing offence.

They are used to it, so it won't be the first or the last.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 6:10pm On Dec 22, 2021
komekn:
It seems a lot of you are CAUGHT UP in a nostalgic era of entertainment football. Where dribbling, showboating without commensurate end product was the order of the day.

Sorry to inform you that FOOTBALL HAS MOVED ON, that kind of football is pleasing to the eyes but will not win you tournaments.

It's now about cohesion, work rate and END PRODUCT, I really do hope that my friend Eguavon is not sentimental and emotive about a bygone era that no longer exists.

It's the same mentality that makes you assess players based on youth football exploits of donkey years ago.

Dribbling showboating without end product is essentially rubbish in today's highly tactical and disciplined strategic planned football environment.

I remember when Mahrez, Raheem, etc did all that dribbling and showboating, they don't do that anymore , it's all about END PRODUCT


There is such emotive bias among many here some are blinded by sentiment based preference not HERE and NOW performance.

In this regard KC is off the boil , essentially out of his 5 seasons at Leicester in the EPL he has had only one very good season the rest 3 and a half have been abysmal. He should be dropped until he finds form for now.

The HERE and NOW forward players are Awoniyi and Dennis they are doing better than Victor O. as it stands currently. Many will not like that .

I really believe after suffering a serious fracture to the face including eye socket he should not be going to the AFCON. He should be allowed to recover properly and get match fit.

Nwakali is a non starter , has DONE NOTHING WHATSOEVER to deserve a call up to the SE, he is not even outstanding in the lower quality Segunda Division.

The hypocrisy and bigoted double standard we show here is mind boggling. When I would mention Nigerian origin players in the Championship, many here will be screaming bias and prejudice. That the Championship is a poor level for the SE.

Not too long ago our arguably best Midfielder Etebo, after a very good World cup went to Stoke in the Championship. I actually expected him to be the next Ngole Kante, but it didn't happen, he was ok but not outstanding in the league. That accolade of outstanding went to Olise, Eze, Ovie, etc

Luckily Etebo is in the EPL playing for Watford currently not too much to report he is injured and will be out for month's.

The Championship is a league where young players leave and go straight to the top leagues and clubs more than any other second tier league in Europe. Omar Richard left Reading straight to Bayern Munich another example.

We have centred on a very few number of players and ignored the rest, players who are not necessarily making waves.

We still talk about Sadiq from the Segunda Division on a very regular basis. Some even compare him to Adebayo giving him all kinds of accolades . He has scored 8 goals in the Segunda Divisions. Elijah who plays for Luton is not in the mix although he has scored 10 in the Championship. Personally I really don't rate both of them as SE quality.

Some have decided to practice quasi tribalism with Nigeria origin players in Europe Vs Nigerian players from Nigeria. Not sure why ❓are some more Nigerian than others. Showing prejudice and open discrimination.

Terms are used like " he is one of our own" etc it's just petty small minded ignorance and narrow mindedness. We even decide who we think is more patriotic in the Nigerian context.


What you wrote as per the highlighted portions is why I hate modern football. In fact, I spend my leisure time watching YouTube videos of old football matches or footballers of a bye-gone era. Like today, I watched Zidane's clips.

The beautiful game has become machine game - stats, stats and God damn stats. It's painful to watch particularly for some of us who watched football at a time when expressiveness was allowed and fused into the framework of productive outcomes.

Today in the the sick name of END PRODUCT beauty has been sucked out of football with an uncompromising viciousness that saddens me, flair swallowed by the aridity of numbers. In the temple of jogo Bonito, an alien god who spits out only stats and money has been erected and is now worshipped by devotees like you. In fact it is like the god of soccer has left the temple for demons of soccer.

As if when football was beautiful, teams did not win.

Zidane was elegant to watch. His haul of laurels tells us that a player can be a sweet, delightful maestro and be highly effective. He won everything of note there is to win in football - league titles, champions league, world cup.


Ronaldinho was a volcanic splurge of beauty and mesmeric speed. He was a winner. He was a unplayable and single handedly decided games.

Denis Bergkamp was a god of the first touch. His goal against Argentina in France 98 as was his goal against Newcastle in the EPL are the works of unrivaled genius. He won many trophies with Arsenal. And so were Maradona, Baggio, Kluivert, Van Basten, Zola and many other great players who played great football and also stood on podiums to receive accolades, recognitions, trophies and titles. They delivered END PRODUCTS and consistently too.

So this artless, cold, soulless football we play today, all in the name of winning is a travesty of the beautiful game. Football is meant to entertain - flicks, spins, roulette, silky moves, mazy runs, golazos, leg overs all go into the mix of winning or END PRODUCT as you tastelessly put it. One should not be sacrificed for the other.

I detest modern football with a passion. For me just as Socrates of Brazil said beauty comes first- victory is secondary. And yes, victory and beauty can be coupled together.

The truth is that it is because we do not have high thinkers that is why football has become so drab. All art is about the triumph of that which is beautiful. And football is an art. Europeans have turned it into a debilitating scientific exercise. I sometimes wish Europe is not the dominating center of world football. Even the Brazilians have been sucked into this vortex of wack football. Thank God for YouTube. I use it to remind myself of an era that is gone. Perhaps one day a generation of coaches will arise who will say no to machine football. But I doubt it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Philosopher1979: 6:20pm On Dec 22, 2021
Mujtahida:

What you wrote as per the highlighted portions is why I hate modern football. In fact, I spend my leisure time watching YouTube videos of old football matches or footballers of a bye-gone era. Like today, I watched Zidane's clips.

The beautiful game has become machine game - stats, stats and God damn stats. It's painful to watch particularly for some of us who watched football at a time when expressiveness was allowed and fused into the framework of productive outcomes.

Today in the the sick name of END PRODUCT the beauty has been sucked out of football with an uncompromising viciousness that saddens me, the flair swallowed by the aridity of numbers. In the temple of jogo Bonito, an alien god who spits out only stats and money has been erected and is now worshipped by devotees like you. In fact it is like the god of soccer has left the temple for demons of soccer.

As if when football was beautiful, teams did not win.

Zidane was elegant to watch. His haul of laurels tells us that a player can be a sweet, delightful maestro and be highly effective. He won everything of note there is to win in football - league titles, champions league, world cup.


Ronaldinho was a volcanic splurge of beauty and mesmeric speed. He was a winner. He was a unplayable and single handedly decided games.

Denis Bergkamp was a god of the first touch. His goal against Argentina in France 98 as was his goal against Newcastle in the EPL are the works of unrivaled genius. He won many trophies with Arsenal. And so were Maradona, Baggio, Kluivert, Van Basten, Zola and many other great players who played great football and also stood on podiums to receive accolades, recognitions, trophies and titles.

So this artless, cold, soulless football we play today, all in the name of winning is a travesty of the beautiful game. Football is meant to entertain - flicks, spins, roulette, silky moves, mazy runs, golazos, leg overs all go into the mix of win. One should not be sacrificed for the other.

I detest modern football with a passion. For me just as Socrates of Brazil said beauty comes first- victory is secondary. And yes, victory and beauty can be coupled together.

The truth is that it is because we do not have high thinkers that is why football has become so drab. All art is about the triumph of that which is beautiful. And football is an art. Europeans have turned it into a debilitating scientific exercise. I sometimes wish Europe was not the dominating center of world football. Even the Brazilians have been sucked into this vortex of wack football. Thank God for YouTube. I use it to remind myself of an era that is gone. Perhaps one day a generation of coaches will arise who will say no to machine football. But I doubt it.

Well, In my opinion, Guardiola still plays beautiful expressive football
and that is why i like him.
He in fact once said he does not play for tackles.
Beautiful football will allways return and triumph in the end.
If you are 3 goals down in a match you might need a Ronaldinho who does not mark to score and create 5 goals for you
and this your statistic will fly out of the window.
Anyway I THINK GUARDIOLA IS AN EXRESSION OF BEAUTIFUL FOOTBALL
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:35pm On Dec 22, 2021
Ahmed musa with an assist

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:36pm On Dec 22, 2021
Oasis001:


grin

... and that makes them AMS?!
I tell you say dem be AM?

What I meant is that creativity comes from every part of the team
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 6:41pm On Dec 22, 2021
Mujtahida:

What you wrote as per the highlighted portions is why I hate modern football. In fact, I spend my leisure time watching YouTube videos of old football matches or footballers of a bye-gone era. Like today, I watched Zidane's clips.

The beautiful game has become machine game - stats, stats and God damn stats. It's painful to watch particularly for some of us who watched football at a time when expressiveness was allowed and fused into the framework of productive outcomes.

Today in the the sick name of END PRODUCT the beauty has been sucked out of football with an uncompromising viciousness that saddens me, the flair swallowed by the aridity of numbers. In the temple of jogo Bonito, an alien god who spits out only stats and money has been erected and is now worshipped by devotees like you. In fact it is like the god of soccer has left the temple for demons of soccer.

As if when football was beautiful, teams did not win.

Zidane was elegant to watch. His haul of laurels tells us that a player can be a sweet, delightful maestro and be highly effective. He won everything of note there is to win in football - league titles, champions league, world cup.


Ronaldinho was a volcanic splurge of beauty and mesmeric speed. He was a winner. He was a unplayable and single handedly decided games.

Denis Bergkamp was a god of the first touch. His goal against Argentina in France 98 as was his goal against Newcastle in the EPL are the works of unrivaled genius. He won many trophies with Arsenal. And so were Maradona, Baggio, Kluivert, Van Basten, Zola and many other great players who played great football and also stood on podiums to receive accolades, recognitions, trophies and titles. They delivered END PRODUCTS and consistently too.

So this artless, cold, soulless football we play today, all in the name of winning is a travesty of the beautiful game. Football is meant to entertain - flicks, spins, roulette, silky moves, mazy runs, golazos, leg overs all go into the mix of winning or END PRODUCT as you tastelessly put it. One should not be sacrificed for the other.

I detest modern football with a passion. For me just as Socrates of Brazil said beauty comes first- victory is secondary. And yes, victory and beauty can be coupled together.

The truth is that it is because we do not have high thinkers that is why football has become so drab. All art is about the triumph of that which is beautiful. And football is an art. Europeans have turned it into a debilitating scientific exercise. I sometimes wish Europe was not the dominating center of world football. Even the Brazilians have been sucked into this vortex of wack football. Thank God for YouTube. I use it to remind myself of an era that is gone. Perhaps one day a generation of coaches will arise who will say no to machine football. But I doubt it.
oga forget this your long epistle football has gone beyond fancy moves, flicks and flamboyant moves

Now it’s more scientific and result oriented so coaches of nowadays do not tolerate players with loads of skills and fancy foot work without work rate

If you like dance the whole pitch but a liability off the ball nothing for you

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by humility33(m): 6:46pm On Dec 22, 2021
Mujtahida:

What you wrote as per the highlighted portions is why I hate modern football. In fact, I spend my leisure time watching YouTube videos of old football matches or footballers of a bye-gone era. Like today, I watched Zidane's clips.

The beautiful game has become machine game - stats, stats and God damn stats. It's painful to watch particularly for some of us who watched football at a time when expressiveness was allowed and fused into the framework of productive outcomes.

Today in the the sick name of END PRODUCT the beauty has been sucked out of football with an uncompromising viciousness that saddens me, the flair swallowed by the aridity of numbers. In the temple of jogo Bonito, an alien god who spits out only stats and money has been erected and is now worshipped by devotees like you. In fact it is like the god of soccer has left the temple for demons of soccer.

As if when football was beautiful, teams did not win.

Zidane was elegant to watch. His haul of laurels tells us that a player can be a sweet, delightful maestro and be highly effective. He won everything of note there is to win in football - league titles, champions league, world cup.


Ronaldinho was a volcanic splurge of beauty and mesmeric speed. He was a winner. He was a unplayable and single handedly decided games.

Denis Bergkamp was a god of the first touch. His goal against Argentina in France 98 as was his goal against Newcastle in the EPL are the works of unrivaled genius. He won many trophies with Arsenal. And so were Maradona, Baggio, Kluivert, Van Basten, Zola and many other great players who played great football and also stood on podiums to receive accolades, recognitions, trophies and titles. They delivered END PRODUCTS and consistently too.

So this artless, cold, soulless football we play today, all in the name of winning is a travesty of the beautiful game. Football is meant to entertain - flicks, spins, roulette, silky moves, mazy runs, golazos, leg overs all go into the mix of winning or END PRODUCT as you tastelessly put it. One should not be sacrificed for the other.

I detest modern football with a passion. For me just as Socrates of Brazil said beauty comes first- victory is secondary. And yes, victory and beauty can be coupled together.

The truth is that it is because we do not have high thinkers that is why football has become so drab. All art is about the triumph of that which is beautiful. And football is an art. Europeans have turned it into a debilitating scientific exercise. I sometimes wish Europe was not the dominating center of world football. Even the Brazilians have been sucked into this vortex of wack football. Thank God for YouTube. I use it to remind myself of an era that is gone. Perhaps one day a generation of coaches will arise who will say no to machine football. But I doubt it.

You're a dexterous writer sha

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 7:07pm On Dec 22, 2021
Kayode scored today

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:14pm On Dec 22, 2021
Danielnino00:


Playing as a 10 doesn't require just good dribbling skills but also good decision making.. Ejuke in my opinion still needs to improve on his decision making..
I don't buy into the idea of using him as a 10.. He isn't familiar with the role...

That is why playing as a teen might help him. Is just like Grealish. He is a natural in playing the false nine role but his final decision making as a wing forward is poor.

That is why Guardiola keeps playing him wide.

I don't believe a forward can not play the creative role. It just takes training and understanding.

If Eguavoen can train him to play that role, he can become an asset.

Either way, it will need patience
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 7:18pm On Dec 22, 2021
charlesemeka85:
oga forget this your long epistle football has gone beyond fancy moves, flicks and flamboyant moves

Now it’s more scientific and result oriented so coaches of nowadays do not tolerate players with loads of skills and fancy foot work without work rate

If you like dance the whole pitch but a liability off the ball nothing for you
Bin this your noise abeg. Some of us still see and want football as an art.

If you can't deal with that then go and sit down in a comfortable bush

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:20pm On Dec 22, 2021
charlesemeka85:
oga forget this your long epistle football has gone beyond fancy moves, flicks and flamboyant moves

Now it’s more scientific and result oriented so coaches of nowadays do not tolerate players with loads of skills and fancy foot work without work rate

If you like dance the whole pitch but a liability off the ball nothing for you
You missed the kernel of my point which is that the two can go together. The thrust of my submission is that at the time teams were not so consumed with statistics, did they not win? For example watch Zidane against Brazil in Germany 06. That was a magisterial performance yet he was highly effective. In fact the only goal of the match was orchestrated by him. And even during the Era I'm referring to, in a team of 22 players you'd find maybe just two or three who color the match with flicks and dribbles. It's not like the whole team is given to dribbling. But today we want to eradicate the few who play with flair and brand them as ineffective time wasters.

It's just a mindset to think that beauty in the way of artistic expression of skills and techniques need not be part of modern football. It has nothing to do with winning or effectiveness.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by nelszx: 7:21pm On Dec 22, 2021
Famocious:
40-man provisional list submitted to CAF by the former Super Eagles gaffer, Gernot Rohr

It looks reasonable though..

https://www.owngoalnigeria.com/2021/12/22/revealed-super-eagles-afcon-provisional-list-submitted-by-rohr-three-new-players-in/
Dessers no dey sha

As Onuachu is injured and out, I just feel he should be replaced by Dessers (super sub)
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Odunayaw(m): 7:25pm On Dec 22, 2021
Mujtahida:

You missed the kernel of my point which is that the two can go together. The thrust of my submission is that at the time teams were not so consumed with statistics, did they not win? For example watch Zidane against Brazil in Germany 06. That was a magisterial performance yet he was highly effective. In fact the only goal of the match was orchestrated by him. And even during the Era I'm referring to, in a team of 22 players you'd find maybe just two or three who color the match with flicks and dribbles. It's not like the whole team is given to dribbling. But today we want the eradicate the few who play with flair.

It's just a mindset to think that beauty in the way of artistic expression of skills and techniques need not be part of modern football. It has nothing to do with winning or effectiveness.
He won't say he doesn't know what you're talking about. Just vain "agidi" attempt to stifle your opinion
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:26pm On Dec 22, 2021
Odunayaw:
Bin this your noise abeg. Some of us still see and want football as an art.

If you can't deal with that then go and sit down in a comfortable bush
Abi the artistic and the need to win cannot go together ni?
Football should be played with high energy, passion, beauty and the drive to win.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:27pm On Dec 22, 2021
komekn:
It seems a lot of you are CAUGHT UP in a nostalgic era of entertainment football. Where dribbling, showboating without commensurate end product was the order of the day.

Sorry to inform you that FOOTBALL HAS MOVED ON, that kind of football is pleasing to the eyes but will not win you tournaments.

It's now about cohesion, work rate and END PRODUCT, I really do hope that my friend Eguavon is not sentimental and emotive about a bygone era that no longer exists.

It's the same mentality that makes you assess players based on youth football exploits of donkey years ago.

Dribbling showboating without end product is essentially rubbish in today's highly tactical and disciplined strategic planned football environment.

I remember when Mahrez, Raheem, etc did all that dribbling and showboating, they don't do that anymore , it's all about END PRODUCT.

There is such emotive bias among many here some are blinded by sentiment based preference not HERE and NOW performance.

In this regard KC is off the boil , essentially out of his 5 seasons at Leicester in the EPL he has had only one very good season the rest 3 and a half have been abysmal. He should be dropped until he finds form for now.

The HERE and NOW forward players are Awoniyi and Dennis they are doing better than Victor O. as it stands currently. Many will not like that .

I really believe after suffering a serious fracture to the face including eye socket he should not be going to the AFCON. He should be allowed to recover properly and get match fit.

Nwakali is a non starter , has DONE NOTHING WHATSOEVER to deserve a call up to the SE, he is not even outstanding in the lower quality Segunda Division.

The hypocrisy and bigoted double standard we show here is mind boggling. When I would mention Nigerian origin players in the Championship, many here will be screaming bias and prejudice. That the Championship is a poor level for the SE.

Not too long ago our arguably best Midfielder Etebo, after a very good World cup went to Stoke in the Championship. I actually expected him to be the next Ngole Kante, but it didn't happen, he was ok but not outstanding in the league. That accolade of outstanding went to Olise, Eze, Ovie, etc

Luckily Etebo is in the EPL playing for Watford currently not too much to report he is injured and will be out for month's.

The Championship is a league where young players leave and go straight to the top leagues and clubs more than any other second tier league in Europe. Omar Richard left Reading straight to Bayern Munich another example.

We have centred on a very few number of players and ignored the rest, players who are not necessarily making waves.

We still talk about Sadiq from the Segunda Division on a very regular basis. Some even compare him to Adebayo giving him all kinds of accolades . He has scored 8 goals in the Segunda Divisions. Elijah who plays for Luton is not in the mix although he has scored 10 in the Championship. Personally I really don't rate both of them as SE quality.

Some have decided to practice quasi tribalism with Nigeria origin players in Europe Vs Nigerian players from Nigeria. Not sure why ❓are some more Nigerian than others. Showing prejudice and open discrimination.

Terms are used like " he is one of our own" etc it's just petty small minded ignorance and narrow mindedness. We even decide who we think is more patriotic in the Nigerian context.



You have some points but you are missing some things.

Manchester City under Guardiola is a team that abides strictly to modern football but we still need that show boating to stand out.

I use the term show boating because we can easily pass out of some of those situations but you still need some skillset to keep the players off position.

Foden, Bernardo Silva, Mahrez, Rodri, Stones, Laporte, Cancelo, are players that show made flashes of brilliance with respect to their technique.

So skills, is even needed more in the modern game than in the past.

To the Super Eagles, when Guardiola blasted the Bayern Munich players for overpassing, there is a term he hammered on. DNA.

He made it known that the modern game is an adaptation but a team must keep its identity.

Even though I share different ideas with Eguavoen, he is right when he points out that we must recognize our DNA. No matter how much we adapt to the modern game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:29pm On Dec 22, 2021
humility33:


You're a dexterous writer sha
Thanks brother.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:34pm On Dec 22, 2021
komekn:
It seems a lot of you are CAUGHT UP in a nostalgic era of entertainment football. Where dribbling, showboating without commensurate end product was the order of the day.

Sorry to inform you that FOOTBALL HAS MOVED ON, that kind of football is pleasing to the eyes but will not win you tournaments.

It's now about cohesion, work rate and END PRODUCT, I really do hope that my friend Eguavon is not sentimental and emotive about a bygone era that no longer exists.

It's the same mentality that makes you assess players based on youth football exploits of donkey years ago.

Dribbling showboating without end product is essentially rubbish in today's highly tactical and disciplined strategic planned football environment.

I remember when Mahrez, Raheem, etc did all that dribbling and showboating, they don't do that anymore , it's all about END PRODUCT.

There is such emotive bias among many here some are blinded by sentiment based preference not HERE and NOW performance.

In this regard KC is off the boil , essentially out of his 5 seasons at Leicester in the EPL he has had only one very good season the rest 3 and a half have been abysmal. He should be dropped until he finds form for now.

The HERE and NOW forward players are Awoniyi and Dennis they are doing better than Victor O. as it stands currently. Many will not like that .

I really believe after suffering a serious fracture to the face including eye socket he should not be going to the AFCON. He should be allowed to recover properly and get match fit.

Nwakali is a non starter , has DONE NOTHING WHATSOEVER to deserve a call up to the SE, he is not even outstanding in the lower quality Segunda Division.

The hypocrisy and bigoted double standard we show here is mind boggling. When I would mention Nigerian origin players in the Championship, many here will be screaming bias and prejudice. That the Championship is a poor level for the SE.

Not too long ago our arguably best Midfielder Etebo, after a very good World cup went to Stoke in the Championship. I actually expected him to be the next Ngole Kante, but it didn't happen, he was ok but not outstanding in the league. That accolade of outstanding went to Olise, Eze, Ovie, etc

Luckily Etebo is in the EPL playing for Watford currently not too much to report he is injured and will be out for month's.

The Championship is a league where young players leave and go straight to the top leagues and clubs more than any other second tier league in Europe. Omar Richard left Reading straight to Bayern Munich another example.

We have centred on a very few number of players and ignored the rest, players who are not necessarily making waves.

We still talk about Sadiq from the Segunda Division on a very regular basis. Some even compare him to Adebayo giving him all kinds of accolades . He has scored 8 goals in the Segunda Divisions. Elijah who plays for Luton is not in the mix although he has scored 10 in the Championship. Personally I really don't rate both of them as SE quality.

Some have decided to practice quasi tribalism with Nigeria origin players in Europe Vs Nigerian players from Nigeria. Not sure why ❓are some more Nigerian than others. Showing prejudice and open discrimination.

Terms are used like " he is one of our own" etc it's just petty small minded ignorance and narrow mindedness. We even decide who we think is more patriotic in the Nigerian context.



Wow, I agree with you!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mujtahida: 7:36pm On Dec 22, 2021
komekn:


Many are still stuck in history , that type of football is will see get slaughtered now.

They really don't understand football has moved on.
We understand full well that football has moved on. It is a matter of finding the direction it has moved to unacceptable. That you accept this new face of football does not bequeath on you more understanding of football than the rest of us who decry the current style of football. And I pretty well know that I am kicking against the goads. That's why I say it's a bye-gone era.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:37pm On Dec 22, 2021
charlesemeka85:
oga forget this your long epistle football has gone beyond fancy moves, flicks and flamboyant moves

Now it’s more scientific and result oriented so coaches of nowadays do not tolerate players with loads of skills and fancy foot work without work rate

If you like dance the whole pitch but a liability off the ball nothing for you



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG8-5rcKe48

I actually think Bernardo Silva is the best player in the world (personal preference) but I think he signifies the kind of flair and trickery of the modern game.

It has a lot to do with intelligence and making fast decisions. Do your tricks fast and get on with it.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:41pm On Dec 22, 2021
Meliforme:


Is Iwobi better in decision making than Ejuke?

I have been reading Ejuke is poor in decision making and i want to address that misinformation.

I am not in any way saying he should man the AM role.
He suits best as a winger.

There is nothing special about the AM role.
Wingers can also dictate play and create goal scoring chances.
Wingers can link the midfield with the attack. EJuke does that for CSKA Moscow from the wings, his speed and technique enables him to do that.

I also want to point out the fact that no player in the current crop has more technique than Ejuke. Even Ebere Eze and Olise do not show the same level of technique as Ejuke.

Iwobi and Ejuke are even better candidates for the AM role than the Aribo some of you guys keep mentioning.

Technique is not step over and dribbles bro, currently Aribo has the best first touch in the world (go and check football manager) and it is an insult to compare him to Ejuke on technique

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