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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:56am On May 07, 2022
Joezinho:


Salah wasn’t a very good player when he was at Chelsea. If you remember vividly, his first good season was with Fiorentina in 2015.

Was Mourinho supposed to play him every week in 2013, even though he was rubbish, and risk getting sacked, so Chelsea could potentially have a good player years later?

It was the same with De Bruyne. He wanted to play every week. But he wasn’t good enough to play every week then, for a team that whose manager was expected to win the PL/CL or lose his job. Weird to blame their sales on Mourinho. Abramovich makes developing players impossible.

It’s normal, managers hit and miss.

All those one is story. Mourinho could not use De Bruyne and could not see his quality. If De Bruyne was with Guardiola then, he will do wonders with him, just as he is doing with Foden.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:57am On May 07, 2022
jihday:
he never said this, just some jobless blogs carrying fake news


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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:04am On May 07, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


All those one is story. Mourinho could not use De Bruyne and could not see his quality. If De Bruyne was with Guardiola then, he will do wonders with him, just as he is doing with Foden.


Leave that one alone

He already concluded salah wasn’t a good player at Chelsea ,someone that hardly gets game time

I won’t even talk of de Bruyne self

Smh

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:05am On May 07, 2022
charlesemeka85:
the same Abraham lampard during his time as Chelsea coach labeled him a championship striker?

If he was good as you stated why did Chelsea discard him just to bring in lukaku? Even it got to a point in the club last season where he was benched for almost 3 months without playing


And what happened to Lampard he got sacked.

Tuchel did not bring in Lukaku.

Tuchel refused to play Tega Abraham and put in his place Werner and Havertz. That season 2020/21 Kai Havertz who cost £72 million scored 4 goals after 27 games and much more game time also Timo Werner who cost £50 million played 35 games with much more game time scored 6 goals.

That season after just 22 games mainly as a substitute and with about 35% of the game time of Timo Werner still scored 6 goals in the EPL.

The previous season Teha Abraham had scored 15 goals the highest goal tally by a Chelsea striker since the days of Conte.

To date Kai Havertz and Timo Werner have been unable to match the goal tally of Tega Abraham.

Sometimes football defies rational look at the transfer fee of Timo and Kai £50 and £72 million. But both of them have never been better than Tega Abraham in any way shape or form. Meanwhile Tega cost Roma a mere £34 million.

Tuchel was biased and there seemed to be other preferences beyond football for his two German country men.

Now they bought Lukaku and that has just been shambolic management by Tuchel can't see him lasting another season.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 8:08am On May 07, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Mourinho pursued Salah from the club. He did not know how good Salah or De Bruyne were, even though he trained them daily. Mata was the best player in Chelsea for two seasons and Mourinho kicked him out of the club.

If it was Guardiola with Mata and doing well, you will say he is shining with a ready made player. Mourinho can enter Manchester City and say Bernardo Silva is too light weight for his football.

Give Guardiola his props. He has done well.

Guardiola has over performed, that is why him making champions League final and Semi Final looks poor. He has set a high standard.

Mou loves managing underdog teams, he was the manager at FC Porto when Benefica were ruling, he managed Chelsea when Man united and arsenal were winning, he managed Inter when AC Milan were kings of Europe and Italy, he managed Madrid when Barca had the best team of Europe or any club( only behind AC Milan's legendary team under sacchi) even though managing underdog teams he brought out the best in them and brought silverware.

This is one thing I don't think Apariola will be able to achieve.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:09am On May 07, 2022
komekn:


And what happened to Lampard he got sacked.

Tuchel did not bring in Lukaku.

Tuchel refused to play Tega Abraham and put in his place Werner and Havertz. That season 2020/21 Kai Havertz who cost £72 million scored 4 goals after 27 games and much more game time also Timo Werner who cost £50 million played 35 games with much more game time scored 6 goals.

That season after just 22 games mainly as a substitute and with about 35% of the game time of Timo Werner still scored 6 goals in the EPL.

The previous season Teha Abraham had scored 15 goals the highest goal tally by a Chelsea striker since the days of Conte.

To date Kai Havertz and Timo Werner have been unable to match the goal tally of Tega Abraham.

Sometimes football defies rational look at the transfer fee of Timo and Kai £50 and £72 million. But both of them have never been better than Tega Abraham in any way shape or form. Meanwhile Tega cost Roma a mere £34 million.

Tuchel was biased and there seemed to be other preferences beyond football for his two German country men.

Now they bought Lukaku and that has just been shambolic management by Tuchel can't see him lasting another season.


Forget bias. People have preferences. I will play Werner anyday over Tammy Abraham upfront. I believe you will play Tammy over Werner. It is preference in style, not bias to the player.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:11am On May 07, 2022
I wasn’t brought to Manchester City to win Champions League, says Guardiola

Pep Guardiola believes Manchester City have already achieved their aims by being contenders in every competition, insisting he was not brought to the Etihad Stadium to win the UEFA Champions League.

Manchester City’s wait for European football’s top club prize will go on after they lost 6-5 on aggregate to Real Madrid on Wednesday following an incredible semi-final collapse.

But in a lengthy response to a question about his players’ chances of ever winning the competition ahead of Sunday’s Premier League game against Newcastle United, Guardiola had much to say.

He explained how the club view success differently from “the people” on the outside.

“I don’t know [if this team can win it],” he said. “It’s a question I cannot answer. Before Madrid, I did not know if we were able to win it.

“I don’t have an answer to all your questions. Football is incredibly unpredictable –— we saw it.

“This is my feeling, maybe I’m wrong: Abu Dhabi didn’t buy this club and invest in these incredible facilities, invest in players, like a lot of other clubs in the world, to be what we lived the last years.



“It’s not to win just the UEFA Champions League. They did it to be there in all competitions, in every season, compete, compete, compete until the end.

“We will try again next season. It will be difficult because the teams are good. I know the people want to be in that way, I accept it from day one, I have to handle it, but it’s not a problem for me.”


Guardiola insisted he “cannot live” for European glory alone –— and suggested Manchester City would be criticised even if they did win the UEFA Champions League.

Asked if the defeat gave him added hunger, he replied: “No, always I am starving.

“I know the people outside here demand Champions League, Champions League, Champions League, we know it, but I cannot live [just for that].

“The moment we win the Champions League, they’ll say look at the money we spent. If not, they spent all that money and didn’t win the Champions League. We are the only club in the world in the last 10, 15, 20 years who spent money.”

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2022/05/i-wasnt-brought-to-manchester-city-to-win-champions-league-says-guardiola/
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:14am On May 07, 2022
He explained how the club view success differently from “the people” on the outside...Guardiola

Definitely. How people feel a man who invested a lot of money in Manchester City is not happy that Guardiola keeps us competing in all competitions season after season and only wants champions league is just a joke.

Very little managers in the history of the game can do what Guardiola is doing and even if they pretend they do not know it, Guardiola has blown everyone's mind.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:14am On May 07, 2022
PDPGuy:
Osimhen has reportedly picked Arsenal ahead of Man Utd….

Players don't pick teams the team picks you .

Arsenal are looking at a plethora of top striker's and so this a a bit premature as well as he is way over priced in my opinion £100 million.

Italian Mafia at work with his transfer fee.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:16am On May 07, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Forget bias. People have preferences. I will play Werner anyday over Tammy Abraham upfront. I believe you will play Tammy over Werner. It is preference in style, not bias to the player.

That's bias not preference it's not anchored on objectivity and player outcome delivery.

Because Tega is COMPREHENSIVELY better than Werner on all fronts.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:16am On May 07, 2022
“I don’t have an answer to all your questions. Football is incredibly unpredictable –— we saw it...Guardiola

It is comical that people are trying to make football predictable. That is, buy players and then Gbam, carry Champions League. Meanwhile Manchester United bought players and this season cannot qualify for Champions League and some of them are criticizing Manchester city and Guardiola for narrowly missing the Champions League final.

They are prediciting Mourinho will carry the Champions League with Manchester City players. Meanwhile he spent a fortune on players and did not deliver the Champions League.

I greet you oracles. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:18am On May 07, 2022
komekn:


That's bias not preference it's not anchored on objectivity and player outcome delivery.

Because Tega is COMPREHENSIVELY better than Werner on all fronts.

That is to you. To me, Tammy can not polish Werner's boots. His work rate is unbelievable. The amount of attacks he makes out of nothing is superhuman. He is amazing.

To you it is just goals. To me, it is about work rate and playing multiple positions. It is about movement and creating rooms for players. Tammy can not offer these.

so it is preference, not bias against Tammy.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:21am On May 07, 2022
komekn:


That's bias not preference it's not anchored on objectivity and player outcome delivery.

Because Tega is COMPREHENSIVELY better than Werner on all fronts.

Werner might have struggled at a point at Chelsea but I will tell you that tega is not better than Werner on all fronts

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:23am On May 07, 2022
komekn:


That's bias not preference it's not anchored on objectivity and player outcome delivery.

Because Tega is COMPREHENSIVELY better than Werner on all fronts.

Werner has registered eight assists for Chelsea in the league this season (11 in all comps), with Kane (13) and Jamie Vardy (9) the only strikers to have contributed more in the top flight.

The German is crucial if Tuchel is looking to play on the counter attack, completing 10 total fast breaks for Chelsea - only Kane (13) has more in the top flight. Meanwhile, team-mates Mount and Kai Havertz (2) are some distance behind Werner, completing very few breaks this season in comparison.

The 25-year-old has engineered nine big chances in the league (13 in all competitions). The only attackers to better that record in the top flight are Kane (14), Son Heung-min (14), Salah (11) and Sadio Mane (11).

Werner has also become a potent weapon in winning penalties for Chelsea. The Blues have been handed a total of five spot kicks for infringements on the German in the league this season. No Premier League player has won more penalties, while Kane and Salah have been given just two apiece.


FROM DAILYMAIL

You need to stop watching football one-dimensionally. Coaches do not watch football this way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:29am On May 07, 2022
Joezinho:


Mou loves managing underdog teams, he was the manager at FC Porto when Benefica were ruling, he managed Chelsea when Man united and arsenal were winning, he managed Inter when AC Milan were kings of Europe and Italy, he managed Madrid when Barca had the best team of Europe or any club( only behind AC Milan's legendary team under sacchi) even though managing underdog teams he brought out the best in them and brought silverware.

This is one thing I don't think Apariola will be able to achieve.

I hope you remember Mancini won the Italian Serie A repeatedly with Inter Milan before Mourinho came in. I think that was after Benitez took over from Mancini. When Mourinho joined Inter Milan, they were the Kings. Not AC Milan.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:31am On May 07, 2022
Joezinho:


Mou loves managing underdog teams, he was the manager at FC Porto when Benefica were ruling, he managed Chelsea when Man united and arsenal were winning, he managed Inter when AC Milan were kings of Europe and Italy, he managed Madrid when Barca had the best team of Europe or any club( only behind AC Milan's legendary team under sacchi) even though managing underdog teams he brought out the best in them and brought silverware.

This is one thing I don't think Apariola will be able to achieve.

Mancini won the Serie A three times straight with Inter Milan. Note.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 8:35am On May 07, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


I hope you remember Mancini won the Italian Serie A repeatedly with Inter Milan before Mourinho came in. I think that was after Benitez took over the Champions League. When Mourinho joined Inter Milan, they were the Kings. Not AC Milan.

Yeah. You are right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 8:37am On May 07, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Mancini won the Serie A three times straight with Inter Milan. Note.

But how did he fare in Europe?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:39am On May 07, 2022
Joezinho:


But how did he fare in Europe?

Football is unpredicatable.

Mourinho could not do it in Chelsea, despite putting in a lot. Went to Inter and it worked for him. That is football. It is not power. You just do your best.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 8:46am On May 07, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Football is unpredicatable.

Mourinho could not do it in Chelsea, despite putting in a lot. Went to Inter and it worked for him. That is football. It is not power. You just do your best.

Well, so far, Guardiola worked with the best teams that can achieve what they achieved with Guardiola without Guardiola as well.

On the other hand, Porto and Inter?

There were managers like Guus Hiddink who increased the level of average teams they inherited, Mourinho may be asserted to be like them but not Guardiola.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:49am On May 07, 2022
Joezinho:


Well, so far, Guardiola worked with the best teams that can achieve what they achieved with Guardiola without Guardiola as well.

On the other hand, Porto and Inter?

There were managers like Guus Hiddink who increased the level of average teams they inherited, Mourinho may be asserted to be like them but not Guardiola.


Barcelona was trophyless for two seasons when Guardiola took over. Sevilla beat them home and away. They were a mess when Guardiola came and turned them to the greatest club team in the history of football. Nothing of Hiddink or any coach can ever be compared to that.

Guardiola changed football forever. Transformed football in Spain, Germany and England. Has the whole world copying his coaching methods.

He is amazing.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 8:57am On May 07, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Barcelona was trophyless for two seasons when Guardiola took over. Sevilla beat them home and away. They were a mess when Guardiola came and turned them to the greatest club team in the history of football. Nothing Hiddink or any coach can ever be compared to that.

Guardiola changed football forever. Transformed football in Spain, Germany and England. Has the whole world copying his coaching methods.

He is amazing.

He had the most glittering generation of La Masian stars at his disposal, and definitely they did have a major role to play on his success.. Apart from shifting Messi in the center, he has not showed any tactical nous..

Rijkaard was the person who had formed the football philosophy..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 8:59am On May 07, 2022
Joezinho:


Mou loves managing underdog teams, he was the manager at FC Porto when Benefica were ruling, he managed Chelsea when Man united and arsenal were winning, he managed Inter when AC Milan were kings of Europe and Italy, he managed Madrid when Barca had the best team of Europe or any club( only behind AC Milan's legendary team under sacchi) even though managing underdog teams he brought out the best in them and brought silverware.

This is one thing I don't think Apariola will be able to achieve.

Stop capping that mourinho loves managing underdogs ,you must think we are kids here

He joined Chelsea because of oil money ,same thing you accuse guardiola of doing

I am sure if a coach takes Newcastle job tomorrow with 300 million available to spend you will open your mouth waaa and say the coach likes underdog just as mourinho took Chelsea job then

He managed inter when ac was king ,be deceiving yourself ,same inter that has won seria A 3 times in a roll before mourinho arrived

Mourinho was a nobody when he was a Porto manager which one is mourinho loves managing underdog ,as if that’s not the best job he could get then .

Madrid came for him 2010 and he went there ,why did he reject arsenal and some other teams not up to Madrid level ?

Be deceiving yourself when we all know mourinho accept a large offer from Abramovich to join Chelsea and we all know who was the number 1 spender then ,but you all pretend to forget just because you wanna troll guardiola

With all the money then why didn’t he deliver the champions league grin

Guardiola is a fraud for now winning champions league with city and Bayern ,where is mourinho champions league trophy for big spenders Chelsea then ?

Since guardiola can only win the champions league with Messi ,what stopped mourinho from winning the champions league with cr7 ? Something ancelotti and zidane easily did grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 9:03am On May 07, 2022
TheGoodJoe:


Barcelona was trophyless for two seasons when Guardiola took over. Sevilla beat them home and away. They were a mess when Guardiola came and turned them to the greatest club team in the history of football. Nothing of Hiddink or any coach can ever be compared to that.

Guardiola changed football forever. Transformed football in Spain, Germany and England. Has the whole world copying his coaching methods.

He is amazing.
oya don Andrew come and confirm this Sha na true say Barcelona was a mess true true abi na fake news grin grin grin from daily mail or marca

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:04am On May 07, 2022
Joezinho:


He had the most glittering generation of La Masian stars at his disposal, and definitely they did have a major role to play on his success.. Apart from shifting Messi in the center, he has not showed any tactical nous..

Rijkaard was the person who had formed the football philosophy..

I won’t talk of Spain because even a blind man knows that ,but you that don’t watch football think it’s only transferring Messi to center

I am sure you are still blind about the changes of football in England
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 9:05am On May 07, 2022
andrewbaba44:


Stop capping that mourinho loves managing underdogs ,you must think we are kids here

He joined Chelsea because of oil money ,same thing you accuse guardiola of doing

I am sure if a coach takes Newcastle job tomorrow with 300 million available to spend you will open your mouth waaa and say the coach likes underdog just as mourinho took Chelsea job then

He managed inter when ac was king ,be deceiving yourself ,same inter that has won seria A 3 times in a roll before mourinho arrived

Mourinho was a nobody when he was a Porto manager which one is mourinho loves managing underdog ,as if that’s not the best job he could get then .

Madrid came for him 2010 and he went there ,why did he reject arsenal and some other teams not up to Madrid level ?

Be deceiving yourself when we all know mourinho accept a large offer from Abramovich to join Chelsea and we all know who was the number 1 spender then ,but you all pretend to forget just because you wanna troll guardiola

With all the money then why didn’t he deliver the champions league grin

Stop foaming in the mouth and answer this question. " Can Apariola build a squad with limited budget?" grin cheesy

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joezinho: 9:09am On May 07, 2022
andrewbaba44:


I won’t talk of Spain because even a blind man knows that ,but you that don’t watch football think it’s only transferring Messi to center

I am sure you are still blind about the changes of football in England

Oh, I forgot!! He went unbeaten all season. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:09am On May 07, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
oya don Andrew come and confirm this Sha na true say Barcelona was a mess true true abi na fake news grin grin grin from daily mail or marca

They didn’t win any trophy for 2 seasons though

Came 3rd with 10 point behind Villarreal before pep took over
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:12am On May 07, 2022
Joezinho:


Stop foaming in the mouth and answer this question. " Can Apariola build a squad with limited budget?" grin cheesy

As usual trying to run away after I exposed him

Barca was built with what ?

Busquets pique Pedro Thiago alcantara Keita mascherano all cost 1 billion together

Wetin I talk about mourinho na lie abi Na true cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TFLASHOGEE(m): 9:13am On May 07, 2022
andrewbaba44:


They didn’t win any trophy for 2 seasons though

Came 3rd with 10 point behind Villarreal before pep took over
so truely they where mess according to blue font prof grin cheesy grin but I know say if na emekus call Barcelona mess you go don turn the meme below grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:15am On May 07, 2022
Joezinho:


Oh, I forgot!! He went unbeaten all season. grin

Has any team even win 18 games in a roll ,even Bayern no do am for bundesliga grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 9:15am On May 07, 2022
TFLASHOGEE:
so truely they where mess according to blue font prof grin cheesy grin but I know say if na emekus call Barcelona mess you go don turn the meme below grin grin

They aren’t in a mess .

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