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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 3:29pm On May 20, 2022
gallivant:


Ghana is not a tourism destination. Go confuse Nigerians.
yet Ghana receives more tourist than Kenya and earns more from tourism than Kenya.

Has that sank in now?

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 3:35pm On May 20, 2022
Just40:
yet Ghana receives more tourist than Kenya and earns more from tourism than Kenya.

Has that sank in now?

Go fool Nigerians. You don't have the infrastructure to cater for half the number of tourists we receive.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 3:41pm On May 20, 2022
gallivant:


Go fool Nigerians. You don't have the infrastructure to cater for half the number of tourists we receive.
grin grin grin

Dream on in your frustration

Anyway, I love dreamers grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 5:22pm On May 20, 2022
Shma:


Why are you talking about the basics, which are more of a primary need - and compulsory for survival?

Let's try and talk about things that improve aesthetics & modernity.

Technology & skyscrapers are important in the modern world. Although, that does not entirely mean that skyscrapers are the only tools that define modernization or development as you may put. Some countries have invested heavily in Tech cities with low-rise buildings, and they are doing pretty much better than the majority of African nations with skyscrapers.

We should also not overlook the fact that the most developed city in the world is filled with skyscrapers - and pioneered by skyscrapers.
Same case in Africa. I believe Johannesburg is the most developed city in Africa, and at the same time, it's the only city with the highest number of Tall buildings - skyscrapers.
skyscrapers are majorly built for functionality, and little modernity, it's only in Kenya, Nairobi to be precise, that's makeu Kenyans seem skyscrapers are something special. Though, it makes a city looks a bit developed, and that's not all development entails.

And no, not most developed cities around the world are filled with skyscrapers. If I'm correct, hong-kong has the most skyscrapers In the world, and I don't think it ranks better than London in development.... For example.

And hey, cape-town is more developed and beautiful than jobourg, with less skyscrapers... According to different sources, but I can't tamper with ur belief, anyway. wink

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 6:14pm On May 20, 2022
theenchanter:
skyscrapers are majorly built for functionality, and little modernity , it's only in Kenya, Nairobi to be precise, that's makeu Kenyans seem skyscrapers are something special. Though, it makes a city looks a bit developed, and that's not all development entails.

And no, not most developed cities around the world are filled with skyscrapers. If I'm correct, hong-kong has the most skyscrapers In the world, and I don't think it ranks better than London in development.... For example.

And hey, cape-town is more developed and beautiful than jobourg, with less skyscrapers... According to different sources, but I can't tamper with ur belief, anyway. wink
You've just underscored my sentiments. Then sum it up with your prejudice submission towards Kenyans, as usual.

Psychology rule 001. Beat your opponent with something they don't seem to have or do better, then wait for a rebuttal... Some of the feedback will be sickening; like what you just did from your prosaic state of mind.

For the umpteenth time, skyscrapers are not the only infrastructure that measures development. I've said this several times... I don't understand why you're this slow? What I said is what you have just said in your long write-up.

Johannesburg is the most developed city in Africa, while cape town is the most beautiful. Although, development is ambiguous. Capetown might be the most developed in terms of HDI.

London!

Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Balogunodua(m): 6:34pm On May 20, 2022
Shma:

You've just underscored my sentiments. Then sum it up with your prejudice submission towards Kenyans, as usual.

Psychology rule 001. Beat your opponent with something they don't seem to have or do better, then wait for a rebuttal... Some of the feedback will be sickening; like what you just did, from your prosaic state of mind.

For the umpteenth time, skyscrapers are not the only infrastructure that measures development. I've said this several times... I don't understand why you're this slow? What I said is what you have just said in your long write-up.

Johannesburg is the most developed city in Africa, while cape town is the most beautiful.

London!
The question is...does skyscraper equals development Or most a city have skyscrapers to become developed.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 6:38pm On May 20, 2022
Balogunodua:

The question is...does skyscraper equals development Or most a city have skyscrapers to become developed.
just imagine someone trying to argue that Nairobi is more developed and beautiful than Sicily because of skyscraper grin grin grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Balogunodua(m): 6:44pm On May 20, 2022
Just40:
just imagine someone trying to argue that Nairobi is more developed and beautiful than Sicily because of skyscraper grin grin grin
Or Sweden grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 6:49pm On May 20, 2022
Just40:
I think we both know that Ghana's quality of life is far above that of Kenya in various reports spanning 30 years.

So what's this joke about again?


The middle class in Ghana is almost 15 million which is 3 times of Kenya's. That explains why properties in Kenya largely remain empty and largely dependent on tourist short stay.

Almost 15m but not 15m - I guess it's 12m, cos you exaggerate a lot of things. Kenya's middle-income population is 23m - the percentage rate is more or less 45% based on 2017 data.


https://oxfordbusinessgroup.com/analysis/top-shelf-growing-middle-class-encouraging-consumer-goods-producers
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 6:52pm On May 20, 2022
Balogunodua:

The question is...does skyscraper equals development Or most a city have skyscrapers to become developed.
Do you have glaucoma?

How can a skyscraper equate to development? Even if you're dumb, you can't make such a submission!

A skyscraper is just a complex - more expensive building ( ofc superior to any dwarf cheap houses integrated all over Lagos )
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 6:58pm On May 20, 2022
Balogunodua:

Or Sweden grin
Landon is more developed than Newyork, despite New York having more skyscrapers than her.

Barcelona is more developed than Johannesburg, despite Joburg having more skyscrapers than her.

What I'm saying is, don't compare African cities with European, Asian, or western cities. Compare Africa with Africa. Like, a city in sub-Saharan Africa With no skyscrapers is a sh*thole a zoo and underdeveloped.
Lagos is better than any west African city by virtue of it having skyscrapers. It sets a certain unique landmark in town.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Balogunodua(m): 7:07pm On May 20, 2022
Shma:
Do you have glaucoma?

How can a skyscraper equate to development? Even if you're dumb, you can't make such a submission!

A skyscraper is just a complex - more expensive building ( ofc superior to any dwarf cheap houses integrated all over Lagos )
Why the sudden wailing and ranting....I only asked a question and you have started wailing cheesy

dwarf integrated buildings in Lagos is far better than the integrated slums all over Nairobi...

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Balogunodua(m): 7:09pm On May 20, 2022
Shma:

Landon is more developed than Newyork, despite New York having more skyscrapers than her.

Barcelona is more developed than Johannesburg, despite Joburg having more skyscrapers than her.

What I'm saying is, don't compare African cities with European, Asian, or western cities. Compare Africa with Africa. Like, a city in sub-Saharan Africa With no skyscrapers is a sh*thole a zoo and underdeveloped.
Lagos is better than any west African city by virtue of it having skyscrapers. It sets a certain unique landmark in town.
My point has been made...
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 7:11pm On May 20, 2022
Balogunodua:

[s]Why the sudden wailing and ranting....I only asked a question and you have started wailing cheesy

dwarf integrated buildings in Lagos are far better than the integrated slums all over Nairobi[/s]...
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 7:12pm On May 20, 2022
Balogunodua:

My point has been made...
Good. smiley
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Balogunodua(m): 7:15pm On May 20, 2022
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Balogunodua(m): 7:17pm On May 20, 2022
Shma:

Good. smiley

A city in Africa or the world doesn't need skyscraper to be developed... grin and I'm glad we all accept this fact... grin
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 7:18pm On May 20, 2022
Shma:
UK has just unveiled the final design of the central railway station - in Nairobi. The station will also link an electric commuter train to JKIA.

Lol story for the freaking gods
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 7:20pm On May 20, 2022
Shma:


Why are you talking about the basics, which are more of a primary need - and compulsory for survival?

Let's try and talk about things that improve aesthetics & modernity.

Technology & skyscrapers are important in the modern world. Although, that does not entirely mean that skyscrapers are the only tools that define modernization or development as you may put. Some countries have invested heavily in Tech cities with low-rise buildings, and they are doing pretty much better than the majority of African nations with skyscrapers.

We should also not overlook the fact that the most developed city in the world is filled with skyscrapers - and pioneered by skyscrapers.
Same case in Africa. I believe Johannesburg is the most developed city in Africa, and at the same time, it's the only city with the highest number of Tall buildings - skyscrapers.

Ode
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 7:43pm On May 20, 2022
Shma:

You've just underscored my sentiments. Then sum it up with your prejudice submission towards Kenyans, as usual.

Psychology rule 001. Beat your opponent with something they don't seem to have or do better, then wait for a rebuttal... Some of the feedback will be sickening; like what you just did from your prosaic state of mind.

For the umpteenth time, skyscrapers are not the only infrastructure that measures development. I've said this several times... I don't understand why you're this slow? What I said is what you have just said in your long write-up.

Johannesburg is the most developed city in Africa, while cape town is the most beautiful. Although, development is ambiguous. Capetown might be the most developed in terms of HDI.

London!
look, u're neigher here not there with ur submission. Take a look at what u posted earlier, which I replied to.
Shma:


Why are you talking about the basics, which are more of a primary need - and compulsory for survival?

Let's try and talk about things that improve aesthetics & modernity.

Technology & skyscrapers are important in the modern world. Although, that does not entirely mean that skyscrapers are the only tools that define modernization or development as you may put. Some countries have invested heavily in Tech cities with low-rise buildings, and they are doing pretty much better than the majority of African nations with skyscraper.

We should also not overlook the fact that the most developed city in the world is filled with skyscrapers - and pioneered by skyscrapers.
Same case in Africa. I believe Johannesburg is the most developed city in Africa, and at the same time, it's the only city with the highest number of Tall buildings - skyscrapers.
ur argument about skyscrapers equaling development is emboldened for u to see, ur argument being d opposite is highlighted in italics.

Taking a look at the highlighted submissions, one doesn't need a seer to tell where ur logic lies.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by theenchanter: 7:49pm On May 20, 2022
Just40:
just imagine someone trying to argue that Nairobi is more developed and beautiful than Sicily because of skyscraper grin grin grin
someone that's not feeling fine.

I once read an article where Kenyan govt ask an American company or so to build a 50+ building in Nairobi and I instantly pardoned their bias toward skyscrapers.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 8:06pm On May 20, 2022
Shma:

Landon is more developed than Newyork, despite New York having more skyscrapers than her.

Barcelona is more developed than Johannesburg, despite Joburg having more skyscrapers than her.

What I'm saying is, don't compare African cities with European, Asian, or western cities. Compare Africa with Africa. Like, a city in sub-Saharan Africa With no skyscrapers is a sh*thole a zoo and underdeveloped.
Lagos is better than any west African city by virtue of it having skyscrapers. It sets a certain unique landmark in town.


Lol you are a fool. I guess Algiers,Casablanca,Rabat,Tuniare shiit hole zoo for not having skyscrapers. Lol the same Casablanca that humbles anything in Kenya .

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 8:13pm On May 20, 2022

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 8:52pm On May 20, 2022
theenchanter:
someone that's not feeling fine.

I once read an article where Kenyan govt ask an American company or so to build a 50+ building in Nairobi and I instantly pardoned their bias toward skyscrapers.
Kenyans seem to be in love with skyscrapers. To me, trams and rails in a city are way better infrastructures with insurmountable economic benefits.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:53pm On May 20, 2022
theenchanter:
look, u're neither here not there with ur submission. Take a look at what u posted earlier, which I replied to.
ur argument about skyscrapers equaling development is emboldened for u to see, ur argument being d opposite is highlighted in italics.

Taking a look at the highlighted submissions, one doesn't need a seer to tell where ur logic lies.

Read to understand... don't rush.

There is nowhere in my sentiment where I've equated skyscrapers to development. What I said was that skyscrapers are NOT THE ONLY tool for development measurement but it's also part of development.


"Technology & skyscrapers are important in the modern world. Although, that does not entirely mean that skyscrapers are the only tools that define modernization or development as you may put . "
If we decompound the emboldened, you'll realize that there are so many yardsticks for measuring development including but not limited to skyscrapers, roads, or apartments as it was said.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:55pm On May 20, 2022
Skyscrappers and apartments first are best use of urban land to avoid urban sprawl and traffic jams like Lagos.
Secondly skycrappers are mostly offices - and built by private developers.
They built it because there is huge demand for office space - and the land is pretty expensive - and they want to build so many units.
Apart from communist regime - like Tanzania - or Abuja planned cities - cities like Nairobi develops organically.
Someone comes, study office or hotel or residential demand, and built them. Nobody ask them - it's real estate market and their money.
That is effective demand. You will find Laogs has oversupply because there are that NOT many formal jobs being generated to occupy such buildings. And of course running a generator the whole day for lifts to work isnt funny.

Of course govs regulate the heights of buildings...and can decide to disallow tall buildings for any reasons.

Balogunodua:

The question is...does skyscraper equals development Or most a city have skyscrapers to become developed.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 8:55pm On May 20, 2022
samorobo:



Lol you are a fool. I guess Algiers,Casablanca,Rabat,Tuniare shiit hole zoo for not having skyscrapers. Lol the same Casablanca that humbles anything in Kenya .
Another typical west African bonobo... Who is yet to learn what sub-Saharan mean.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 8:58pm On May 20, 2022
I bet if they allowed it - they would built. The reason skycrappers are not built in developed world is because getting permits is almost impossible. Nigeria has no such excuses. Nobody has wanted to build and gov said nope...you can only build this height. You're not buiding it because there is no demand for office space.
samorobo:



Lol you are a fool. I guess Algiers,Casablanca,Rabat,Tuniare shiit hole zoo for not having skyscrapers. Lol the same Casablanca that humbles anything in Kenya .

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 9:01pm On May 20, 2022
GeneralDae:

Kenyans seem to be in love with skyscrapers. To me, trams and rails in a city are way better infrastructures with insurmountable economic benefits.
Trams are the best too.... I respect your preference. Kenya is setting up trams in less than 4yrs to come. Maybe it will be the first one in sub-Saharan - I don't know about SA. I believe Morocco and tunis have already achieved that.
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:02pm On May 20, 2022
Balogunodua:

Or Sweden grin
grin grin

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:03pm On May 20, 2022
Private sector build skyscrappers. Gov rarely. Gov is suppose to built tram and rails. There are thefore not mutually exclusive. The money for building office blocks is not from gov coffers.
GeneralDae:

Kenyans seem to be in love with skyscrapers. To me, trams and rails in a city are way better infrastructures with insurmountable economic benefits.

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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 9:05pm On May 20, 2022
[s]
Shma:


Almost 15m but not 15m - I guess it's 12m, cos you exaggerate a lot of things. Kenya's middle-income population is 23m - the percentage rate is more or less 45% based on 2017 data.


https://oxfordbusinessgroup.com/analysis/top-shelf-growing-middle-class-encouraging-consumer-goods-producers
[/s] usual nonsense

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