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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:33pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
KaziKazi - without Kenya - you'd still be like Nigeria or Ghana - producing low tech agriculture. State-owned Kenya Seed Company Ltd (Kenya Seed Company) researches, develops and markets field crops and vegetable seeds, alongside the sale of pesticides and fertilizers. It was incorporated in 1956, and in 1979 it acquired Simpson and White Law, a vegetable seed company that trades under the brand name Simlaw Seeds. Kenya Seed Company also established the brands Kibo in Tanzania and Simlaw Seeds (Uganda) in Uganda. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 9:33pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018:Yes that is primary or basics of manufacturing. Of course there are many other factors,but I mentioned the basics.I cant fill up the page mentioning ever thing including little things. And in whichever angle u try to look at,you can't make it into a real manufacturing if those factors are not into place. That's a reason why countries like Kenya are now struggling. You import too many things. What I have noticed,most of you kiberans think manufacturing can work by just doing theories and speak a word kenya in all social media's and internet and load it with fake stats. China didn't do that, Korea didn't, Vietnam didn't either.But it's only u Kenyans and some madmen from Africa think you can be an industrialized economy without a robust agriculture, without reliable and affordable power,without peace in your country,without low cost labour,and with all those high levels of corruption. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:36pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Ethiopia is hopeless - landlocked. Nearly all manufacturing has to happen at coastline - anything else is not scalable - logistic wise. Tanzania is even more hopeless because they are just lazy. African countries with coastline should develop free port linked to SEZ - if they have EXCESS LABOUR. Africa population doesnt generally have excess labour - it's still very youthful. kenya for example has abou 15M people - who are working age but half are farmers - so you're talking about 8 million people - remove traders and all that - you have real working population of 4 million spread in wide area. Cities like Lagos have that opportunity - that likes of Dhaka and Veitnam cities have - If they can fix basic stuff. If Lagos can turn Lekki deep sea and sorrounding into SEZ - they can get manufacturing for export going. But stupid Nigeria gov is focused on ABUJA - hopeless Potemkin village that is USSR/Russia like. If Lagos get the Deep Sea Port - give it to chinese to run it , give Lekki as SEZ with it's own electricity, security, taxes, laws and etc, and make it special economic zone - it has the ingredient for a successfully manufacturing hub - they will have huge desperate labour force - willing to sweat in manufacturing sweatshops - and with AGOA - few kilometres from the US shores - they will be very successful GeneralDae: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 9:36pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018: Avocado are one of our small food items we export |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:38pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
GeneralDae: This is why? ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:39pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:44pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Kazikazi: Actually you are one poorest country in the world. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 9:45pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
crazyiguana:Twyford is owned by Jack feng who started a ceramic factory in Tz and exporting to kenya and Uganda, from there,he opened a factory in Kenya ugand and now I believe he is opening in Ghana,but the Tanzanian factory is the biggest tile factory in subsaharan Africa. Before the inauguration of the factory in Tz..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XhHBVymEqo&t=89s 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 9:49pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Kazikazi: What are you doing to fix the balance in trade? Do you think Jack Feng can help? ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:51pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018:Stop speaking from your ass. Do your research first. According to the report, ‘Sustainable Agricultural Mechanization: A Framework for Africa’, published last year by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, in 2000 the tractors in use in Africa were concentrated in a small number of countries, with 70% in South Africa and Nigeria. https://www.farmersweekly.co.za/opinion/blog/letter-from-the-editor/a-turning-point-for-tractor-use-in-africa/ 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 9:55pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
One data source. Mechanisation: World moves without Nigeria - Businessday NGhttps://businessday.ng › agriculture › article › mechanis... Mar 6, 2019 — Kenya had 25 tractors per 100 square kilometres of arable land in 2009 while Nigeria has almost seven, according to the most recent data . Now if you consider that arable land in Kenya is tiny sliver - ![]() GeneralDae: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by samorobo: 10:05pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018: Lol you are quoting 2019 ,he is quoting recent update. I think we got massive supply of tractor from Brazil in 2020(post covid) and that surged the numbers. You are just ignorant and stupid . 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:05pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018:You said after South Africa, you have the second ownership of tractors in Africa, now you are reducing it to just tractors per arable land ![]() The question is: How many tractors are in Kenya altogether? 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:08pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
I think so; I am not certain; but suspect it Look like you have only 7,000 active tractors - about 50k including broken down ones; ![]() GeneralDae: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:10pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018:Stop suspecting. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:11pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018:So how many is in Kenya? and show me where it is second in Africa? |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:15pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Based on the tractor per area - definitely 3 times more. GeneralDae: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 10:17pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
GeneralDae:Signs? Which signs again? If you look at ethio and Tz let's say 10 to 15 years back,they had almost zero manufacturing. In Tz we were getting almost all products from kenya,SA,or China. But now,Alot more have changed,these are signs. Even when we check on our current Fdi figures,manufacturing have attracted more monies than mining for the first time. In latest figures,we have over 2b probably poured in manufacturing out of 4b in total Fdi for the past 12 monthsThese figures are not yet punlished .So all signs are there. I think we should try to look at the things to come rather than on past history. If we base on a historical figures,no one in africa will ever overpass S.A. in manufacturing.But in real sense,SA has a huge hurdles to overcome for her to remain where it is now. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:19pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
samorobo: Nothing has changed in Nigeria since 2019. Maybe just the poverty rates and inflation but Nigeria of 2019 was a better zoo than today. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:21pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
GeneralDae: You want absolute numbers? Are you okay in your head? What would that prove? ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:23pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
gallivant: You cared enough to even mention Avocado which we export insignificant amounts, it's not a priority crop When talking FOOD exports avocado is insignificant that it's never part of the convo |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 10:24pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
gallivant:Yes jack feng will help.Is a communist just like us.Actually as we speak,he is erecting Africa's biggest glass factory in Tanzania. Anyway,you love history. I see u stopped on 2016. That is when things have started to go in opposite directions https://www.thecitizen.co.tz/tanzania/news/national/tanzania-topples-south-africa-as-kenya-s-top-source-of-imports-in-africa-3811708 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 10:26pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Kazikazi:I asked you those questions because I believe your criterias on what should make an African country a top manufacturer of finished goods in Africa were not sufficient. Many countries in Africa have also improved in their manufacturing from 15 to 20 years ago. To show us that your theory works, show me a graph or statistics that compares the growth of Ethiopia and Tanzania to that of other African countries. Then we can compare and say Ethiopia and Tanzania received more attention from our white Daddies. Also while I agree we need the white Daddies for manufacturing, africans from abroad can also bring investments and africans on ground are smart too, if we can tweak/improve drastically the education system of the africans on ground. The African countries with the best and most probably unconventional educational system should give us a more accurate picture on this trend of the future top manufacturers in Africa. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by rvp2018: 10:29pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
At Midnight... President Ruto. Just finished the final meeting at Harambee House.... In 5yrs Kazikazi and the lazy bones will be thinking what hell happened Goodnight 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:31pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
AfriqueDuZuid: You thought Kenya only exports tea and coffee. Now, you are left holding your balls in your hand wondering where you went wrong.... ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:36pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Kazikazi: I don't need to argue with you. ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 10:39pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
gallivant: I said over 90% of your agri exports is tea, coffee and flowers and I'm still correct |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by gallivant: 10:49pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
AfriqueDuZuid: Keep crying, until you feel better. Then log off. ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:47pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018:the exporter gets only 30% of it and the retail gets the rest plus transport. I think we all know cereal cost more, 300% more |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by ProblemChild1: 11:50pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Victoria Island at night 3 Likes
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Just40: 11:52pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
rvp2018:Are you referring to the same Ghana that decided it didn't need it and is dragging it feet at negotiation? Kenya needs it more hence the double subscription. Without it there won't be a Kenya. If Ghana needed 3 billion, it could simply have gotten it 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by ProblemChild1: 11:52pm On Oct 11, 2022 |
Lagos 1 Like
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