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Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by guysbewise: 6:36pm On Dec 03, 2022
JESUS Christ was a fictional character invented by the Romans as a form of ‘psychological warfare’ against Jewish people, a biblical scholar has sensationally claimed.

Joseph Atwill, author of ‘Caesar’s Messiah’, claims to have found ancient confessions from the Romans which states authorities created a ‘messiah’ to pacify Jews in Palestine. The American author says Jesus was not based on a historical figure, but the Romans drew inspiration from historical figures from the First Jewish-Roman War. Mr Atwill said: “Jewish sects in Palestine at the time, who were waiting for a prophesied warrior Messiah, were a constant source of violent insurrection during the first century.

“When the Romans had exhausted conventional means of quashing rebellion, they switched to psychological warfare. They surmised that the way to stop the spread of zealous Jewish missionary activity was to create a competing belief system.

“That’s when the ‘peaceful’ Messiah story was invented. Instead of inspiring warfare, this Messiah urged turn-the-other-cheek pacifism and encouraged Jews to ‘give onto Caesar’ and pay their taxes to Rome.

“The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar.”

Mr Atwill says he first discovered this revelation when noticing Jesus is “the only fictional character in literature whose entire life story can be traced to other sources”.

By comparing the New Testament to the ‘War of the Jews’ by Josephus – the sole surviving account of first century Judea – he found the parallels between the two.

Mr Atwill: “What seems to have eluded many scholars is that the sequence of events and locations of Jesus ministry are more or less the same as the sequence of events and locations of the military campaign of [Emperor] Titus Flavius as described by Josephus.

“This is clear evidence of a deliberately constructed pattern.

“The biography of Jesus is actually constructed, tip to stern, on prior stories, but especially on the biography of a Roman Caesar.”

Source: https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1152674/christianity-news-jesus-christ-hoax-bible-romans-jewish

God Almighty of the Old Testament is the only true GOD



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmEScIUcvz0

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by otipoju(m): 6:38pm On Dec 03, 2022
Who are the these Roman's that invented Jesus.
Name the individuals that made up this story.

If I lived in Lagos State between 2000 and 2010, can you tell me that Abacha was once the military governor of Lagos state and expect me to believe you?

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Solofresh2: 6:42pm On Dec 03, 2022
I know this before.No be today wink

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Maynman: 6:43pm On Dec 03, 2022
otipoju:
Who are the these Roman's that invented Jesus.
Name the individuals that made up this story.

If I lived in Lagos State between 2000 and 2010, can you tell me that Abacha was once the military governor of Lagos state and expect me to believe you?

exactly, if you live in lagos state between 2000 and 2010, and a forged and edited book tells you that abacha was military governor of lagos state will you believe?

To debunk the lie, we’ll first look at who, how, when and why the book was written.
The book was meant for which audience?
No wonder the jews reject it wink

https://www.nairaland.com/7393471/isis-chrest-chrest#117738753

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by guysbewise: 6:47pm On Dec 03, 2022
otipoju:
Who are the these Roman's that invented Jesus.
Name the individuals that made up this story.

If I lived in Lagos State between 2000 and 2010, can you tell me that Abacha was once the military governor of Lagos state and expect me to believe you?


I was in Benin throughout the time of Anini and we all believed he had the power to disappear and appear in different places at once from what we were told. If the military government had not caught him and they too joined in saying Anini could disappear then Anini would had been classed as a superhero today

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by otipoju(m): 6:52pm On Dec 03, 2022
guysbewise:


I was in Benin throughout the time of Anini and we all believed he had the power to disappear and appear in different places at once from what we heard. If the military government had not caught him and they too joined in saying Anini could disappear then Anini would had been classed as a superhero today

Gotcha!!!

Anini existed and that's why there was a conversation about him.

If Jesus was not an historical character, there could have been nothing attributed to him, therefore you can not claim that he was an "invention" that did not exist and therefore you argument falls flat on its face.

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Kobojunkie: 6:54pm On Dec 03, 2022
guysbewise:
I was in Benin throughout the time of Anini and we all believed he had the power to disappear and appear in different places at once from what we were told. If the military government had not caught him and they too joined in saying Anini could disappear then Anini would had been classed as a superhero today
Is this an attempt or sorts to rewrite history or are you simply asserting that all folks in Benin at that time were as gullible as you most have been at that age? undecided

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by guysbewise: 6:56pm On Dec 03, 2022
otipoju:


Gotcha!!!

Anini existed and that's why there was a conversation about him.

If Jesus was not an historical character, there could have been nothing attributed to him, therefore you can not claim that he was an "invention" that did not exist and therefore you argument falls flat on its face.

There were people called Jesus at the time that were crucified as they were against Roman occupation of Israel at the time and it was one of these Jesus's that the Roman empire invented as Jesus Christ.
Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Dtruthspeaker: 6:58pm On Dec 03, 2022
otipoju:


Gotcha!!!

Anini existed and that's why there was a conversation about him.

If Jesus was not an historical character, there could have been nothing attributed to him, therefore you can not claim that he was an "invention" that did not exist and therefore you argument falls flat on its face.

O man, you dey sweet my belle!

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Dtruthspeaker: 7:02pm On Dec 03, 2022
guysbewise:


There were people called Jesus at the time that were crucified as they were against Roman occupation of Israel at the time and it was one of these Jesus's that the Roman empire invented as Jesus Christ.

How can they invent a real human being Na, guy think? Imagine inventing a Ronaldo or Davido (real) to create a fake Ronaldo/Davido, does it make any good sense?
Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by guysbewise: 7:08pm On Dec 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:

How can they invent a real human being Na, guy think? Imagine inventing a Ronaldo or Davido (real) to create a fake Ronaldo/Davido, does it make any good sense?

Yes it does, as the Christ added was the invention. If the military were European at the time of Anini all they would have done was teach it in schools that Anini was a superhero if it could be used as psychological warfare to their own advantage, which was what Rome used at the time as the Jews waged religious wars against Roman occupation of their Holy land.

Ronaldo or Davido being born of a virgin or making a ball to disappear can be invented

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Ofemmanu1: 7:15pm On Dec 03, 2022
guysbewise:


The Christ added was the invention. If the military were European at the time of Anini all they would have done was teach it in schools that Anini was a superhero if it could be used as psychological warfare to their own advantage, which was what Rome used at the time as the Jews waged religious wars against Roman occupation of their Holy land.

Ronaldo or Davido being born of a virgin or making a ball to disappear can be invented

The Romans ain't daft, they could make anybody rat out the truth thru the unimaginable torture they administered.
However, even if they Invented Jesus; it's indeed a very good invention cos the Name alone works wonders..

Jesus Christ is Lord.

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Dtruthspeaker: 7:30pm On Dec 03, 2022
guysbewise:


Yes it does, as the Christ added was the invention...

And this is why many would call you insane. We know inventions. Things fall apart/Othello/Chike and the River are all inventions which we were made to learn in school while the British invaded us and we knew they were not True.

So, everything is wrong with you if you are not able to tell the difference between an invention and a Truth.

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by guysbewise: 7:32pm On Dec 03, 2022
Ofemmanu1:


The Romans ain't daft, they could make anybody rat out the truth thru the unimaginable torture they administered.
However, even if they Invented Jesus; it's indeed a very good invention cos the Name alone works wonders..

Jesus Christ is Lord.

I personally know someone who is always saying Jesus is Lord and is the only through way but the Sixth and Seventh Books of Moses was found in his room where he has been practicing it. Now I have come to realise that Jesus is just a coverup to control the gullible ones.

GOD of the Old Testament is the only LORD

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by guysbewise: 7:41pm On Dec 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


And this is why many would call you insane. We know inventions. Things fall apart/Othello/Chike and the River are all inventions which we were made to learn in school while the British invaded us and we knew they were not True.

So, everything is wrong with you if you are not able to tell the difference between an invention and a Truth.


If you're not the one insane then you would know that the virgin birth and the FAKE messiah of the Jews was a psychological warfare to control the minds of people at the time as they were all expecting a messiah like David to deliver them from Roman occupation.

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Dtruthspeaker: 7:51pm On Dec 03, 2022
guysbewise:


If you're not the one insane then you would know that the virgin birth and the FAKE messiah of the Jews was a psychological tool to control the minds of people at the time as they were all expecting a messiah like David to deliver them from Roman occupation.

See, you have no thing other than crying "fake, fake, fake" desperately appealing to people to accept your madness.

That surely shows us how empty it is. And obviously considering the newness of this moniker this is another moniker of one of the nairaland's insane people who sells this rotten meatpie called sonmvayina.

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by guysbewise: 7:56pm On Dec 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


See, you have no thing other than crying "fake, fake, fake" desperately appealing to people to accept your madness.

That surely shows us how empty it is.


You are the one showing your madness if not you would have studied official Roman occupation of Israel at the time to know that it was a war zone between the Jewish zealots that were following the instructions in their Torah to defeat the Romans from their Holy land

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Dtruthspeaker: 7:58pm On Dec 03, 2022
guysbewise:


You are the one showing your madness if not you would have studied official Roman occupation of Israel at the time to know the it was a war zone between the Jewish zealots that were following the instructions in their Torah to defeat the Romans from there Holy land

Exactly what you have been saying since you went insane from the drugs that blew you up when you went across the sea.

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by guysbewise: 8:05pm On Dec 03, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


Exactly what you have been saying since you went insane from the drugs that blew you up when you went across the sea.

I'm not surprised that you are showing your insanity here as only an insane person would today ignore all the historical facts and still be believing in a FAKE messiah and a FAKE virgin birth which was a psychological warfare the Romans used against the Jews who were expecting a messiah to help them defeat the Romans from their Holy land

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Ofemmanu1: 9:17pm On Dec 03, 2022
guysbewise:


I personally know someone who is always saying Jesus is Lord and is the only through way but the Sixth and Seventh Books of Moses was found in his room where he has been practicing it. Now I have come to realise that Jesus is just a coverup to control the gullible ones.

GOD of the Old Testament is the only LORD


It's what you believe bro..
Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by agemmy113(m): 9:28pm On Dec 03, 2022
Wow the Roman are great inventor to have invented Peter, Paul, and John the revelator
Also. For them to have made accurate prophecy about end time happening..
Please don't allow anybody to pervert the truth you have known. Jesus is real...
Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by otipoju(m): 10:14pm On Dec 03, 2022
guysbewise:


There were people called Jesus at the time that were crucified as they were against Roman occupation of Israel at the time and it was one of these Jesus's that the Roman empire invented as Jesus Christ.


An invention something that did not exist that was brought into existence.

Jesus was a common name granted...like Adebayo

But Jesus the son of Mary and Joseph the Carpenter. Cousin to John the only son, of Elizabeth and Zechariah the high priest who was dumb until John was born.

This tracers/identifiers could not have been invented.

His genealogy was traceable, his village was clearly stated, his brothers became apostles, he had disciples who were with him for three years and became martyrs for their faith.

You can't invent such out of thin air. You can't ascribe all his miracles and his trials to an imposter.

You can choose to believe the claims about him or the things he himself claimed...but what you will not say is that the Roman's invented him!!!

You claim has zero premises to stand on and it falls flat on his face.

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by guysbewise: 2:29am On Dec 04, 2022
otipoju:



An invention something that did not exist that was brought into existence.

Jesus was a common name granted...like Adebayo

But Jesus the son of Mary and Joseph the Carpenter. Cousin to John the only son, of Elizabeth and Zechariah the high priest who was dumb until John was born.

This tracers/identifiers could not have been invented.

His genealogy was traceable, his village was clearly stated, his brothers became apostles, he had disciples who were with him for three years and became martyrs for their faith.

You can't invent such out of thin air. You can't ascribe all his miracles and his trials to an imposter.

You can choose to believe the claims about him or the things he himself claimed...but what you will not say is that the Roman's invented him!!!

You claim has zero premises to stand on and it falls flat on his face.


Two different genealogies and it was the holy spirit that mated with Mary another man's wife and not Joseph so how is his genealogy that of Joseph?

Israel was under Roman occupation during the time of Jesus when Jews were being taken away as slaves to Europe so the Romans empire inventing Jesus Christ makes a lot of sense

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by MrPRevailer(m): 2:43am On Dec 04, 2022
The Paganic Roman Empire. did not invent Jesus Christ. They invented a counterfeit Christianity inother to forestall the global growth and spread of Christianity. Because killing and persecution of Christians wasn't working.
Blasphemous words like Mother of God, Queen of heaven and worship of angels was introduced
Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by sonmvayina(m): 7:10am On Dec 04, 2022
Dtruthspeaker:


See, you have no thing other than crying "fake, fake, fake" desperately appealing to people to accept your madness.

That surely shows us how empty it is. And obviously considering the newness of this moniker this is another moniker of one of the nairaland's insane people who sells this rotten meatpie called sonmvayina.


Lol..
That's not me..I have better things to do than create more monikers..

My offer still stands,

I will pay for your treatment..

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by sonmvayina(m): 7:20am On Dec 04, 2022
Ofemmanu1:


It's what you believe bro..

But it is the truth..

God never said anybody was coming to die for sins..

He already gave them a solution to the problem of sin in 2nd chronicles 7:14

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by sonmvayina(m): 7:21am On Dec 04, 2022
agemmy113:
Wow the Roman are great inventor to have invented Peter, Paul, and John the revelator
Also. For them to have made accurate prophecy about end time happening..
Please don't allow anybody to pervert the truth you have known. Jesus is real...

Those thing where already happening around them and even before them ..
Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Nobody: 7:40am On Dec 04, 2022
Maynman:

exactly, if you live in lagos state between 2000 and 2010, and a forged and edited book tells you that abacha was military governor of lagos state will you believe?

To debunk the lie, we’ll first look at who, how, when and why the book was written.
The book was meant for which audience?
No wonder the jews reject it wink

https://www.nairaland.com/7393471/isis-chrest-chrest#117738753

Jews don't have scholars? No historians? Do you know when jews started writing?

You don't even know why the Jews rejected Jesus.
Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by oteneaaron(m): 7:48am On Dec 04, 2022
If only people would actually read the book the OP mentioned and weigh the options for themselves.

Instead, they would rather argue and dish out insults.

In the search for truth, we must be willing to hear all sides of the argument - then decide by our own volition on which side of the fence we belong to.

But unfortunately, majority of people are too lazy to do any research.

It you are interested, here are some books to aid in your research into the history and origins of the Jesus story.

1. Ceasar's Messiah - as mentioned by the OP

2. Who is This King of Glory? - by Alvin Boyd Khun

3. The Pagan Christ - by Tom Hapur

4. Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of the Christ - by DM Murdock

5. The Jesus Mysteries; Was the Original Jesus a Pagan God? - by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy

Don't be intellectually lazy, question everything, study, do research and open your mind.

It is the best thing you could ever do for yourself.

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by Maynman: 8:12am On Dec 04, 2022
Thanksful:


Jews don't have scholars? No historians? Do you know when jews started writing?

You don't even know why the Jews rejected Jesus.

When was “jews” coined?
When the “jews” start writing?

Show me references explaining why the “jews” rejected iesus chrestus.

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by guysbewise: 8:13am On Dec 04, 2022
Ofemmanu1:


It's what you believe bro..

What l beleive is true as shown in the Old Testament book of Jonah when the True GOD of the Old Testament sent Jonah to go and preach to the people of Nineveh and GOD forgave them after they repented without waiting for the New Testament Jesus Christ invented by the Roman empire to come and take away their sins

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Re: Bible Bombshell: Jesus Christ Invented By Romans As ‘psychological Warfare’ by sonmvayina(m): 8:30am On Dec 04, 2022
oteneaaron:
If only people would actually read the book the OP mentioned and weigh the options for themselves.

Instead, they would rather argue and dish out insults.

In the search for truth, we must be willing to hear all sides of the argument - then decide by our own volition on which side of the fence we belong to.

But unfortunately, majority of people are too lazy to do any research.

It you are interested, here are some books to aid in your research into the history and origins of the Jesus story.

1. Ceasar's Messiah - as mentioned by the OP

2. Who is This King of Glory? - by Alvin Boyd Khun

3. The Pagan Christ - by Tom Hapur

4. Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of the Christ - by DM Murdock

5. The Jesus Mysteries; Was the Original Jesus a Pagan God? - by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy

Don't be intellectually lazy, question everything, study, do research and open your mind.

It is the best thing you could ever do for yourself.

The person who really sent me on this discovery was ken Humphreys..'jesus never existed'..

He really opened my eyes to the fraud..

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