TheCongo2:


Mais, je n'arrive pas a mettre un commentaire sur ton sujet (Mon book)
https://www.nairaland.com/7319638/mon-book

Ahh, vraiment? C'est le travail du modérateur. Peut-être parce que c'est un journal personnel?
Seriously, je ne sais pas comment ça marche

Yoruba's will not be happy with this kind law!

DonroxyII:
You are very Correct, I'm a Moralist Myself But I don't believe in Autocratic Moralism But Democratic Moralism !

Law against Premarital Sex Wouldn't Actually solve Premarital sex it would only make it obscure because Human would still find means to sabotage and Shag one another far from the eyes of Government and their Guardians ....

If not,

Masturbation would be Promoted leading to Dire Consequences Associated with Self Relationships..... Self Relationships leads to Mental Depression and Retardation as well as Social Withdrawal ....

Another is Problem the law might caused is Promotion of Sham Marriages for Sexual Purposes and Divorces/Separations afterwards ....

Thus, As we are Curbing one Problem another Problem is Raising Her Heads which also requires Managements......

I'm not against that Law, I'm only speaking to the scientific implications of Such Laws .....

The Law I would love is Once a Man Impregnates a Woman, She automatically becomes Your Wife On DNA confirmation that the Foetus/Child is the Man's and The Man Must be Fully Responsible for the Upkeep of the Pregnancy and the Expectant Mother as well as the Mother and Child on Delivery ....

No Woman should be made to Raise Her Pregnancy and Child Alone till Maturity of that Child !

If we fvck Each Other together, We must be Responsible for the Consequences together!

I get your point though. But come to think of it we are still saying the same thing.

Men getting into marriage because they impregnated I will still turn out to be a SHAM marriage at the end.

Because they are only afraid of the law catching up with them hence the necessity to jump into marriage with someone they might have never wanted to be their wife.

There is a saying that says; "Prevention is better than cure." I don't want to sound too religious but God that instructed us not too isn't a fool.

Danisaint112:


I get your point though. But come to think of it we are still saying the same thing.

Men getting into marriage because they impregnated I will still turn out to be a SHAM marriage at the end.

Because they are only afraid of the law catching up with them hence the necessity to jump into marriage with someone they might have never wanted to be their wife.

There is a saying that says; "Prevention is better than cure." I don't want to sound too religious but God that instructed us not too isn't a fool.

Lol, The World is getting Unified and No nation is an Island anymore as well as the Human Right Enforcer .... thus, God is God but Reasonableness is also Reasonableness as far as Contemporary Times we found ourselves is Concerned!

Some People do not believe in the Definition of God as Codified By Africans and Religionists Mind You I am a Muslim Myself and God Strictly Prohibits Premarital Sex in the Qur'an and So Be it if Such Law is Promulgated at National Level for a Shariah Based Nation:

Nevertheless, There are Other Scientific Consequences to Such Law which also Needed to be Addressed as well as the Issues of Third Columnists who awaits the Indonesians to Rebel and the Government clamps down on Her citizens and the Western Nations Claims Human Right Abuses before You Realise it simple Riots will turn to Terrorism and Boom.. That's My Point .... We have to be Genuine with Whatever Strives we are undertaking as Morals !

I won't Promulgate Such Laws without Incentives to Promote Real Marriages and Maintain Real Marriages and that's Via Economic Prosperity of the Citizens because no Law is Absolute in Herself without the Support of the People whom the Laws were made for or Against !

That's My Own View Nevertheless the People would still sabotage the law ...

Prostitutions is Prohibited in Nigeria but Which Corner you would enter without Red light ... But if the Government are actually Genuine in their Policies to Forbid Prostitutions via Economic Prosperity to Citizens I can Assure Myself that there would be not many girls on the street trading their Bodies for Cash !

DonroxyII:
Lol, The World is getting Unified and No nation is an Island anymore as well as the Human Right Enforcer .... thus, God is God but Reasonableness is also Reasonableness as far as Contemporary Times we found ourselves is Concerned!

Some People do not believe in the Definition of God as Codified By Africans and Religionists Mind You I am a Muslim Myself and God Strictly Prohibits Premarital Sex in the Qur'an and So Be it if Such Law is Promulgated at National Level for a Shariah Based Nation:

Nevertheless, There are Other Scientific Consequences to Such Law which also Needed to be Addressed as well as the Issues of Third Columnists who awaits the Indonesians to Rebel and the Government clamps down on Her citizens and the Western Nations Claims Human Right Abuses before You Realise it simple Riots will turn to Terrorism and Boom.. That's My Point .... We have to be Genuine with Whatever Strives we are undertaking as Morals !

I won't Promulgate Such Laws without Incentives to Promote Real Marriages and Maintain Real Marriages and that's Via Economic Prosperity of the Citizens because no Law is Absolute in Herself without the Support of the People whom the Laws were made for or Against !

That's My Own View Nevertheless the People would still sabotage the law ...

Prostitutions is Prohibited in Nigeria but Which Corner you would enter without Red light ... But if the Government are actually Genuine in their Policies to Forbid Prostitutions via Economic Prosperity to Citizens I can Assure Myself that there would be not many girls on the street trading their Bodies for Cash !

Hmm is still support the decision though. In as much as people will still find a way to fornicate such laws and measure will help curb the indecent act. That's my point. Peace.. ❤️

Vasiline with cucumber will be on high demand

Their country their laws.
Good one

SIRTee15:


They are not Christian nations but their system is based on judeo- Christian ideology. Learn the difference.

What about churches that join LGBTQ couples

JasonScoolari:
I would have sing the praise of your Dad if he was an international thief, quite sad he is a local and village thief.


God bless Chief James Onanefe Ibori.

Why are you like this?

4ward4:


Then you don't know the transition, Christiandom have been through. No Christain Governing Society is accepting the LGBT. It is a thiugh battle for the Church.
Christiandom have learnt to put Religion and Democratic Rule In place. The church isn't Compulsory Forcing the Canon Law on any individual. Such law Is bidding on you if you wholly accept it should bind on you.
Islam haven't learnt that yet, it is still a young bubbling Religion. Christianity was worse than that, banking was practically imposed and created by the church and many other forced doctrine. The church have learnt you can't force a human on If truly you are talking about DEMOCRACY...

There is a Curve, Islam is basically starting on the Curve it will get to a Zone and their will be a break on the Curve.The first step will be the Rebel from their people, Islam celebrate Dictatorship and oppression. The people will break that chain soon.

Continue Ur illusion and immoral life. I see Y Christian country is on the rise in terms of LGBT.

Oches4me:
Continue Ur illusion and immoral life. I see Y Christian country is on the rise in terms of LGBT.

Don't comment like a fool. Get books on history's and read. The illusion which will be a reality, is a 50yrs projection.
Concluding I am into immoral life shows how stupid you can be...You have no single power to judge a man , provided he does you no wrong ... you have no idea of how many LGBT are in the Middle East and Muslim populated Zones, just don't be a fool...
Subject any religion to public scrutiny and see if any can stand the test of time like Christianity.
It is a matter of time...

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The law is dumb. Indonesians are quite secular. People will find ways around it but it won't be perfect.

It may also encourage the rise of homosexuality as it has done in Pakistan. Stop spreading misinformation.

Shithole country

LilMissFavvy:
Hmm, the religion of piss people like to do, undo, redo and overdo everything, hopefully their economy will crash and people will stop investing there.

Thanks U acknowledge we uphold our religion ethics unlike Christian that has sold their to Devil

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Just say you are a Muslim and you don't want to hear the truth. I am a conservative Christian so should support such a law. It is unrealistic. It just sends things underground. Despite Sharia in the many core Northern states, homosexuality still thrives there.

There is a ban on abortion in Nigeria is there not. Has it stopped the practice or just sent it underground?

I am just being pragmatic.

Moh247:
Sharia

is that why you raped your nephew and mother

Eniitankorede:


What has religious laws got to do with human development indices? Don’t they have religious laws in Dubai and Qatar? Don’t they have that at the Vartican?

The Vatican is a theocratic state that relies on revenues obtained from Catholic Church-dominated countries. She is even a city-state, so poor comparison. As for the UAE and specifically Dubai, she is richer than other Emirates within the country (excluding oil revenues), and this is solely as a result of relaxing her laws. Last year, she removed the law against the opposite sex sleeping together in a hotel room. Before then, the law was not implemented. Today, Saudi Arabia is emulating her by relaxing Islamic laws to increase tourists other than Hajj related. For Qatar, hs is only prosperous due to the high revenues from LNG exports and its small population. Should oil cease today, only the UAE can thrive economically and maintain its HDIndices.

Again, religious laws tend to make countries backwards. Why are states in Northern Nigeria so poor? How can the likes of Sokoto and Zamfara attract skilled people to live and work when Deborah was brutally butchered? You, religious people, think everything is by the Bible or Koran. If the laws are implemented 100%, most of you will begin to complain. Today, people wish to relocate to countries with no religious laws. If religious laws endear development, how come many are not interested in moving to Saudi Arabia or Qatar compared to Belgium or Canada?

shegzhkn:


Do you agree the only thing saving the Gulf country from economic turmoil is oil I mean country like Qatar, KSA, Kuwait, UAE where things that are non issue in the west is still a big deal there.

That is the reason the UAE, specifically Dubai diversified quickly and today, the rest of the region is emulating her and to do this, they have to relax Islamic laws. Islamic laws cannot feed or pay taxes to fund social services or provide jobs. Should oil cease, only the UAE can thrive afterwards, the rest will have serious economic problems.

Hmm...

This is BAD business for the WEST. Some of them go to Indonesia just for the SEX....but it is good news for all the girls forced into prostitution and sexual exploitation to satisfy disgusting men from Western countries. They will look for another alternative, like Thailand, to keep going to.

fergie001:
Indonesia, the world’s third-largest democracy, cleared a sweeping overhaul of its criminal code on Tuesday, outlawing sex outside of marriage, defamation of the president and sharply expanding its laws against blasphemy.

The new rules, which also apply to foreigners in the country, have drawn criticism from human rights activists, businesspeople and students who warned of the risks posed to the L.G.B.T. community and religious minorities. Opponents also said that the rules threatened the global reputation that Indonesia, which has the world’s largest Muslim population, has built as a tolerant, widely secular nation.

Indonesian officials say upgrading the existing criminal code, which dates back to 1918 when Indonesia was a Dutch colony, was long overdue. Among the raft of new laws, penalties around consensual sex outside marriage have drawn the most criticism.
According to the new law, unmarried couples who “live together as a husband and wife” could be jailed for six months or face a maximum fine of 10 million rupiah ($710).




SOURCE

Magnoliaa:




Why are you like this?

Some people don't know how to avoid problems... He left the important issue and went straight to my signature.

Gerrard59:


That is the reason the UAE, specifically Dubai diversified quickly and today, the rest of the region is emulating her and to do this, they have to relax Islamic laws. Islamic laws cannot feed or pay taxes to fund social services or provide jobs. Should oil cease, only the UAE can thrive afterwards, the rest will have serious economic problems.

Even with their humongous sovereign wealth fund huh ??

noskcid:
10 million rupiah ($710).

So an American earning $5k monthly is a king in this country?

naira have more value than south korea currency does dat mean an average nigeria can ball in SK??

value of currency is just lyk measurements in some case
u decide to use millimeter
I decide to use centimeter
others decide to use kilometer

at the end of the day wen u do your conversation nah same thing (unless u continue to devalue your currency due to bad economy)

shegzhkn:


Even with their humongous sovereign wealth fund huh ??

u dey mind him, everybody want to be forming expert on economy matter

even chemicals and manufacturing togeda with tourism will sustain Saudi (of today)....make her go read about SABIC chemicals and other manufacturing companies dis ppl have

Gerrard59:


That is the reason the UAE, specifically Dubai diversified quickly and today, the rest of the region is emulating her and to do this, they have to relax Islamic laws. Islamic laws cannot feed or pay taxes to fund social services or provide jobs. Should oil cease, only the UAE can thrive afterwards, the rest will have serious economic problems.

if some north african countries can do good for them selves with little to no oil, keep your worry for the gulf states oil or no oil (Arabs are not Africa)

look at jordan and lebanon without oil or tangible resources dey are still able to do ETH for demselves

Gerrard59:


The Vatican is a theocratic state that relies on revenues obtained from Catholic Church-dominated countries. She is even a city-state, so poor comparison. As for the UAE and specifically Dubai, she is richer than other Emirates within the country (excluding oil revenues), and this is solely as a result of relaxing her laws. Last year, she removed the law against the opposite sex sleeping together in a hotel room. Before then, the law was not implemented. Today, Saudi Arabia is emulating her by relaxing Islamic laws to increase tourists other than Hajj related. For Qatar, hs is only prosperous due to the high revenues from LNG exports and its small population. Should oil cease today, only the UAE can thrive economically and maintain its HDIndices.

Again, religious laws tend to make countries backwards. Why are states in Northern Nigeria so poor? How can the likes of Sokoto and Zamfara attract skilled people to live and work when Deborah was brutally butchered? You, religious people, think everything is by the Bible or Koran. If the laws are implemented 100%, most of you will begin to complain. Today, people wish to relocate to countries with no religious laws. If religious laws endear development, how come many are not interested in moving to Saudi Arabia or Qatar compared to Belgium or Canada?

for your mind now u can only grow a country economy always SINful act is wide spread SMH

CBR100:



naira have more value than south korea currency does dat mean an average nigeria can ball in SK??

value of currency is just lyk measurements in some case
u decide to use millimeter
I decide to use centimeter
others decide to use kilometer

at the end of the day wen u do your conversation nah same thing (unless u continue to devalue your currency due to bad economy)

No be lie
I greet you

CBR100:


if some north african countries can do good for them selves with little to no oil, keep your worry for the gulf states oil or no oil (Arabs are not Africa)

look at jordan and lebanon without oil or tangible resources dey are still able to do ETH for demselves

Jordan is supported by the Israelis, so I don't know why you mentioned the country.

Lebanon, doing well for herself? You have the Internet. Google about the country, and you would notice she started failing economically when she adopted hardline Islamist ideologies. Nigeria is doing better than Lebanon economically and will become terrible the moment she adopts hardline Islamic ideologies. All the states that adopted Sharia are poorer than ever before.

As for the rest of North African countries, none has adopted this hardline ideology. Not Morocco or Tunisia or Egypt. Countries that rely on tourism cannot institute these policies. Isn't that a reason Egyptians kicked out the Muslim Brotherhood? Even Maldives at a point, wanted to do the same, but she backed out seeing the revenues obtained from tourists and how religious laws will scare away people and hinder development.

Please do a bit of elementary economics before mentioning me when we discuss the economy

CBR100:



for your mind now u can only grow a country economy always SINful act is wide spread SMH

Again, religious laws tend to make countries backwards. Why are states in Northern Nigeria so poor? How can the likes of Sokoto and Zamfara attract skilled people to live and work when Deborah was brutally butchered? You, religious people, think everything is by the Bible or Koran. If the laws are implemented 100%, most of you will begin to complain. Today, people wish to relocate to countries with no religious laws. If religious laws endear development, how come many are not interested in moving to Saudi Arabia or Qatar compared to Belgium or Canada?

Why don't you move to Kebbi, you this religious-law-loving person?

At the bold, morality is subjective. Islamic or Biblical laws will not pay your taxes

shegzhkn:


Even with their humongous sovereign wealth fund huh ??

So, because they have SWF, they should spend yanfu-yanfu without thinking of expanding it till thy kingdom come? By expansion, this means diversifying the economy. By diversification, you relax or outlaw some of the draconian laws in the society so that sectors that will deal with foreigners can thrive, employ people and pay taxes.

No wonder Amaechi, Fashola and Oshiolmole pressurised Jonathan to squander the ECA and back out from creating a SWF.

You people deserve the politicians you get.

Gerrard59:




Why don't you move to Kebbi, you this religious-law-loving person?

At the bold, morality is subjective. Islamic or Biblical laws will not pay your taxes

I will pick kebbi over enugu, abia, imo 100 times

(am from southwest and I see no reason to move)

if am offer a job and am asking to pick the branch I will lyk to stay I will pick kano over anambra (and I will pick Saudi over UK)

u lol will talking as if God as canceled all sins (as if there is no DAY OF JUDGMENT)

MasterTeeUSA:
This is BAD business for the WEST. Some of them go to Indonesia just for the SEX ....but it is good news for all the girls forced into prostitution and sexual exploitation to satisfy disgusting men from Western countries. They will look for another alternative, like Thailand, to keep going to.

In the first place, very few westerners headed to Indonesia for sex tourism. If they did, Jarkata would be among the most visited city in the region since Bangkok is close by. Also, if they did, Morocco would have also been a sex haven.

Well, since the country will receive fewer tourists, women who were employed in the service industry will make do with being maids in Singapore or Saudi Arabia where they're maltreated by bosses in the latter. The small tourism industry wey bin dey employ people will receive fewer tourists than before.