Ballzproblem2:
this line up ,oh my God

popizaino:




Bitter leaf soup is ready,you all should come out and use the same energy to dissect this stats the way you did on iniesta.

raumdeuter:
Casemiro and Modric were both in Madrid from August 2012 to June 2022

Casemiro was a pure DM while Modric was CM/AM

Casemiro played 334 games

Modric played 436 games

Casemiro scored 31 goals

Modric scored 31 goals

One of them was definitely more defensive than the other

Now you are free to use the stats above for more agenda

popizaino:




U-19 and U-17.

izzou:


Modric total assist for RM - 74

Casemiro total assist for RM - 28

Do the maths and tell me how Casemiro was a better CM/AM than Luka

Find another straw to clutch. This one don bend

afrodoc2:


Are those World Cups?



It is like you don’t read things properly before posting them.

popizaino:



How about we consider the fact that Modric plays corners and indirect freekicks which might be responsible for his higher number of assists abi?

Now do the maths and let's go back to the original post.

Stop considering sir

Put Goals and Assists for both Xavi and Scamdres and let us see what it reveals

izzou:


Stop considering sir

Put Goals and Assists for both Xavi and Scamdres and let us see what it reveals

airmark:


So forget that story that they are more Arabs, than Africans because they read Fathia on the field.

popizaino:



Are they not metrics again?

Juan Mata played our 2012 cornekick to assist Drogba

Modric played RM cornekick for sergio Ramos's goal.

How would they have assisted without playing being the one who played the corner kicks?


Let's do goal for Casemeiro and Modric.


KDB and Zidane .

Popi, i don tire walahi

sebod:

It's all agenda from a very smart guy whose opinion is well respected here.

NinjaXmetahuman:
na so
I used to think iniesta was the best thing after Messi in golden Barcelona team until Ibime open book for am

Ibime:


Did Casemiro control games more than Modric, take more touches and make more assists?

Modric is a failed AM, that's not in doubt, hence why Van Der Vaart pursued him from AM position to the left wing after Modric couldn't produce in that position at Spurs, but that's none of my business. When they fail as AMs, they rebrand as DM or CM, following Schweinsteigers playbook.

popizaino:



Bitter leaf soup is ready,you all should come out and use the same energy to dissect this stats the way you did on iniesta.

izzou:


Popi, i don tire walahi

raumdeuter:


I can also ask that did Modric make tackles more than Casemiro? Whi is Casemiro a pure DM dragging goals in less games than Modric

Can we conclude that Casemiro carried Modric in Madrid like you did for Xavi vs Iniesta on account of his goals

Ibime:

It is a different league with a different style of play and played against different opponents. In Spain for example, they have more passes, run less kilometres and convert less set pieces. Also, they do not fulfill the same role, unlike Lamps and Gerrard.
If we do judge them, we would judge them within constraints, but the judgement would be more qualitative than quantitative.
Iniesta's passing stats are infinitely better than Lamps because Barca take more touches than Chelsea. Have you checked Iniestas successful dribbles stats in comparison to Lampard?
If I say Lamps is a better scorer than Iniesta, am I wrong?
Stats tell me Iniesta is a better passer and better dribbler. Lampard is a better scorer. . . . .now I can make a judgement on who is better overall and say Iniesta is better overall.
In Lamps/Gerrard case, stats tell me Lamps is a better passer, assister, scorer, tackler, runner. . . .they play in the same league, and in the same role. . . .and last season at least, Liverpool performed better than Chelsea, so the team they play for doesnt come into it.
So which single variable should I use to conclude that Gerrard is better than Lamps?
Please give me just one statistic to put Gerrard ahead of him.

popizaino:
All the energy used to disparage iniesta's career stats must be expunge today.


Oya give us your take on this.

Ibime
Afrodoc.

No excuse of different era.

popizaino:
All the energy used to disparage iniesta's career stats must be expunge today.


Oya give us your take on this.

Ibime
Afrodoc.

No excuse of different era.

Leyqute:


Wait first.

Didn’t Iniesta score 57 goals in his 669 games for Barc alone?

donstan18:

If you’re actually comparing Zidane and KDB, then you’re not different from those attacking Inesta.

KDB and Zidane shouldn’t be in the same sentence because KDB is just so so clear from that French bald fraud.

Wahala no dey finish

raumdeuter:


Neymar and Hazard are attackers who are measured by goals and assists

Iniesta is a midfielder. How many times have you seen goals of Kroos or Modric being discussed

Ibime:


Do you have pap in your brains, or are you too blind to see the obvious

There are 4 elements of midfield play


Casemiro and Modric:

Defending - Casemiro
Controlling - Modric
Assisting - Modric
Scoring - Tie


Xavi and Iniesta:

Defending - Xavi
Controlling - Xavi
Assisting - Xavi
Scoring - Xavi

Only thing Iniesta brings is shakushaku which is not an element

Your Modric agenda to defend the carry along is dead on arrival.

Ibime:


You have answered the question in the bolded and still asking foolish question. Players don't play outside the formation and expectation of their time

Go and bring the best AMs and wingers of Zidane era to compare - Figo, Nedved, Laudrup, Aimar, Veron, Rui Costa and co

Taguchi:


say no more!



herd mentality tins

Taguchi:
only Agenda can make Iniesta who is better than frank lampard here to be termed a fraud

Ibime:

What I know is that in Scholes prime, we only talk of Keane vs Vieira.
And after they left, we only talked of Lampard vs Gerrard
Scholes has always been a 3rd wheel in midfield and a 5th or 6th wheel in any Manure team in any era
He is deserving of a place on the bench. he has neither the statistical records, nor status in his own team to help his argument.

Ibime:

Lampard, Keane, Vieira and Gerrard are central midfielders and have always been top 3 players in their team, if not the top player for many seasons.
There is no way you sneak a Scholes who has never been a top 3 or top 5 player in his own team into an EPL 11. It is only longevity that is counting for him cos there is an element of carry-along in his career if he was never one of the top go-to guys in his own team in 20 years of playing football.

Ibime:


Carried wetin? Carried them to eighth place in the table as soon as Xabi Alonso left?

Carry ko, carry ni!

Greatest English midfielder of last 15 years is Scholes, then Lampard. The others are not worth mentioning.

And 3 slaps to whoever mentioned Carrick when midfielders are being discussed.

sebod:
How Iniesta was an AM in a 4-3-3 formation still baffles me honestly
Guys here should know that this same Iniesta was the best player in the world to Ibime until the UCL goal against Chelsea happened

If you want to doubt this, we might have to beg Raumdeuter to help us with those posts....

raumdeuter:
Casemiro and Modric were both in Madrid from August 2012 to June 2022

Casemiro was a pure DM while Modric was CM/AM

Casemiro played 334 games

Modric played 436 games

Casemiro scored 31 goals

Modric scored 31 goals

One of them was definitely more defensive than the other

Now you are free to use the stats above for more agenda

donstan18:

If you’re actually comparing Zidane and KDB, then you’re not different from those attacking Inesta.

KDB and Zidane shouldn’t be in the same sentence because KDB is just so so clear from that French bald fraud.