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Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by orisa37: 10:00am On Feb 12, 2023
NO.
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:56pm On Feb 12, 2023
Maynman:

So yahweh ordered people to take weapons against their enemies grin
NO against enemies of pure worship which means against God's enemies but now He sent His son to tell us:
"you don't have to fight for pure worship anymore"
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by Maynman: 1:22pm On Feb 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

NO against enemies of pure worship which means against God's enemies but now He sent His son to tell us:
"you don't have to fight for pure worship anymore"

Yahweh was fighting his enemies, yahweh sent his son in 6BC grin his son said you shouldn’t fight for pure worship.
Where is the correlation?

Did yahweh have a change of heart when he gave birth?

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Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:44pm On Feb 12, 2023
Maynman:

Yahweh was fighting his enemies, yahweh sent his son in 6BC grin his son said you shouldn’t fight for pure worship.
Where is the correlation?
Did yahweh have a change of heart when he gave birth?

Good question!

Before the birth of God's Son all other nations have their different Gods so each nation fights for whatever their God wants {Micah 4:5} but when Jesus walked the earth he commanded his disciples to take the Good News of God's government to all the nations {Matthew 28-19-20; Act 1:8} surely worshipers of the same God (Jehovah) will be found throughout the earth so there's no need fighting again because God's people will be found everywhere worshiping Him in Spirit and Truth! John 4:20-24

May you have PEACE! smiley
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by Maynman: 1:49pm On Feb 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Good question!

Before the birth of God's Son all other nations have their different Gods so each nation fights for whatever their God wants {Micah 4:5} but when Jesus walked the earth he commanded his disciples to take the Good News of God's government to all the nations {Matthew 28-19-20; Act 1:8} surely worshipers of the same God (Jehovah) will be found throughout the earth so there's no need fighting again because God's people will be found everywhere worshiping Him in Spirit and Truth! John 4:20-24

May you have PEACE! smiley
Before jesus was born in 6BC, only Israelites were worshipping yahweh? Bwahahahah

You are yet to make sense.
Your god was dueling with other gods, did he change his heart after he gave birth in 6BC?


May you have CONSCIENCE cheesy

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Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:12pm On Feb 12, 2023
Maynman:

Before jesus was born in 6BC, only Israelites were worshipping yahweh? Bwahahahah
You are yet to make sense.
Your god was dueling with other gods, did he change his heart after he gave birth in 6BC?
May you have CONSCIENCE cheesy


Before the birth of Jesus the God of Abraham planned to establish pure worship because all the inhabitants of the earth are worshiping other Gods {Joshua 24:2} that's why the nations were fighting as their different Gods were striving for territories using worshipers as their soldiers but most times the Israelites God fights for His own people! Exodus 14:14

But after Jesus worshipers of Jehovah spread throughout the earth so they can't possibly be killing themselves as worshipers of the same God JEHOVAH!
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by Maynman: 2:35pm On Feb 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:



Before the birth of Jesus the God of Abraham planned to establish pure worship because all the inhabitants of the earth are worshiping other Gods {Joshua 24:2} that's why the nations were fighting as their different Gods were striving for territories using worshipers as their soldiers but most times the Israelites God fights for His own people! Exodus 14:14

But after Jesus worshipers of Jehovah spread throughout the earth so they can't possibly be killing themselves as worshipers of the same God JEHOVAH!


Before jesus was born in 6BC, only Israelites were worshipping yahweh? Bwahahahah
You are yet to make sense.
Your god was dueling with other gods, did he change his heart after he gave birth in 6BC?

May you have CONSCIENCE
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:37pm On Feb 12, 2023
Maynman:


Before jesus was born in 6BC, only Israelites were worshipping yahweh? Bwahahahah
You are yet to make sense.
Your god was dueling with other gods, did he change his heart after he gave birth in 6BC?

May you have CONSCIENCE

Thanks for your time Sir! smiley
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by Maynman: 2:40pm On Feb 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Thanks for your time Sir! smiley

You are welcome boy grin
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 8:00pm On Feb 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Of course a JW can do terrible stuff because we're not perfect but note the difference:

If a JW does what is against our norms no JW will support him!

Unlike churchgoers who often support their members to pick up weapons against their enemies JWs will never ever pick up weapons in support of anyone.

That's what i discovered back in the days i was a military man so i discovered the big difference between JWs and all other religions.
If you walk up to a member of our GOVERNING BODY and kill him it's the authorities that will take up your case for man's slaughter to JWs it's a man killing another man just as Jesus commanded his disciples not to support him with weapons we must not support ourselves with weapons! smiley

… yet there were JW mol@sters which your elders protected from the law grin

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Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 8:01pm On Feb 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

YES!
To fight the enemies of pure worship whose intention is to desecrate Jerusalemu the center of pure worship back then or trying to disrupt pure worship by attacking the practicers of pure worship.
Jesus of Nazareth later told us that pure worship will no longer be attached to any geographical location on the planet so that practicers of pure worship don't need to be in Jerusalem before their worship is approved by God! John 4:20-24
That's why worshipers of Yahweh must not pick up weapons again we have no physical site to protect against unlike before when we have to fight to protect the center of pure worship! Matthew 5:43-48

Thanks may you have PEACE! smiley
Actually, many of those Yahweh ordered to be destroyed were people who were going about their bizness, and not harassing the israelites
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 8:02pm On Feb 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

NO against enemies of pure worship which means against God's enemies but now He sent His son to tell us:
"you don't have to fight for pure worship anymore"
Who are 'the enemies of pure worship'? Be specific
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 8:04pm On Feb 12, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Good question!

Before the birth of God's Son all other nations have their different Gods so each nation fights for whatever their God wants {Micah 4:5} but when Jesus walked the earth he commanded his disciples to take the Good News of God's government to all the nations {Matthew 28-19-20; Act 1:8} surely worshipers of the same God (Jehovah) will be found throughout the earth so there's no need fighting again because God's people will be found everywhere worshiping Him in Spirit and Truth! John 4:20-24

May you have PEACE! smiley
Wtf are you saying?
We are talking about israelites here, not 'all other nations'

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Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:06am On Feb 13, 2023
jaephoenix:

… yet there were JW mol@sters which your elders protected from the law grin
Have you found any in your neighbourhood?
If so make the report and press the charges it's evil carrying news from afar if you also have the same group in your community.
Today Islam is globally known as a terrorist religion and there is no country on this planet where Muslims are the majority that you won't find them terrorizing people, why not use the same sense in this case?
I stand by my words there is no child molester JW around me! smiley
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:09am On Feb 13, 2023
jaephoenix:

Actually, many of those Yahweh ordered to be destroyed were people who were going about their bizness, and not harassing the israelites

Study the Bible well before arguing there is no nation Jehovah ordered the Israelites to attack that's innocent! smiley
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:11am On Feb 13, 2023
jaephoenix:

Who are 'the enemies of pure worship'? Be specific

They are nations that either attacked Israelites from the day Jehovah brought them out of Egypt or refuse to evacuate the premises the Israelites were ordered to establish pure worship. There are many nations that Jehovah warned them not to touch even their pin!
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16am On Feb 13, 2023
jaephoenix:

Wtf are you saying?
We are talking about israelites here, not 'all other nations'
I know my comments will always attract you but then read carefully before quoting me.

Israelites were the only nation Jehovah called to establish pure worship with them while all others are worshiping demons so if they have nothing to do with the Israelites Jehovah won't mind them so it's the way they treated the Israelites and the place where he established pure worship that is causing the problem back then! smiley
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 10:43am On Feb 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Have you found any in your neighbourhood?
If so make the report and press the charges it's evil carrying news from afar if you also have the same group in your community.
Today Islam is globally known as a terrorist religion and there is no country on this planet where Muslims are the majority that you won't find them terrorizing people, why not use the same sense in this case?
I stand by my words there is no child molester JW around me! smiley
Which one do you stand for?
No JW mol@ster around you

OR

No JW mol@ster exists?

Be specific
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 10:44am On Feb 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Study the Bible well before arguing there is no nation Jehovah ordered the Israelites to attack that's innocent! smiley
So what were the crimes of the Amalekites, Jebusites etc
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 10:46am On Feb 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


They are nations that either attacked Israelites from the day Jehovah brought them out of Egypt or refuse to evacuate the premises the Israelites were ordered to establish pure worship. There are many nations that Jehovah warned them not to touch even their pin!
1. Jebusites etc never attacked Israelites first
2. No one gave the Jebusites a quit notice before attacking them
3. Can you name the nations Yahweh said not to attack
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 10:47am On Feb 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

I know my comments will always attract you but then read carefully before quoting me.

Israelites were the only nation Jehovah called to establish pure worship with them while all others are worshiping demons so if they have nothing to do with the Israelites Jehovah won't mind them so it's the way they treated the Israelites and the place where he established pure worship that is causing the problem back then! smiley
How did those nations treat the Israelites?
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:46pm On Feb 13, 2023
jaephoenix:

Which one do you stand for?
No JW mol@ster around you
OR
No JW mol@ster exists?

Be specific

Which one do you stand for?

You've not seen any God
Or
There is no God?
Be specific
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:48pm On Feb 13, 2023
jaephoenix:

So what were the crimes of the Amalekites, Jebusites etc
Be specific because the story is much which nation do you want us to discuss about among all the nations God asked the Israelites to sack?
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:06pm On Feb 13, 2023
jaephoenix:

1. Jebusites etc never attacked Israelites first
2. No one gave the Jebusites a quit notice before attacking them
3. Can you name the nations Yahweh said not to attack

Finally Jehovah said to me, ‘You have gone around this mountain long enough. Now turn north. And give this command to the people: “You will pass by the border of your brothers, the descendants of Eʹsau, who are dwelling in Seʹir, and they will be afraid of you, and you must be very careful.Do not engage in hostilities with them, for I will not give you any of their land, not even the space of a footprint, because I have given Mount Seʹir to Eʹsau as his possession. You should give them money for the food you will eat, and you should pay for the water you will drink. Deuteronomy 2:2-6

All those dwelling in Canaan already got the message to evacuate the premises through what God did to Egyptians that's why the Gibeonites took the initiative to go and make peace with God's people! Joshua 9:3-13

Back then the mighty nations sack weak ones so their general believe is that the mightiest God is behind the mightiest army so once they have heard of Jehovah's dealing with the most powerful nation of their time there's no reason to wait before making peace with the people whose God is the mightiest!
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 4:55pm On Feb 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Which one do you stand for?

You've not seen any God
Or
There is no God?
Be specific
These questions aren't synonymous. And yes there’s no god.
So please answer the question
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 4:56pm On Feb 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:

Be specific because the story is much which nation do you want us to discuss about among all the nations God asked the Israelites to sack?
I just listed them. Start with anyone
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 4:57pm On Feb 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Finally Jehovah said to me, ‘You have gone around this mountain long enough. Now turn north. And give this command to the people: “You will pass by the border of your brothers, the descendants of Eʹsau, who are dwelling in Seʹir, and they will be afraid of you, and you must be very careful.Do not engage in hostilities with them, for I will not give you any of their land, not even the space of a footprint, because I have given Mount Seʹir to Eʹsau as his possession. You should give them money for the food you will eat, and you should pay for the water you will drink. Deuteronomy 2:2-6

All those dwelling in Canaan already got the message to evacuate the premises through what God did to Egyptians that's why the Gibeonites took the initiative to go and make peace with God's people! Joshua 9:3-13

Back then the mighty nations sack weak ones so their general believe is that the mightiest God is behind the mightiest army so once they have heard of Jehovah's dealing with the most powerful nation of their time there's no reason to wait before making peace with the people whose God is the mightiest!
Your point?
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:18pm On Feb 13, 2023
jaephoenix:

These questions aren't synonymous. And yes there’s no god.
So please answer the question

Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) embarassed

Well i know you're just trying to crack jokes with that but please if you're the type who easily gets annoyed when someone disturbing you with questions suddenly turn everything to joke don't bring up anything like Flying Spaghetti because the next time you do i will always turn your questions into jokes no matter how angry you may be.

There is no child molester JW because i've not seen one therefore all those stories could easily be compared to what people around you are saying about God/Gods and since you never experience one you too never believe! smiley
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:20pm On Feb 13, 2023
jaephoenix:

I just listed them. Start with anyone

jaephoenix:

Your point?

Back in those days the mightiest warriors have whatever they want so since all those nations have heard about the mighty Israelites whose God is the Almighty they're not supposed to wait until they're told to evacuate the land the Israelites were coming to inherit! smiley
Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 8:33pm On Feb 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:


Flying Spaghetti Monster (FSM) embarassed

Well i know you're just trying to crack jokes with that but please if you're the type who easily gets annoyed when someone disturbing you with questions suddenly turn everything to joke don't bring up anything like Flying Spaghetti because the next time you do i will always turn your questions into jokes no matter how angry you may be.

There is no child molester JW because i've not seen one therefore all those stories could easily be compared to what people around you are saying about God/Gods and since you never experience one you too never believe! smiley
If I see videos or photo of Yahweh creating the world, why won't I believe he exists?
In the case of these links…

https://www.hughjames.com/blog/jehovah%E2%80%99s-witness-elder-sentenced-to-nine-years-in-prison-for-sexual-abuse

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-46131196.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1082136

… are you saying they were wrongly accused and jailed without evidence, even when they confessed?

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Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by jaephoenix(m): 8:37pm On Feb 13, 2023
MaxInDHouse:




Back in those days the mightiest warriors have whatever they want so since all those nations have heard about the mighty Israelites whose God is the Almighty they're not supposed to wait until they're told to evacuate the land the Israelites were coming to inherit! smiley
Lol. So they when they hear the Israelites have a 'mighty god', they should have immediately abandoned their homes and ran into the mountains?
Lol, Max, you really are smart guy grin
You're making perfect sense

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Re: Being An Atheist Is It An Excuse To Be Wicked? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:34pm On Feb 13, 2023
jaephoenix:

If I see videos or photo of Yahweh creating the world, why won't I believe he exists?
In the case of these links…

https://www.hughjames.com/blog/jehovah%E2%80%99s-witness-elder-sentenced-to-nine-years-in-prison-for-sexual-abuse

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-46131196.amp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1082136

… are you saying they were wrongly accused and jailed without evidence, even when they confessed?

Have you seen the video of a JW commiting it?

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