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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Amigoss: 11:50am On Apr 08, 2023 |
izzou: They couldn't when COVID lockdown happened 🌚ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 11:53am On Apr 08, 2023 |
The funny thing is, the healthcare problem is not unique to Nigeria. Or even Africa. The reason these countries post better numbers is not because they stop doctors from leaving. It is because they have robust systems in place. Instead of addressing the issue of building better systems in the healthcare sector you want to enslave the people who are least responsible for whatever metrics you want to post and are even the reason they aren't worse than what we're seeing. Nna ehn 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:55am On Apr 08, 2023 |
Unlimited22: You don't have to blame me in any way. I really did not want to get into this argument again, but you all kept hammering on it like anybody supporting the bill has nothing to lose. I saw your point yesterday, but all i keep seeing is how selfish and wicked people supporting the bill are. I support the bill, sir. You want to japa? Please do. 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 11:58am On Apr 08, 2023 |
Unlimited22: Well, you're in luck. It is just 5 years. That bill will stand, Insha Otem You can change your course if you want 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:00pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Itsrm: All the 3 candidates said they were going to remove subsidy during the campaign. Wait make Tinubu enter and remove the subsidy and see how they will begin to blame APC people as if the principal they supported didn’t subscribe to it. Me myself is even against the subsidy removal 3 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sod09(m): 12:00pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
izzou:The politicians also put themselves first, so it's survival of the fittest Nothing bad if all doctors want to leave 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 12:00pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
izzou:LMAO I said nothing about people being selfish and wicked. I even told larride that I'm not faulting the intention behind the bill, but that the lawmakers are going about it in the worst way possible and they should at least engage the people who will be most affected by the bill. Go and look at schedules and equipment of doctors even in the so-called big hospitals. Bro, you cannot want me to work 120-hour weeks for FIVE FVCKING YEARS and mean well for me. Have you ever been attended to by someone who's sleep-deprived and perpetually tired? I no dey point fingers at anybody but if the airmax fits, rock am well abeg 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 12:01pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
izzou:It is just 5 years indeed. You're shit out of luck. Your wait times will increase from hours to days. You never see anything yet. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:01pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Itsrm: Like..... I intentionally kept quiet yesterday because i can imagine the insensitivity on their part. But till now, all i see is how everybody supporting the bill is wicked and selfish. Well, i am wicked and selfish, and i want to live forever That bill will be passed, and you will add another 5 years here. Nonsense 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:02pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Harsh as it may sound, no one forced anyone to study medicine or become a doctor. My work has no public holiday, no Christmas, no new year, nothing. My phone must always be on because I can be called at 1am to attend to issues. You can't even go on leave in December except you're a senior manager. I'm not complaining because I knew what I was getting myself into. Those who genuinely love to practice medicine will continue to study it and will be glad to give 5 years back after they are done. Those who had to study it due to parental pressure can go and learn data analysis and become a tech bro. It is what it is. 4 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 12:03pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Lol I even thought MDCAN and NARD would keep quiet Them don already start lobbying |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:04pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Unlimited22: The moment i can afford medical tourism abroad, i will pray for the bill to be reversed. You can keep increasing the wait time to decades. Abi no be you dey the office? That's on you, not me 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:04pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Both of una go still come down to my solution sha. 😂 The bill supporters will shift ground Those against the bill will also shift ground. Na the middle I sit down like this. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sod09(m): 12:04pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
During ebola health workers sacrificed their health many died, nothing was done to their family During COVID many health workers sacrificed their lives some died our politicians embezzled the money, some kept parliament to expire but health workers should stay because 1 million will die Make Una they play 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 12:04pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Itsrm:I would be glad to give even 15 years if practice here was even the least bit sane. You think those who leave don't work hard? Or they just reach there and the money starts flowing in? Abi they earn in foreign currency and spend in naira? |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 12:06pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
izzou:No be me dey the office. No one is In the office. We're all data analysts now G 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 12:07pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
sod09:Lol We no even see PPE use work. During Covid days we will come back from work and remove all our clothes outside and even baff for backyard make we no mistakenly infect people wey dey house 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 12:07pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
larride:You don turn fencist abi 😎 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:07pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
sod09: The health sector needs total overhaul urgently. Make Tinubu just give us Prof Akin Abayomi abeg. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:07pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
larride: You don't even need Tinubu to enter and remove it before you know what will happen. Nigeria Labour Congress has already done a summersault that subsidy removal will be resisted. I pray they succeed anyway because I'm heavily reliant on fuel and it will take the grace of God to get any significant raise at work to compensate. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 12:08pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
izzou: There are so many reasons why this policy will not give you the expected outcome. Let me just list a few. 1) You don't become a paediatrician within 5 years of graduation, so this bill if passed into law WILL NOT ensure that there is a paediatrician for your child. 2) The average work experience of doctors japaing is probably about 5 or more years already so the actual positive effect of this bill in terms of adding to the medical work force will be minimal. Most japa doctors spend close to 5 years already in Nigeria before exiting so the only thing this bill will do is antagonize the few that want to leave early by its similarity to indentured servitude/modern slavery. 3) Even if you are abkle to keep them back for 5 years what you will get will be a situation whereby doctor exit after the 5-year period will explode beyond what we have now, leading to a situation whereby only inexperienced doctors would be left in the country. 4) You will also have some medical graduates leaving the country for other African countries (and Caribbean countries) to start work as house officers and getting their full registration after 1yr rather than wasting 5 years in Nigeria to get the same full registration. You will be losing these ones from Year 0 not Year 5. We have not mentioned the illegality involved in witholding full registration form doctors when the standard practice in all the sane parts of the world is to award full registration after completion of internship/housemanship. Then there is the fact that all other public university students are also "subsidized" so i wonder why only doctors are being targeted to bear the brunt of a failed system. If we ask now, people will say doctors' jobs are special and they need to make the sacrifice. If we ask for better conditions and pay now, the same people will say doctors are not doing any special job and should go and sit down jo. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sod09(m): 12:08pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Laslas everyone na hypocrite Politicians have the best thing in this world, doctors want to be comfortable but they shouldn't because it's their job to save lives What's the politicians duty then if I may ask 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 12:09pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
larride:This is what we've been saying. If you're seeing healthcare as an emergency, then address it as such. Start the overhaul from there and spread to other sectors but someone thinks I'm pointing fingers at him because I'm speaking out against being a slave. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:10pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Unlimited22: Your fcking business, sir You can even do Yahoo if you want. If you cannot respect anybody's view, I don't see why you should respect yours Till then, 5 years for Doctors 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by larride(m): 12:10pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Unlimited22: On this particular topic, my stand is clear. If the intention of the bill is to stop brain drain in the health sector then the best thing to do is to do total revamp and not doing cosmetic facelift that doesn’t even touch the root cause of the issue. 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 12:10pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
izzou:And no pediatricians for you 1 Like |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sod09(m): 12:10pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Unlimited22:Imagine just imagine The thought of saving another person life while you are thinking of yours too at the same time And then we have some people sitting on a round table planning on how to chop money for the health purpose |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:11pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
afrodoc2: No wahala, sir Let us try that one first. 2 Likes |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Unlimited22: 12:11pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
larride:The thing is crystal clear The intentions of the lawmakers are good but this is like painting a cemetery white. The putrid bones are still inside. |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:11pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by sod09(m): 12:11pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
larride:Is he not the commissioner for health in lagos |
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by izzou(m): 12:12pm On Apr 08, 2023 |
Oh now, the intentions of the lawmakers are good. But for two days, it wasn't good abi? |
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