NuCypher:


Gerrard59, my man, is that you?

Nor loud this thing na.

Quenncee:
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Who are you warning self? If ona travel outside, you folks will start feeling like demigod. Mind you, some of us go to same country just for shopping and come back to our green white green.

It will never be well with you if you take a life you can't create.

If you can't do without her, then marry her but adopt your children. In the same vein, remove her womb to avoid impregnating her, since is her character you are most concerned about.

You're the same people that lynch a thief for stealing a phone or a necklace.

How can you be so fixated and care about lives that aren't even born but ignore the ones that are already here?

Stop putting on the front that you care about human lives. Because Nigerians generally do not. Human lives are cheap in Nigeria.

SonofGod231:
Just last year I encountered a two yr old baby crying and rolling helplessly on one of the beds in a general ward at one teaching hospital... Doctors and Nurses were no more giving attention to the baby and the mother....When the screams became unbearably loud,I called a nurse to know why they just ignored the baby and I was told the baby was SS and they've done their best... Apparently,both parents were AS.
OP,Don't be silly and unfortunate ohh.

What a zoo Nigeria is.

They condemned the child to hell.

They couldn't give pain relief to a sick child seriously??

I did. You dated her gor 5yrs and just only know her genotype recently.

If you gonna have a long-term relationship, you must know its heading somewhere otherwise dont do it for bf/gf sake.

You can do what you wanna do but if you give birth to a sickler, you'll not be forgiven because you know beforehand

Bolt458:
dis you even read my write up?

pls guy run, dont be carried away by love As and As is SS child

searchlight:
You didn't read where he said that government takes care of such bill. You wouldn't read before jumping to conclusions. Beside CVS in Nigeria is 250k plus or minus 50k. That's not too expensive for an average family

The second one isn't covered

FalseProphet1:
As a highly religious person, I'm extremely offended by this post knowing fully well that there's power in the name of Jesus. Anyways, just send me a message and I'll pray on the pregnancy and your SS baby would become AA.

This I have seen.

I thought the op warned people like you to keep off, is it really too hard?

Bolt458:
I am not writing this for religious people to come with their funny talks, I am just putting this out here to hear from people who might have tried this methods or who heard about this methods and still proceeded or did not. I want to hear your experience. I have been dating someone for 5 years now, it happened that I began to see her as someone I would want to spend my life with. Last year we did our genotype test and we were both AS. Now , I know some of you will say this should be the first thing you ask when you meet someone but c’mon, would you say people in university that are dating now, would ask their sef that question? That theory is only feasible when you are single and ready to get married and want to start a new relationship, then you can always ask, but we all know some of our relationships started when we no Dey even see marriage in the nearest future, all of a sudden you just see them as the right person and you take the bold step. Now, I had to meet my family doctor here in Canada, I explained to him my current situation and he referred me to a GENETIC COUNSELOR. I am trying to take the necessary steps cause I am not ready to bring in a child with Sickle cell to this world, and I am not leaving anything to faith. A fone appointment was set with the counselor and we spoke at length. She told me that in every foetus, there is a 25% chance that we can get an SS child. Now , how do we mitigate this percentage to the barest minimum I asked as I am not even ready to bring in a sickler to this world. She gave me three options, I would rather say two because the last involves test when the baby comes, and that is out of the question.

Option 1:
A) CVS: They take a sample of the fluid in the womb through her vagina, at 12 weeks to test, if it’s good then fine, if not we have to terminate.

OR

B) At 16 weeks, they take the fluid using a needle directly from her womb, and if it’s SS , they terminate. Both procedures are cover by the government and we don’t need to pay a dime.

Now, she assured me that abortion is a very safe procedure if done properly, and it is even a bigger risk that one can die from a penicillin injection or carrying a pregnancy to term than any harm during an abortion.I know many people would come here and say abortion is this and that but let us be frank to ourselves. If you were told that the child in your womb would have cerebral palsy, or Down syndrome or a neurological disorder, would you still keep that pregnancy? Is there a 100% assurance that two AA people would give birth to a healthy baby? I have come to a realization that pregnancy is just a risk that people take, cus you really don’t know how your child would turn out.


Option 2:
PGD. This is just like IVF, where they would select the genotype before they insert back to the womb. She told me the government doesn’t cover this, and it could cost between $10K- $40k. However she mentioned, just like IVf, it is not guaranteed as it can fail and your money is gone.

I discussed this with my girl in Nigeria and she said she was fine with option 1a. I then asked her, that if the first, second are SS would she still remove it. She accepted. I would not lie to you, this girl is everything I want in a woman. I am not just looking at just love because I know love fades with time, but she is a really nice person, and has a good character. She has always been like this from my days in Nigeria because I was with her before I moved outside. Now after finding out our genotype, I tried to get into a relationship with AA. The first one Dey nigeria, she is a nice person, beautiful, but I just didn’t like her or feel attracted to her. She got tire and we just free ourselves, the second one is here in Canada, I just don’t like this one . Please note, I never slept with any of these ladies because I feel it’s not fair.


Now my question is for those who knew all this and still proceeded, how did it work out for you?

I repeat, don’t come here to tell me about how abortion is this and dat. Cus I know if they tell any of you that your child would be abnormal, 90% of you will go for the abortion

I love your courage and this is what we should be talking about not those talks of not marrying.

So back to the matter, from a medical point of view I would advise you to do selective IVF, the good think about this is, this procedures are available in Nigeria and far cheaper than Canada, meaning you could marry your girl and try the IVF here in Nigeria.


Also the first options are very very possible and you both can exploit it.

In summary, if you see her as a wife you want don't allow genotype dissolve it.

Let me ask this, what if both of you were AA and after marriage she was unable to get pregnant will you not opt for IVF?

Bolt458:
I am not writing this for religious people to come with their funny talks, I am just putting this out here to hear from people who might have tried this methods or who heard about this methods and still proceeded or did not. I want to hear your experience. I have been dating someone for 5 years now, it happened that I began to see her as someone I would want to spend my life with. Last year we did our genotype test and we were both AS. Now , I know some of you will say this should be the first thing you ask when you meet someone but c’mon, would you say people in university that are dating now, would ask their sef that question? That theory is only feasible when you are single and ready to get married and want to start a new relationship, then you can always ask, but we all know some of our relationships started when we no Dey even see marriage in the nearest future, all of a sudden you just see them as the right person and you take the bold step. Now, I had to meet my family doctor here in Canada, I explained to him my current situation and he referred me to a GENETIC COUNSELOR. I am trying to take the necessary steps cause I am not ready to bring in a child with Sickle cell to this world, and I am not leaving anything to faith. A fone appointment was set with the counselor and we spoke at length. She told me that in every foetus, there is a 25% chance that we can get an SS child. Now , how do we mitigate this percentage to the barest minimum I asked as I am not even ready to bring in a sickler to this world. She gave me three options, I would rather say two because the last involves test when the baby comes, and that is out of the question.

Option 1:
A) CVS: They take a sample of the fluid in the womb through her vagina, at 12 weeks to test, if it’s good then fine, if not we have to terminate.

OR

B) At 16 weeks, they take the fluid using a needle directly from her womb, and if it’s SS , they terminate. Both procedures are cover by the government and we don’t need to pay a dime.

Now, she assured me that abortion is a very safe procedure if done properly, and it is even a bigger risk that one can die from a penicillin injection or carrying a pregnancy to term than any harm during an abortion.I know many people would come here and say abortion is this and that but let us be frank to ourselves. If you were told that the child in your womb would have cerebral palsy, or Down syndrome or a neurological disorder, would you still keep that pregnancy? Is there a 100% assurance that two AA people would give birth to a healthy baby? I have come to a realization that pregnancy is just a risk that people take, cus you really don’t know how your child would turn out.


Option 2:
PGD. This is just like IVF, where they would select the genotype before they insert back to the womb. She told me the government doesn’t cover this, and it could cost between $10K- $40k. However she mentioned, just like IVf, it is not guaranteed as it can fail and your money is gone.

I discussed this with my girl in Nigeria and she said she was fine with option 1a. I then asked her, that if the first, second are SS would she still remove it. She accepted. I would not lie to you, this girl is everything I want in a woman. I am not just looking at just love because I know love fades with time, but she is a really nice person, and has a good character. She has always been like this from my days in Nigeria because I was with her before I moved outside. Now after finding out our genotype, I tried to get into a relationship with AA. The first one Dey nigeria, she is a nice person, beautiful, but I just didn’t like her or feel attracted to her. She got tire and we just free ourselves, the second one is here in Canada, I just don’t like this one . Please note, I never slept with any of these ladies because I feel it’s not fair.


Now my question is for those who knew all this and still proceeded, how did it work out for you?

I repeat, don’t come here to tell me about how abortion is this and dat. Cus I know if they tell any of you that your child would be abnormal, 90% of you will go for the abortion

Op. follow your mind , the life we live alone is a big risk so people here discouraging you don’t even understand the life they themselves are living in. I happen to know a lot about all you explained, in my case I gave my girl all these options she rejected them. We went our separate ways, the story gets interesting after that , this world have a lot of twist and turns sha.

Quenncee:
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Who are you warning self? If ona travel outside, you folks will start feeling like demigod. Mind you, some of us go to same country just for shopping and come back to our green white green.

It will never be well with you if you take a life you can't create.

If you can't do without her, then marry her but adopt your children. In the same vein, remove her womb to avoid impregnating her, since is her character you are most concerned about.

on top everything, na dat one u pick. Envy just full pple mind. I argue say you Dey come here come shop. You seem like d kinda person who would see your friend succeed and would be angry

Most guys are talking about continuous abortion, these abortions are safe and will be done legally. 25% chance in every pregnancy of having an SS baby is a risk alot of people have taken and nothing happened
To me, so long as the girl made her choice without any form of threats or coercion then allow her do whatever it takes to make her own family.

Why not not gamble on these first by bringing her over as sign of compensating her your in mind, then try studying her canadian character first if she can be compertable and worth you going through all this..
Then if she passes your text then you can happy go through but if not then is for your good to satisfy your inner peace and go on to look for your better match

In my about 13years as a medik, I met a patient or a couple few months ago who their story is the weirdest, most stupid and at d same time most hilarious even a baby can tell.

This man is married to 2 wives.
Himself and the two wives are all AS.
They 3 or shoukd i say the two wives bire him abouth about 6 (six) SS.

One of d days their 2 kids had crisis at same time and was brought to our facility and I happen to be d GP on duty. As a concerned someone who think critically, I lost my cold and engagedd second wife in a heart to heart discussion.
Could u imagine what my ears heard? She said she and her husband knew they were AS but that her fiancè (now husband) told her that his Alfa (cleric) said she is d man's destined wife. As I listened to her nonsense story I didn't know when i asked her what d so-called Alfa told the first wife and she said she never asked.
I then told her that indeed she is his destiny helper and not just his destiny.

Now the bottom line is that in this part of the world, we have been blindfolded or should I say majority had been washed into stupidity all in d name of religious respect/ belief and cultural stupidity.

How can an adult open his eyes wide and walk into fire?

NuCypher:


Ge.rrard59, my man, is that you?

I don't reside in Canada;
I am AA;
I am single.

Bolt458:
I am not writing this for religious people to come with their funny talks, I am just putting this out here to hear from people who might have tried this methods or who heard about this methods and still proceeded or did not. I want to hear your experience. I have been dating someone for 5 years now, it happened that I began to see her as someone I would want to spend my life with. Last year we did our genotype test and we were both AS. Now , I know some of you will say this should be the first thing you ask when you meet someone but c’mon, would you say people in university that are dating now, would ask their sef that question? That theory is only feasible when you are single and ready to get married and want to start a new relationship, then you can always ask, but we all know some of our relationships started when we no Dey even see marriage in the nearest future, all of a sudden you just see them as the right person and you take the bold step. Now, I had to meet my family doctor here in Canada, I explained to him my current situation and he referred me to a GENETIC COUNSELOR. I am trying to take the necessary steps cause I am not ready to bring in a child with Sickle cell to this world, and I am not leaving anything to faith. A fone appointment was set with the counselor and we spoke at length. She told me that in every foetus, there is a 25% chance that we can get an SS child. Now , how do we mitigate this percentage to the barest minimum I asked as I am not even ready to bring in a sickler to this world. She gave me three options, I would rather say two because the last involves test when the baby comes, and that is out of the question.

Option 1:
A) CVS: They take a sample of the fluid in the womb through her vagina, at 12 weeks to test, if it’s good then fine, if not we have to terminate.

OR

B) At 16 weeks, they take the fluid using a needle directly from her womb, and if it’s SS , they terminate. Both procedures are cover by the government and we don’t need to pay a dime.

Now, she assured me that abortion is a very safe procedure if done properly, and it is even a bigger risk that one can die from a penicillin injection or carrying a pregnancy to term than any harm during an abortion.I know many people would come here and say abortion is this and that but let us be frank to ourselves. If you were told that the child in your womb would have cerebral palsy, or Down syndrome or a neurological disorder, would you still keep that pregnancy? Is there a 100% assurance that two AA people would give birth to a healthy baby? I have come to a realization that pregnancy is just a risk that people take, cus you really don’t know how your child would turn out.


Option 2:
PGD. This is just like IVF, where they would select the genotype before they insert back to the womb. She told me the government doesn’t cover this, and it could cost between $10K- $40k. However she mentioned, just like IVf, it is not guaranteed as it can fail and your money is gone.

I discussed this with my girl in Nigeria and she said she was fine with option 1a. I then asked her, that if the first, second are SS would she still remove it. She accepted. I would not lie to you, this girl is everything I want in a woman. I am not just looking at just love because I know love fades with time, but she is a really nice person, and has a good character. She has always been like this from my days in Nigeria because I was with her before I moved outside. Now after finding out our genotype, I tried to get into a relationship with AA. The first one Dey nigeria, she is a nice person, beautiful, but I just didn’t like her or feel attracted to her. She got tire and we just free ourselves, the second one is here in Canada, I just don’t like this one . Please note, I never slept with any of these ladies because I feel it’s not fair.


Now my question is for those who knew all this and still proceeded, how did it work out for you?

I repeat, don’t come here to tell me about how abortion is this and dat. Cus I know if they tell any of you that your child would be abnormal, 90% of you will go for the abortion

So you and Sandra na AS??

Clash01:



So you and Sandra na AS??

This is lame

Come make i pray for you the As go change to BC or HIV

Where AS people are discovering this new courage and determination to date and plan to marry their fellow AS these days is very alarming ....

Oga if it didn't deh , it didn't deh .

Bite the bullet and move on , go your separate ways , it's better than making the mistake of bringing an SS child into the World or turning your wife to be into a lab rat whom you Inject needles into her womb and kpekus anyhow for needless experiments , committing abortion with reckless abandon....

Oga move on , forget about that illusion you call love ,it's not worth it .

Ask yourself this question ,,,, if one of you drops dead now (God forbid ) , will the other not marry another person ?

FalseProphet1:
As a highly religious person, I'm extremely offended by this post knowing fully well that there's power in the name of Jesus. Anyways, just send me a message and I'll pray on the pregnancy and your SS baby would become AA.

This I have seen.

By your name how can people believe you even do if you are real?

IconicR:
Why will you subject somebody's daughter to so much stress when you can easily go your separate ways.

why you mumu for God seek
She is okay with it

IamMobisola:
Something is glaring and yet you two want to put your head. It is the lady I pity the most because after terminating two or three pregnancies all in the name of trying to have a child that’s not SS, then you will go and impregnate someone else that’s AA just because you want to have a child while she stays in the marriage as an “understanding wife” suffering and smiling.

Love is never enough to keep a marriage, it takes more than that. When issues become complex, na there una go know.

You do know they can give birth to 4 children straight who aren't SS? Its all permutations, and besides treatment there is free which is a huge plus. For me this is the perfect situation to give AS AS marriage a chance. If both parties are ready for it no problem at all.

IconicR:
She's not in right thinking mode

you must be a foolish man
Ah

Zupay:


She is okay with it because she wan relocate to Canada.

foolish people full this nairaland she has been with him for 5 years and see your stupid thinking

CaptainFM1:


I could see you've been doing research on your own. In all, you never detached your emotion from your research which is making you to think you can gamble it. Yeah, almost everything in life is risky that's why you have to make an informed decision.

If you know anything about "risk-management" whether in business or any other spheres of life, you would know that the best way to manage risk is to "transfer" it. And broadly speaking now, you're both a risk to one another.

The 25% explanation is often misunderstood. You can have 10 children and all the 10 can be SS. You have to err on the side of caution. It will only pain you for 5 or 10years max if you allow her to go elsewhere and you look for someone else that you're compatible with.

Funny thing is same logic applies to all the other occurrences, they can have 10 children and all are AA or AS. Life isn't only black we should not gloss over the white parts because we are scared of the dark parts

zezebabs:
Myself and my partner, we both AS, we discover after 4 years of dating, we both stupid and in love, lucky we didn't have SS child, but i have seen people who not so lucky, with this thing i got away with.

If i will give this advise to my blood brother, i will say both of you should separate, when you meet someone again, first thing to do is go to hospital , check for genotype, and AIDS, this word is dangerous right now, as women don't even stay with one man.

You might think my ideal is stupid, i have seen SS child with my own eye, they always place a curse on there parent for been selfish !!!!!!

But his case is different from yours no? He isn't blindingly running into it. He has made inquiries and have been given working steps to take 1 largely free the other expensive. So I feel he is better equipped to tackle it than you were, so let him breath. He can as well be lucky to get 2 non SS kids back to back

holushollah:
The most difficult part of the job has been solved. The agreement. You both need to be ready physically and emotionally. I have always believed that I am AA. When I was about to marry, my babe is AS. I had to check again during our marriage counseling. Lo and behold, I have been carrying a wrong result since. I am actually AS.

I saw my world wanting to crumble right before me. The thought of letting go is taunting too. I had a conversation with her, we later agreed to go ahead with both parents knowledge and acceptance. Six years counting now, the first child is AS and the second is AA. Family planning since then.

Why am I sharing, you both need to be ready and face the fear together. If there is any doubt that the other party will not be able to handle the worst, PLEASE LET GO.

Adoption is also an option.

1Sharon:
You have a 50% chance of having a kid without sickle cell.

You live in a sane country, take advantage of their technology!

Go for pre implantation genetic testing. In the UK here, it's free if the woman is under 40.

Check and see if they have the same scheme in Canada.

More like 75%

GistFullGround:
This OP is living in a world of denial. He is trying to justify why he cannot let go of his girl. He should go ahead and marry her Mr. AS & Mrs. AS.

Even people in Nigeria know the implications yet you that is in Canada is yet to fully understand.

You are wicked soul and an ignoramus!

I dear say your the ignorant one here. Because he has actually taken time to learn about it and has been giving working steps.

FalseProphet1:
As a highly religious person, I'm extremely offended by this post knowing fully well that there's power in the name of Jesus. Anyways, just send me a message and I'll pray on the pregnancy and your SS baby would become AA.

This I have seen.

Wayo wayo.. where were you when Nigerians were looking for Naira notes and fuel?? Why didn your prayers make those scarce items to be in abundance?

1. You don' t ask for opinion and you gag some opinions already.
2. No believer would subscribe to any forms of abortion no matter what stage
3. Before any1 answers, think of that girl/lady/woman as your DUAGHTER/SISTER, et al
4. Best option: if my people perish because of lack of knowledge, why do you want to act stupid even with the knowledge you have already.
5. You are not yet married. Do go look for/search diligently... a compactible partner and move all. Same for all.
6. This story just reminded me of a very brilliant/intelligent/beautiful young girl (btw 13 & 15 yrs old) we were following up at Jakande Estate, Mile 2 (Amuwo-Odofin). A certain fateful day, I visited the family and when she came out, she was looking like an old 'young' girl somewhat shrinking. I asked, what was wrong, they told me: oh she's sick. It was later I realised it was SS Anaemia. The girl passed on.
7. Let me tell you something about these tests/experiment: sometimes they fail! Even after all the records show otherwise.
8. You will find someone else to love and cherish; same for her. Ok, what happens if either of you pass on, won't the other move on. Of course there are many cases of heart breaks, many cases of the other passing on, many cases of other moving on after travelling overseas,, many other cases ...
9. Once again...Don't be stupid, the pain/sorrow/wahala for SS no be here. Some families they only had one and that one child later on passed on. Don't be stupid!
10. If after all of this, una still wan go on...na una sabi!

As someone who has been in your shoes and I have buried my son who turned out to be SS , save yourself and look for someone else , doctors are not accurate with determining if a child is SS or AA from using fluids from womb. That process also has risk to unborn child