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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 9:17pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
Saddamochieng00:I see. Politics the dirty game. Two truths can coexist though. It could be that Ruto is disappointing to them and at thesame time, they are playing dirty politics using the tool of propaganda which is always dangerous in a fragile/tribal African state. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by vankelvin: 10:09pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
Says the fool meanwhile when you are asked to mention 4 things you know about Zanzibar (from head without browsing) the fool in you can only mention tourism,mumu IGpro1: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obiano13: 10:28pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
Saddamochieng00: Why do you always sound like a robot? You supposed to articulate your viewpoint not drop lame two liners like Roast Him Jim. Unfortunately idiots like you are the ones calling the shots these days.
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obiano13: 10:42pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
Dictator Kip Jong Un has finally smelled the coffee and decided to meet Raila for a tête-à-tête. My 2 shillings on this matter, Ruto must 1. Repeal all new taxes 2. Go back to the drawing board on the finance bill 3. Lower the cost of fuel, electricity 4. Run the government like someone who actually went to school. 5. No handshake 6. Stop pardoning jailed corrupt tribemates, let them rot in jail 7. Raila to remain in stiff opposition to keep this mega thief in check 8. Failure to which a revolution will sweep the thief out of power by next year FYI, this explains why Raila called off the demos. The shameless tax collector was talking to him via back channels to avert a catastrophe.
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obiano13: 10:59pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
I predicted this even before the election. Who gets the crown for most corrupt? The only person who will rescue Kenya from this incompetence is Raila and the opposition. This man is lost and cannot be allowed to run the country aground. By all means. The idiot unanimously withdrew ALL corruption cases filed under the previous regime. Is this not madness? 1 Like
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obiano13: 11:24pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
Kazikazi: I dont blame you my friend. You dont know much about Kenya and Ruto specifically. Ruto has achieved NOTHING in governance to warrant anyone expecting him to achieve anything now. During the drafting of the 2010 constitution he was in the NO camp that lost. He was in favor of the colonial constitution left by the British that had no bill of rights. The man loathes anything that doesnt glorify murder and trumping of the common man. Even today the new dispensation pains him. During the repressive KANU era he was firmly Moi's right hand man heading YK92 (Youth for KANU 1992 that was based on Hitler Youth of the Nazis) where he was responsible for brutalizing, maiming, and murdering political opponents. That is his only KNOWN achievement. The guy has no friends regionally. Suluhu hates his black @ss like a plague, Sudan are daring him to a duel, he tried opening the Somali border but the Soms are not interested, in Ethiopia Abiy is Uhuru's bossom buddy, cant even talk to Ruto, IMF is on his neck, they are telling him to stick to the high taxes, US have told him unless he recognizes LGBT he's getting no more money, locally he is repressing the common man and giving tax breaks to the rich, he withdrew all corruption cases by brute force, the church is now nearly unanimously against him. Somebody said the presidency doesn't change who you are, it reveals who you are. What you are seeing now is the real Ruto. The Ruto you heard during the campaigns was tailored to woo votes from the uninformed masses. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obiano13: 11:45pm On Jul 25, 2023 |
Kazikazi: Those are mostly young Kenyans who dont know where we've come from as a country. Kenyans are being picked up from the streets by plain clothes secret police simply for saying they hate the regime and charged with all manner of trumped up charges. Right where Moi left in 2003. But Kenyans on every front are VICIOUSLY fighting back. The other day The Law Society of Kenya (LSK) warned their members working in the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (govt prosecution office) that from now henceforth, should they make decisions that betray public trust, undermine the rule of law and bring disrepute to the legal profession, the LSK shall have no other option but to issue them with Certificates of Dishonour, and immediately commence proceedings to remove them from the roll of advocates. That means they cannot operate legally and cannot prosecute court cases against any Kenyan. That was after Ruto's rogue regime started charging average Kenyans protesting his autocracy on flimsy charges. The lawyers are telling the guy if you want to misuse the criminal justice system DO NOT do it here. Find another country. In one case a mere blogger was charged with narcotics that were planted on her after arrest. The judge simply looked at the case and told the prosecutor and govt to F themselves. She was released ASAP without bail, bond or any other conditions. The egg on Jambazi Ruto's face!
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Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Saddamochieng00(m): 12:09am On Jul 26, 2023 |
Obiano13: Mind telling the Nigerians why your man was a no show for last week's protest(remember me predicting that beforehand ![]() I'm an honest man and I want to take a guess.....It's because he got no balls. He had no balls to face Kibaki in Sagana. He had no balls to face Uhuru in 2017. And he will never have the balls to take power in this country. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 7:24am On Jul 26, 2023 |
Shma2023:when did i say they have the exact same meaning? you are thumb sucking arguments I never even had to try an cover your stupidity, also again you are several million people off |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 8:35am On Jul 26, 2023 |
Typical Raila slowpoke - who have become embittered after losing elections for 70yrs. Ruto has done nothing but become the president - something Raila has spent a lifetime and havent got in. Ruto will definitely become greatest president kenya ever had - and Kenya will clamour for constitution to be changed come 2032 so he can rule for another decade. The rest of nonsense your write here dont even deserve response - for example. Ruto was key architect of the new constitution in Bomas and later in Naivasha - the agreement was kenya would adopt presidential system with strong regional gov. That was never done - as Raila compromised - and thought he was shoe-in for 2013. Once Raila lost 2013 - he has been trying ever since to talk about regional gov - and all the BBIs - while Ruto had told him in 2010 - that all minor remaining issues be hushed out - before the referendum. Now we have constitution that is very difficult to ammend - and whatever minor issues - cant be fixed. Obiano13: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 8:39am On Jul 26, 2023 |
You're dreaming. Ruto will not concede anything to Raila. Ruto is very principled and will do what he promised to do long time ago. 1) Create Office of opposition leader - Raila or Kalonzo can take that - have same privilege as minister - and sit in parliament. 2) Raila if he wants a political deal - the only deal available is Golden Handshake where he retires and hand Ruto ODM for a small fee - last I heard he wanted 10B KES - but now his stock has dropped - I think he will likely sell ODM to Ruto for 5B or less. So he has two options - Become Official Opposition Leader and get paid a salary - or finally retire after selling ODM to Ruto. Knowing his love for money - he will take the money. The other stuff about taxes, bla bla - those are non-issues - and water under the bridge. Obiano13: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 8:43am On Jul 26, 2023 |
He has been running on empty for far too long and I pity his supporters who have been taken through emotional rollercoaster that leads them nowhwere . Saddamochieng00: 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 8:51am On Jul 26, 2023 |
Ruto was clear from day one that his job was NOT to fight corruption. The fight against corruption must be institutionalized. Otherwise it will become a political - where gov leaves sacred cows - and go for opponents. Let kenya institutions charged with fighting corruptions fight corruption. What Ruto has done - whenever any scandal has come - he has swifly fired all those involved. That is where his power ends. He can only take administrative action. The biggest corruption is kenya is actually horizontal corruption - low level bribery when you need gov documents. The best way to fight corruption in that case is to computerize gov services. In six months - Ruto has made 5,000 gov services online. In the next few months almost all 7,000 gov services will be online and on your smartphone. You will not pay any cash in any gov office for any gov services - you pay electronically. This already has seen non-ordinary revenues (gov services user fee) increase tremendously. Gov revenues will grow - because we have seriously inefficient tax collector - this year target is to move from 2.4 trillion to 3 trillion. Kenya can double VAT collections with rolling out of technology ( Ruto borrowed Rwanda system - e-TIMS that already has seen great promises). Bla de bla. Worry about Suluhu - with her small brains. Ruto is collosus and kenya is on the right track. Kazikazi: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 8:58am On Jul 26, 2023 |
Poor kazi Kazi - even Oninons? I pity Tanzania and Uganda farmers who depend on kenya to sell their farm produce. In next one year - you better find a new market for your farm produces. This year tell your people to find new market for their maize. Next year it will be even worse. Ruto was minister of agriculture in 2008 - 2010 - and he fixed kenya agriculture. Right now - kenya is expected bumper maize harvest - next year it will be even greater. Kazikazi: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:29pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
jl115:Slash sign indicates affiliation or opposition. You certainly didn't imply the latter when you slashed projection with estimation (projection/estimation) while debunking Approximation. You started the game and I knocked the bottom out of such silly argument by inviting the definition of approximation, which is closer and far more accurate than estimation. I debunked the equality of projection to estimation _ and that left you dumber to the point of embarking on hooking straws. You must be slow to think that RATES are random numbers between 1 to 10, or 100k to 999k. In approximation, if you have 100M in your database, for me to give 91M I'm correct! ≤10. The range of 2% was not far from 7%. 2% is far from any figure above 20%, 40% or 100%. Yes, both are still millions. Even if the difference was negligible like 1%_ still the figure will be in millions. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:47pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
Boer, you must be having a terrible day in SA. ![]() Anyways, it's sickening how the majority of blacks in SA are destroying their country. Shackman, see how white soldiers have dominated SA. This is typically a white nation. Blacks in SA are nobodies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR5tNtOGM-8 |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 12:52pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
Shma2023:Now kazi should weep for black race. This is a typical case. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 2:26pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
Shma2023:You are debating with yourself again , literally having a schizophrenic episode......seek help 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 2:30pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
Shma2023:shifting goal posts and creating ret@rded narratives ain't going to change the fact that you got more ret@rded 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 3:48pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
jl115:Address the issue you m@ppet. Stop running like murife😂. |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Nobody: 3:52pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
jl115:Nope, I wasn't debating. I was teaching you. I had to point some few things out for your slow cerebellum to fathom. I never expected any response in that regard. ![]() |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obiano13: 4:57pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
Mkenya2019: What a BIG lie! Ruto was NOT a key architect of the new constitution! Do you think everyone is a Kipmeno? He opposed the constitution and lost miserably. 70 % of Kenyans said yes with the fossil Ruto claiming the rest. You cannot rewrite history. He was sacked twice in a span of two years, first as minister for agriculture for mega corruption scandals involving grains and sugar, then as Higher Education minister for more graft. Remember the maize scandal of 2008? At a time Kenyans were going hungry the agriculture ministry was riddled with corruption led by Ruto. That was when he went to cry in parliament to save his thiefing behind. In March 2009, CID were probing more corruption in the tea sector and over payments at KTDA. Kibaki moved him to the Education ministry where again he was fired due to a land scandal. This was actually the period he enriched himself with scandal after scandal. Ruto was actually the first public official fired under the new constitution due to corruption. https://www.voanews.com/a/kenyan-president-suspends-minister-facing-major-corruption-charges--105337848/128428.html https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2010-04-21/kenya-s-president-replaces-agriculture-minister-ruto-in-cabinet-reshuffle |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Mkenya2019: 9:09pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
You're a typical ignorant cartoon - and Kenyans are wiser than you - that is why Ruto is now president.I have known Ruto closely since 2001 - and all these events I can tell you in detail. 1) Constitution. CKRC under Yash Kai were nearly done - when Narc under kibaki came to power in 2003 - in 2005 - we had Bomas. Ruto was key participant. Key contentious issues as majimbo/fedaralism like in Nigeria. Eventually brilliant Dr Mbai - found a compromise - in Germany like devolution - not US or Nigeria federalism - but something close. Bomas had a consensus but Dr Mbai was shortly assisinated - Kibaki run to Kilifi and drafted his own constitution. Ruto and Raila joined hand to defeat that Kilifi or Wako draft in 2005. It around that time when Kibaki also arrested Ruto for corruption. Ruto rose from Mp to become Kalenjin leader - ODM is formed -kibaki is defeated but rig elections- Kalenjin go into murderous pogrom against kikuyus. 2) Constitution 2010 - Kenyans after the 2007 bloodletting were now ready for new constitution - Ruto had fallen out with Raila - big debate was around two issues - to go parliamentary system or presidential system. Kenya had been hybrid system of governance since jomo Kenyatta decided in 1964 to do away with parliamentary system of gov negotiated as part of Kenya independence in lancaster. Nobody wanted a hybdrid system or a mongrel system. Ruto and Raila - ODM were for parliamentary system - most kikuyu politician were for presidential system as they enjoyed demographic advantage. Eventually again Naivasha PSC were to hammer the final deal. The deal was simple presidential system but with strong devolution or federalism like US or Nigeria. Raila sold out - thinking he will inherit the powerful presidential system - as again like last year - all stars were aligned - Ruto and Uhuru were facing ICC crimes. After Naivasha - Ruto said - he agreed with 95% of new constitution - but 5% were a problem - and it will be very difficult to ammend the new constitution as it was designed to be almost un-ammendable. 3) Ruto tenure as Minister of Agriculture. In 2007 - Ruto was suppose to be Prime Minister under Raila gov. Raila sold out in Sagana and came out empty handed. Ruto accepted the then powerful ministry of agriculture. In 2008 just after violence in breadbasket of rift valley - there was inevitable maize shortage. Maize was ordered. Raila demanded to import maize. He got South Africa GMO maize - illegal in Kenya but he didnt care. The ship came and got rain on in Mozambique. Maize arrived rotten with afflotoxin - caricogenic - or cancer causing. A Dr Kioko of KEBS said the maize was unfit for human or animal consumption and must be destroyed. Raila tried all gymanstics including firing Dr Kioko - and eventually maize was re-exported to South Sudan by his son Fidel. To cover up his tracks - he blamed Ruto. 4) Ruto was voted the most hardworking minister of agriculture - in his tenure Kenya has maize surplus in 2009 - kibaki started liking him. Raila got even more jealous. He try to fire Ruto - Kibaki said No. He eventually transferred him to lowly ministry of higher education - kibaki gov remember had 72 ministers and ass miniser. Ruto fixed many things in agri sector....I need whole day to enumerate. 5) In ministry of higher education - Ruto in 1st week fixed the double intake problem - where kids waited for 2yrs to join university and many reforms. He started focus on TIVET and many things. 6) In 2010 - Ruto was official tried in ICC for crimes against humanity - and under new constitution - he had to resign from cabinet. He retain his position as Mp of Eldoret North. Ruto resume his MSC and quickly Phd studies in science - just to kill time - as he campaigned relentless. 7) Ruto and Uhuru floored Raila despite being mere Mps and under ICC and against all western countries. He was Deputy president for 10yrs. Now president for 10 plus years if he wants. I can go on and on but you're a slowpoke. Ruto is right now in Statehouse delivering for kenya. You and Raila are bitter outside. Only a slowpoke of highest order will think Ruto will fail. Ruto has NEVER failed in anything he does. He wakes up 4am and work until midnight. Few can match his energy, his brains, his oratory skills and his ambitions. Ruto will rule kenya until he decides he is tired. Obiano13: |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:00pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
Shma2023:No you were just being obtuse, taking things that are irrelevant to the argument like meaning of words that are basically synonyms to deflect from the fact that you were wrong, on several occasions 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by jl115: 10:01pm On Jul 26, 2023 |
Shma2023:Address what issue? what's the issue? enlighten me 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 4:17am On Jul 27, 2023 |
EKONGKING: Same way India is under performing in sports olympics gdp Per capita of 2600 Ppp per capita of 9k SA, Egypt Algeria also building their own |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by AfriqueDuZuid: 4:21am On Jul 27, 2023 |
EKONGKING: You can't be this stupid A fairly industrial country having 12 hours power cuts? You think the economy would survive that? We'd be on the 200b range gdp |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by EKONGKING: 9:41am On Jul 27, 2023 |
AfriqueDuZuid: Who fu@king care about sports ,think about ur country where 30 percent of population is extremely poor and violence and killings in cities are putting Chicago and Detroit to shame . |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by EKONGKING: 9:45am On Jul 27, 2023 |
AfriqueDuZuid: You are even more stupid . Your country is on verge of being a failed state , No power,no employment,rampant crimes along with multi Dimensional poverty rate of 30 percent . |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Obaaderemi2: 12:46pm On Jul 27, 2023 |
Nigerian ladies have destroyed the Aussies. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by GeneralDae: 12:51pm On Jul 27, 2023 |
Obaaderemi2:Oh boi. Nor be small thing oo 😄😂 Me sef I shock bekos I nor badu dat coach like that before. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenyans Are Far Behind Nigerians In Every Aspect – Fani-Kayode by Kazikazi: 1:10pm On Jul 27, 2023 |
Mkenya2019:Your people are crying because there is little onions coming from TZ hence the prices have shot up. Instead of weeping,you are here mocking the situation. If u were smart,you were to teach your farmers to farm onions. Anyway,we don't deal with onions alone. We have tons and tons of other stuff. We are currently teach other countries.... Reach these levels 2 Likes
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