iamoyindamola:
Ibime
You snooze you lose
Domina just went from 5 to 9/10
This s2 is mad, their cross breed marriages have cause plenty wahala

Noted

[quote author=DeadPresidents post=125519894]

Investment in South Korea was done to create a bulwark against rising unfriendly communist powers in the East such as China, North Korea and Vietnam.

Same with Taiwan. Till today Taiwan has the backing of the US.

My point is, you don’t get what people ought to give you, you get what they must give you.

You seek reparations as an equal, we seek aid like beggars. To get reparations we must not appeal to their humanity but their animality.[/quote

They see Africans as sub human ( sorry to use that word) . King Leopold II of Belgium committed lot of atrocities in Congo free state. During the Berlin Conference, when they divided Africa like a piece of cake, they gave Congo to King Leopold II. Some people said he bought it and the guy ran it like a private enterprise.

Years later, another king in Philippe offered an apology. As if na apology Congo go chop . The king didn't even offer full apology.

Up till now, there's still imperialism, neocolonialism, Francafrique going on in Africa.

In all these our leaders here are very very corrupt. At the same time, our politics is very monetise. If you don't have money, you can't play politics in the biggest stage in Nigeria. The last time, APC presidential nomination form was 100 million. Even at that, delegates still collect money to vote for the highest bidder. Osinbajo doesn't have the kind of money Tinubu has.

I have loved your balanced view so far. Yes, the West is advanced in technology and all. They are very brilliant and hardworking but they are also doing packaging and branding.

You said German efficiency is a hoax . You also said they do vandalise public properties.

Obama once said Child marriage is a threat to fundamental human rights. Till today, there are still child marriages in America, some states no even get age limit. 10 , 11 years old girl are still getting married in America.

raumdeuter:


Now that you have explained how America took care of West Germany, Can we also explain to them how the East aka Russia took care of East Germany or North Korea post the Korean war

So we can know who is evil

Lol. The West are not good people doing things from the goodness of their heart and neither is the East. The West understand that it’s better to have trade ties than merely militaristic superiority. The East have traditionally sought to do things by force culminating in disastrous regimes like Pol Pot’s, Stalin etc

My point remains, figure out how to compel symbiosis not just merely demanding the West act like honorable people because they are not.

Everybody is out for what they can get. Let me leave a quote from Bucktown (1975)

You think anybody here in this town is any different? They don't give a damn who gets killed. Just as long as the dice keep rolling, the hoes keep hoeing, and the money keeps flowing!

izzou:
Everybody just put hand for pocket.

Make the story no go change tomorrow

😂😂

"LESSONS OF ISESE: STATEMENT BY WOLE SOYINKA

THUS COUNSELS ISESE

ISESE has come, but not gone. We salute all those – human rights activists, community leaders, affronted citizens, advocates of equity and all - but the state governors most especially - who have taken history to task and boldly formalized a level praying ground for the exploration of the infinite, the realm of intuitions which exists across pedigree, borders, class, politics, social mechanisms and cultures. The battle is not over. There are those who feel compelled to indulge their obsessions through the cooption of public symbols and educational institutions. We must never weary of instructing them, of offering them gleanings from the threshing floor of millenia old and new transformative ideas, rescue them from centuries of false historicism, baseless fears, and will to dominate and/or flaunt an inglorious past of enslavement.

This notation of “ISESE” on the calendar of faiths in any nation is a vital stage in the human incessant yearning for even a semblance of SPIRITUAL TRUTH. It enacts an impartial order, inserts a critical building block in the architecture of universal enlightenment. Hopefully such formal recognition will be read as the commencement of an era of spiritual accommodation, a lesson in humility, not a trigger for sterile contestation and renewed demonization of others among overlapping theocratic realms. The Prototype of such realms, in any case, remain forever closed to any absolute, incontestable mortal certitude. Dogma, says ISESE, however lavishly endowed, or brutally sustained, can never substitute for the Unknowable.

​ISESE has always been with humanity, and will remain for all eternity. The celebration of ISESE is not defined by an annual observance only, but as a presiding awareness, a daily companion that offers its essence for humanity’s harmonized co-existence. It transcends religion, since it calls to what is innate to all sentient beings, those strange advocates of Freedom who, paradoxically, nonetheless persist in fashioning chains for themselves and for their fellow beings. ISESE liberates. It is an expression of the collective human spirit, its enveloping, compassionate accommodation of human experience, yet one that strives towards the seemingly inaccessible, intuitively felt as an elevating dimension of one’s material estate. ISESE is a Path, not a destination, a seizure yet a pursuit of what we experience as the inner quest for ultimate illumination. ISESE does not conclude. neither does it exclude. It does not diminish, rather, it enlarges. It teaches community to embrace, explore, and adjust. It defends the right to believe or not believe, acknowledges the limitless variety of phenomena, both what is provable and non-provable. ISESE promotes, as foundational consciousness, gratitude for, and sanctity of human life. It repudiates the supremacist claim of any structure of spirituality over another. Content with the pursuit of inner serenity, which is the climax of, and extraction from celebration, ISESE does not seek to exercise power. All true religions know that celebration is prelude to community equilibrium.

​Preoccupied with the larger, imponderable questions of existence, ISESE does not thereby neglect the particularized. Thus, it concerns itself with the fate of every unit that makes up community, and is innately bound to engage in questions such as: “What is a youth, by name MUBARAK BALA doing in prison? Recall, ISESE upholds the right to believe or not believe, thus the question is not trite, it is not academic, but is instantly catapulted from the particularized to the universal podium of Justice. How does a nation define itself, when a youth can be sentenced to waste his years of mental prowess in prison, for no crime beyond the right to believe or not believe? ISESE speaks to individual and collective conscience. ISESE calls on those misguided forgers of human chains to respond to a plain question: why is that youth, and undoubtedly numerous others, wasting away in hidden dungeons, for crimes that the very protocols of nation definition, known as the Constitution do not recognize. ISESE asks, WHEN is Justice? And what is that ensign worth, if it fails to fulfill the primary condition of social accreditation which is – Justice!

​Justice, for which another name is Equity, walks hand in hand with Tolerance. Tolerance is simply according others the right that we exercise on our own behalf. Do we need to seek far and wide to embrace the position of ISESE on the elementary virtue of Tolerance? Not in the least. In any neighbouring household to nearly every other dwelling in this nation we shall encounter those whose Scriptures extol this very virtue. Listen to the following from the very words of the Prophet, Mohammed.
The first, from Chapter 2 Verse 256, commands:
“Let there be no compulsion In religion: “
Permit me to repeat that, to drum it into the calcified eardrums of the incorrigible:
​“Let there be no compulsion in religion”
Thus declared the Prophet Mohammed in his own person. Even further, from Chapter 10 Verses 99--100:

“If it had been the Lord's Will, they would all have believed---All who are on earth - Wilt thou compel mankind, against their will, to believe?”
That latter part once more, an unambiguous exhortation, even though couched rhetorically:
​“Wilt thou compel mankind, against their will, to believe?”

Now, place those pronouncements side by side wih odu IKADI from the Scriptures of Ifa, the Muse of Divination as handed down through the priests of Orunmila:

B’omode ba nsawo ogboju, bi o ba ko ogbo awo lona, kio o gba a l’oju. Bi o ba ko agba isegun, ki o je e n’iya lopolopo. Bi o ba burinburin ti o ri agba alufa nibiti o nfi ori k’ale, ki o d’oju re de ‘be. A da a f’awon alaigboran tii wipe: Ko si eniti o le mu won. Ee ti ri? Eyin ko mo pe: Ajepe aiye ko si f’omo ti o na Ogbo awo. Atelepe ko wa fun awon ti nna agba isegun. Omo ti nna agba alufa nibi ti o gbe nkirun, iku ara re lo nwa. Warawara ma ni iku idin, warawara.

Translation:
“The brash youth encounters an ancient diviner and strikes him. He meets an old herbalist and humiliates him. He runs into a venerable moslem priest kneeling in prayer and pushes his face into the ground. Ifa divined for such inssolent ones who boasted that they were beyond correction. Is that so indeed? Don’t you know that a youth who strikes a priest of Ifa will not partake of this world for long? Premature is the death of the youth who strikes the devout imam at his devotions. Twitches and spasms mark the death of maggots. Squirming and twitching.”

This divine odu is prescribed despite the fact that, just like its elder sibling faith, christianity, islam invaded the black world, subverted its traditions, its worldview and spiritual certitudes, often violently and contemptuously. Each aggressor rivaled the other violence for violence, contempt for contempt, enslavement for enslavement. Both of them ruthless iconoclasts, yet, what wisdom does this constantly defamed religion – glibly maligned as idol worship - prescribe for its own adherents? Tolerance! Tolerance, it enjoins, tolerance! You humiliate the Moslem, christian or indeed any religious cleric, warns Ifa, your fate is as the loathsome death of maggots.

ISESE insists that godhead is not so inadequate that it requires the inflicted suffering of humans, their abuse, torture, and degradation, their recurrent tribute of tithes and offerings in blood transfusion in order to make the essence of godhead manifest, neither does it decree, as a condition for admission into its manifold, the absolute, uncritical veneration of avatars and prophets on its way to ultimate enlightenment. ISESE declares that any such pronouncement or proceeding serves only to inseminate terror, not piety, and thus, remains an abomination in the very sight of godhead. ISESE preaches mutual respect, but insists on the primal sanctity of human life. ISESE turns its face against murder, such as the brutal ending of the girl student Deborah Samuel. ISESE demands justice for that martyred girl, for her family, for her community and – indisputably, the nation itself. ISESE must not rest until all the perpetrators of that hideous crime are brought to justice, including those purveyors of sectional HATE and DISCORD who applauded the deed, including those who have obstructed the cause of justice. ALL are guilty of instigating others to emulation. Any society that thinks or acts otherwise, even by omission, has chosen the path of disintegration.

ISESE enjoins patience with those who, even while they fill themselves with pride of learning, fail to distinguish between the worship of idols on the one hand – such as some ancient practices that their own religions supplanted - and the symbolic evocation of godhead through images, music, performance and material designations, including life sustaining facets of Nature, be these rivers, mountains, earth and seasons. Most times, such ignorance is feigned. It is deliberately propagated in order to justify their claims to superiority thus promoting an agenda of subjugation, enslavement, and other forms of dehumanization, including racist theologies. This distortion then sanitizes a yet ongoing retrogressive history of the division of the world into The Chosen and – The Disposable. We must remain aware of this colossal, costly deficiency, remain hopeful however of the eventual transformation of such active vectors of historic errors, remain even tolerant of their persistent, negative sermonizing. However, we must present a stern face in defence of our own community of faiths, centred on humanistic values. ISESE preaches that humanity is absolute, not relative, that humanity is one, or not at all.

ISESE urges further that we even extend a hand in generous fellowship to those who choose to emulate the ways of their marauding ancestors, who sing praises of their spiritual and cultural enslavers.

Through example, we may bring them gently into the manifold of this family of faiths that boast of never having launched a war or laid humanity to waste in order to enthrone a monopoly of faith. ISESE is not, has never been at war with any other commonwealth of beliefs – it is content to leave its doors open to the curious, the intrigued, and even the hostile. ISESE does not dictate, it does not maim or kill. We can only commiserate with those who confuse true religions with sinister cults that have sprung, ironically, from schisms within their own doctrinal certitudes. Cults, let us continue to instruct, are the malignant outgrowths of spiritual malformations. Symbols, such as religious statues are deployed to focus the mind on the ineffable. The genuine Path seekers must remain unwavering, and patiently await their detractors’ day of illumination. The Paths that lead to wisdom will survive them all, and continue to beckon to others as seekers after Truth, dedicated to the creation of the elevated community of man, woman and child.
These constitute mere glimpses, albeit basic, into the heart of ISESE, and its abiding articles of faith. Because its precepts are humanistic and universal, ISESE can never be diminished. It is here for all eternity." — Nobel laureate Wole SOYINKA

In my lifetime, Yoruba, a key element of Isese, will become a global language considered as equals with other global languages such as English, German, French, Arabic, Mandarin, and others.

A001:
In my lifetime, Yoruba, a key element of Isese, will become a global language considered as equals with other global languages such as English, German, French, Arabic, Mandarin, and others.

Omo eeh, how una for this pússified west dey rugged am via marriage like this



https://www.nairaland.com/7825615/nigerian-man-asked-leave-uk

seankafor:
Omo eeh, how una for this pússified west dey rugged am via marriage like this



https://www.nairaland.com/7825615/nigerian-man-asked-leave-uk

Na the man fuckup allow her bring am as the dependent. When you’re the dependent, you need to understand your role.

DeadPresidents:


Na the man fuckup allow her bring am as the dependent. When you’re the dependent, you need to understand your role.

On top him legally married wife?.. What role exactly is that?.. That's pure wickedness from the woman.. Because he's a dependent, he should comfortably watch as his fellow man dey tear him wife pussy steadily..

DeadPresidents:


Na the man fuckup allow her bring am as the dependent. When you’re the dependent, you need to understand your role.

Most men go as dependants. It's believed men have the strength, hunger and can work long hours.

Also, if you go as the student and your wife gets pregnant, gives birth or just refuses to work long hours, surviving becomes very difficult.

CrystalTiger:


On top him legally married wife?.. What role exactly is that?.. That's pure wickedness from the woman.. Because he's a dependent, he should comfortably watch as his fellow man dey tear him wife pussy steadily..

He should never have agreed to that arrangement in the first place. That’s my point. It’s too late now.

You fuckup, you collect. Women are ruthless when it comes to exploiting vulnerabilities. They are like blackhat hackers.

Itsrm:


Most men go as dependants. It's believed men have the strength, hunger and can work longer hours.

Also, if you go as the student and your wife gets pregnant, gives birth or just refuses to work long hours, surviving becomes very difficult.

I think risking deportation on the whims and caprices of another person is risky as eff.

Personally, i think a better approach is the man japa first, find his foot and brings the wife later. There is a lot of orientation that needs to be done whenever you land in a foreign domicile for the first time.

Won’t even advice you to relocate with your partner without having additional finance to cushion sudden shocks (like loss of livelihood etc)

DeadPresidents:


I think risking deportation on the whims and caprices of another person is risky as eff.

Personally, i think a better approach is the man japa first, find his foot and brings the wife later. There is a lot of orientation that needs to be done whenever you land in a foreign domicile for the first time.

Won’t even advice you to relocate with your partner without having additional finance to cushion sudden shocks (like loss of livelihood etc)

Considering that most people japa using the student route, having the man go first is going to be really difficult.

First, most people don't have enough money to pay their entire school fees before they leave. On one hand you're struggling to pay rent, live and survive, on the other hand, you also have to pay your school fees. All these bills and you're limited to working only 20 hours a week.

That's why people go with dependants and even go as far as conducting sham marriages. The idea is that while the main applicant is limited to 20 hours, the other can work for as long as possible

Another danger with making your wife the dependant is that if she works and refuses to hand over the money for family upkeep and to support you, you're on your own.

It's not like men don't know the risks involved with going as the dependant. The alternatives are not just considerably better.

Now for those who are lucky to get jobs with sponsorship from Nigeria, then easier to go first to settle down before bringing the family.

Itsrm:


Considering that most people japa using the student route, having the man go first is going to be really difficult.

First, most people don't have enough money to pay their entire school fees before they leave. On one hand you're struggling to pay rent, live and survive, on the other hand, you also have to pay your school fees. All these bills and you're limited to working only 20 hours a week.

That's why people go with dependants and even go as far as conducting sham marriages. The idea is that while the main applicant is limited to 20 hours, the other can work for as long as possible

Another danger with making your wife the dependant is that if she works and refuses to hand over the money for family upkeep and to support you, you're on your own.

It's not like men don't know the risks involved with going as the dependant. The alternatives are not just considerably better.

Now for those who are lucky to get jobs with sponsorship from Nigeria, then easier to go first to settle down before bringing the family.

Omo, the risks are plentiful. At the end of the day, it’s just picking your poison and hoping the woman is who she says she is.

I consider that man to be lucky. He finally found her true nature (which would have shown up at some point in time). I really hope they don’t have kids because children deserve a stable home.

Finding out the hard way is painful but all for the best. Even if they never had cause to japa, she would have figured out a way to cheat in Naija anyways

To add some balance to the perspective, we only hear the worst stories of marriage on the Internet. There are many Naija couples that did japa together and they are still happily married many years after.

I think it’s a better idea to figure out if marriage is what you want or if it is not your cup of tea. Not all women are bad just as not all men are good.

DeadPresidents:


Omo, the risks are plentiful. At the end of the day, it’s just picking your poison and hoping the woman is who she says she is.

I consider that man to be lucky. He finally found her true nature (which would have shown up at some point in time). I really hope they don’t have kids because children deserve a stable home.

Finding out the hard way is painful but all for the best. Even if they never had cause to japa, she would have figured out a way to cheat in Naija anyways

Na so. You just have to pick your poison.

I hope and pray he gets a job with sponsorship before the deadline they gave him. Now that the story is going viral, his chances should be higher.

Kudos to Spain as a country.. from now henceforth.. I stan Spain, Spanish fa, Spanish la Liga and everyone from Spain for not always bowing to woke,femisistic and narcastic pressure

Central Africa is gone

https://twitter.com/GNzowo/status/1697672038985634041?t=z_Tf4AKrs_O9MBsatlSMCQ&s=19

seankafor:
Kudos to Spain as a country.. from now henceforth.. I stan Spain, Spanish fa, Spanish la Liga and everyone from Spain for not always bowing to woke,femisistic and narcastic pressure

Lmao it just had to be Spain.

seankafor:
Kudos to Spain as a country.. from now henceforth.. I stan Spain, Spanish fa, Spanish la Liga and everyone from Spain for not always bowing to woke,femisistic and narcastic pressure

Would you have Stanned them like this if Greenwood's girlfriend were your sister?

raumdeuter:


Ivory Coast was going into a war because a president lost election and refused to leave

Ivory coast going to war does not protect Frances interest and they stepped in. Same way if Nigeria is going to a war, US and many western countries with business interests will step in and protect their own interest in form of business and citizens

Just to remind you again

You havent told me if it makes sense for the countries we are importing wheat from to insist that Dangote and Eagle flour in Nigeria close their factory and only open factories in the country they are sourcing wheat from

So you justified France stepping in to dispose a sitting president of a sovereign nation because of 'their interest'?

It is exactly this justification that I am against. It is because of this justification that Africa is unable to develop. It is because of this justification that African leaders are facing coup today. Those leaders want to protect French interest even to the detriment of their own people.

By the way, Ivory Coast was not into war. If there could be any intervention it could have come from regional or international organizations like AU or UN and not France or any other country for that matter.

As for your last paragraph, I know that it is your usual way of deflection way you notice the argument has lost you. I won't engage. It's a distraction.

The BBC reports below already butresses my point and I encourage readers to check them out.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-66668094

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-66406137

PS- Why can't I upload screenshots?

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Good 2 know that our amiable prof identifies with indigenous African Religion..Islam & Xtianity are all colonial religion that does not promote productivity & competition. It is in nigeria the poverty capital of the world that plays host to top 5/4 richest pastors in the world

I thought you said you were an atheist?

Uche gi opuola?

seankafor:
Kudos to Spain as a country.. from now henceforth.. I stan Spain, Spanish fa, Spanish la Liga and everyone from Spain for not always bowing to woke,femisistic and narcastic pressure

Rubialles' mother is looking at you.

Spy360:

I thought you said you were an atheist?

Uche gi opuola?

liveLongNprospa:
Central Africa is gone

https://twitter.com/GNzowo/status/1697672038985634041?t=z_Tf4AKrs_O9MBsatlSMCQ&s=19

Damn! This is what you call a massacre!
Geez. Africa is cursed. How on earth do you boldly slaughter your own subjects in broad daylight.

You see why I say military is definitely no better than the current leadership. Whatever you think is bad in African democracy is far worse in military hands. Damn.

Spy360:

I thought you said you were an atheist?

Uche gi opuola?

Indeed, him and geenstay are confused. They say they are atheist but then revert to traditional religions as a substitute to the Abrahamic religions.

hopefulLandlord:
Would you have Stanned them like this if Greenwood's girlfriend were your sister?

lol.. but they re now married and have kid together

And that's after the supposedly fight oo

Freethinkers around the world promote various aspects of their native cultures and traditions. For instance, Wole Soyinka has been promoting key elements of Isese over the years, and there are many of such videos online as proof.

However, most freethinkers don't promote aspects about sacrifice, worshipping a deity, and the likes in their cultures.

As a Yoruba man, there are many aspects of Isese, my culture, that I can promote, and I have promoted some of them on this platform and others over the years.

Isese is very broad. Intelligent people select the good aspects in it and support them while condemning the bad aspects.

What we call Isese in Yoruba has its equivalent meaning in Igbo language and many other languages around the world.

Isese simply means "culture and traditions".

There are Igbo freethinkers too that promote certain aspects of their culture and traditions.

Importantly, freethinkers in this part of the world can make key contribution to their native culture by introducing philosophy, science, and critical thinking into it.

However, it's crucial to tread with caution.