Spy360:

Nwanne, if you want to promote your culture just know that you cannot be an atheist because atheism is not your culture. Your culture does not believe in a divine void. Just as white atheist don't believe in their culture of Christianity.

By the way, Isese is not your culture as an Igbo man.

Be careful not to argue this because I have another banger for you.

Spy360:

Nwanne, if you want to promote your culture just know that you cannot be an atheist because atheism is not your culture. Your culture does not believe in a divine void. Just as white atheist don't believe in their culture of Christianity.

By the way, Isese is not your culture as an Igbo man.

Be careful not to argue this because I have another banger for you.

DeadPresidents:


Lol. The West are not good people doing things from the goodness of their heart and neither is the East. The West understand that it’s better to have trade ties than merely militaristic superiority. The East have traditionally sought to do things by force culminating in disastrous regimes like Pol Pot’s, Stalin etc

My point remains, figure out how to compel symbiosis not just merely demanding the West act like honorable people because they are not.

Everybody is out for what they can get. Let me leave a quote from Bucktown (1975)

You think anybody here in this town is any different? They don't give a damn who gets killed. Just as long as the dice keep rolling, the hoes keep hoeing, and the money keeps flowing!

Melvyn11:

This nigga is still calling the woman his wife lol. The woman Is already gone, the marriage has already ended. The man should have been thinking about himself and how to avoid deportation to start over again and that's where applying wisdom in that situation comes into play. Get a fallback plan in place before confronting her so when she pull nonsense like divorce it won't affect you.

raumdeuter:


Na she even dey do the touching. If na the guys touch her shoulder like that na Gani Fawehinmi and Gloria Allred for resolve the issue

seankafor:
Omo eeh, how una for this pússified west dey rugged am via marriage like this



https://www.nairaland.com/7825615/nigerian-man-asked-leave-uk

Trevor012:

He is simply telling you even as an atheist he appreciates African culture and wants to see them promoted. There's atheism in every culture.

A001:

Did atheism originate from the English culture? We call our native culture and traditions "Isese" or "Asa ati Ise" in Yoruba language.

Igbo people also have their own equivalent of Isese, which you call Igbo culture. There's a term for it in Igbo language.

Every people around the world has their own equivalent of Isese in their own area. In Arabia, Islam is an element of their own Isese or native cultures and traditions.

Christianity is an aspect of the Isese or the native culture and traditions of Israelites.

These are basic facts a typical African should know.

A001:
People that don't know their left from right think atheism is traditional to the English culture. So many ignorant people on Nairaland.

I don't know where people get these false ideas from. When talking about classical philosophy, the English people aren't even among the founding figures.

Spy360:

The bolded is not acceptable by me. African culture does not permit a void in the divine. Let's not bring up fake ideas just to push our narratives. I want to learn, you will have to prove that.

Appreciating a culture and defending it are two different issues. Religion is an aspect of African culture, and so defending it means acceptance. How can you promote what you don't believe in? Makes no sense.

I also appreciate African culture and I am not atheist. I appreciate but won't promote it or even defend it.

Spy360:

The bolded is not acceptable by me. African culture does not permit a void in the divine. Let's not bring up fake ideas just to push our narratives. I want to learn, you will have to prove that.

Appreciating a culture and defending it are two different issues. Religion is an aspect of African culture, and so defending it means acceptance. How can you promote what you don't believe in? Makes no sense.

I also appreciate African culture and I am not atheist. I appreciate but won't promote it or even defend it.

DeadPresidents:


Na the man fuckup allow her bring am as the dependent. When you’re the dependent, you need to understand your role.

Spy360:

Tell us where atheism started.

In Igbo, culture is called Omenala.

raumdeuter:
The assets of a Major General at a time they are not in power.

And some believe military rule is an option to a corrupt civilian rule. This is a Major General most people here never heard of

Also anyone of middle age should write their will

He is seeing people in power chopping with reckless abandon. Wetin you expect?

Make him wey dey frontline to die close mouth?

4 houses inside one estate. Lol. And this is a Major General we don't even know.

Then imagine what CDS, and past COAS don chop.

That is why i believe a coup can easily happen in Nigeria. All our security heads have a price, and sadly, it is all money and materialism

raumdeuter:


That's the fact. Nobody likes anybody for this world

I remember during black live matter ish. Nihilistjnr said something you don't beg people to like you. He used the Jews as examples where many people historically dont like them but now they are forced to respect them.

In this world aside your family no one has the obligation to like you. No one genuinely likes you the best you can hope for is that you are working toward a common interest.

So build yourself up to a point where they have to need you or realize that not working with you has some dangers

While you are crying Mr A Mr B does not like me, ask yourself do you genuinely like them? So why is this burden of like on them

izzou:
Deported home to hell fire or Nigeria?

The same Nigeria that he raised funds to go abroad is what will kill him if he comes back?

So, if it was you, you would let your wife fck another man over and over again, just so you won't be deported?

I reject this kind of wisdom in my life

But if you feel it is okay, no p

izzou:


He is seeing people in power chopping with reckless abandon. Wetin you expect?

Make him wey dey frontline to die close mouth?

4 houses inside one estate. Lol. And this is a Major General we don't even know.

Then imagine what CDS, and past COAS don chop.

That is why i believe a coup can easily happen in Nigeria. All our security heads have a price, and sadly, it is all money and materialism

Eunoiaa:


For him to raise funds to leave Nigeria in the first place is telling enough that he didn't want to remain here. Relocating abroad was probably a means to a better life for him, and why should he let a partner's infidelity get in the way of that?

He cannot cheat back, he cannot lock up and break up with her in his heart? Practically live as a stranger with her?

From the story, he obviously still can continue to remain there IF he has a sponsor, so what stopped him from secretly working on that and then confront her when he's got that sorted out? Switch from being a dependent visa holder to a skilled worker visa or something?

I am saying this bearing in mind the fact that "japa" was a preferred choice for HIM and we didn't know his condition while he was here. Of course, Nigeria is not going to kill him.

But how do you know you're in that vulnerable, tentative state and yet he probably went to confront her harshly, fuelled by his ego?

I am not justifying his position or what the wide did; and I can't imagine how devastating finding out about that would have been to him, but it is what it is.

It wasn't commonsensical for him to place his emotions over logic in that case. It will only be a erroneous sense of ownership that'll make you describe the bolded the way you did.

You don't have control over what anyone chooses to do with their genitals. Another man is not "fuçking" your wife, your wife is choosing to fuçk outside and the most you can do is not to respect her again. Confronting her wouldn't make her stop or change or respect you. Now he's literally looking for a sponsor helter-skelter, when he could have been doing the same thing calmly and with time on his side. Like he doesn't even have kiss up to her ass or become a stupid, fool for her.

So you go gather millions travel, and go through stress of settling down and shit, only for you to end up losing it all because of one unfaithful partner? Don't look at it from the angle of YOU not valuing relocation. It's about his life and goals here. That's the tact and wisdom.

See you talking deportation is not a big deal. What if he never make it again, and this is his only shot? So watin he gain? Just because he wan prove head and say e get value?

Trevor012:

Alaye they have always been atheist in Africa. Facts don't care if you accept or not.

raumdeuter:


That's the fact. Nobody likes anybody for this world

I remember during black live matter ish. Nihilistjnr said something you don't beg people to like you. He used the Jews as examples where many people historically dont like them but now they are forced to respect them.

In this world aside your family no one has the obligation to like you. No one genuinely likes you the best you can hope for is that you are working toward a common interest.

So build yourself up to a point where they have to need you or realize that not working with you has some dangers

While you are crying Mr A Mr B does not like me, ask yourself do you genuinely like them? So why is this burden of like on them

izzou:


He is seeing people in power chopping with reckless abandon. Wetin you expect?

Make him wey dey frontline to die close mouth?

4 houses inside one estate. Lol. And this is a Major General we don't even know.

Then imagine what CDS, and past COAS don chop.

That is why i believe a coup can easily happen in Nigeria. All our security heads have a price, and sadly, it is all money and materialism

KingTom:

It is also the reason why it can't happen easily, supposing I'm the blundering Tinupoo Balablu and you're one of my Generals, as far as I keep you happy then I maintain the status quo, officers are treated to a lot benefits, some of which are not even part of their defense budget. It's a scratch my back, I scratch yours situation, I don't want to sound like a conspiracy theorists but do you know how many dreamed of a coup during Buhari's regime and how they were rapidly 'snitched' on by their colleagues... Like my grandfather Nwokedi used to say, 'A bird in hand is the only bird you have, nothing dey bush'

izzou:


A man who loves money will always love more money.

Do you think the Military in Gabon were not having their backs scratched by Bongo?

Even company wey dey pay well, staff go still dey find loopholes to thief.

Nigeria is fantastically corrupt. Flash millions of dollars in any CDS eye, and see if he wouldn't think twice

Eunoiaa:


For him to raise funds to leave Nigeria in the first place is telling enough that he didn't want to remain here. Relocating abroad was probably a means to a better life for him, and why should he let a partner's infidelity get in the way of that?

He cannot cheat back, he cannot lock up and break up with her in his heart? Practically live as a stranger with her?

From the story, he obviously still can continue to remain there IF he has a sponsor, so what stopped him from secretly working on that and then confront her when he's got that sorted out? Switch from being a dependent visa holder to a skilled worker visa or something?

I am saying this bearing in mind the fact that "japa" was a preferred choice for HIM and we didn't know his condition while he was here. Of course, Nigeria is not going to kill him.

But how do you know you're in that vulnerable, tentative state and yet he probably went to confront her harshly, fuelled by his ego?

I am not justifying his position or what the wife did; and I can't imagine how devastating finding out about that would have been to him, but it is what it is.

It wasn't commonsensical for him to place his emotions over logic in that case. It will only be a erroneous sense of ownership that'll make you describe the bolded the way you did.

You don't have control over what anyone chooses to do with their genitals. Another man is not "fuçking" your wife, your wife is choosing to fuçk outside and the most you can do is not to respect her again. Confronting her wouldn't make her stop or change or respect you. Now he's literally looking for a sponsor helter-skelter, when he could have been doing the same thing calmly and with time on his side. Like he doesn't even have kiss up to her ass or become a stupid, fool for her.

So you go gather millions travel, and go through stress of settling down and shit, only for you to end up losing it all because of one unfaithful partner? Don't look at it from the angle of YOU not valuing relocation. It's about his life and goals here. That's the tact and wisdom.

See you talking like deportation is not a big deal. What if he never make it again, and this is his only shot? So watin he gain? Just because he wan prove headship and say e get value? I mean, he literally can do that WITHOUT it resulting in his deportation, no? I mean, he could have gotten a divorce from the woman without it as well. How did he confront her that she not only filed for divorce, but wanted him deported? She's wicked for that, but he should have bid his time and not go prodding the devil with a hot rod in the eye when he's dangling over a "lake of fire."

Spy360:

Nwanne, if you want to promote your culture just know that you cannot be an atheist because atheism is not your culture. Your culture does not believe in a divine void. Just as white atheist don't believe in their culture of Christianity.

By the way, Isese is not your culture as an Igbo man.

Be careful not to argue this because I have another banger for you.

A001:

So dull. If you say atheism isn't present in the African culture, that means theism isn't there as well.

The moment a person says he believes in a god or deity (theism) and another person doesn't accept or entertain that belief (atheism), atheism has started.

We don't call such people atheists in Africa as English isn't part of African languages.

In Yoruba, they're described as 'poki' or 'enitionilorun'. Historically, atheism isn't even also traditional to the English culture. The first atheists originated from ancient Egypt, ancient Greece, and Old Rome.

Ancient Egypt is the origin of civilization, and many philosophical ideas of the West had its roots from there.

In any society, the most intelligent people are the freethinkers — the agnostics, atheists, and humanists, and if you can't find a word for any of those in your culture, it shows they're very rare in your culture because many of them have been historically killed in Africa.

It means that culture hasn't had deep intellectual evolution in its history.

You'll find most world's top scientists are either agnostics or atheists.

Trevor012:

He is simply telling you even as an atheist he appreciates African culture and wants to see them promoted. There's atheism in every culture.