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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by SuccessfulRichi: 2:06am On Dec 11, 2023
I'm not from Igbo. But I know one day. Igbo will fight back. Might be too late by then.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by tsdarkside(m): 2:23am On Dec 11, 2023
SuccessfulRichi:
I'm not from Igbo. But I know one day. Igbo will fight back. Might be too late by then.

fight back what....??

nobody is at war with igbos....

but that will quickly change when you go all over the place pissin people off....

you have your region,stay their and develope it....!!
onne port is their....
your streets is up to your governors to take the allocations and build it....
if you cant force your governors to do this things,then their is nothing fg can do....

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by rdokoye: 2:33am On Dec 11, 2023
tsdarkside:
funny part is nobody is stoppin them to do it in their region themselves....

they want the federal goverment to do it for them....
this is the main issue....

than to come toghether and build this things themselves,they are busy supportin ipob and waitin for biafra....

who do they realy want to blame....??

btw....
its funny that a region that is landlocked is talkin about seaports....

port harcourt is their,but they say its not functionin what is another lie....
they themselves still use lagos ports than port harcourt port....

igbo people matter tire us no be small....

All the things he mentioned are still on the exclusion list.
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by rdokoye: 2:43am On Dec 11, 2023
tsdarkside:


fight back what....??

nobody is at war with igbos....

but that will quickly change when you go all over the place pissin people off....

you have your region,stay their and develope it....!!
onne port is their....
your streets is up to your governors to take the allocations and build it....
if you cant force your governors to do this things,then their is nothing fg can do....

The issue here is disenfranchisement. It's not about you, your opinion doesn't matter. It's about the alienation that Igbo people feel in Nigeria, whether real or imagined. You solve that, by doing the things he talked about. Making everyone feel as though they are a part of the country.

The mere fact that his words agitate you, just gives more credence to them. You should be an advocate of such things as a "Nigerian".

Just like in the 90s, when Yoruba people felt alienated, what did everyone do? They came together and propped up Obasanjo, and Igbo people voted for him in mass. For the sake of making Yoruba feel like they were a part of the country.

Now it's time for reciprocation, and what do you do? You turn around and say, "it's imagined, go solve it yourself, we're not doing anything to you".

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by tsdarkside(m): 3:15am On Dec 11, 2023
rdokoye:


The issue here is disenfranchisement. It's not about you, your opinion doesn't matter. It's about the alienation that Igbo people feel in Nigeria, whether real or imagined. You solve that, by doing the things he talked about. Making everyone feel as though they are a part of the country.

The mere fact that his words agitate you, just gives more credence to them. You should be an advocate of such things as a "Nigerian".

Just like in the 90s, when Yoruba people felt alienated, what did everyone do? They came together and propped up Obasanjo, and Igbo people voted for him in mass. For the sake of making Yoruba feel like they were a part of the country.

Now it's time for reciprocation, and what do you do? You turn around and say, "it's imagined, go solve it yourself, we're not doing anything to you".

yeah,because a white person say something we must do it....
we nigerians have passed that level....

we dont take whites serious....

now back to the topic....
you igbos say we dont care about una....

my question is why is it only you igbos always complainin....??

are you the only tribe in nigeria....??

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by tsdarkside(m): 3:17am On Dec 11, 2023
what about the northerners....??
what about the yorubas....??

what about many other tribes....??
should only igbos be givin priority....??

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by tsdarkside(m): 3:20am On Dec 11, 2023
rdokoye:


All the things he mentioned are still on the exclusion list.

we are not going to panic because a white person says something....

coming from a race of people that enslaved and colonized our kind....

when you igbos are ready you will solve your issues yourselves without the help of whites....

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by tsdarkside(m): 3:22am On Dec 11, 2023
i object allowin any white to tell me anything....!! angry angry
as a member of the black race,i object to listen to this nonesense....!! angry angry

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Promax4321: 3:43am On Dec 11, 2023
This type of analysis is to encourage destruction and ethnicities fighting. Which region has better infrastructure that is maintained by the centre of not by itself.

If this violence is encouraged, it won't subsidized in the nearest future but increase as there will be other reasons to support violent.

These oyibos has shortsights and no political understanding of Nigeria and Nigerian.

Nigerian should support and positively criticized the system

Every region should look inward and positively grow themselves

People that propagate evil for others should be decouraged and sanctioned

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by OGHENAOGIE(m): 3:46am On Dec 11, 2023
Supremos:
I agree with the non kinetic approach being proposed by Vice president Shettima, that's if it's not all 'kwus and no mes'.


Release Nnamdi Kanu, dialogue with him and other stakeholders in the region.

The process of reintegration can start.

Their should be short term and long term concerted effort towards reconnecting the region with the government.
dialogue with them like they don't have gorvenors or what and elected legislators... That oyibo clown no get sense at all.. release nnamdi Kanu after his atrocious activities at Ipob and radio biafra

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by tsdarkside(m): 3:51am On Dec 11, 2023
Promax4321:
This type of analysis is to encourage destruction and ethnicities fighting. Which region has better infrastructure that is maintained by the centre of not by itself.

If this violence is encouraged, it won't subsidized in the nearest future but increase as there will be other reasons to support violent.

These oyibos has shortsights and no political understanding of Nigeria and Nigerian.

Nigerian should support and positively criticized the system

Every region should look inward and positively grow themselves

People that propagate evil for others should be decouraged and sanctioned


na today...!!??
we have to start seeing through the tricks of this whites....!!

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by OGHENAOGIE(m): 3:53am On Dec 11, 2023
Eriokanmi:
I agree with you. Part of our IGR in Lagos can always be credited to these people's huge contribution to the economic growth of the state. I am not a trialist and I will never be one. Create a sea port in the SE and give them good roads. All the agitations and feelings of disconnect will stop. The FG will only earn much more revenues via Sea Port, should this be considered,

Even if the FG is not capable of building a sea port there, they can do a Public Private partnership thing. It is quite possible. The Lagos Deep Sea port is not owned by one entity alone, it is a partnership thing. Like I once said on this forum, the federal government knows what to do to guarantee peace and oneness but deliberately, they do not want to do it. I said this when the IG asked the Igbos to stop making people orphans and widows by killing the police in the SE. To govern Nigeria is not difficult at all, if only we can shun bigotry and tribalism. I have studied the political atmosphere of this country well as I have mingle with nearly all the tribes in the land and sought their opinions.
kuku say na Igbos de generate all revenue for Lagos.. nonsense chest beating where is the sea in South East to do seaport... Make una deceive inaself cos one political foreigner de yarn dust

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by tsdarkside(m): 3:59am On Dec 11, 2023
china would ban him from enterin china....

why are we nigerians listenin to him to harm ourselves....??

away with evil....!!

and you igbos should start thinkin for yourselves....
you dont need whites whisperin things into your ears....

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Alaska90(m): 4:13am On Dec 11, 2023
reiddecuti:
They are afraid of the Igbo man. If seaport is established in South East, believe me you, Lagos will quench over night.

They know this already.

Please stop this rubbish....

Igbo people dont need Federal government to build port in the east

You can do it yourself

The Lekki port was built by Lagos government and Chinese private company with Federal government having just 2% share of the port

So are you telling me the 5 Igbo states cannot build a port on their own?

You need less than 2bn dollars to build a small port and the chinese bank are ready to put the money down as long a chinese construction company will be awarded the contract

Please stop disturbing everybody with this port issue. Hold your Governors accountable

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Gerrard59(m): 4:18am On Dec 11, 2023
tsdarkside:
funny part is nobody is stoppin them to do it in their region themselves....

they want the federal goverment to do it for them....
this is the main issue....

than to come toghether and build this things themselves,they are busy supportin ipob and waitin for biafra....


Why not? The United States developed the Marshall Plan, which saw the western part of Europe receiving loans, investments and aid to rebuild the continent after two World Wars. South Korea got funding from the United States to rebuild itself, ditto for Japan and Taiwan. Singapore, too, got investment from the US. Igbos are literally the ones who got defeated after a war and received no help in rebuilding. Everything was done by sheer hard work, perseverance and determination.

So, if the Japanese could receive economic assistance from the Americans who bombed them twice, why not Igbos?

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Gerrard59(m): 4:20am On Dec 11, 2023
santaclaws:
The government needs to do more for the South East, I totally agree. They also need to embark on programs that foster national unity...

The only wrong thing he said was the seaport; there is no sea or ocean in the south east to begin with, so where do they locate it in the region since it's landlocked? Except for Lagos & the Niger delta, locating a seaport anywhere else is a complete trash idea.

What the SE needs is a good rail network and dry ports to transport cargo from and to various parts of Nigeria.

I agree with you. I don't know how the south east is going to get a port when there is no majority Igbo group abut to the Atlantic Ocean.

Anyway, the Oyibo is wasting his time. Nothing is going to change unless other Nigerians are willing to change.
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Benwallt(m): 4:29am On Dec 11, 2023
Santiago come and build seaport for them if you care that much. They are not ready, they will destroy it.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by tsdarkside(m): 4:32am On Dec 11, 2023
Gerrard59:


Why not? The United States developed the Marshall Plan, which saw the western part of Europe receiving loans, investments and aid to rebuild the continent after two World Wars. South Korea got funding from the United States to rebuild itself, ditto for Japan and Taiwan. Singapore, too, got investment from the US. Igbos are literally the ones who got defeated after a war and received no help in rebuilding. Everything was done by sheer hard work, perseverance and determination.

So, if the Japanese could receive economic assistance from the Americans who bombed them twice, why not Igbos?

....you got 20 pounds....

it doesnt matter....
you are not the only tribe that needs things....

seaport....??

but you have onne near you....
you have portharcourt near you....

fg should dreadge the river till south east and you still not use it....??

you will still use lagos anyways because the market is their....
thinkin that market will automaticaly shift to the south east because of a port is very foolish....

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by santaclaws: 4:38am On Dec 11, 2023
Billionairly:


Abia state is on the IMO river which is less than 20 miles from the ocean. A proper international seaport can be sighted there.

It's an impossible mission, stop giving yourselves false hopes. A seaport cannot be sited on a river, neither would commercial/cargo ships (not boats) be able to sail or berth on the river; it's too shallow; too narrow and comes at an insane cost both financially and environmentally. Don't even think about dredging the Atlantic ocean into the river. I'll just stop there...

Perhaps very soon, the FG would have to dredge the Atlantic ocean up north so they can satisfy northerners as well, since everyone wants a seaport where there is no ocean. The feasible projects haven't been done, it's the extreme ones y'all wanna focus on. Odiegwu! 🤝🏽

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Gerrard59(m): 4:38am On Dec 11, 2023
tsdarkside:


....you got 20 pounds....

Not everyone got £20. It was for those who could provide enough evidence to prove they were worthy of it. How is that possible when war has rendered homes, documents and assets to bare ashes?

it doesnt matter....
you are not the only tribe that needs things....

Igbos are the only ones who have been disadvantaged by a major war in Nigeria. Second would be ethnic minorities in the Niger Delta as it concerns oil spillage on their lands. Third would be Northern Christians who have been butchered left, right and centre over 50 years.

seaport....??

but you have onne near you....
you have portharcourt near you....

fg should dreadge the river till south east and you still not use it....??

While Onne Port is standard for export, some persons say not all goods are allowed via it. I don't have enough information about it, so I cannot say. At the same time, I stated earlier that the south east cannot have a seaport. It is not geographically possible.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Irony1: 4:49am On Dec 11, 2023
SmartyPants:


What does that have to do with anything? With the so-called small size, those ports are still not operating at full capacity so what is the essence of expanding them??

The reality is that Nigerian exports including from the South East are negligible. This man is saying South Eastern states are number 4 and 6 on GDP top 12 list - so you mean that all the states from number 1 - 12 should get a seaport? Sometimes you really wonder what is going through people's minds.

If it is a question of having easy access to export then you have Calabar and Onne which are perfectly usable. Use them! If Calabar needs to be dredged then get the State government to dredge it and send the FG the bill as Wike did with federal roads when he was governor! But you and I know there is nothing to export. That is a general Nigerian problem!

And if you have this idea that locating a seaport in the middle of Igboland will suddenly attract investment, you still have it wrong. It has not turned Calabar into a commercial hub, has it? The reality is that imports follow the market and by virtue of size, the market is found within the Lagos - Ibadan axis.


The issue is because the population that make up the Lagos- Ibadan axis is made up of people from all over Nigeria and that was because of how skewed the development was done. It was not like that in the 60s the trad exports from the Eastern region was high.the Eastern region had a faster development indices than any other region then.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by santaclaws: 4:50am On Dec 11, 2023
Irony1:


Azumini River to the ocean is the same nautical distance as Tincan to the Ocean. So SE is not landlocked as you think.

It's not my thought that's the issue here, but the geography of the SE. Nigeria has 6 seaports: 2 in Lagos, 4 in the South-South (most of which are very close to the SE). They have a natural coastline and the seaports were sited there for those reasons.

A good rail network and dry ports are the way to go... Any other thing is just an old wife's tale.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by tsdarkside(m): 4:50am On Dec 11, 2023
Gerrard59:


Not everyone got £20. It was for those who could provide enough evidence to prove they were worthy of it. How is that possible when war has rendered homes, documents and assets to bare ashes?



Igbos are the only ones who have been disadvantaged by a major war in Nigeria. Second would be ethnic minorities in the Niger Delta as it concerns oil spillage on their lands. Third would be Northern Christians who have been butchered left, right and centre over 50 years.



While Onne Port is standard for export, some persons say not all goods are allowed via it. I don't have enough information about it, so I cannot say. At the same time, I stated earlier that the south east cannot have a seaport. It is not geographically possible.

how many igbos had 20 pounds before the war....??

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Alaska90(m): 4:54am On Dec 11, 2023
Irony1:


The issue is because the population that make up the Lagos- Ibadan axis is made up of people from all over Nigeria and that was because of how skewed the development was done. It was not like that in the 60s the trad exports from the Eastern region was high.the Eastern region had a faster development indices than any other region then.

Another fake news

I challenge you to post a proof!

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by santaclaws: 4:54am On Dec 11, 2023
Gerrard59:


I agree with you. I don't know how the south east is going to get a port when there is no majority Igbo group abut to the Atlantic Ocean.

Anyway, the Oyibo is wasting his time. Nothing is going to change unless other Nigerians are willing to change.

It's not even about the south east 'getting' a seaport or not. The fact is that they don't have the natural facility (ocean) for the infrastructure they're asking for. If the SE had a coastline and the government refused to build a seaport, that would've been another case entirely.

Some politicians have brainwashed our eastern brothers into thinking they should have a seaport while neglecting other feasible projects like good rails and dry ports.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by codemaniacs: 4:54am On Dec 11, 2023
pansophist:
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. Martin Luther King

The marginalisation, disenfrenchisement and political alienation of the igbos will always bring chaos to Nigeria. You cant have peace and progress without the full integration of everyone, it is just against natural law.

Lets see if they will blame the white man, because the igbos have been saying this for years, fought a civil war because of it, but they all turned a blind eye.


Irony1:


Oga can you just shut up and stop all these lies. Everyone here including those in political circles know that the Igbo have been marginalised for too long even you know it, but because of hate, bigotry and bias which you exhibit you will lie.

Abufo:



The same people that claim Igbos are always playing victim and are not marginalised, are still the same people who will mock igbos and tell them to go back to their poto poto and neglected republic........the wickedness inherent in he hearts of some Africans is something else!

It is impossible to marginalize an ethnic nation that has a region to itself or is the majority in a region..

Igbos are not marginalized..

the way Nigeria is structured, ethnic nations that control a state can never ever be relegated, igbos control at least 5 states, the states means indigenous government officials ( Igbo officials ) will always receive funds.

If Igbos were marginalized then that means that since 1970 they have not received any allocation from the FG and they have never held any federal government political appointments, and never been governors in their own states..

You igbos are pros at emotional blackmailing other people to manipulate them to do what you want

Like Basic123, SmartyPants tsdarkside has already commented for you guys to learn...

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Irony1: 4:56am On Dec 11, 2023
codemaniacs:






It is impossible to marginalize an ethnic nation that has a region to itself or is the majority in a region..

Igbos are not marginalized..

the way Nigeria is structured, ethnic nations that control a state can never ever be relegated, igbos control at least 5 states, the states means indigenous government officials ( Igbo officials ) will always receive funds.

If Igbos were marginalized then that means that since 1970 they have not received any allocation from the FG and they have never held any federal government political appointments, and never been governors in their own states..

You igbos are pros at emotional blackmailing other people to manipulate them to do what you want

Like Basic123, SmartyPants tsdarkside has already commented for you guys to learn...

Are you seriously saying this? Bros see it is better you say you don't know than to be talking from assumption. Even in civil service the marginalisation is there. I have experiences to talk about. Please don't upset anyone with this rubbish you are saying just shut up abeg.
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by codemaniacs: 4:56am On Dec 11, 2023
Gerrard59:


I agree with you. I don't know how the south east is going to get a port when there is no majority Igbo group abut to the Atlantic Ocean.

Anyway, the Oyibo is wasting his time. Nothing is going to change unless other Nigerians are willing to change.

there is a majority Igbo group close to the Atlantic Ocean but they deny their igbo identity they call themselves ikwerres and are majority in Rivers State and have igbo names and culture but deny been igbos

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by codemaniacs: 4:59am On Dec 11, 2023
Irony1:


Are you seriously saying this? Bros see it is better you say you don't know than to be talking from assumption. Even in civil service the marginalisation is there. I have experiences to talk about. Please don't upset anyone with this rubbish you are saying just shut up abeg.

your state civil service made up of 100% igbos so what civil service are you complaining about...

Federal civil service is has every tribe there because every state has their quota.

so stop saying rubbish and getting upset over your own ignorance.

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Ikaeniyan0: 5:02am On Dec 11, 2023
Generalmystic:
You see, when oyibo without a form of interest or emotional attachment to Nigeria speaks, you can't help but agree with him.

I'm not from SE, but that region has been so neglected.

The so called most develop region is neglected?
Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Ikaeniyan0: 5:03am On Dec 11, 2023
codemaniacs:


there is a majority Igbo group close to the Atlantic Ocean but they deny their igbo identity they call themselves ikwerres and are majority in Rivers State and have igbo names and culture but deny been igbos
Ikwerres are not close to the Atlantic ocean, stop disgracing yourself with ignorant comments m

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Re: Santiago Stocker Makes Case For Seaport & Infrastructures In South East by Irony1: 5:05am On Dec 11, 2023
Alaska90:


Another fake news

I challenge you to post a proof!


Let us start.

Western Region had ijora power station. The Eastern region had Oji River and Afam Power Station(now Afam 1). The west had Ikeja Industrial estate, while the east had TransAmadi, Onitsha, Aba and Nnewi Industrial estates. The Eastern region had farming estates in Calabar, Ikot Ekpene, and Umuahia. The East had cement factory built in Nkalagu, long before Ewekoro was built. The ratio of doctors to the population was in the North one doctor to 1000, in the Western region 1: 300, in the east 1: 100, in education the Eastern region was ahead in enrollment numbers than the Western that was why Awolowo introduced free education in 1955. For proof of this go and read the History of Education in Nigeria by Prof Babatunde Fafunwa, he published the enrollment figures from 1940 till 1967. It was only twice that Western region had higher enrollment figures than the Eastern region in 1955 when free education was introduced and 1957

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