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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:06pm On Dec 21, 2023
BlueRayDick:


Omo, public confidence is really on a low.

Imagine they gave me one popular redwine last week at work. I see am where I keep am yesterday I no know whether make I trash am or give person grin

grin grin
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Realmrsean: 12:26pm On Dec 21, 2023

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:33pm On Dec 21, 2023
chidekings:
nairaland is really addictive.

It was hilarious reading from those having withdrawal symptoms for days on Facebook and Twitter.

Turns out those who belittle Nairaland's importance on Twitter and Facebook prior are actually its more ardent users, albeit in seeming anonymous mode.
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Also interesting to read from young people who want Nairaland taken down forever to "teach Séun a lesson". What sort of cruelty would want one to see another young person's legacy fail so badly?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ibime(m): 12:41pm On Dec 21, 2023
BlueRayDick:


This is exactly what I feel too. He's just like somone who made good money from "pool" business which he started years ago and then gets stuck with that money . He closes his eyes to owning a baba ijebu company,owning a sport bets company, owing a casino & bar, owning a chain of hotels and moving to real estate.

He had tried a version of Craigslist and Movie production in the past. He himself has admitted to having some personality or learning challenge that makes him to hide himself from society. We don't know what baba is dealing with. Example below is unusual behaviour from a 40 year old billionaire.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 12:44pm On Dec 21, 2023
Realmrsean:
But why are people not leveraging on this seúns lackadaisical attitude and build an alternative forum?

It seems las las, we ain't that tech savvy.. I mean people will jump on anything that is perceived an upgrade to nairaland..

We are. Nairaland is a forum which serves its purpose - fast-loading pages responsive on all devices (even 2008 Java phones), 18-year SEO indexing, and seeming anonymity.
There were many fora billed to upstage Nairaland but they couldn't match this.

The only features Nairaland needs are:
- UI upgrade
- On-forum messaging
- Trending feature for words and phrases.


When Twitter was doing anyhow.. mark introduced threads, it made Elon stand up and put Twitter back on pedestals..

Line one time gave WhatsApp run for it's money.. before WhatsApp sat up

Why is nobody giving this seun competition?

No. Elon was already overhauling Twitter for almost 9 months before Threads. Threads was and is still nothing more than a stripped-down 2012 version of Twitter. And it's why it has failed.

Most of the features Elon is implementing on Twitter are features he was hinting at 5 years ago if he ever buys Twitter - which he did.


Nairaland's SEO ranking CAN'T be matched. It's still the fastest Google-indexing website in Nigeria. Post on Nairaland and your post is reflecting on Google in 3 minutes.

You should read "Hooked: How to build habit-forming products" by Nir Eyal then you'd understand why others stand no chance. The addictiveness of these fora aren't coincidences - there's a deliberate art to them others can't match. And that's just one reason.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chidekings(m): 12:56pm On Dec 21, 2023
DissTroy:


It was hilarious reading from those having withdrawal symptoms for days on Facebook and Twitter.

Turns out those who belittle Nairaland's importance on Twitter and Facebook prior are actually its more ardent users, albeit in seeming anonymous mode.
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Also interesting to read from young people who want Nairaland taken down forever to "teach Séun a lesson". What sort of cruelty would want one to see another young person's legacy fail so badly?

many people that visit this site daily are really addicted to it unknowingly including me.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 1:02pm On Dec 21, 2023
chidekings:

many people that visit this site daily are really addicted to it unknowingly including me.
There's no other platform where you get aggregation of news all in one place; not in Nigeria or any other clime. Not even Reddit does it well.

If you're too busy to surf through Twitter and news websites for unfolding events and news, Nairaland does it for you.

Garba Shehu, Buhari's spokesman, admitted yesterday morning that logging on to Nairaland is a nightly routine to get a pulse of the (Nigerian) sociopolity.

Like I have always insisted, what we argue, reiterate, state, or counter here (even on this thread) matters.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:08pm On Dec 21, 2023
Ibime:


He had tried a version of Craigslist and Movie production in the past. He himself has admitted to having some personality or learning challenge that makes him to hide himself from society. We don't know what baba is dealing with. Example below is unusual behaviour from a 40 year old billionaire.


Damn! This is serious; I used to think he has reclusive personality like Mike Adenuga the billionaire, but this one loud o.

I know he ran nairalist at a point but I don't know what became of it.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:13pm On Dec 21, 2023
DissTroy:


Also interesting to read from young people who want Nairaland taken down forever to "teach Séun a lesson". What sort of cruelty would want one to see another young person's legacy fail so badly?


This part you highlighted was the most worrying part for me. The number of people who shared with glee how much they want him never to come back up. Shows something about how we think. It's not the first time though

There have been many attempted breakaway platforms before or copycat forums that failed

Personally I missed the few days it was down cos it was my own source of news from various sources. I can't be scurrying news from different Twitter feeds when Nairaland can do a collation of all Naija news for me. I stay up to date with the very latest Naija happening even more than people living in Naija courtesy of Nairaland

I didn't know Chelsea played until late in the evening when someone jokingly referenced it on his whatsapp status when on Nairaland I would at least have an idea

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:22pm On Dec 21, 2023
raumdeuter:


This part you highlighted was the most worrying part for me. The number of people who shared with glee how much they want him never to come back up. Shows something about how we think. It's not the first time though

There have been many attempted breakaway platforms before or copycat forums that failed

Personally I missed the few days it was down cos it was my own source of news from various sources. I can't be scurrying news from different Twitter feeds when Nairaland can do a collation of all Naija news for me. I stay up to date with the very latest Naija happening even more than people living in Naija courtesy of Nairaland

I didn't know Chelsea played until late in the evening when someone jokingly referenced it on his whatsapp status when on Nairaland I would at least have an idea

I think some people are just born with Villian Complex if not, what will anybody gain hoping the site gets taken off the internet completely? Na those kind people go kidnap person, collect ransom and still kill their victim.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Spy360(m): 1:22pm On Dec 21, 2023
Is NL on playstore?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:23pm On Dec 21, 2023
Ibime:


He had tried a version of Craigslist and Movie production in the past. He himself has admitted to having some personality or learning challenge that makes him to hide himself from society. We don't know what baba is dealing with. Example below is unusual behaviour from a 40 year old billionaire.


I knew him as a faculty colleague not close friend between 1998 and say 2001. He has always been socially awkward even when he was flooring all of us in the faculty and was runaway best student before he voluntarily dropped out when he got bored of competing average students and discovered the wonders of the internet

He was roomate with one of my friend in a hostel room of like 9. That was the closest I got to know him. He was a geek and born again. He was about the youngest too. The closest encounter with him was when I went to visit my friend in his room and room was congested so some of us sat on Seuns bed. He came to the room he obviously wanted to rest but he was so shy to tell anyone to stand up and he was parading around the room for hours.

The other time I saw him speak up and heard his voice was when he was arguing religion with another guy like him Lateef who was a tebliq.

For people like Seuun the internet was a savior as he didn't have much social skills to make real world friends and lasting relationships. He will need someone who really understands him. That's why he had problems with many of the mods and most of them quit or were fired

He is the type of person who will be married to his tech job in NASA. Highly functional probably on the spectrum savant

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by wman(m): 1:31pm On Dec 21, 2023
I think Seun has a problem with listening to people and making prompt changes.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:37pm On Dec 21, 2023
wman:
I think Seun has a problem with listening to people and making prompt changes.

What what egbon wrote up there it goes beyond Listening to people.

Obviously he does listen to people, but maybe he sees the imperfection in people's suggestions and doesn't just know how to communicate such concerns to the people which will then lead to a two-way communication at the end of which a reasonable and workable decision will be reached.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by raumdeuter: 1:42pm On Dec 21, 2023
BlueRayDick:


I think some people are just born with Villian Complex if not, what will anybody gain hoping the site gets taken off the internet completely? Na those kind people go kidnap person, collect ransom and still kill their victim.
Some of those wishing he shuts down are still active on the forum when you can just leave if it's not working for you or not your taste

2 weekends ago a friend was sharing news with me how he housed a distant relative who just relocated from Naija. The guy never settle and not found a job yet this guy telling the story normally goes to work but that day he didn't but his guest didn't know and the guest was making a call in the house how he hated the host and prays that his so called wealth and comfort crash

How can you be living under someone's roof and hope he crashes. What will he gain? Yet you sleep under his roof rent free, eat his food his pepper and salt

He was now asking if he should confront the guy and chase the guy out cos it might even be a safety issue for him and his family to live with someone who hates you that much

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by liveLongNprospa(m): 1:44pm On Dec 21, 2023
Yeah... I'm addicted to this forum more than I'd like to admit it.

Fvck😂.
Imagine twitter and nairaland both down at the same time😅
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by chidekings(m): 1:50pm On Dec 21, 2023
raumdeuter:


I knew him as a faculty colleague not close friend between 1998 and say 2001. He has always been socially awkward even when he was flooring all of us in the faculty and was runaway best student before he voluntarily dropped out when he got bored of competing average students and discovered the wonders of the internet

He was roomate with one of my friend in a hostel room of like 9. That was the closest I got to know him. He was a geek and born again. He was about the youngest too. The closest encounter with him was when I went to visit my friend in his room and room was congested so some of us sat on Seuns bed. He came to the room he obviously wanted to rest but he was so shy to tell anyone to stand up and he was parading around the room for hours.

The other time I saw him speak up and heard his voice was when he was arguing religion with another guy like him Lateef who was a tebliq.

For people like Seun the internet was a savior as he didn't have much social skills to make real world friends and lasting relationships. He will need someone who really understands him. That's why he had problems with many of the mods and most of them quit or were fired

He is the type of person who will be married to his tech job in NASA. Highly functional probably on the spectrum savant
with all this revelations,he will really need a very very understanding woman,cus it won't be easy for any woman to deal with such social behavior.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 1:50pm On Dec 21, 2023
wman:
I think Se.un has a problem with listening to people and making prompt changes.

No, it's not that. With people like Séun, you have to communicate almost in binary - pro or con. That's the way they see things. No gray areas.

If you suggest feature X, you have to put numbers on the reason for it. "Nice to have features" wouldn't cut it for him.

Zuckerburg is socially awkward too (or was a recluse for most parts) but he knew his flaw so outsourced the human aspect and communication to his partners.

The problem with Nairaland is, it's run by a solopreneur on Séun's spectrum and he'd resist change because he's really scared of losing control since it's the one thing he has fully in control as human interactions for him are difficult.

If Nairaland were a startup, VCs would flee from it even though it's a potential money-spinner. It's the reason in tech pitch decks, VCs want to see your team and would most likely invest in a startup with 2 or 3 co-founders and a defined founding team so the others can cover for the shortcomings if one of the founders is like Séun or overrule him.
Solo founders are at the button pick for this sole reason these days.

Anything else would incite a hostile takeover.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 1:50pm On Dec 21, 2023
raumdeuter:

Some of those wishing he shuts down are still active on the forum when you can just leave if it's not working for you or not your taste

2 weekends ago a friend was sharing news with me how he housed a distant relative who just relocated from Naija. The guy never settle and not found a job yet this guy telling the story normally goes to work but that day he didn't but his guest didn't know and the guest was making a call in the house how he hated the host and prays that his so called wealth and comfort crash

How can you be living under someone's roof and hope he crashes. What will he gain? Yet you sleep under his roof rent free, eat his food his pepper and salt

He was now asking if he should confront the guy and chase the guy out cos it might even be a safety issue for him and his family to live with someone who hates you that much

I won't even confront him, I will just tell him to leave that I'm expecting my relatives from outside the country and I need to make the house in good shape before they come. I will not even allow him stay up to a week after the call.

Some people's heart are just wicked for no reason.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 1:54pm On Dec 21, 2023
BlueRayDick:


I think some people are just born with Villian Complex if not, what will anybody gain hoping the site gets taken off the internet completely? Na those kind people go kidnap person, collect ransom and still kill their victim.

It’s not villain complex. Na simple envy and bitterness. It is something that appears to be relatively common amongst Africans.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by princeabdul(m): 1:58pm On Dec 21, 2023
chidekings:

with all this revelations,he will really need a very very understanding woman,cus it won't be easy for any woman to deal with such social behavior.
nop I don't think seun's social behavior is that bad, i communicate well on Twitter with him and that has been going on for a while.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by joseph1832(m): 2:02pm On Dec 21, 2023
DissTroy:

It was hilarious reading from those having withdrawal symptoms for days on Facebook and Twitter.

Turns out those who belittle Nairaland's importance on Twitter and Facebook prior are actually its more ardent users, albeit in seeming anonymous mode.
---

Also interesting to read from young people who want Nairaland taken down forever to "teach Séun a lesson". What sort of cruelty would want one to see another young person's legacy fail so badly?
typical Nigerian bad Belle.

People like that hate to see anything succeed that doesn't involve them directly.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ishilove: 2:04pm On Dec 21, 2023
raumdeuter:


I knew him as a faculty colleague not close friend between 1998 and say 2001. He has always been socially awkward even when he was flooring all of us in the faculty and was runaway best student before he voluntarily dropped out when he got bored of competing average students and discovered the wonders of the internet

He was roomate with one of my friend in a hostel room of like 9. That was the closest I got to know him. He was a geek and born again. He was about the youngest too. The closest encounter with him was when I went to visit my friend in his room and room was congested so some of us sat on Seuns bed. He came to the room he obviously wanted to rest but he was so shy to tell anyone to stand up and he was parading around the room for hours.

The other time I saw him speak up and heard his voice was when he was arguing religion with another guy like him Lateef who was a tebliq.

For people like Seun the internet was a savior as he didn't have much social skills to make real world friends and lasting relationships. He will need someone who really understands him. That's why he had problems with many of the mods and most of them quit or were fired

He is the type of person who will be married to his tech job in NASA. Highly functional probably on the spectrum savant
100% correct
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by joseph1832(m): 2:08pm On Dec 21, 2023
BlueRayDick:


I won't even confront him, I will just tell him to leave that I'm expecting my relatives from outside the country and I need to make the house in good shape before they come. I will not even allow him stay up to a week after the call.

Some people's heart are just wicked for no reason.
the reason is envy and jealousy.

Truth is, such people wish they find themselves in the situation they envy and are jealous of. So, since they're not in that situation or condition, they hate, envy or jealous those in such situation/condition.

Ever wonder why you'll see a guy condemn sleeping with prostitutes because he's a broke ass, but, as soon as he hammers....

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by princeabdul(m): 2:11pm On Dec 21, 2023
liveLongNprospa:
Yeah... I'm addicted to this forum more than I'd like to admit it.

Fvck😂.
Imagine twitter and nairaland both down at the same time😅
I'll cry chief, I have deserted my Facebook long term ago, I can't try that with both.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:22pm On Dec 21, 2023
From naptu2

2012: Adsense wahala. Result = Nairaland 2

2014: Data loss tsunami. Result = Cloudflare.

2023: Abuse shutdown. What will be the result?

Seun is going to have to migrate to another platform.

His admitting that NL was shut down by cloud flare for 'abuse' means there will be a uptick in such reports if nairaland is reinstated on cloudflare

Since cancel culture is so popular and there are so many butthurt pikins with an axe to grind.

As to proposals to 'improve' or sell Nairaland - a lot of founders can be reluctant to do that and for good reason.

I have seen multiple products get sold to other companies and go to shit

Twitter is a prime example.
Seun could sell this platform and the next thing is you need a subscription or a real email or it starts scraping your data for Google.

I have had the experience where some product I use were bought over. One app I paid a lifetime license for. Next thing the new owners tried to slap me with subscription.

If you are attached to the product you created it can be galling seeing it turn to something else.

How does jack dorsey feeling watching Twitter devolve into a far right cesspool?

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:29pm On Dec 21, 2023
afrodoc2:


It’s not villain complex. Na simple envy and bitterness. It is something that appears to be relatively common amongst Africans.

Its more than that imho

People who take the internet too personal hold Seun responsible for the tribalism, red pillism, political divisions etc.

Meanwhile Nairaland is really just a mirror of what Nigeria really is. In the early days it was abroadians, upper middle class and people with good jobs who had internet and therefore access to Nairaland. There was a different level of discourse, but it was not truly representative of Nigeria. Now that internet is cheap, the masses have access and we are seeing how majority of Nigerians think and reason.

Of course people are cool with their own tribalism /sexism/ political/leaning /religious stand leanings but want others to be policed.

When this does not happen they say Seun is a bigot

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by DissTroy(m): 2:38pm On Dec 21, 2023
joseph1832:
typical Nigerian bad Belle.

People like that hate to see anything succeed that doesn't involve them directly.

Oddly, they do not realize Nairaland going down is Nigeria's loss. For all of its flaws, Nairaland is Nigeria's oldest and richest digital library. 18 years worth of everything Nigeria and Nigerian. The closest is allafrica.com but it's less than 1/5000 of Nairaland.

Take Nairaland down and the ChatGPT they so enjoy would return half-baked results on Nigerian issues and topics, for example.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by GloriousGbola: 2:45pm On Dec 21, 2023
afrodoc2:


The guy be like person wey hammer through ingenuity and decided to rest on his laurels.

Money don silence ingenuity. Ingenuity don lazzident.

This is actually what happens to big businesses everywhere. Once you reach a particular size, what you want is stability. We complain about the state of Nairaland, but if Seun does something as simple as changing the site layout, people will be up in arms.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Mellijoe: 2:50pm On Dec 21, 2023
You can check out this site https://vouchaah.com/ it's an alternative forum
Realmrsean:
But why are people not leveraging on this seúns lackadaisical attitude and build an alternative forum?

It seems las las, we ain't that tech savvy.. I mean people will jump on anything that is perceived an upgrade to nairaland..

When Twitter was doing anyhow.. mark introduced threads, it made Elon stand up and put Twitter back on pedestals..

Line one time gave WhatsApp run for it's money.. before WhatsApp sat up

Why is nobody giving this seun competition?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by afrodoc2: 2:51pm On Dec 21, 2023
GloriousGbola:


This is actually what happens to big businesses everywhere. Once you reach a particular size, what you want is stability. We complain about the state of Nairaland, but if Seun does something as simple as changing the site layout, people will be up in arms.

There is a fine line between stability and stagnation. Maintaining the status quo is fine as long as it is not leading to negative experiences. Big businesses also evolve with the times and keep rebranding themselves to keep up with changes in the business ecosystem.

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