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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:34pm On Jan 20 |
This Mauritanian goalie is long Just checked, and he's listed as 6'5. Looks taller than that, cos he's very slim. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 7:41pm On Jan 20 |
Caicedobets:how ironic ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 7:44pm On Jan 20 |
These people are too obsessed with shooting from range. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Elnino4ladies: 7:45pm On Jan 20 |
BlueMann: Exactly!! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 8:33pm On Jan 20 |
Leverkusen...wow. Twice behind at Leipzig, twice they equalized and then they grabbed the winner late in stoppage time. Amazing show of character. Grimaldo continues to be Europe's most menacing full back, with two assists. 18 g/a, and we're only still in January. Leverkusen's unbeaten season continues. Onus now on Bayern to respond with a similar result. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:44pm On Jan 20 |
BlueMann: Last week too they grabbed a late winner Their luck will soon runout |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:51pm On Jan 20 |
Leyqute: If their so called expected mates are not doing well, not qualifying for tournaments or getting knocked out in group phase then who do we blame? The older generation did they beat any of their mates at any tournament? From 2002 to 2016? I haven't checked but can barely remember At least current team will say they beat Germany in Euro 2020 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 8:54pm On Jan 20 |
raumdeuter: Germany has been rubbish in the last 5 years abeg Super eagles would also have defeated Germany home and away 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:58pm On Jan 20 |
AdisaOwala: There were rubbish teams that the older generation could not beat Go and see the teams that knocked them out of 2014 world cup |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 9:05pm On Jan 20 |
raumdeuter: If we are to critically assess the 2 English sides in terms of talent/player quality, the older Generation trumps this current crop of players.... The failures of them Rooney and co dey very embarrassing tbvh but they weren't the only ones : the Argentina team 2006 -2010 readily comes to mind. Prime messi failed miserably with them Prime Tevez/Aguero etc that year but won world cup with them McAllister and co... E dey happen 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:11pm On Jan 20 |
Una sure say Nigeria go reach Finals? Other teams seem to be balling See Mali goal. Choi! 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:13pm On Jan 20 |
AdisaOwala: Football is about balance I don't agree that that England generation was better than this one nor that the Argentina generation of 2006 to 2010 was better than this one That England Generation lacked a DM, LW and a number 9 and arguably a RB and GK. The lack of DM harmed them everytime, and they also had to shoehorn an obsolete David Beckham in a 4-4-2 outdated system Just because of Beckhams popularity. They lost every midfield battle as a result. Imagine playing Lampard, Gerrard, Joe Cole, Beckham midfield with Rooney and Heskey as striker. How is this remotely a good team except for 3 names on paper? Argentina team of 2010 had same problem, their midfield was non existent and therefore they are nowhere close to this generation 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A001: 9:17pm On Jan 20 |
RLC puts Milan ahead. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by izzou(m): 9:21pm On Jan 20 |
Tunisia Ndi boolu. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:32pm On Jan 20 |
AdisaOwala: You are basically giving Argentina 4yrs of evaluation and England 2000 to 2016. 16yrs Compare them Argentina 2006 lost to Germany Argentina 2010 lost to Germany Vs England was crashing out to Iceland, not qualifying for Euro 2008, failing to qualify in a group of Costa Rica |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 9:44pm On Jan 20 |
Ibime: Las Las, it would all be down to personal preference/opinion cos when I remember say na them Pickford (who isn't really an upgrade on Robinson), Stones, Declan rice, Mason Mount we wan dey compare to them Ferdinand, Campbell, Hargreaves (quality DM), Gerrard, Scholes Rooney etc, I no know how to continue. Argie with Riquelme, Mascherano, Lucho Gonzalez, Cambiaso etc no get midfield that year? Okay o |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:45pm On Jan 20 |
Ibime: While I agree with the overall premise of your post about having a balance seeing a team like Argentina will parade 4 world class attackers including a GOAT but have 2nd division keepers and defenders. You can have weak spot as long as the players there are decent enough to play 1st division league level football With England 2000 to 2016. All their first 11 were Top league level starters. G.Neville though not world class was decent/serviceable, They had decent enough GK, James is still better than this Pickford, trying to shoehorn some undroppable players like Gerrard into formations also cost them plus many teams at that time were prime. That England team at that strength brought to this generation when everyone is almost useless will do better Even right now this England Generation is doing patch patch in Goal keeping, LB CB and are heavy in some areas like RB Argentina just won a world cup with Otamendi Romero CB Add Tagliafico Molina Enzo DePaul and MacAlister. Thats like 70% of the team mid Tournament football has a format and its to stay solid defensively, counter and use set pieces well You can win a tournament with 7 defensive work horses 1 mercurial AM and 1 sharp attacker 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 9:56pm On Jan 20 |
raumdeuter: On paper, Argentina was stronger than Germany on the 2 occasions you listed... The point here is that the Argies were also terrible underachievers, given the crop of players they paraded raumdeuter: That's why I agreed that the results were terribly shocking Na team strength/quality I dey talk and I still maintain that the older Generation team was stronger than this current set 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:58pm On Jan 20 |
AdisaOwala: If Argentina was stronger than Germany it was still marginal. One of them Germany was at home and won via penalties None was on the level of embarrassment England faced sometimes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:13pm On Jan 20 |
AdisaOwala: See am na, where is the midfield here. Not a single CM amongst them, and a CB who has long since pafuka as a DM playing DM. Why won't they chop 4-0. Many names on paper does not make a team. This team is useless and midfield is nonexistent
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 10:23pm On Jan 20 |
Ibime: The coach shoulda paired Mascherano with Javier Pastore - the combination woulda made the team more balanced. This one na Maradonna fault abeg |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 10:25pm On Jan 20 |
AdisaOwala: Is Pastore a CM? Another useless passenger AM Let's go down the substitute list and point out a CM for me. That Argentina team was simply wack. You can never win without at least performing basic functions of each area of the pitch and Argentina had no functional midfield
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 10:43pm On Jan 20 |
Ibime: Lol Pastore,an AM by default, has played (and thrived) in a CM role - we both know this! Aside that,was it lack of CM that made them Messi, Di maria, Tevez etc to fire blanks vs a defence of Federich and Per-fucking-Metersacker? Okay o 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:04pm On Jan 20 |
izzou:Because the team is not balance. Ndidi was greatly missed. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 11:04pm On Jan 20 |
It’s rare to see African teams recording the score-lines we had today. End to end stuffs, attacking setups and entertaining games. Not the usual gidigbo footie they’re known for. Good development honestly. It hasn’t been a bad mundial, and I’m sure more are still to come in the KO stages. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon: 11:20pm On Jan 20 |
AdisaOwala: Where did Pastore thrive as a CM? At Palermo, It was Nocerino who was running the show with some other Italian ninjas in the midfield. At PSG, Matuidi was the lone CM in the team when Pastore was signed. One would have expected the club to forgo the option of signing additional CMs, since they had Pastore, who according to you thrived in a CM position. However, the club went ahead to sign Verrati, Rabiot and Cabaye. So where did he thrive as a CM? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 11:42pm On Jan 20 |
Griffon: If you check my initial post, I clearly stated that his Primary role was AM. However, when pushed deeper, he did well.. Espn: Roma: Javier Pastore: gazzettadellosport: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1733302-paris-saint-germain-laurent-blancs-fragile-midfield-needs-a-makeover
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:24am On Jan 21 |
AdisaOwala: Story. Pastore was a wack CM and whatever runbish he learned of that role was in his later years, not in 2010 Argentina went to that tournament with 2 CBs barely capable of playing DM (Mascherano and Dimechelis) and no CM whatsoever No natural DM, no natural CM, they were a wack team and got rightfully booted out. 100 Tevez, Agueros, Higuains and Messis won't compensate for a wack squad. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 12:38am On Jan 21 |
Ibime: Lol Okay o |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 1:31am On Jan 21 |
raumdeuter: We shall see Regardless, it's been an unbelievable run These mfs have not lost a single game this season! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 1:45am On Jan 21 |
raumdeuter: I was going to say the same thing. It has to be mentally draining and you can only get so much luck doing that, especially in a league format that is only halfway. With that being said, Alonso is doing one hell of a job with this team. I have good memories of players like Neuville, Basturk, ZeReberto, Lucio, Ramelow, a younger Ballack, a young Berbatov.. they lit up the Champions league 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 2:22am On Jan 21 |
Ibime: Let's even disagree to agree on Pastore, whose fault was it that Cambiasso and Javier Zanetti - 2 midfielders in excellent form at that time, were left out of the World cup? Like I said earlier, blame Maradona Biko! And to think they could line up like this with Higuain Di Maria Diego Milito Mascherano All on the bench? The kinda players Argentina had in 2010 - them suppose wipe Maradonna Oraimo cord for neck for failing to achieve anything tangible.
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