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Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 8:37am On Feb 01
Matrix137:
My guy cool down

You go soon run maad o. Take am easy abeg


I won't run mad.
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by LordReed(m): 8:39am On Feb 01
Dtruthspeaker:


Even after all the very.deep evils and blasphemies you have seen him do which you do not see any normal person does?

I have always told you, that you should stop deceiving yourself and hiding in the shield of denial which always breaks at the very moment when you required it.

For every discerning person can clearly see that, lordReed clearly shows what and how Satan decieves people by playing with both their intelligence and stupidity to their own destruction.

So where people are doubting the existence of satan, what i do is refer them here and tell them to check him out whether they won't see that he is a living example of Satan.



So when God said He created evil, He created it only after Satan was first evil, eh? And yet there is a question of where that evil which Satan did comes from.



What is else is a curse if a person does not carry out the action that brings it?



Off Point!
See as my name sweet for your mouth. Go on sowun! Bwahahahahahahahahaha!
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Matrix137(m): 8:40am On Feb 01
Westerhoffe:



I won't run mad.
I hope Soo too
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Naijanascam: 8:47am On Feb 01
Dtruthspeaker:


What about politicians and cheating partners and scammers, who fuels them?



Their dirty mindset did... Stop blaming the devil because it never existed....
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 8:59am On Feb 01
Westerhoffe:



And you're arguing?

Who mentioned Jasher n Enoch?
Are they books included in the Bible?
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 9:41am On Feb 01
Aemmyjah:


Who mentioned Jasher n Enoch?
Are they books included in the Bible?


But they're mentioned in the Bible.

“And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.”
— Joshua 10:13 (KJV)

“(Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)”
— 2 Samuel 1:18 (KJV)

“And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,”
— Jude 1:14 (KJV)


This is why you need to "Search the Scriptures.
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 9:42am On Feb 01
Matrix137:
I hope Soo too


Don't wish me bad.
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 10:29am On Feb 01
Westerhoffe:



But they're mentioned in the Bible.

“And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.”
— Joshua 10:13 (KJV)

“(Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)”
— 2 Samuel 1:18 (KJV)

“And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,”
— Jude 1:14 (KJV)


This is why you need to "Search the Scriptures.

Bible authors makes reference to some books, letters and chronicles. Still they are not part of the sacred scriptures.
There is no reference to the book of Enoch in the Bible. Only a reference to who he is, his genealogical line and what he may have done or said
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Westerhoffe(m): 10:53am On Feb 01
Aemmyjah:


Bible authors makes reference to some books, letters and chronicles. Still they are not part of the sacred scriptures.
There is no reference to the book of Enoch in the Bible. Only a reference to who he is, his genealogical line and what he may have done or said


Does that rule out his book?

And the Book of Jasher?
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FxMasterz: 10:55am On Feb 01
Aemmyjah:


Bible authors makes reference to some books, letters and chronicles. Still they are not part of the sacred scriptures.
There is no reference to the book of Enoch in the Bible. Only a reference to who he is, his genealogical line and what he may have done or said

He was showing you that Jude quoted that verse in Jude 1:14 from the Book of Enoch. Jude actually quoted it word for word

Remember that when Christ said search the scriptures, the Bible as we have it today was not yet collated. We must look exactly into the scriptures that were available at the time Jesus spoke, as well as the scriptures of the New Testament that came as a result of Jesus' works.
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:00am On Feb 01
FxMasterz:


He was showing you that Jude quoted that verse in Jude 1:14 from the Book of Enoch. Jude actually quoted it word for word

Remember that when Christ said search the scriptures, the Bible as we have it today was not yet collated. We must look exactly into the scriptures that were available at the time Jesus spoke, as well as the scriptures of the New Testament that came as a result of Jesus' works.

There are places where Bible authors make references to books not included in the Bible
Jude was referencing to what Enoch said, not a book. If Jude was referencing to Noah, will you say there was a certain book of Noah.

The scriptures Jesus mentioned included the pentateuch, the Psalms, Proverbs and the prophets. We still have them today.
The ones you have in the NT were written by the Apostles after his ascension
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FFIA: 11:01am On Feb 01
Westerhoffe:
….
bloomingdale don the suck ur prick abi? cool
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 11:02am On Feb 01
Westerhoffe:



Does that rule out his book?

And the Book of Jasher?

Yes, and every other book not added to the scriptures.
Not that these books are bad or evil or may have had misinformation
They are non-canonical or part of the sacred scriptures
Simple
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FxMasterz: 11:18am On Feb 01
Aemmyjah:


There are places where Bible authors make references to books not included in the Bible
Jude was referencing to what Enoch said, not a book. If Jude was referencing to Noah, will you say there was a certain book of Noah.

The scriptures Jesus mentioned included the pentateuch, the Psalms, Proverbs and the prophets. We still have them today.
The ones you have in the NT were written by the Apostles after his ascension

I am telling you Jude quoted the Book of Enoch word for word. Or are you just answering me for the purpose of argument?

Enock lived about 4,000yrs before Jude, how could Jude have quoted Enock word for word if not from a written book?

Again, the Bible as we have it today was not in existence is Christ's day. What scriptures did Christ refer to at the time?
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by BloomingDale(f): 11:28am On Feb 01
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FFIA: 11:31am On Feb 01
BloomingDale:
How far?

I wan buy fish.

na how much? cool
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by BloomingDale(f): 11:33am On Feb 01
Aemmyjah:


I don't understand sir

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

God is both good and evil. If he was not evil, his creation will have no evil. He is all things, both good and evil. He has his evil side, he has his good side.
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by BloomingDale(f): 11:35am On Feb 01
FFIA:
How far?

I wan buy fish.

na how much? cool

Abeg make you leave me. I dey enjoy my peace today.
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:02pm On Feb 01
BloomingDale:


I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

God is both good and evil. If he was not evil, his creation will have no evil. He is all things, both good and evil. He has his evil side, he has his good side.


He has no evil side
He is not good and evil
You misunderstood the context of the verse
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:03pm On Feb 01
FxMasterz:


I am telling you Jude quoted the Book of Enoch word for word. Or are you just answering me for the purpose of argument?

Enock lived about 4,000yrs before Jude, how could Jude have quoted Enock word for word if not from a written book?

Again, the Bible as we have it today was not in existence is Christ's day. What scriptures did Christ refer to at the time?

Enoch himself wrote a book?
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by BloomingDale(f): 12:11pm On Feb 01
Aemmyjah:



He has no evil side
He is not good and evil
You misunderstood the context of the verse

He has no evil yet he is the creator of all things and has the ability to create evil. It takes an evil mind to come up with certain concepts, oga. He is both evil and good. Thats why I find the concept of Jesus ridiculous.
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 12:13pm On Feb 01
FxMasterz:


I am telling you Jude quoted the Book of Enoch word for word. Or are you just answering me for the purpose of argument?

Enock lived about 4,000yrs before Jude, how could Jude have quoted Enock word for word if not from a written book?

Again, the Bible as we have it today was not in existence is Christ's day. What scriptures did Christ refer to at the time?

that book of Enoch is a fanciful work of uncertain origin, falsely attributed to Enoch

Jesus quoted mostly from the Psalms and Prophet Isaiah.

R. C. H. Lenski notes: “We ask: ‘What is the source of this patchwork, the Book of Enoch?’ This book is an accretion, and nobody is sure of the dates of its various parts . . . ; nobody can be sure that some of its expressions were not, perhaps, taken from Jude himself.”

The book of Enoch is generally believed to have been written between 200 and 100 BCE. Could you say that is a work of the man who the Bible described as the seventh in line from Adam? 🤷‍♂️
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FxMasterz: 12:29pm On Feb 01
Aemmyjah:


that book of Enoch is a fanciful work of uncertain origin, falsely attributed to Enoch

Jesus quoted mostly from the Psalms and Prophet Isaiah.

R. C. H. Lenski notes: “We ask: ‘What is the source of this patchwork, the Book of Enoch?’ This book is an accretion, and nobody is sure of the dates of its various parts . . . ; nobody can be sure that some of its expressions were not, perhaps, taken from Jude himself.”

The book of Enoch is generally believed to have been written between 200 and 100 BCE. Could you say that is a work of the man who the Bible described as the seventh in line from Adam? 🤷‍♂️

We know.

What I'm telling you is that Jude quoted from it. We're not talking about the Book's origin.
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FxMasterz: 12:30pm On Feb 01
Aemmyjah:


Enoch himself wrote a book?

No one ever said that.
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by PARADIZEPRIEST: 12:42pm On Feb 01
GOD CREATED THE HEAVENS AND THE EARTH,EVERY THING THERE IN.
DEVIL MEANS DEFIANT Character. SO IF A BEING DEFIANTLY CHALLENGE YOUR FATHER'S AUTHORITY YOU BECOME A DEVIL angry.
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:02pm On Feb 01
Naijanascam:

Their dirty mindset did... Stop blaming the devil because it never existed....

Yet you wonder how you ended up doing those things you swore you would never do or the best one where you are wondering how you got into the shit you got into desspite all your intelligence.

It is quite ok for now that Satan is your friend else you would have known that "a thousand known enemies is better than one unknown enemy" Mouloud Benzadi
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Dtruthspeaker: 1:10pm On Feb 01
Aemmyjah:

And you agree that we are not cursed when this thought surface right?

See argument in a circle. And you have gone back to "What else is a curse if a person does not carry out the action that brings it?"
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by FFIA: 1:11pm On Feb 01
BloomingDale:


Abeg make you leave me. I dey enjoy my peace today.
You fish fit sweet small, make I get some use am make sushi cool
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:21pm On Feb 01
Dtruthspeaker:


See argument in a circle. And you have gone back to "What is else is a curse if a person does not carry out the action that brings it?"

If an agbero slaps you and spit in you and curse yo mama and damage parts of your car
In your mind, you want to tear him into pieces for such act. That's the instinct but you did not.
Are you cursed for such instinct?
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:23pm On Feb 01
FxMasterz:


We know.

What I'm telling you is that Jude quoted from it. We're not talking about the Book's origin.

Show us where the Bible says Jude quoted from the Book of Enoch?
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by Aemmyjah(m): 2:24pm On Feb 01
BloomingDale:


He has no evil yet he is the creator of all things and has the ability to create evil. It takes an evil mind to come up with certain concepts, oga. He is both evil and good. Thats why I find the concept of Jesus ridiculous.

The bible says there's no evil with God.
You mention evil mind
Does your statement make sense to you?
Re: Did God Create The Devil? by BloomingDale(f): 2:26pm On Feb 01
Aemmyjah:


The bible says there's no evil with God.
You mention evil mind
Does your statement make sense to you?

Oga, your God is also Satan. There is no third party Satan anywhere. Evil and Good, opposite sides of the same coin.

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