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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 1:36am On May 29 |
Janosky: Ecc_7:6 For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool very dum and confused lost fraud jw janosky we all know what qanna/jealous, means most dum and confused one jealous H7067 קַנָּא qannâ' kan-naw' From H7065; jealous: - jealous. jealous: feeling or showing resentment for instance, God was jealous/resentful, at israel going after other gods yes the word "name" is in the hebrew text: שֵׁם shêm shame honor, authority, character, name, renown here is two verses you posted in your screenshot claiming the word "name" is not in them: (for thou shalt worship no other god: for Jehovah, whose name is jealous, is a jealous God); for ye shall not worship strange gods, for the Lord God, a jealous name, is a jealous God; i of course could give you many translations of that verse which contain the word "name" you so dum, aren't you Exo 34:14 for you shall not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name (characteristic) is Jealous, is a jealous God u cannot even see that the meanings of original and nwt are different: nas Exo 34:14 for you shall not worship any other god, for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God nwt You must not bow down to another god, for Jehovah is known for requiring exclusive devotion. Yes, he is a God who requires exclusive devotion. verse 14 of the original is about not worshipping other gods, because God is a jealous God it tells us one of the characteristics of God; "jealous" shem/name: authority, character, name verse 14 of your nwt is about not worshipping other gods, because God requires exclusive devotion, not because God is a jealous God, which the original say once again, talk about a dunce, you sure are and once again your nwt is perverted, not just in that verse but in many |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by johnw47: 2:42am On May 29 |
dum false jw's are against education, and doesn't it show 1 Like |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by OnknownSoldier(m): 2:43am On May 29 |
grandstar: Awesome! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:02am On May 29 |
grandstar: Their problem is pride! They want to be welcomed in the midst of the people they view as abnormal due to the faith so they go about with the intention of saying bad things about them! 1Peter 4:4 If someone becomes my close associate due to what we both share but suddenly turn away from it is it possible we remain associates? ![]() |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:12am On May 29 |
grandstar: My brother, this achorladey has rendered his conscience dead after he joined apostates so whenever a comment strikes his conscience it's MANIPULATION to him as he realizes that such comment will surely touch the heart of sincere individuals! ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:20am On May 29 |
bizhop01: Before talking about a religion please try to do some research so you won't pass a wrong impression about them. No member of Jehovah's Witnesses expect good leadership in any part of the world that's why we are preaching zealously about God's Kingdom as solution to mankind's problem! |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by Stayingalive: 7:18am On May 29 |
Janosky:There is No such principle about birthday, there is none, Jehovah witness invented such word. There is no record where Jesus warned any of his disciples against celebrating birthday. But Jehovah witness being greater than the maker themselves, deem it fit to indoctrinate and fight against it so badly. That they can alienate their members who do such. What a passive aggressive manner of indoctrination. Jesus also didn’t do some other things, - he didn’t build any house - he didn’t marry, neither does he have any children or knew any woman - he didn’t own property - he didn’t go to hospital - he didn’t have any academic profession aside being a healer and miracle worker. Jesus was focused and set apart for the mission he came to accomplish, it is as simple as it sounds. He didn’t even live up to 40 years and that was intentional. Jesus didn’t address others in a passive aggressive manner and advice people to not marry outside synagogues. King Solomon, Paul and David were men after God heart and lived life in their own way. God didn’t forsake them. Neither did Jesus Everything is with a purpose, stop misguiding people and enforcing laws even Jesus himself didn’t impose 2 Likes |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by Stayingalive: 7:25am On May 29 |
MaxInDHouse:Sounding very misguided and egocentric without any practicality. You’re preaching Jehovah Witness. You’re not anything like Jehovah himself 1 Like |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by Stayingalive: 7:29am On May 29 |
Oseone1:Can you confidently say anyone sinned because they smoked? So don’t invent what is to be sin and not. Jehovah witness are priding to be an authority they are not 1 Like |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:44am On May 29 |
Stayingalive: Stayingalive: Please what exactly do you want from Jehovah's Witnesses? Because from my own personal experience no church approves smoking and no church that doesn't preach about holiness so there's no reason singling out one as if they've become evildoers for doing almost the same thing others do! |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 7:57am On May 29 |
MaxInDHouse: This one knows the lies and manipulations packed into his madness and insanities peddling brains cannot counter what I just typed ![]() ![]() ![]() My brother, this achorladey has rendered his conscience dead after he joined apostates I don't need that slacks and pants regimented conscience given to you by your GODS of men housed in USA saying you cannot now speak with disfellowshipped person. Awon we don't have clergy class ![]() ![]() ![]() whenever a comment strikes his conscience it's MANIPULATION This one knows the exposure of that his slacks and pants wearing regimented conscience peddling madness and insanities on nairaland has no hold on me the next is to run away from the lies and manipulations exposed. to him as he realizes that such comment will surely touch the heart of sincere individuals! Hide behind your sincere hearted ones as it consoles your madness and insanities peddling brains ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by freshboi88: 8:34am On May 29 |
Aemmyjah: It is Normal that God's being will not make sense to me or to you as we are mere mortals with finite knowledge. Therefore we cannot comprehend or fully understand an infinite God. What is not normal is you trying to box an infinite God into your finite knowledge. This is how you know u r in the wrong. What I speak of God is what he has revealed in his word. If you want to go scriptural then say so, and I will show you from both the old and new testament that yes, The Father is God, the Son is God and the Holy Spirit is God. 2 Likes |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 8:36am On May 29 |
grandstar: An attribute of Jehovah's Witnesses is once you expose their lies and manipulations on nairaland the next thing is to attack you.... You just want to be unreasonable. To hide the truth and realities in your midst you say I just want to be unreasonable ![]() ![]() Just this truth and clear happening and realities about the hierarchy in your midst scattered your Jehovah’s witnesses don't have a clergy class. Here it is again and your unreasonable peddling An ordinary publisher cannot do shepherding call to an elder. Meaning a publisher and an elder are not in the same class. Circuit overseers are not in the same class with elders. Branch committee members are not in same class with circuit overseers Branch committee members are not in the same class with Helpers to the Governing Body Governing body are not in the same class with helpers to the Governing Body Elders take the lead and don't lord it over us. We also do not call them elder this or that. We call them brother. There was a time a shook a circuit overseer with a slight reference and an elder looked at me quizzically Peddle your unreasonable here Publishers can take the lead in conducting shepherding calls to the house of an elder. ![]() ![]() ![]() We also do not call them elder this or that. We call them brother. Elders wait behind after the meeting is different from brothers wait behind after the meeting. ![]() How do you know a person is an elder in your midst? I want to check something. Do you have people becoming elders automatically or you refer to them as elders on your own without appointment? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I remember when my cousin became a pastor. He made us know that henceforth, he wanted to be addressed as a pastor. No such thing happens with us. Have you heard there are uniform pastors and those who are not putting on uniform. I don't need to call you an elder here and there. I only need to be told by someone that you are and the label stick even without calling you and yet they still refer or call them elders ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I was on private reproof for 5 years, so should be resentful and support your stance. Which calamity you committee that made the clergy class called elders reprove you? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() How do you know what a shepherding call is? You sure sey you dey go meeting and put mind for wetin dem dey do for there. Something scattered in your watchtowers and study materials especially those dealing with topics related with elders. We know the elders nowadays are bogged down with how to provide needs for their families shepherding calls is no longer their thing anymore. No time ![]() ![]() ![]() Were you disfellowshipped? Na person wey dem disfellowship they know about shepherding calls ![]() ![]() ![]() Cc Courz, Oteneaaron ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 8:39am On May 29 |
freshboi88: I have seen the bold before definitely from Muttleylaff. Jehovah is a monopoly product of Jehovah's Witnesses. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MightySparrow: 9:28am On May 29 |
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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MightySparrow: 9:30am On May 29 |
[quote author=Janosky post=130191356][/quote] Is NWT a translation, transliteration, or commentary? A dishonest rendition of scriptures ![]() 1 Like |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by oteneaaron(m): 10:45am On May 29 |
achorladey: Don't forget that Elders have a book or manual called "Shepherd the Flock of God" - that book is for their eyes only. Every other member of the congregation is BANNED from reading that book. Don't be a LIAR @Grandstar - there is a clear difference between rank-and-file JWs and the Elders - this is a fact. Moreso, the Governing Body has taught that Elders are "Princes" to whom you must give respect. 3 Likes |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by Aemmyjah(m): 11:10am On May 29 |
bizhop01: If there's a good leader, everyone will vote him in. We don't even expect anyone to want to oppose him. Is every political leader good? Cos people actually voted them in |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 11:30am On May 29 |
oteneaaron: Thanks for bringing that out too. I don't want him to get to that shepherd book first. ![]() ![]() ![]() He wants to deny the very evidence of his own very eyes and ears because the GODS of men housed in USA say so. This how their GODS of men housed in USA define Elder: A spiritually mature male Witness appointed to teach and to provide pastoral care for the well-being of congregation members. An elder must meet the Scriptural qualifications as outlined at 1 Timothy 3:1-7; Titus 1:5-9; James 3:17, 18; and 1 Peter 5:2. Dictionary meaning of clergy.... Clergy: a group ordained to perform pastoral or sacerdotal functions in a Christian church They just want to remain with the lies and manipulations packed into their brains that they don't have a clergy class. That's why their religious leaders always add paid to the clergy class to redefine it more ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by grandstar(m): 12:24pm On May 29 |
achorladey: You lack appreciation for spiritual things. The Igbos in the past had no king Should I say that's not possible for people living in a community have no king.. I argue that the highest ranking chief in that village is their king, that they must have a king. Because I do not understand that the concept does not make it false. The British must have been astonished to meet the Igbos, a peiple who ruled without king.. Governing was a challenge as the Igbos had no king and the British applied indirect rule to govern Nigeria as a colony. The British were compelled to create kings in Igbo land to rule through them. |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by Stayingalive: 1:57pm On May 29 |
MaxInDHouse:Smoking is against many doctrine ranging from traditions, medical, conventional etiquette and even legally, you are only permitted to smoke in your house if there are no children around. Your church doctrine is not the same thing as what is right and wrong in the eye of God. What ever is against the will of God, what ever is against love thy neighbor and love thy Self and love of God is a sin. But saying your church doctrines equates with the will of God and if someone else go against is then they sin is the biggest blackmail you can unleash on your neighbors. You’re also Infact trying to manipulate them. But as it seem, Jehovah witness doctrine right is at par with the written laws and words of the Bible. I shake my head. Adding and editing the word with unwritten rules Smoking is in my opinion against love of thyself, because it damages one’s health and body which is suppose to be the temple to God. But then if/she smokes only in the closest and does not lead his/her neighbors astray then he/she can only be judged by God. So until you start corrupting others or harming others, no one can harm you except God himself, who is the Judge of everything Smoking isn’t same as evil against your neighbors e.g Murder, covetousness or stealing that actually is not a love for thy Neighbor. That one, you will have to be put down and Paul advice we restraint you and if possible prevent you from corrupting other brethrens |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:15pm On May 29 |
Stayingalive: So what exactly are you trying to say if you're against smoking? |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 2:16pm On May 29 |
grandstar: You will keep attacking to drive your points. That's how the way you reason works You lack appreciation for spiritual things It will not change the fact that Jehovah’s witnesses have clergy class in their midst. Their own very definition say so. The reason you cannot answer the simple question that says do publishers do shepherding call on elders not to talk of even on fellow publishers? ![]() ![]() Reality says it goes beyond their jurisdiction because there is a class of men appointed into such position called elders What they do Igbo land is not what they do in the religious organization of Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah’s witnesses have a clergy class. ![]() ![]() |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by grandstar(m): 2:23pm On May 29 |
achorladey: You're obviously an apostate who was driven out of God's organisation. Please stay out as long as you want. You're aren't welcome back until you come to your senses. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by grandstar(m): 2:27pm On May 29 |
ReacherSaidNoth: I was on private reproof for 5yrs and I wasn't allowed to do talks nor answer questions. I didn't see it as punitive. It was corrective and set me on tge right path The true God punishes those who he loves just like any father. |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:30pm On May 29 |
grandstar: Would you believe that the same person once defend the organization on this same forum? Well that's what Jesus meant by filling out hearts with God's word surely he stop personal Bible study that's why Satan came back with demons more wicked to take over his heart completely! Matthew 12:43-45 |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On May 29 |
@ grandstar Please check the screenshot below you will see where one of these pickers CURSED achorladey that he will be kicked out of God's organization and it happened exactly as said! ![]()
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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by grandstar(m): 3:10pm On May 29 |
MaxInDHouse: If he was just disfellowshipped, there's more hope for him now. By becoming an apostate. he has used his own hands to dig his grave. |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:16pm On May 29 |
grandstar:He thought these Churchgoers are just mere humans, how can someone curse his neighbour saying in few months he will be kicked out of the group of his choice and so it happened if not that they're into sorcery? Do you know that within few months later achorladey became an apostate and is now much more zealous than ever? But now instead of speaking for God's organization he's going from one thread to another criticizing his once cherished group. ![]() My brother it's really amazing! ![]()
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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 3:41pm On May 29 |
grandstar: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() You're obviously an apostate who was driven out of God's organisation. The point that Jehovah’s witnesses hold on to to run away when their lies and manipulations packed into their brains are exposed. For the records I am not reproved like you so you can imagine any kind of machinations and sin I was driven out for. My disassociation letter met them in utmost shock. That's part of their policies and procedures for those who no longer wants to be a member. Call me apostate till eternity, I no longer answer to them. They never see it coming. I can tell you that till tomorrow. Some of them cannot even understand it. ![]() ![]() ![]() Please stay out as long as you want. Na my leg I use enter l, na leg I use waka comot. No be you go tell me that one. You're aren't welcome back until you come to your senses. That's attributes of a captive and gaslighting religious organization ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Gaslight.... to trick or control someone by making them believe that their memories or beliefs about something are wrong, especially by suggesting that they may be mentally ill Captive organization... captivity occurs when a self-directed organism comes under someone else’s control for that person’s sole benefit. More in the image attached. Now to your until you come to your senses Let's analyse Is it wrong for members of Jehovah witness to disassociate from the religious organization of Jehovah's Witnesses based on their policies and procedures? No Is it wrong for members of Jehovah witness to freely disassociate based on their right there freedom of association from the religious organization of Jehovah's Witnesses based on their policies and procedures? No Does leaving Jehovah's Witnesses religious organization makes the one who freely does so not in his right senses? Grandstar respond to this question ![]() ![]() ![]() Do Jehovah's Witnesses see anyone leaving the Catholic Church to Jehovah’s witnesses as persons not in their right senses? Grandstar respond to this question ![]() ![]() ![]() Does people leaving the religious organization of Jehovah's Witnesses means people are not in their right senses? Grandstar respond to this question ![]() ![]() ![]() For the records Jehovah's Witnesses refer to those who leave their religious organization as apostates and also mentally ill or mentally diseased ![]() ![]() ![]() That tells me more about a religious organization that gaslight it's members and also a captive one.
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Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 3:58pm On May 29 |
MaxInDHouse: Had I denied or lied like your madness and insanities peddling brains does always on nairaland that I didn't defend Jehovah's Witnesses on this platform. Your insanities and madness peddling will not stop about that. You will be shouting cowards up and down and liar. ![]() ![]() A liar and a manipulator like you said you are doing Bible study while already a member of Jehovah's Witnesses deceiving and manipulating people on nairaland ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Well that's what Jesus meant by filling out hearts with God's word surely he stop personal Bible study that's why Satan came back with demons more wicked to take over his heart completely! The same Jesus said.... ‘I know your deeds, and your labor and endurance, and that you cannot tolerate bad men, and that you put to the test those who say they are apostles,+ but they are not, and you found them to be liars You want me to accept the same set of people who call themselves faithful and discreet slave who said even when they are lying I must accept it in order to keep unity at all cost. I should be united with them in lies and manipulations of people. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Men will expel you from the synagogue. In fact, the hour is coming when everyone who kills you will think he has offered a sacred service to God That's what your religious organization and leaders does to those they know found them to be liars. I was not even kicked out I left them in their lies and manipulations packed into your madness and insanities peddling brains ![]() ![]() ![]() His parents said these things because they were in fear of the Jews, for the Jews had already come to an agreement that if anyone acknowledged him as Christ, that person should be expelled from the synagogue. You want me to be afraid of men like me to avoid being kicked out of their establishment based on keep unity at all cost based on lies. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: 7 Reasons Why I Respect The Jehovah’s Witnesses by achorladey: 4:02pm On May 29 |
MaxInDHouse: Indeed I cannot be faithful to those I tested and found to be liars Brocab your words have come to fulfillment ![]() ![]() Please check the screenshot below you will see where one of these pickers CURSED achorladey The the abundance of your hearts added cursed to Brocab's words. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() that he will be kicked out of God's organization and it happened exactly as said Lies and manipulations. I was not kicked out. I willing disassociate myself from that religious organization. You can keep peddling your madness and insanities peddling about being kicked out ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
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