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Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Peterobiisathie(f): 9:26am On Jun 06 |
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by PointZerom: 9:26am On Jun 06 |
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by helinues: 9:28am On Jun 06 |
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by hegelian: 9:32am On Jun 06 |
helinues: this is what gives you joy.. Suffering of the people Tribal Hatred Ethnic Bigotry The three things above are what gives you erection.. but Helinues why are you so evil and wicked, why are you so full of hate that all you want is the destruction of your country ![]() omo your hatred is on another level.. Public enemy number 1 of nigeria 17 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AmiableMosquito: 9:35am On Jun 06 |
Lol....it will be an interesting thread. Let me grab a seat 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by mrvitalis(m): 9:38am On Jun 06 |
So zik was not even the one that made the decision, he only debated in favour of it? The final decision was in the hands of a Brit... Who had already made up his mind not to include succession before zik debated? If they can change national anthem they can change the Constitution this is not even a debate 18 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Armaggedon: 9:38am On Jun 06 |
Zik stood for regionalism and federalism with financial and legislative autonomy where the regions developed in their own pace. No contradictions. One of the most confusing figures in Nigeria's history was Awolowo. He claimed he wanted secession and zik rejected. But when the opportunity presented itself during Biafra, the same Awolowo made a complete U-turn and and started fighting for a unitary one Nigeria as championed by gowon. His attitude justified Zik's opinions about him. For those who claim his demand was in good faith, his demand was rediculous and he knew it. He was neither here no there. There is no sovereign state in the world that has secession in it's constitution. If he truly wanted his region to be alone he should have demanded a pre-independence referendum like southern Cameroon or pre-independence partitioning as in British India. Opting for a secession clause instead of pre-independence referendum clearly indicated lack of commitment to specific ideology from Awolowo. You can't officially keep one leg in the country and keeping one outside. A snake he was. 20 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by JAMO84: 9:43am On Jun 06 |
So as at the time Ojukwu was trying to remove Biafra from Nigeria, he was commiting treason and actually deserved to be shot dead at bar Beach. Azikwe made sure Nigeria is indivisible, but his children are crying all over social media today, telling ordinary citizens like me to let them go, as if I used rope to tie them. 83 Likes 11 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by JAMO84: 9:46am On Jun 06 |
mrvitalis:So which of your legislators has moved the motion or submitted a bill to the effect of changing the Constitution to let Biafra go? You blame everyone for your own misery except your leaders. You want Biafra but it's others that must help you get it, you can't do it yourself. 68 Likes 9 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Peterobiisathie(f): 9:49am On Jun 06 |
mrvitalis:you can not be Obidient and still be IPOB terrorists at the same time 71 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by smileyoo: 10:03am On Jun 06 |
Indeed Mr Azikiwe contributed in placing us in this bondage like contraption called Nigeria because of his fanatical yet unrealistic believe in Nigerian unity as a nationalist, but 6 decades counting, his vision of Nigerian unity is still a mirage, proving chief Awolowo vindicated as a realist and a visionary leader. even during the Biafra / Nigeria civil war, Mr Azikiwe was still sadly deluded by his personal conviction of the imaginary Nigeria unity, to the extent that he rigidly refused to lend any support to the Biafra struggle and the yearnings of our people, i wish he was still alive to see the precarious situation, that his illusion of imaginary national unity had placed upon the victimized citizens of Nigeria. Indeed Awolowo was the best president that Nigeria never had. 37 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by BlowYourMind: 10:05am On Jun 06 |
Can you imagine this archaic thinking of the most influential politician. 24 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by gidgiddy: 10:05am On Jun 06 |
This is another classic example of why the Nigerian, and indeed Africans, are backward The white man comes from Europe, uses superior firepower to overrun your ancestors, bamboozled them all into a British colonial project called "Nigeria" But long after the white man has gone back home, you are still killing your selves to preserve the country he created. You answer a name "Nigerian" that a white woman created in London as your national identity When someone like Ojukwu, an indigenous son of the soil, wants to create a country, you fight war, kill your selves in the millions, just to uphold a country created by the white man But there is nothing you as a black African will ever create that Will make the white man kill his white brother An enforced illegal colonial contraption that the white man shed the blood of your ancestors to create, is what you now shed the blood of your African brother to uphold. This is what you call treason and terrorism. Terrible 10 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by BlowYourMind: 10:10am On Jun 06 |
mrvitalis:If zik was wise and had foresight, he would have opposed the removal of secession, but he is blind to the future, he want to be premier in the south west. 55 Likes 5 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by ElSudani: 10:13am On Jun 06 |
Some people are blessed with almost a supernatural ability to see the future. I believe a secession clause would have made Nigeria a more just country. And three million lives could have been saved by avoiding a civil war. It is highly ironic that the people who are most vocal about secession today are Ibos. 23 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by seanfer(m): 10:21am On Jun 06 |
mrvitalis: Who opposed the inclusion of secession in our constitution? NNAMDI AZIKIWE. Without him opposing it, we won't be where we are today and the civil war pf 1967 would have been avoidable. 26 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by gidgiddy: 10:31am On Jun 06 |
smileyoo: Zik is like many Nigerians of today who see a disaster of a country that should be dissolved, but want it to last forever. Zik could never understand that his vision of a A great united Nigeria was simply not possible, the people are too different It was one disastrous vision Zik had, and he should have known better, that Nigeria would never work 3 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by ElSudani: 10:32am On Jun 06 |
seanfer: The problem with zik is similar to what we experience with Ibos today. They always want to go the opposite way on everything with Yoruba, whether it is in their interest or not is secondary. 44 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by seanfer(m): 10:35am On Jun 06 |
ElSudani: Inferiority complex, always want to claim superiority over others. And when things don't go their ways, they start claiming the victims. 32 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by gidgiddy: 10:36am On Jun 06 |
BlowYourMind: He was blind. But if you talk about putting the same secession clause in the constitution of Nigeria today, about 4 out of Nigeria's 6 geopolitical zones will be ready to fight war, Showing that they are no different to Zik 3 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by gidgiddy: 10:37am On Jun 06 |
ElSudani: It's one of the reasons both tribes have no business being in one country 7 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by BlowYourMind: 10:42am On Jun 06 |
gidgiddy:Nigeria will have being better apart than what it is now. 5 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by TimeManager(m): 10:44am On Jun 06 |
mrvitalis:Read the article very well or go get the full speech of Azikiwe against secession clause. Zik clearly argued that any attempt to divide the union by secession was treasonable. He argued that Nigeria is an indivisible and indisoluble union. Impliedly, Zik was appealing to the British monarchy to arrest and jail Awolowo for supporting the inclusion of secession clause. -Kiss the truth! 25 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by LifestyleTonite: 10:49am On Jun 06 |
Armaggedon: Your people's penchant to look away even when truth stares them in the face is legendary. Look at how you excused Zik from the blame. Zik ought to have argued in favour of secession like Awolowo, but he probably thought his people would succeed in lording over other tribes. Sadly, the opposite is the case today. If Zik had supported secession clause, that would have been two against one. His people won't be screaming Biafra or death today and begging to secede. So you see, Awolowo was a visioneer, he saw today from yesterday. It's sad that you now want Awolowo to commit a treasonable offense like Ojukwu after the latter's brother Zik supported the law that placed secessionist tendencies as treason. The moment you fail to acknowledge the truth, no matter how bitter, you will start to make horrible decisions. That's what is wrong with your people. 36 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AlexBells(m): 10:50am On Jun 06 |
Zik was a statesman. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by coolitempa(f): 10:51am On Jun 06 |
gidgiddy: Just two years ago when Obi came on the scene, you were dying to push for one Nigeria. 21 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by ElSudani: 10:51am On Jun 06 |
gidgiddy: Actually the secession clause could have worked the opposite way. It could have made Nigeria a more united and just country where each region will feel like an equal stakeholder in the country. The idea that one section can oppress the other could have been avoided because we will all understand that a situation like that can easily disintegrate the country. 20 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by ElSudani: 10:52am On Jun 06 |
AlexBells: Zik was not very smart. 25 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by TimeManager(m): 10:53am On Jun 06 |
gidgiddy:But Zik disagreed while Awo felt we shouldn't be forced together. Zik wanted the pan-Africanism, entrenched the Zikist movement with the ideology that God created the ibos to dominate Africa. And that's why the kids shouting Biafra today thought Nigeria started in 1966 or 2015. The Zikists are solely responsible for their self inflicted woes that blight them till date. -Kiss the truth! 27 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AlexBells(m): 10:54am On Jun 06 |
gidgiddy:The thing I don’t fancy about you is that you always talk without considering timing. In 1954, what value will Zik stand on to support secession when the bone of contention was independence. Zik was a great guy. Awo was being delusional. Yes today Nigeria seems chaotic but that wasn’t the case in 1954. In fact the North opposed independence but Awo was proposing secession which could have plunged the young country into chaos of course at the end it did, Zik has long been vindicated. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by TimeManager(m): 10:55am On Jun 06 |
1957 London constitutional conference, Nigerian representatives across party lines and regions were invited to have an input in the drafting of the independence constitution. Zik took it personally, beyond debate and conviction but calling on the british authority to arrest anyone who speaks for secession, he called it a treason and we all know what that means to ask that people be indicted for treason. It was a capital punishment. Zik was the architect of a dyfunctional foundation of the country. -Kiss the truth! 23 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AlexBells(m): 10:56am On Jun 06 |
ElSudani:You are not in position to decide that but I can guarantee nobody in your generation yet comes close to Zik in smartness. Same secession later plunged the country to 3 years of civil war and you think Zik wasn’t smart in avoiding that in the first place. |
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