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Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by safarifarms(m): 5:07pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:
Potential Impact on Beef Prices
Implementing large-scale ranching could significantly increase the cost of beef due to the high expenses associated with establishing and maintaining ranches.These would make Nigerian cows too expensive for purchase as cows from Niger and other neighboring countries practicing open grazing will be cheaper in the open market.

Suggested Practical Solutions
Designated Grazing Areas: Allocate specific areas for grazing to prevent clashes while allowing pastoralists to continue traditional herding methods.
Conflict Resolution Mechanisms: Establish local committees to mediate disputes between farmers and herders, promoting peaceful coexistence.
Cooperative Farming: Encourage farmers and herders to form cooperatives, sharing resources and knowledge to improve productivity and harmony.
Community-Based Animal Health Services: Provide mobile veterinary services to support herders, reducing the need for long migrations and potential conflicts.
These solutions aim to be cost-effective and fair to both cattle herders and farmers, ensuring sustainable practices and reducing conflicts.


The Southeast is allowed to ply their trade and open spare parts shop in katsina
The Southwest is holding Aso-rock Office in Abuja
The South-south is FCT Minister in Abuja
[b]Why cant the northern Fulani man feed his cow in the south ?

Lets be tolerant and restructure cattle grazing to accommodate everybody.[/b]

Ordinarily no one hates herders, if they do, it won't be just because they are herders or they attend to cows. The problem is that they cause too much trouble. They deliberately feed their cows on farmers crops, they attack farmers and often rape women they find in the bushes. You guys should not only be concerned about feeding your cows. The cows are not more important than the inhabitants of the south. If they were to just feed their cows on grasses without destruction of farms and harassment of people, I don't see why people will have problem with them.

I'm typing this as a farmer in the south who has had a little experience with these people. They used to bring their cows to feed on peoples crops in my farm area at night until they banned them from moving about with their cows at night.

As the herders are given so much priority that the past govt advised people to give up their farm lands instead of being killed by the herders and several efforts are being made by govt to setup ranches for them with govt. money, at least a little consideration should also be given to crop farmers to at least let them survive. Southerners have come to see the only solution as letting the cows remain in the north because all other efforts for co-existence in the past has not worked.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Mindlog: 5:08pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


I hope you learnt how to be rich from your schoolmate so that your own child doesn't tell poverty tales like this on nairaland in the future.
On a serious note misappropriation is a national pandemic in Nigeria.
However being wealthy is not a crime, we should differentiate the two.
I am Nigerian and i don't have any cattle. The forum is brainstorming for viable solutions not a forum for ethnic vilification or where poverty is publicized or celebrated.

I don't need to learn "how to be rich", my skillsets assures me of living comfortable in any part of world, I don't have to be a politician in Nigeria for my young ones to have a secured future, they are already living it,

Cow rearing is a personal business, even though I don't eat beef, other people's crop farms should not be subsidizing their costs of running their cattle rearing business,

If it is too expensive to ranch, they can stop the business as it is not charity.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by malali: 5:09pm On Jun 06, 2024
safarifarms:

Ordinarily no one hates herders, if they do, it won't be just because they are herders or they attend to cows. The problem is that they cause too much trouble. They deliberately feed their cows on farmers crops, they attack farmers and often rape women they find in the bushes. You guys should not only be concerned about feeding your cows. The cows are not more important than the inhabitants of the south. If they were to just feed their cows on grasses without destruction of farms and harassment of people, I don't see why people will have problem with them.

I'm typing this as a farmer in the south who has had a little experience with these people. They used to bring their cows to feed on peoples crops in my farm area at night until they banned them from moving about with their cows at night.

Thanks for your input ?
What do you think about feeding a cow in one spot instead of grazing ?
Will it affect the cost of beef ?
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by AskNgige2: 5:10pm On Jun 06, 2024
NSNO:
Anyone against this bill is an enemy of Nigeria. Of course the bill needs tinkering but the premise is sound.

SAY NO TO OPEN GRAZING
He said NO nooo 😂

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Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by DesireV: 5:12pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:
Removing the Beef subsidy

Potential Impact on Beef Prices
Implementing large-scale ranching could significantly increase the cost of beef due to the high expenses associated with establishing and maintaining ranches.These would make Nigerian cows too expensive for purchase as cows from Niger and other neighboring countries practicing open grazing will be cheaper in the open market.

Suggested Practical Solutions
Designated Grazing Areas: Allocate specific areas for grazing to prevent clashes while allowing pastoralists to continue traditional herding methods.
Conflict Resolution Mechanisms: Establish local committees to mediate disputes between farmers and herders, promoting peaceful coexistence.
Cooperative Farming: Encourage farmers and herders to form cooperatives, sharing resources and knowledge to improve productivity and harmony.
Community-Based Animal Health Services: Provide mobile veterinary services to support herders, reducing the need for long migrations and potential conflicts.
These solutions aim to be cost-effective and fair to both cattle herders and farmers, ensuring sustainable practices and reducing conflicts.


The Southeast is allowed to ply their trade and open spare parts shop in katsina
The Southwest is holding Aso-rock Office in Abuja
The South-south is FCT Minister in Abuja
Why cant the northern Fulani man feed his cow in the south ?
Lets be tolerant and restructure designated cattle grazing areas in every state to accommodate everybody.







As beautiful as this your write up would have been, the last part in black spoilt it.
The SE man running his shop in Katsina, is he paying rent or he just encroaches on any unoccupied land? Is he paying tax or not?
Comparing private businesses with occupation of Aso rock or FCT minister makes one think you copied the initial part of the write up from somewhere because, to accept that all of the write up emanated from the same brain is difficult.
Is anybody complaining about a Fulani herder who rents land for grazing in the South?
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Putinofrussia: 5:12pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


What about restructure grazing designated areas, away from farmlands ?
Do you have beef with beef ?
Be honest.
Nobody has beef with beef.
Hope you are very educated and you know that most global best practices of things are the safest and best.
Read up about other nations especially the advanced ones like USA,they have had problems with herders too but the almost perfect solution they eventually accepted is this ranching system you are against.
Dont you cringe when a life is lost unjustly the way your people kill farmers who have sweated day in day out on their farms just for cows to just destroy their sweat in an hour or so?
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by malali: 5:12pm On Jun 06, 2024
Mindlog:


I don't need to learn "how to be rich", my skillsets assures me of living comfortable in any part of world, I don't have to be a politician in Nigeria for my young ones to have a secured future, they are already living it,

Cow rearing is a personal business, even though I don't eat beef, other people's crop farms should not be subsidizing their costs of running their cattle rearing business,

If it is too expensive to ranch, they can stop the business as it is not charity.




You were impressed by $2500 accommodation.
I assumed you were financially challenged.
You make good points
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by bixton(m): 5:15pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


Thank sir you for your comment
Alcohol sale is religious,has nothing to do with the this conversation. In the USA, a lot of "dry counties" dont sell alcohol as well. (Educate yourself if you are not aware)
Ranching would come at prohibitive cost to the average Fulani man, especially in a country where even humans cannot feed adequately due to inflationary government policies.
No deception nor hypocrisy, I am saying Nigerians should be free for all Nigerians to live and practice their trade. Whether you sell drugs as a pharmacist,or spare parts or a Fulani herder or a politician.


There's no such thing as the average Fulani man. They can do such in a cooperative settings.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by safarifarms(m): 5:16pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


Thanks for your input ?
What do you think about feeding a cow in one spot instead of grazing ?
Will it affect the cost of beef ?
I'm not sure why it should affect the cost of beef. Perhaps you will say the initial cost of ranch setup would be high and limit the number of people who can start.

But let me also ask you, what do you think about the number of lives lost daily due to herders/farmers clashes in the South?
What do you think about the cost of crops as crops are constantly being destroyed by cows? Is the cost of crop production affected by destruction of farm crops?

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Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by malali: 5:17pm On Jun 06, 2024
Putinofrussia:

Nobody has beef with beef.
Hope you are very educated and you know that most global best practices of things are the safest and best.
Read up about other nations especially the advanced ones like USA,they have had problems with herders too but the almost perfect solution they eventually accepted is this ranching system you are against.
Dont you cringe when a life is lost unjustly the way your people kill farmers who have sweated day in day out on their farms just for cows to just destroy their sweat in an hour or so?

I am appalled and devastated when a life is lost,I am intellectually aware on worldwide farming practices.
I am not against ranching. I however see the removal of beef subsidy.
We clamored for oil subsidy removal, we clamored for floating the forex......where are we today.
Now people who have zero idea about raising beef are clamoring for beef subsidy removal.
I will be 100% honest we cannot afford ranching. Its capital intensive and the margins will be smaller
I still think structured designated grazing areas is the way to go.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Ameboperoo(m): 5:19pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


Lol, Ganduje is a politician...believe him at your risk.
Reason why cattle herders move southwards is because grass doesn't grow in the north during dry season
Ganduje was just looking for a way to milk the government treasury. If you had financed him to set up a ranch he will have pocketed billions of dollars.
I quote you so you can see this scenario.
I am an indigene of a middle belt state and a farmer but I have to run for my life from my own state after several years of destruction of my farm on my own family land and on rented land.
If you are being sent away from your state by "foreigners" because they have to do their own business, what does the constitution say about that? Please respond

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Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by malali: 5:21pm On Jun 06, 2024
safarifarms:

I'm not sure why it should affect the cost of beef. Perhaps you will say the initial cost of ranch setup would be high and limit the number of people who can start.

But let me also ask you, what do you think about the number of lives lost daily due to herders/farmers clashes in the South?
What do you think about the cost of crops as crops are constantly being destroyed by cows? Is the cost of crop production affected by destruction of farm crops?

Ranching i capital intensive,people are complaining of chicken feed talkess of cow feed. I thought you said you were a farmer. You dont know to feed a cow to market prices is expensive in a ranch ? Do you know, grass doesnt grow in the north in dry season ?
I am devastated with deaths from the herders causing trouble, however not all the herders are troublemakers.
I am suggesting structured designated grazing routes.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by malali: 5:24pm On Jun 06, 2024
Ameboperoo:

I quote you so you can see this scenario.
I am an indigene of a middle belt state and a farmer but I have to run for my life from my own state after several years of destruction of my farm on my own family land and on rented land.
If you are being sent away from your state by "foreigners" because they have to do their own business, what does the constitution say about that? Please respond

Thanks for your comment. I strongly condemn the behavior of this crazy Fulani herders.
I am proposing structured designated grazing areas away from farmlands.
Its going to be trickery but it will keep the price of beef stable.
If we only market ranched beef a lot of people will suffer protein malnutrition, especially the young and elderly population.

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Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Blue3k(m): 5:27pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


Our local breeds are more disease resistant
If you use $100 to produce $150 of beef
Compared to using $20 to produce $120 of beef and selling cheaper beef to Nigerians.
Which is better ?

Nobody asked you to change breeds of cattle. Lol the notion the herders are that profitable is hilarious. If you're making so much profit, then a ranch shouldn't hurt that much. It's one big upfront cost. If they are profitable like you're suggesting they shouldn't be hungry like you stressed to be earlier.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by swagana: 5:28pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:
Removing the Beef subsidy


The Southeast is allowed to ply their trade and open spare parts shop in katsina
The Southwest is holding Aso-rock Office in Abuja
The South-south is FCT Minister in Abuja
[b]Why cant the northern Fulani man feed his cow in the south ?

Lets be tolerant and restructure designated cattle grazing areas in every state to accommodate everybody.[/b]








Fulani herdsmen has been grazing their cows on people's farms and using this method of primitive cattle rearing method to commit all sorts of crimes against the people it must stop.The spare parts dealers rent shops and do their legit transaction within their shops not inside peoples homes.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by malali: 5:33pm On Jun 06, 2024
swagana:


Fulani herdsmen has been grazing their cows on people's farms and using this method of primitive cattle rearing method to commit all sorts of crimes against the people it must stop.The spare parts dealers rent shops and do their legit transaction within their shops not inside peoples homes.

Thats why i proposed restructured designated grazing routes....did you read my post completely ?
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by lastmessenger: 5:33pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


[b]There is something called conflict resolution.
If you junior brother kills your older brother during a fight
Will you kill your junior brother ?[/b]


seems you are a Fulani man?
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by swagana: 5:34pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


Thanks for your comment. I strongly condemn the behavior of this crazy Fulani herders.
I am proposing structured designated grazing areas away from farmlands.
Its going to be trickery but it will keep the price of beef stable.
If we only market ranched beef a lot of people will suffer protein malnutrition, especially the young and elderly population.

Forget about the price of beef let those who can afford it buy it.Fulani should ranch their cows period.Do you know how many farmers and farm land that are lost to Fulani primitive method of cow rearing every year and how much much wasted money wise ?
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by malali: 5:35pm On Jun 06, 2024
Blue3k:


Nobody asked you to change breeds of cattle. Lol the notion the herders are that profitable is hilarious. If you're making so much profit, then a ranch shouldn't hurt that much. It's one big upfront cost. If they are profitable like you're suggesting they shouldn't be hungry like you stressed to be earlier.

Feeding a cow for 2 years is not upfront cost ?
Do not trivialize the capital intensity.
I still think designated grazing routes away from farmlands are a more feasible option.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by swagana: 5:41pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


Thats why i proposed restructured designated grazing routes....did you read my post completely ?

Your proposal is not acceptable.The grazing route will encroach on people's properties and farmland.This is 21st century.Cow herders should buy land and build ranches like it is done around the world. Nobody is stopping them from doing business in any state but their business should be regulated by the government like every other business.

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Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by mamaafrik(m): 5:42pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


There are good fulani herders fyi, not all are bad.
Your solution is like saying, since unknown gunmen are from the southeast.
No igbo man should be allowed in Lagos !!
How do we know he is not an unknown gunman.
He will come to lagos under the guise of trading and kill people.


The Southeast is allowed to ply their trade and open spare parts shop in katsina
The Southwest is holding Aso-rock Office in Abuja
The South-south is FCT Minister in Abuja
Why cant the northern Fulani man feed his cow in the south ?
Lets be tolerant and restructure cattle grazing to accommodate everybody.
So because igbo are selling parts they should be allowed to turn criminal and maim your parents and rape your sisters??
How many times have you heard igbo or Yorubas killing, raping indigenes in far north??

How many times have they used their commercial activities to destroy others in the far north

How many fulanis can take same thing they are doing to others??

What the "good fulanis" are doing is what you are doing,covering evil up and looking away hypocritically.
You are not condemning the henious criminality of those killer brothers and you blame others to stereotyping them.
They have been given uncommon privileges to rear cattle with free land,free grass,free water and without even paying taxes to locals ,they sell those cattle and the milk to Southerner and not freely like they were given

Is that the same thing igbos and Yorubas do in the far North


NO,so stop comparing them unintelligently,your thinking is shallow and your are an hypocrite.


THEY WILL BE FLUSHED OUT AS THEY ARE CRIMINALS.

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Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by erico2k2(m): 5:50pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


Thanks for your comment. I strongly condemn the behavior of this crazy Fulani herders.
I am proposing structured designated grazing areas away from farmlands.
Its going to be trickery but it will keep the price of beef stable.
If we only market ranched beef a lot of people will suffer protein malnutrition, especially the young and elderly population.
WE have Bush meat and fish oh and chicken plus turkey.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Blue3k(m): 5:53pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


Feeding a cow for 2 years is not upfront cost ?
Do not trivialize the capital intensity.
I still think designated grazing routes away from farmlands are a more feasible option.

It's a recurring cost that would have to be done. You're not going to buy two years of food upfront 😒. Building the ranch, I'd the major upfront cost. Irrigation for the hayfields will be. If they don't care to do that, they will buy hay from a farmer who supplies them.

Herding is going away just like the cowboy cattle drives. Even if the federal government doesn't do this. States have already banned open grazing. If and when state police happen, their business model is dead.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Wrackcityoffici: 6:05pm On Jun 06, 2024
This is a very good law but at this time it would only make meat more expensive, increasing hardship.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by malali: 6:08pm On Jun 06, 2024
lastmessenger:
seems you are a Fulani man?

Not at all.
I am a Nigerian.
I am a hobby farmer.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Moneyyman: 6:14pm On Jun 06, 2024
Isn't this madness? In 2024 some still support open grazing? Madness!
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by JuanDeDios: 6:21pm On Jun 06, 2024
dragunov:


There are other less expensive sources of animal protein out there. It's not by force to eat beef.
There are no less expensive sources of meat than beef. Only more expensive ones. The real problem with private ranching, though, is that they will be pushed out of business by cheaper imported meat–and we'd have a new problem on our hands.

Don't get me wrong. I support the proposed law. I just don't think it can be implemented without robust government input/subsidies.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by EKOSuperior(m): 6:26pm On Jun 06, 2024
While you are for or against open grazing, please register your businesses. Even the hearders can contact us, we are here for you, imagine a name like Abdullahi Heard of Cow Nigeria Limited

Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Enskynelson(m): 6:42pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


I appreciate your points but if beef prices went up 4 times their current rates. Nigerians will be completely locked out of eating adequate protein.I also want a solution, but lets find a viable inexpensive solution akin to our own environment.
Telling every herder to ranch is like telling every Nigerian to buy electric car because petrol is now too expensive.
Human lives are much more important that any beef, don't you think? With the Agbado happening to us, when last an average Nigerian chop beef? Because of beef we no longer have beans, maize and many have died. Is the beef not coming with enough beef (yawa) already?
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Ategberoson(m): 6:53pm On Jun 06, 2024
Whether they support or not, anyone seen with cowa roaming on people's farm should be shot and their corpse should be thrown in a river while you use the cow as get together for their burial



You can't keep spoiling farming in southern Nigeria to monopolized food production in northern Nigeria. Southerners farmers aren't lazy to farm. End these fooolish homosapien overzealousness now
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Putinofrussia: 6:54pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


I am appalled and devastated when a life is lost,I am intellectually aware on worldwide farming practices.
I am not against ranching. I however see the removal of beef subsidy.
We clamored for oil subsidy removal, we clamored for floating the forex......where are we today.
Now people who have zero idea about raising beef are clamoring for beef subsidy removal.
I will be 100% honest we cannot afford ranching. Its capital intensive and the margins will be smaller
I still think structured designated grazing areas is the way to go.
There is nothing like beef subsidy and moreover nobody is borrowing money to pay for beef subsidy like the ones you mentioned grin
To be candid,the old system must be done away with even just for the sanctity of human lives.
Re: Lawmakers Move To Restrict Cattle Herders, Northern Senators Fume by Ikpunekenwa(m): 7:02pm On Jun 06, 2024
malali:


I am advocating for Grazing boundaries or restructured grazing.

If you people can't buy or lease land like others, then you people should Bleep off with your cows, we can import the cow meat, or source other proteins.

States said they don't want cows destroying their farms and you are here saying trash, why can't you guys do what other citizens are doing.

Anyway, I don't need to talk too Much.

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