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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 5:40pm On Jun 06 |
He could have stayed neutral and preoare for a possible failure of the Nigerian state to pull his people out. By encouraging Gowon to create 12 states, he ruined the regions forever. Yorubas are complaining of Igbos in SW. It shall be so until breakup ElSudani: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 5:41pm On Jun 06 |
DMerciful: You will never get that answer from those Unity beggar, their only strategy is to bring back the past, they will never accept to divide Nigeria 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 5:43pm On Jun 06 |
Kukutente23: Are you even making sense? why can't we correct that mistake now after 60 years of failed marriage? |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Judgementa1: 5:43pm On Jun 06 |
DMerciful: Have u forgotten all subsequent constitution were given to us by the military. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 5:44pm On Jun 06 |
So it was meant for threatening purposes? If he is afraid of the North, why go into a country with them? Was western Nigeria not bigger than Togo or Benin Republic? Mind you Zambia was Southern Rhodesia and Zimbabwe was Northern Rhodesia. They formed two separate countries. Kukutente23: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 5:45pm On Jun 06 |
Same way the military would have removed secession clause after abrogating the 1963 constitution in 1966! Judgementa1: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AlexBells(m): 5:48pm On Jun 06 |
Kukutente23:The justification was independence, North said they were not ready which could have jeopardized everything. Zik was also raised in the North and the exigencies are different from today |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 5:49pm On Jun 06 |
Wahabfuture:Who wants to correct it? Who is interested in doing that? What is the name of the person? You have dumped blaming Awo and now fishing for new excuses abi 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 5:51pm On Jun 06 |
DMerciful:Afraid? Lol. Why will Awo be afraid of the backwards north? He was wary and discerning. Your Zik that was not afraid how did it end? Going into Nigeria was not Awo, Zik or Bello's idea It was the British. The best bet was to find a way to get the best out of it Zambia and Zimbabwe were never one country. What are you talking about? Stop confusing yourself. 5 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by AlexBells(m): 5:52pm On Jun 06 |
confusedlady:Ideology is flexible, time is impacts everything. If your ideology is not subject to change and time then it can’t endure, time and change are unstable, a great politician is unstable |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 5:56pm On Jun 06 |
They were historically one country like Nigeria in 1914 Kukutente23:
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Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 5:56pm On Jun 06 |
AlexBells:Stop telling lies. North said they were not ready in 1953 not 1960. As at 1957, same Balewa pushed the motion for Nigeria's independence. Zik being raised in the North should have understood them better than even Awo. That Awo saw through the North and Zik did not shows how short-sighted Zik was. Both Balewa and Bello never believed in Nigeria. As a matter of fact, Balewa believed Nigeria was too complex. But they never pushed for breaking up or secession because they believed they could get a mugu from the south. That mugu turned out to be Zik!! 7 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Judgementa1: 5:56pm On Jun 06 |
DMerciful: Successions clause would have prevented millitary intervention in the first republic. Army came as a result of each region premier trying to outmanoeuvre each other which led to crisis in the western region. With successions in place it would have been easy for adaka boro to break away from Nigeria and form his own Niger delta country. Would have been easier for ojukwu to declare Biafra without any interference or aggression from the central govt. 4 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by confusedlady(f): 5:57pm On Jun 06 |
smileyoo: So why was he Ojukwus ambassador and special adviser at the beginning of the war? 1 Like |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Armaggedon: 5:58pm On Jun 06 |
WhizdomXX:of course. |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 5:59pm On Jun 06 |
DMerciful:Ok... so when were they one country? |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by ElSudani: 5:59pm On Jun 06 |
DMerciful: Who told you he wanted Nigeria to fail? Like I said earlier his argument for a secession clause was not intended to break the country apart. Rather it was intended to ensure a peaceful separation if it comes to that. You are asking him to participate in the complete opposite of what he intended. By the way, it was another Ibo man named Ironsi who finally killed Nigeria contrary to what was intended by the founding fathers. 4 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by confusedlady(f): 6:00pm On Jun 06 |
AlexBells: Oga, A great politician is STABLE and has an IDEOLOGY which is the basis of his politics. He may be flexible but it must be within his ideology..... does a communist/socialist become a capitalist??.....lol ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 6:01pm On Jun 06 |
Well, it came to that but he stayed on the vison of zik which is one indivisible Nigeria ElSudani: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 6:03pm On Jun 06 |
I provided a reference but you're still arguing. Do your own research. But thats not the point. You do not need secession clause to conduct a referendum to determine if Nigerians wanna be together especially since there is no unity currently Kukutente23: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 6:03pm On Jun 06 |
mrvitalis: Zik himself admitted he opposed it and also raced his objection the day and here you are, trying to twist the narrative. Why are you children of hate always mischievous ? 8 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 6:04pm On Jun 06 |
Nope, the army came due to massive corruption by the political elites. Judgementa1: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by DMerciful(m): 6:05pm On Jun 06 |
Without the coup, there would be no Ojukwu or Boro so your argument doesn't hold Judgementa1: |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 6:06pm On Jun 06 |
Kukutente23: Do you mean we must continue with the failed marriage? anyway I'm not the kind of person who dwell in the past, unity beggar i hate being called a Nigerian, hope you get me now, |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by ElSudani: 6:06pm On Jun 06 |
DMerciful: I don't even think you understand this at all. The British allows for a referendum in case any part wants to go its separate way. This is what Awo was asking for. What Zik and the north agreed to is to make secession treasonable. If you are still confused at this point then I'm sorry. Any time you ask for Biafra you are basically asking to be sent to prison or shot. 6 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by BlakKluKluxKlan(m): 6:08pm On Jun 06 |
An old, useless fool for nothing who lacked foresight. His Ignorant and stupid stand led to the death of millions of people. 5 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 6:09pm On Jun 06 |
DMerciful:1. Read carefully your reference. It did not say both regions were one country. The owners named the Upper part of River Zambezi northern Rhodesia and the lower part Southern Rhodesia. Both were never one country. They only used the river as reference. Just like Northern Nigeria and Southern Nigeria were two different countries before amalgamation. They were named for River Niger but were not one country before amalgamation. Hope you get it now? 2. Under what laws will that referendum come when the constitution says "We the people..... are one indivisible and indisoluble entity called Nigeria"? That statement alone rules out any legitimate quest for secession. Do you get it? The only way you can get a secession now is through a constitutional amendment. But I ask again. Who wants that? 4 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 6:10pm On Jun 06 |
BlakKluKluxKlan: Gibberish Staled propaganda, lover of one Nigeria look at what you have done to the Country, arguing with most of you guys is waste of time, why do you guys find it difficult to have your own country without the Igbos? |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by T9ksy(m): 6:12pm On Jun 06 |
ElSudani: Omo, its not rocket science, na? Zik has always believed in the superiority of his group and their eventual domination of the new country. The sardunna on the other hand has made it clear that he will not participate in a union where his people would definitely be on the lower scale of SES- social economic status. He therefore asked for the ultimate power in the country else he will exit the union with his people. Obviously, zik needed a fake One Nigeria to actualise his group's domination dream so he acquised to the sardunna 's condition with the min d that once Nigeria is alive and kicking, he and his "smart" group will soon outsmart the uneducated north and snatch power from under their noses. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by ElSudani: 6:15pm On Jun 06 |
T9ksy: You are probably right, that decision is baffling. 2 Likes |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Wahabfuture: 6:15pm On Jun 06 |
BlakKluKluxKlan: You must be mistaking him for Awolowo who killed himself with Rat Poison called Otapiapia and don't forget he's greater than your entire region and ancestors both live and dead's |
Re: Flashback: Why I Opposed Awolowo On Secession - Zik by Kukutente23: 6:15pm On Jun 06 |
Wahabfuture:You're just one person. Except you have the powers, you can't make the change you want. Calling me unity beggar might make you feel better and raise your shoulder in empty feeling of superior individualism but fact remains you are not in a position to do anything about it and the critical stakeholders from the East don't share your sentiments. No senator from the East has ever raised the question of our nationhood not when the East had the Senate presidency for 8 years, or the deputy Senate presidency for 8 years, or the deputy speakership now. So if you're looking for unity beggars, look no further than your political leaders!! 7 Likes |
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