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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Maturedhustler: 3:02am On Jun 17
Good morning my people,

I need urgent confirmation if I can travel by air from Nigeria to London and within UK (London-Glasgow and back) with passport having less than 5 months validity.

My travel agency just informed me but not sure if this is correct. I have flight booked already and may just need to urgently cancelled this morning if I can’t use the passport.

Thanks for your timely support.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wonlasewonimi: 4:53am On Jun 17
Zahra29:


No you won't be affected if you were on the health and care visa route before the rule change. You are still able to add your dependants if you switch sponsor and you are not restricted to the NHS.

Hey Zahra,

Let me rephrase the question. What if someone is on graduate visa and currently working in care without sponsorship , can he apply for COS with family already here in the
UK or the family, as the dependants, would have to go back to naija as he is the main applicant?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wowdiva: 5:04am On Jun 17
missjekyll:


Absolutely no penalty except for perpetuating a kakistocracy.
Voting is not compulsory in the UK.
Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by heroshark(m): 6:05am On Jun 17
wonlasewonimi:


Hey Zahra,

Let me rephrase the question. What if someone is on graduate visa and currently working in care without sponsorship , can he apply for COS with family already here in the
UK or the family, as the dependants, would have to go back to naija as he is the main applicant?


You are still not being clear enough.

You don't need you family to apply for COS.

If you are already on a Graduate visa, and you get offered a Job in Care with COS, you can only apply with your family if you employer is NHS. If not your family cannot join you as dependents.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wonlasewonimi: 9:44am On Jun 17
heroshark:



You are still not being clear enough.

You don't need you family to apply for COS.

If you are already on a Graduate visa, and you get offered a Job in Care with COS, you can only apply with your family if you employer is NHS. If not your family cannot join you as dependents.

Ok let me try and clarify it.

The main applicant is currently working as a carer now using graduate visa. He is in the country with his family. He now plans to acquire COS via his non NHS employer. My question is what happens to his dependants that have been here with him for the past 3 years considering they now only give the main applicant?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:11am On Jun 17
wonlasewonimi:


Hey Zahra,

Let me rephrase the question. What if someone is on graduate visa and currently working in care without sponsorship , can he apply for COS with family already here in the
UK or the family, as the dependants, would have to go back to naija as he is the main applicant?

Hiya,

As he is working in care but isn't already on the health and care visa route, he would be subject to the new rules when he applies for his work visa. He or his spouse would need to target the exempt health care occupation codes to be able to add their dependants on, otherwise they would cease to have valid leave to remain after his graduate visa expires.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by danny34(m): 10:20am On Jun 17
Zahra29:


Hiya,

As he is working in care but isn't already on the health and care visa route, he would be subject to the new rules when he applies for his work visa. He or his spouse would need to target the exempt health care occupation codes to be able to add their dependants on, otherwise they would cease to have valid leave to remain after his graduate visa expires.


Ok. Let me ask, what salary threshold can sponsor this person with at least 1 dependent for a non NHS role in light of the new rule?

This matter tie gele o.... Na to find PhD enter Australia o!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:27am On Jun 17
kwakudtraveller:


And this is the exact reason why a lot of immigrants assume that Brits do not want to work. They are so used to seeing their co-foreigners at these low-level jobs that they’ve assumed that the Brits are lazy and do not want to work or that Brits aren’t doctors, etc. Whereas the Brits are the ones in the top positions, they also own the hospitals or Care homes that hire these Brown doctors or carers, but they always ensure that they prioritize putting in their countrymen as managers, etc. 

Nigerians also see Brits as lazy for leaving work on time or not doing more than their job description. The Brits value work-life balance, whereas Nigerians overvalue working long hours. Like this comment, Nigerians like to dey boast about overworking themselves as if they must suffer before they enjoy.

💯

What is happening - I find myself agreeing with you more often these days 🙈😂

Your comment is spot on. The reality is that the struggles and priorities of a recent immigrant are in most cases very different to that of a Brit, and this directs the type of jobs they do.

Sure, a number of Brits are work-shy, benefit scroungers etc. However many are just strategic about how and where they work. For example, it makes more financial sense for some to work part time than to pay for a child minder, after school club etc that ends up costing more than the extra hours worked. Others don't do overtime because the additional income tax erodes much of the gains made, so they instead prioritise spending time home with their family. Many won't work in care, warehouses etc because they see these jobs are too taxing especially when they can earn similar or more in a "sit down and drink lots of tea" type of job.
It's not always about how hard you work, but how well/smart.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 10:33am On Jun 17
danny34:



Ok. Let me ask, what salary threshold can sponsor this person with at least 1 dependent for a non NHS role in light of the new rule?

This matter tie gele o.... Na to find PhD enter Australia o!

For a non clinical role, minimum £38,700 except on a new entrant visa which allows you 70% off the salary threshold.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by danny34(m): 10:42am On Jun 17
Zahra29:


For a non clinical role, minimum £38,700 except on a new entrant visa which allows you 70% off the salary threshold.

Thanks @Zahra29 I still seek some clarification.

All of us cannot work for NHS. Assuming it's just a care role, and I am transitioning from Student Visa to Skilled work visa, so I am a new entrant to the skilled work visa, 70% of 38,700 is enough to add a dependant.

This is what you are saying right?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wonlasewonimi: 10:52am On Jun 17
Zahra29:


Hiya,

As he is working in care but isn't already on the health and care visa route, he would be subject to the new rules when he applies for his work visa. He or his spouse would need to target the exempt health care occupation codes to be able to add their dependants on, otherwise they would cease to have valid leave to remain after his graduate visa expires.

Kindly expatiate on the emboldened. Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by heroshark(m): 10:56am On Jun 17
wonlasewonimi:


Ok let me try and clarify it.

The main applicant is currently working as a carer now using graduate visa. He is in the country with his family. He now plans to acquire COS via his non NHS employer. My question is what happens to his dependants that have been here with him for the past 3 years considering they now only give the main applicant?

His wife will need to get an employer to sponsor her too, preferably in a non- care sector or with NHS if in care so she can be able to add their kids on her visa. Or they will have to move back to Nigeria
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 11:51am On Jun 17
I have always found it interesting how the headline of a story can drive the narrative even if its thesane facts brung reported on. This is even more obvious in this election season.

Prime example are these two below by The Telegraph and The Guardian.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wonlasewonimi: 12:11pm On Jun 17
heroshark:


His wife will need to get an employer to sponsor her too, preferably in a non- care sector or with NHS if in care so she can be able to add their kids on her visa. Or they will have to move back to Nigeria

Oh shoot... there's no waiver for those currently in the country?

Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 12:38pm On Jun 17
kwakudtraveller:


And this is the exact reason why a lot of immigrants assume that Brits do not want to work. They are so used to seeing their co-foreigners at these low-level jobs that they’ve assumed that the Brits are lazy and do not want to work or that Brits aren’t doctors, etc. Whereas the Brits are the ones in the top positions, they also own the hospitals or Care homes that hire these Brown doctors or carers, but they always ensure that they prioritize putting in their countrymen as managers, etc. 

Nigerians also see Brits as lazy for leaving work on time or not doing more than their job description. The Brits value work-life balance, whereas Nigerians overvalue working long hours. Like this comment, Nigerians like to dey boast about overworking themselves as if they must suffer before they enjoy.

Generalisations are almost always wrong. No great nation is built without hardwork.

You'd need to widen your horizon so as not to box yourself into a corner. While some immigrants who arrived in the 60s - 80s took on such narratives, others pushed boundaries and produced the likes of Rishi and Kemi.
Yes there are barriers but if you want to get to the top and start 'employing' others, you need to put in the hard work and realise that somethings take time.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by kwakudtraveller(m): 12:49pm On Jun 17
Zahra29:


💯

What is happening - I find myself agreeing with you more often these days 🙈😂

Your comment is spot on. The reality is that the struggles and priorities of a recent immigrant are in most cases very different to that of a Brit, and this directs the type of jobs they do.

Sure, a number of Brits are work-shy, benefit scroungers etc. However many are just strategic about how and where they work. For example, it makes more financial sense for some to work part time than to pay for a child minder, after school club etc that ends up costing more than the extra hours worked. Others don't do overtime because the additional income tax erodes much of the gains made, so they instead prioritise spending time home with their family. Many won't work in care, warehouses etc because they see these jobs are too taxing especially when they can earn similar or more in a "sit down and drink lots of tea" type of job.
It's not always about how hard you work, but how well/smart.
You know what they say about great minds 😉

Correct @ working smarter instead of harder.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:02pm On Jun 17
wonlasewonimi:


Kindly expatiate on the emboldened. Thanks

Only occupation codes 6135 and 6136 are banned from bringing dependants, other codes are exempt from the restriction.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by kwakudtraveller(m): 1:02pm On Jun 17
jedisco:


Generalisations are almost always wrong. No great nation is built without hardwork.

You'd need to widen your horizon so as not to box yourself into a corner. While some immigrants who arrived in the 60s - 80s took on such narratives, others pushed boundaries and produced the likes of Rishi and Kemi.
Yes there are barriers but if you want to get to the top and start 'employing' others, you need to put in the hard work and realise that somethings take time.

No one is dismissing the value of hard work, sir. There's a distinction between working hard and overworking oneself, and then assuming that others who don't push themselves beyond their pay grade are lazy or unwilling to work. Given your level of intellect, I believe you should grasp the core of this conversation.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:03pm On Jun 17
wonlasewonimi:


Oh shoot... there's no waiver for those currently in the country?

Thanks

The waiver is for those already on the health and care visa, or who applied before 11 March

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 1:07pm On Jun 17
danny34:


Thanks @Zahra29 I still seek some clarification.

All of us cannot work for NHS. Assuming it's just a care role, and I am transitioning from Student Visa to Skilled work visa, so I am a new entrant to the skilled work visa, 70% of 38,700 is enough to add a dependant.

This is what you are saying right?

Yes you can add dependants on the new entrant skilled worker visa.

The new entrant visa provides a 30% discount on the occupation-specific threshold and a 20% discount on the general salary threshold (£38,700) - whichever is higher.

Note that the visa can only be issued for a maximum duration of 4 years, which includes any time spent on the graduate visa or T2 visa.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 2:06pm On Jun 17
kwakudtraveller:


No one is dismissing the value of hard work, sir. There's a distinction between working hard and overworking oneself, and then assuming that others who don't push themselves beyond their pay grade are lazy or unwilling to work. Given your level of intellect, I believe you should grasp the core of this conversation.

I might have sounded 'spiky', but then, where do you draw the line?
I have met Brits and immigrants who many would equally consider 'hardworking' and also many who'd be considered 'lazy'. These are all anecdotal statements full of stereotypes. The bottomline is that the country needs certain skills and if those cannot be normally met locally, then something would need to give.

I have met a lot of people with little who live happier lives than those with much more. I met someone recently who wondered why I don't plan holidays every 2-3months to certain destinations. I said, it's simple- it does not interest me. I clump my major holiday into 4- 6 wks taken once or split 1-2 x a year and I many times travel to Nigeria. When I'm back, I work pretty hard cos I aim to retire early and hope to enjoy the process. Does that mean I chastise my colleagues who want to work till retirement as not wanting to enjoy life?

In summary, while the theoritical expouse of a good balance is enviable, there is no universal rule to what constitutes good work-life balance.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Thegamingorca(m): 4:40pm On Jun 17
kumbhuru:


Thank you. Don't be angry o. What's tlsconnect and vsfglobal?
I'm just trying not to make mistakes



grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by directonpc(m): 4:45pm On Jun 17
Thegamingorca:




grin

Lol 🤣. I been don talk am say this guy no get passport. Him just dey use himself catch cruise.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Thegamingorca(m): 5:59pm On Jun 17
directonpc:


Lol 🤣. I been don talk am say this guy no get passport. Him just dey use himself catch cruise.



Nah big fool he be
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Born2conquer: 6:22pm On Jun 17
I HOPE I WILL GET A RESPONSE.

Abeg, where I fit get Zobo leaves in the UK? I started working Night shifts in the UK and it has been very hard for me to sleep during the day.

I barely get 2hrs of sleep daily. I believe drinking Zobo will help

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 6:44pm On Jun 17
LAST CHANCE TO REGISTER TO PUNISH THE TORIES.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by kumbhuru: 6:52pm On Jun 17
Thegamingorca:




grin
You people are so dumb.
I used tlscontact as I was redirected there after paying my visa fees. So what's the laughter for? There's always a first time. Toxic Nigerians
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Thegamingorca(m): 7:09pm On Jun 17
hyzich:


lol, thought we are haters and I thought our mental health nurse is perfect and knows all
grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 8:26pm On Jun 17
Born2conquer:
I HOPE I WILL GET A RESPONSE.

Abeg, where I fit get Zobo leaves in the UK? I started working Night shifts in the UK and it has been very hard for me to sleep during the day.

I barely get 2hrs of sleep daily. I believe drinking Zobo will help

Search for Hibiscus tea - loose leaf options (dried leaves without bags) are also available.

Never induced sleep in me though. Perhaps I never took note.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 9:42pm On Jun 17
Born2conquer:
I HOPE I WILL GET A RESPONSE.

Abeg, where I fit get Zobo leaves in the UK? I started working Night shifts in the UK and it has been very hard for me to sleep during the day.

I barely get 2hrs of sleep daily. I believe drinking Zobo will help

jedisco:


Search for Hibiscus tea - loose leaf options (dried leaves without bags) are also available.

Never induced sleep in me though. Perhaps I never took note.

To add, always available in Asian stores

Also available on Amazon or eBay, whichever one suits you

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 10:13pm On Jun 17
Born2conquer:
I HOPE I WILL GET A RESPONSE.

Abeg, where I fit get Zobo leaves in the UK? I started working Night shifts in the UK and it has been very hard for me to sleep during the day.

I barely get 2hrs of sleep daily. I believe drinking Zobo will help


What you need to do is simple, reorientate your mindset, tune your sleep regime..... Your mind needs to now understand that your day is your night, and your night, your day ........

Get home from work, have a shower, light breakfast, turn of all technology, go under your duvet..... Don't sleep too early, start shutting down from 11am (set your alarm too) .......😜😂

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 11:10pm On Jun 17
Lexusgs430:
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What you need to do is simple, reorientate your mindset, tune your sleep regime..... Your mind needs to now understand that your day is your night, and your night, your day ........

Get home from work, have a shower, light breakfast, turn of all technology, go under your duvet..... Don't sleep too early, start shutting down from 11am (set your alarm too) .......😜😂

Turn off all technology is the KEY here!

By the way, Baba Lexus, my IPTV just slow anyhow. Which countries do I really need? Is UK and Africa okay. I said Africa because all mine have is DStv... Or is there any other African cable captured on ur IPTV provider?

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