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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 4:23pm On Jun 22 |
Spy360:Gbam! That's the point o. Jo.de.ra said something about having strong and reliable bench for next season. I don't see how promoting academy players who are untested will help us achieve this. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 4:31pm On Jun 22 |
Tomas Eisfield Dan Crowley Gideon Zelalem Fran Merida Semi Ajayi Eberechi Eze Harry Kane Tim Akinola (we're playing Arteta and Flamini at DM and this guy was with he U23) Malen (now in Dortmund) Afobe Nathan Tella (Leverkusen) Ozyakup Yunus Musa Ismail Bennacer These are some of the talents we have let go in the past. Heaven no fall. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 4:33pm On Jun 22 |
Jodera:You don finish work Honourable. This is why Messi is an alien. Tactic o, fitness o, gym o... nothing concern Baba with all these things. ![]() ![]() Ronaldo is really good in that aspect. I like how he is building his young boy. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 4:52pm On Jun 22 |
Jodera:How does that nullify that not all people are built for sports? Have you seen thin bones before? I mean really thin bones and muscles 😂 like that of Sylvester in my area? Lol 😂 Bros, no nutrition go save Silve if those bones break. Lol 🤣 |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:00pm On Jun 22 |
mostob:The likes of Nelson, Trossard, Kiwior, etc needed playing time. Others like ESR, Partey, Jesus that got injured and recovered needed playing time to gain full fitness. The team itself needed more minutes to blend with each other. There was no way Arteta was going to leave all these for academy players that don't want to wait for their time. Very soon now after the Euros, clubs will begin preseason training and friendlies. That's a good time to prove to the manager that he can be a good backup. Forget some of these academy players know that they can't challenge the senior boys and so may want to leave. If they believe in themselves let them stay and convince the coach. No matter how stubborn you think the Coach is, one day he will need you and call you to warm up. That's how Trossard started seeing games ahead of Martinelli and Kiwior ahead of Zinchenko etc. Even Deschamps had no choice but to invite Saliba even if it means playing him out of his usual position. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:01pm On Jun 22 |
mostob:That's a proof that some people are built for sports and some are not. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 5:02pm On Jun 22 |
mostob:The bolded are surprising to me. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 5:26pm On Jun 22 |
Spy360:Oh...you didn't know they played for Arsenal? They were released sha |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 5:30pm On Jun 22 |
Spy360:Dubbery and Ethan were regularly training with the senior team this past season. Duberry was attached to Saka and Ethan was attached to Odegaard. Reason why it seemed Ethan and Ode played similarly when the former came as sub against WestHam. That should convey some intent right? Dubbery did the right thing by moving on. I wish him well in his career. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 5:56pm On Jun 22 |
mostob:100% spot on. The koko is for the first team and squad depth to be strong and lemme win major trophies. That's the most important thing and that's what arsenal and Arteta would be judged on. Simples!! 3 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:02pm On Jun 22 |
Spy360:Lmaoo... I don't know who your Sylvester is but one thing is certain, if the guy have talent like Messi, all those bones and his body mass will be worked on ![]() ![]() ![]() Do you know how many players who were really thin but have bulked up just because of their talent. Let's take F.Viera for example. You think if arsenal wants to bulk him up they won't? Do you see Yamal when he started and Yamal this Euros? Omorr, Forget, you deh underestimate science and nutrition in sports ![]() ![]() |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:04pm On Jun 22 |
mostob:Swearss.. There's a reason people say Messi no done from this planet. All the things wey him dey do they otherworldly. ![]() ![]() You go too Jones if you carry am as your football model as a young footballer ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 6:08pm On Jun 22 |
mostob:I never knew Tella and Ajayi was arsenal academy Sha For all of them, they person wey I hear him hype wella, he was dubbed the next fabregas. Gideon Zelalem. Before I close eye open am, I shock say him don dey USA league ![]() ![]() Omorr, football no easy sha. All these footballer wey make am(esp from Africa) suppose deh thank God everyday. 2 Likes |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 6:50pm On Jun 22 |
In jurgen klopp's years at Liverpool how many young stars did he successfully integrated into the first team in his first few seasons aside from TAA that made it in 2018?. All of a sudden we should crucify Arteta for dubbery being scared of fighting for his spot. That nigga knew it won't be easy and he backed off without a fight, call it cowardice but it's his personal decision which he thinks is right. The thing is, if the club management consider youth graduates integration into the first team as this stage, there's no how they will let Arteta breathe well with the way everything is going, but I guess they know what they want, they know we need to have a stable structure first before using these kids. Last season both Liverpool and Man City made use of youths because the structure is already there and can't be shaken. We dey fear to play Nelson and Viera but na dumebe and Nwachukwu we go give minutes. 😂 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 6:53pm On Jun 22 |
Spy360:I no follow cry about him, I know those who cried and crude ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 6:59pm On Jun 22 |
Jodera:I'm sure more youths will see game time this season and even them knows this. Dubbery thought he's prime enough to break into the first team without going through loan spells, if only he knows the number of loans ESR went out on and Nketiah too. All of them just wan be like Saka who dived in direct forgetting that like Kobi Manoo, Saka was a case of when the "desirable is not available", and then they went on to surprise the whole world and remained "available". 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by mostob(m): 9:30pm On Jun 22 |
Jodera:Zelalem struggled with injury sha... I don't know how he managed to end up in US. Another one I like then was Merida. We got him from Barca but he didn't live up to expectations. See eh, we had exciting talents in the academy then. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:01pm On Jun 22 |
germaphobe:True... The best time for any young player to break into a team is when the so-called team is really struggling. But once a team is settled, e go hard for any academy youngster to break inside cos most coaches would be skeptical about their experience. Anyways, When Arteta starts winning that major trophies and this pressure is off his back, then I'm certain we'll see all the youngsters we want 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:05pm On Jun 22 |
germaphobe: Lol... You know I typed this exact same thing to a Mos.tob in one of my replies to him this evening. Like I literally typed almost everything you said here only to delete it at the last seconds because I felt it was too long (another epistles) hence I decided to type another one and make it short This is really funny and surprising ![]() ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:12pm On Jun 22 |
mostob:Lol, yeah. Fran Merida. The first time I saw him was when he missed his penalty during the finals against Nigeria in the u-17 wc in which we won 3-0 on penalties. My elder brother told me he's from arsenal academy but unfortunately that's the first and last time I saw him. We get talents wey dey make waves then Sha. Now e be like say na just a few handful deh our academy. 1 Like |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by BlueRayDick: 10:23pm On Jun 22 |
My own two cents is : As una Dey drag Arteta for allowing una favorites academy graduates leave , make una Dey drag Edu the DoF join. I mean y’all agree Saka needs a deputy and I’ve been seeing a whole lot of names being suggested not Nelson and not academy graduates . So let’s say Edu grants ur heart desires and signs one of the suggested deputy for Saka and we still have Viera on our books ; where does that leave ur prized academy prospects ? Abi Arteta will sub Saka off for his newly signed deputy in the 70th minute, then sub that deputy off for Dubbery in the 84th minute ? In this past season Arsenal had players like Smith-Rowe , Viera , Nelson, Nketiah , Elneny , Cedric etc who didn’t command starting shirt in UCL and EPL matches . It was only normal they get FA and Carabao Cup appearances . I’m sure if Arteta had fielded an academy graduate line-up and we lost out in those cup matches we will all call for Arteta’s head for taking us back to Wenger’s last days at Arsenal . I do not have any emotional attachment to any academy graduate. If the coach who trains with the player weekly feels an academy player can do better than a senior player in the team; I will support him 💯 and if he feels otherwise , he has my support . I won’t support the club with the intention of criticizing every move of the coach when he has not committed seppuku 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 11:29pm On Jun 22 |
BlueRayDick:Baba I tire!!!. Na Arsenal fans we all be, no be Arteta fans, we all want our club to be successful so I don't understand how every action of Arteta should be turned into war, like the negativity and anger can be felt from every single comment made to bring down his image, and it makes me wonder if it's herd mentality or inability to look pass the hate for him. And the indirect attacks on some person's here is funny to me. Anyways what do I know, I'm just a stoner who loves football because it's fun and a game of love. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by germaphobe(m): 11:31pm On Jun 22 |
Jodera: ![]() ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 7:28am On Jun 23 |
Jodera:This here is one of the things he needs to consider when he just decides to send those boys on loan and buy someone that’s not good or at par in performance with the boys sent in loan.. Moreover, If Dubbery is well coached and used as a squad player under Saka tutelage cause dude plays like Saka, then we might be having another Saka in our hands. I just hope He wins a major Trophy in this coming season cause if he doesn’t, the way fans will come at him ehn and they’ll remember this our Academy ish to put the nail on the coffin |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Ijustwantto: 9:38am On Jun 23 |
No be say messi too no dey train or gym. Maybe because he no dey too post am. He is merciless messi anyways ![]() Jodera: 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:18am On Jun 23 |
Shegzdave:Yeah.. I understand your view but I think the pressure is on Arteta now to win Major trophies and one thing with youngsters is that they need patience and time to be nurtured, something I see Arteta can't give them now. Anyways Sha, wishing duberry all the best. I just hope we win Something great this coming season cos that's the Koko |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Jodera: 10:21am On Jun 23 |
Ijustwantto:Lol... I never implied Messi don't train or Gym. I'm saying he's not much of a hardworker in training and most times just do the basics yet when him come pitch, him go finish everybody. Another person na hazard, but unlike Messi it caught up with him during his time with Madrid. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Shegzdave: 10:32am On Jun 23 |
Jodera:I also wish him the best of Luck cause he needs it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:05pm On Jun 23 |
Jodera:You dey compare 16yo Yamal that is still growing? Bros, if there was a way to bulk up Vieira to become like Adama Traore e for don happen since. What I am saying is that nutrition and exercise can add 10-20kg max. If you are 60kg it will take you to 80max with serious effort o. To play football at top level you have to be about 100kg. I am a science man myself. I live in a lab. So I cannot underestimate science. |
Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by IZUKWU(m): 6:07pm On Jun 23 |
Is he the striker ,we are going for now
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Re: Arsenal Fans Thread: Finally Reborn! The Red & White Army: FA CUP Champions 2020 by Spy360(m): 6:10pm On Jun 23 |
mostob:For me Duberry is foolish to leave. I mean there is a big hole in the team (a backup for Saka) that has not been filled and the club may be considering him and yet he wants to leave. Mumu. Where will he go self? Highest he will join Forrest and after two seasons max they will be relegated. Saka that they are envying had to start at left back. Arsenal that can afford a 50m backup will not miss him at all. |
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