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Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 7:10am On Jun 28
Qasim6:


Q9:32. They wish to extinguish Allah’s light with their mouths, but Allah will only allow His light to be perfected, even to the dismay of the disbelievers.

There is nothing you can do about Islam, y'all been wailing since the days of Abu Jahl, your forefather in Kufr. You will just keep on wailing and wailing and wailing till Yawm al-Qiyamah the day of your grand wailing.

When are you going to learn it is a futile effort trying to bring Islam down?
If Islam is the Light, why is it based on LIES?

Why is it called an Abrahamic religion when there is no connection with Abraham?

Why will Allah first allow you to spend time in Hell before removing you?

Why would Allah use Christians and Jews as your ransom rather than Atheists and Idolaters?

What is the Light of Islam when no Muslim can guarantee to enter paradise?

Why do you Muslims hate the Truth this much?
Even according to you Muslims, 90% of your hadiths are fabricated. Your scholars cannot even agree on basic doctrines all because of lies

Knowing about the characters: Is it possible that Mohammed or Jesus be the BEST example for mankind?
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 7:17am On Jun 28
FxMasterz:


It's a spirit. So, you can expect them to defend anything Islam even against the well-being of their own souls.

How can any sane man be comfortable with a god that promises to cast him to hell and then later remove him after an unspecified length of time?

Is fire palatable even for 5 seconds?
Indeed Jesus said it all:
Humans prefer DARKNESS to LIGHT because of the works of their hands.


Thank God for the gift of the Internet: all the hidden truths about Islam are getting broadcast by Muslims themselves.

Unfortunately, the spiritual deception and chains of satan over their hearts and soul is strong.
We pray for God's mercy for Muslims for freedom!

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Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by Qasim6(m): 7:58am On Jun 28
TenQ:

If Islam is the Light, why is it based on LIES?

Why is it called an Abrahamic religion when there is no connection with Abraham?

Abraham pray to God in Genesis 17:18 for Ishmael to live before God and God promise Ishmael a great nation

Is God promise of a great nation going to be Idolatry pagan nation?

Where is the great nation God promise Ishmael in Genesis 17:20?

TenQ:

Why will Allah first allow you to spend time in Hell before removing you?

Why would Allah use Christians and Jews as your ransom rather than Atheists and Idolaters?

What is the Light of Islam when no Muslim can guarantee to enter paradise?

Keep on wailing bro, you go wail tire!

TenQ:

Why do you Muslims hate the Truth this much?
Even according to you Muslims, 90% of your hadiths are fabricated. Your scholars cannot even agree on basic doctrines all because of lies

Knowing about the characters: Is it possible that Mohammed or Jesus be the BEST example for mankind?

Seems you are mistaken
This is our 5 basic doctrines
1 Profession of Faith (shahada). The belief that "There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the Messenger of God"
2 Prayer (salat)
3 Alms (zakat)
5 Fasting (sawm)
6 Pilgrimage (hajj)
Councils were not held, we did not take a vote for those doctrines

Over 300 years after Jesus left, they were still holding councils on the nature of Jesus, they even took a vote on the nature of Jesus; and they waited another 56 years to perfect your doctrine of trinity by adding the spooky ghost to the mix.

Stop throwing stones at people living in brick house while you are living in an open shelter.
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by FxMasterz: 8:17am On Jun 28
TenQ:

Indeed Jesus said it all:
Humans prefer DARKNESS to LIGHT because of the works of their hands.


Thank God for the gift of the Internet: all the hidden truths about Islam are getting broadcast by Muslims themselves.

Unfortunately, the spiritual deception and chains of satan over their hearts and soul is strong.
We pray for God's mercy for Muslims for freedom!

True!

Human prefers darkness to light because their deeds are evil

This makes me remember the story of a very wicked man who died in Lagos..He was so wicked that even in his old age, while his children were fighting over his properties in his living room, they threw him downstairs from their 1 storey building. He broke his legs as a result and became sick with no child even pitying his condition. He was so wicked that even his children had no feelings for him. He was left and deserted by friends, relations, wife and children. Only his lawyer was his companion.

One day, as his life was coming to an end, he called his lawyer who rushed over to see him on his dying bed at home. Sensing that the wicked man would soon pass away, the lawyer asked him to pray to God for forgiveness of sins before he crosses over. The guy answered that he has never prayed before and does not know how to pray because he doesn't know which God to believe. The lawyer asked him to choose one God now and pray to that God. He explained the difference between the Christian God and that of Islam. The man thought for a while and decided he'll ask Allah for forgiveness. Few minutes later, he died. His fate was already sealed. Satan really got his soul after all the wickedness he had done.

Men themselves don't know that they love darkness. Wicked men always mistakenly choose darkness because their evil deeds must be judged. And by choosing darkness and ending with it, they come into a just judgement of God upon their evil ways.
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 9:03am On Jun 28
Qasim6:


Abraham pray to God in Genesis 17:18 for Ishmael to live before God and God promise Ishmael a great nation

Is God promise of a great nation going to be Idolatry pagan nation?

Where is the great nation God promise Ishmael in Genesis 17:20?
You make a great assumptions!
What is the proof that Mohammed is a descendant of Ishmael?

YHWH spoke to Abraham, is YHWH the God of Mohammed?

Who told Mohammed that he is a descendant of Abraham?
Qasim6:

Keep on wailing bro, you go wail tire!
The questions are simple and basic sir:

Why will Allah first allow you to spend time in Hell before removing you?

Why would Allah use Christians and Jews as your ransom rather than Atheists and Idolaters?

What is the Light of Islam when no Muslim can guarantee to enter paradise?


Qasim6:

Seems you are mistaken
This is our 5 basic doctrines
1 Profession of Faith (shahada). The belief that "There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the Messenger of God"
2 Prayer (salat)
3 Alms (zakat)
5 Fasting (sawm)
6 Pilgrimage (hajj)
Councils were not held, we did not take a vote for those doctrines

Over 300 years after Jesus left, they were still holding councils on the nature of Jesus, they even took a vote on the nature of Jesus; and they waited another 56 years to perfect your doctrine of trinity by adding the spooky ghost to the mix.

Stop throwing stones at people living in brick house while you are living in an open shelter.
Since the SHIA believe exactly this, are they TRUE Muslims?

The best you can do about Christianity and in particular Trinity is STRAWMAN arguments. Have I not shown you clearly that the Taoheed of Allah is NOT different from the Taoheed of Iblis!?
So, what are you dribbling yourself about?


Councils were not held in Islam yet you hold the doctrine of Taoheed! Did Allah ever once mentioned Taoheed in the Qur'an?

Councils did not hold in Islam yet Uthman unilaterally destroyed 6 of the 7 Qur'an of Allah for just one!

Councils did not hold in Islam, yet 200-300 years after Mohammed, you started compiling hadiths of your prophet!

Councils did not hold in Islam, yet you have heaps of scholars who's Tafsirs of the Qur'an in simple Arabic is depended on till today!

Councils were not held in Islam yet somehow you made the Qur'an of Mohammed and Abubakar and Uthman disappeared for the Qur'an from the RECITATION of Hafs (a confirmed Liar, Thief and Fraud of a man)!

I see, you truly live in a Grass-Thatched house
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by AntiChristian: 9:14am On Jun 28
TenQ:

Good that you accept that this is terrorism.

About your question:
What do you think of the One who gave such a command: Do you consider Him a terrorist seeing that the reason for this extermination is not for material gain?

What also do you think of a certain "prophet" who without instruction from his God slaughtered over 700 Jewish men who helped him to did the trench at the Battle of the Trench?
When will you call this terrorism too?

Accept the Amalek one first!
That was the same verse Netanyanhu quoted before killing civilians in the guise of Hamas!
Accept that your God proudly supports and encouraged terrorism!
Accept that Jesus was a prince of war in the Old testament (not peace).
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 9:25am On Jun 28
FxMasterz:


True!

Human prefers darkness to light because their deeds are evil

This makes me remember the story of a very wicked man who died in Lagos..He was so wicked that even in his old age, while his children were fighting over his properties in his living room, they threw him downstairs from their 1 storey building. He broke his legs as a result and became sick with no child even pitying his condition. He was so wicked that even his children had no feelings for him. He was left and deserted by friends, relations, wife and children. Only his lawyer was his companion.

One day, as his life was coming to an end, he called his lawyer who rushed over to see him on his dying bed at home. Sensing that the wicked man would soon pass away, the lawyer asked him to pray to God for forgiveness of sins before he crosses over. The guy answered that he has never prayed before and does not know how to pray because he doesn't know which God to believe. The lawyer asked him to choose one God now and pray to that God. He explained the difference between the Christian God and that of Islam. The man thought for a while and decided he'll ask Allah for forgiveness. Few minutes later, he died. His fate was already sealed. Satan really got his soul after all the wickedness he had done.

Men themselves don't know that they love darkness. Wicked men always mistakenly choose darkness because their evil deeds must be judged. And by choosing darkness and ending with it, they come into a just judgement of God upon their evil ways.

It is amazing how a religion will be based purely on lies and deceptions. Even the local African Traditional Religion or the Eastern Religions are not filled with this much lies.

But
Because Islam was designed specifically against the Christian Faith, it has to first create legitimacy by climbing on the Ladder of the Religion of the Jews and Christians and then recreating a new fabricated Religion just to prevent salvation in Christ Jesus and destroy Christians of little knowledge.

Everything is looking like Mohammed himself was a fabricated identity based on one of the earliest adherents of the religion of Islam. Till now, there is no archeological discovery pointing to the existence of Mecca or Medina on or before the 7th century.
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 9:29am On Jun 28
AntiChristian:


Accept the Amalek one first!
That was the same verse Netanyanhu quoted before killing civilians in the guise of Hamas!
Accept that your God proudly supports and encouraged terrorism!
Accept that Jesus was a prince of war in the Old testament (not peace).

Is it possible that God does Genocide?

What if I show you that Allah killed millions of babies and children in the Qur'an?
Will you affirmatively concur that Allah is a Terrorist?
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by AbuTwins: 9:36am On Jun 28
TenQ:


Notice how they would rather not discuss this but anything else!?

You don't want discussion but arguments!
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by AbuTwins: 9:39am On Jun 28
TenQ:

Is it possible that God does Genocide?

What if I show you that Allah killed millions of babies and children bin the Qur'an?
Will you affirmatively concur that Allah is a Terrorist?

Allah is the creator of man!
And no leave fall from the tree except He is aware of it!

My question is that if Boko Haram are terrorists because they claim they are fighting for their God killing innocent civilians, Are Moses, Joshua, Saul, etc that did same in the Bible too terrorists?

This is a simple question for you!
Note that i agree Boko Haram are terrorists!
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 9:44am On Jun 28
AbuTwins:


Allah is the creator of man!
And no leave fall from the tree except He is aware of it!

My question is that if Boko Haram are terrorists because they claim they are fighting for their God killing innocent civilians, Are Moses, Joshua, Saul, etc that did same in the Bible too terrorists?

This is a simple question for you!
Note that i agree Boko Haram are terrorists!
And I asked a basic question:
What do you think of the One who gave such a command: Do you consider Him a terrorist seeing that the reason for this extermination is not for material gain?

Since you include Moses and Joshua, do you concur that Mohammed is a Terrorist?


I also said:
What if I show you that Allah killed millions of babies and children bin the Qur'an?
Will you affirmatively concur that Allah is a Terrorist?


Thirdly:

What also do you think of a certain "prophet" who without instruction from his God slaughtered over 700 Jewish men who helped him to did the trench at the Battle of the Trench?
When will you call this terrorism too?
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 9:52am On Jun 28
AbuTwins:


You don't want discussion but arguments!
The problem is that I show you proofs from both your Qur'an, Hadith and sometimes your Tafsirs but you don't d likewise

BUT
You don't show any proof other than Repeating baseless Rhetorics which goes contrary to reason yet you expect me to believe them.

Like:
1. Is it true that Allah NEVER once called the Holy Spirit Jibril in the Qur'an?
2. Is it untrue that the only person mentioned by name to be a spirit by Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus?
3. Is it untrue that Allah breath of his spirit into Adam for him to become Living?
Is this spirit Jibril or Jesus or an attribute of Allah?

Instead of responding to the questions, what you do is to repeat the standard islamic narrative without any corresponding evidence or proof from the Qur'an.

This is my issue with you Muslims
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by AbuTwins: 10:05am On Jun 28
TenQ:

The problem is that I show you proofs from both your Qur'an, Hadith and sometimes your Tafsirs but you don't d likewise

BUT
You don't show any proof other than Repeating baseless Rhetorics which goes contrary to reason yet you expect me to believe them.

Like:
1. Is it true that Allah NEVER once called the Holy Spirit Jibril in the Qur'an?
2. Is it untrue that the only person mentioned by name to be a spirit by Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus?
3. Is it untrue that Allah breath of his spirit into Adam for him to become Living?
Is this spirit Jibril or Jesus or an attribute of Allah?

Instead of responding to the questions, what you do is to repeat the standard islamic narrative without any corresponding evidence or proof from the Qur'an.

This is my issue with you Muslims


Yeah, Proofs Holy Spirit revealed to you!
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by AbuTwins: 10:06am On Jun 28
TenQ:

And I asked a basic question:
What do you think of the One who gave such a command: Do you consider Him a terrorist seeing that the reason for this extermination is not for material gain?

Since you include Moses and Joshua, do you concur that Mohammed is a Terrorist?


I also said:
What if I show you that Allah killed millions of babies and children bin the Qur'an?
Will you affirmatively concur that Allah is a Terrorist?


Thirdly:

What also do you think of a certain "prophet" who without instruction from his God slaughtered over 700 Jewish men who helped him to did the trench at the Battle of the Trench?
When will you call this terrorism too?

You need to answer the question directly first before asking yours!
Na hypocrite dey do like that!
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by AbuTwins: 10:09am On Jun 28
TenQ:

Why do you Muslims hate the Truth this much?
Even according to you Muslims, 90% of your hadiths are fabricated. Your scholars cannot even agree on basic doctrines all because of lies

Knowing about the characters: Is it possible that Mohammed or Jesus be the BEST example for mankind?

Why are there many "Holy Spirit" helping you to interpret the Bible?

If you place 100 Christians in separate rooms and give them a Bible verse to interpret, each may come up with a slightly/majorly different interpretations! Is it because the Holy Spirit is a lie too?
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 10:15am On Jun 28
AbuTwins:


Yeah, Proofs Holy Spirit revealed to you!
Can you see yourself?
You wouldn't respond to any direct questions



1. Is it true that Allah NEVER once called the Holy Spirit Jibril in the Qur'an?

2. Is it untrue that the only person mentioned by name to be a spirit by Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus?

3. Is it untrue that Allah breath of his spirit into Adam for him to become Living?
Is this spirit Jibril or Jesus or an attribute of Allah?
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by AbuTwins: 10:19am On Jun 28
TenQ:

Can you see yourself?
You wouldn't respond to any direct questions



1. Is it true that Allah NEVER once called the Holy Spirit Jibril in the Qur'an?

2. Is it untrue that the only person mentioned by name to be a spirit by Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus?

3. Is it untrue that Allah breath of his spirit into Adam for him to become Living?
Is this spirit Jibril or Jesus or an attribute of Allah?

Same foolish questions we have answered but you keep parroting day and night!
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 10:20am On Jun 28
AbuTwins:


Why are there many "Holy Spirit" helping you to interpret the Bible?

If you place 100 Christians in separate rooms and give them a Bible verse to interpret, each may come up with a slightly/majorly different interpretations! Is it because the Holy Spirit is a lie too?
Another strawman as usual?
Can you show me a verse where the Holy Spirit is to help us interpret the Scriptures?

Every Christian can interpret the bible as he wills and others will judge his interpretation of it is in agreement with the scriptures and take their stand based on TRUTH and REASONING.


Unfortunately, in your case, your scholars do the interpretation and reasonings for you. Yours is to believe them whether they speak the truth or not.

No wonder, Muslims adopt falsehood simply because this is the position of their scholars
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 10:22am On Jun 28
AbuTwins:


Same foolish questions we have answered but you keep parroting day and night!
As you don't answer my questions, why wouldn't I repost them to you in case you are dull in understanding


1. Is it true that Allah NEVER once called the Holy Spirit Jibril in the Qur'an?

2. Is it untrue that the only person mentioned by name to be a spirit by Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus?

3. Is it untrue that Allah breath of his spirit into Adam for him to become Living?
Is this spirit Jibril or Jesus or an attribute of Allah?
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 10:24am On Jun 28
AbuTwins:


You need to answer the question directly first before asking yours!
Na hypocrite dey do like that!
When you see a hypocrite asking questions for which he is clearly biased against the TRUTH, you ask him questions that betray his hypocrisy

And I asked a basic question:
What do you think of the One who gave such a command: Do you consider Him a terrorist seeing that the reason for this extermination is not for material gain?

Since you include Moses and Joshua, do you concur that Mohammed is a Terrorist?


I also said:
What if I show you that Allah killed millions of babies and children bin the Qur'an?
Will you affirmatively concur that Allah is a Terrorist?


Thirdly:

What also do you think of a certain "prophet" who without instruction from his God slaughtered over 700 Jewish men who helped him to did the trench at the Battle of the Trench?
When will you call this terrorism too?
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 10:30am On Jun 28
AbuTwins:


Yeah, Proofs Holy Spirit revealed to you!
Do you mean Angel Jibril?

Answer my Questions:


The problem is that I show you proofs from both your Qur'an, Hadith and sometimes your Tafsirs but you don't d likewise

BUT
You don't show any proof other than Repeating baseless Rhetorics which goes contrary to reason yet you expect me to believe them.

Like:
1. Is it true that Allah NEVER once called the Holy Spirit Jibril in the Qur'an?
2. Is it untrue that the only person mentioned by name to be a spirit by Allah in the Qur'an is Jesus?
3. Is it untrue that Allah breath of his spirit into Adam for him to become Living?
Is this spirit Jibril or Jesus or an attribute of Allah?

Instead of responding to the questions, what you do is to repeat the standard islamic narrative without any corresponding evidence or proof from the Qur'an.

This is my issue with you Muslims
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by FxMasterz: 11:20am On Jun 28
TenQ:

It is amazing how a religion will be based purely on lies and deceptions. Even the local African Traditional Religion or the Eastern Religions are not filled with this much lies.

But
[b ]Because Islam was designed specifically against the Christian Faith, it has to first create legitimacy by climbing on the Ladder of the Religion of the Jews and Christians and then recreating a new fabricated Religion just to prevent salvation in Christ Jesus and destroy Christians of little knowledge.[/b]

Everything is looking like Mohammed himself was a fabricated identity based on one of the earliest adherents of the religion of Islam. Till now, there is no archeological discovery pointing to the existence of Mecca or Medina on or before the 7th century.

Infact the local African traditions don't tell lies about their religion. Those ones are just ignorant. But Islam is deliberate lies that must be defended with the sword.

The bolded is the real fact. Islam was created by Satan to fight against the salvation that Jesus brought.

I'll like to know more about the possible fabrication of mohammed. How did you arrive at this?
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 2:20pm On Jun 28
FxMasterz:


Infact the local African traditions don't tell lies about their religion. Those ones are just ignorant. But Islam is deliberate lies that must be defended with the sword.

The bolded is the real fact. Islam was created by Satan to fight against the salvation that Jesus brought.

I'll like to know more about the possible fabrication of mohammed. How did you arrive at this?
This the research Jay Smith and Al-Fadi have been doing for some years now.

Mohammed seems to be a superimposition of a fictional Mohammed with a Real Mohammed based on a gnostic Christian offshoot

Check on YouTube for some of their submissions

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Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by FxMasterz: 2:23pm On Jun 28
TenQ:

This the research Jay Smith and Al-Fadi have been doing for some years now.

Mohammed seems to be a superimposition of a fictional Mohammed with a Real Mohammed based on a gnostic Christian offshoot

Check on YouTube for some of their submissions

Thank you. I'll research deeper on this. The fact is that if Mecca indeed was not in existence as at the purported times of Mohammed's life, then something is really fishy.
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 4:59pm On Jun 28
FxMasterz:


Thank you. I'll research deeper on this. The fact is that if Mecca indeed was not in existence as at the purported times of Mohammed's life, then something is really fishy.
Most of the Ancient Islamic Books seems all to originated not from Mecca or Medina but in Baghdad and the northern kingdoms North above Saudi Arabia.
My issue is the tonnes of hadiths they have for Mohammed.
For now, we keep our fingers crossed until they come out with something beyond any argument

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Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by FxMasterz: 5:09pm On Jun 28
TenQ:

Most of the Ancient Islamic Books seems all to originated not from Mecca or Medina but in Baghdad and the northern kingdoms North above Saudi Arabia.
My issue is the tonnes of hadiths they have for Mohammed.
For now, we keep our fingers crossed until they come out with something beyond any argument
Hmm. This would be a very interesting kind of research to embark on.
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 5:58pm On Jun 28
FxMasterz:

Hmm. This would be a very interesting kind of research to embark on.
I prefer to leave this to the experts of both Arabic and Tools of analysis of ancient texts and scriptures.

For now, the Qur'an, Hadiths, Tafsirs and other Islamic documents are doing great work of destroying Islam for me.

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Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by FxMasterz: 6:06pm On Jun 28
TenQ:

I prefer to leave this to the experts of both Arabic and Tools of analysis of ancient texts and scriptures.

For now, the Qur'an, Hadiths, Tafsirs and other Islamic documents are doing great work of destroying Islam for me.

I learnt that the very Psalm that spoke about the the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is plainly written in the Quran as one of the Zabur of David:

"For you will not leave my soul among the dead or allow your holy one to rot in the grave." Psalm 16:10.

Meanwhile, being oblivious of this prophecy which Mohammed evidently copied from the. Bible without knowing what he was copying, he went and contradicted the same prophecy, saying Christ never died.
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by TenQ: 7:22pm On Jun 28
FxMasterz:


I learnt that the very Psalm that spoke about the the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is plainly written in the Quran as one of the Zabur of David:

"For you will not leave my soul among the dead or allow your holy one to rot in the grave." Psalm 16:10.

Meanwhile, being oblivious of this prophecy which Mohammed evidently copied from the. Bible without knowing what he was copying, he went and contradicted the same prophecy, saying Christ never died.
Mohammed never read the Torah not the Psalms nor the Injeel. However, he heard stories from many of his slaves some of them who were Christians and some of the stories he put in the Qur'an are from the Jews and other far away legends like the legend of Alexander the Great or the Legend of the seven sleepers. Anything he thought was interesting was put in the Quran in form of SAJA

It was said that many of the poets in Mohammed's time made fun of him because his Saja wasn't good. SAJA was the style of literatures Poets used in presenting their songs (more like Rap Music). Mohammed latter banned any arabs from using Saja poetry so that the Qur'an remains the only surviving Saja compilation of the Arabs.

Some people insinuate that the bulk of the Quran was initially a hymn to Christ (in one of the Syriac languages)which was later modified piece by piece to become the Qur'an;in Arabic. They insinuate that this is why some parts of the Qur'an is actually meaningless unless one look at it from the Syriac languages.

These are still too deep for me so that I keep my fingers crossed and deal with the one I know.
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by FxMasterz: 8:42pm On Jun 28
TenQ:

Mohammed never read the Torah not the Psalms nor the Injeel. However, he heard stories from many of his slaves some of them who were Christians and some of the stories he put in the Qur'an are from the Jews and other far away legends like the legend of Alexander the Great or the Legend of the seven sleepers. Anything he thought was interesting was put in the Quran in form of SAJA

It was said that many of the poets in Mohammed's time made fun of him because his Saja wasn't good. SAJA was the style of literatures Poets used in presenting their songs (more like Rap Music). Mohammed latter banned any arabs from using Saja poetry so that the Qur'an remains the only surviving Saja compilation of the Arabs.

Some people insinuate that the bulk of the Quran was initially a hymn to Christ (in one of the Syriac languages)which was later modified piece by piece to become the Qur'an;in Arabic. They insinuate that this is why some parts of the Qur'an is actually meaningless unless one look at it from the Syriac languages.

These are still too deep for me so that I keep my fingers crossed and deal with the one I know.


You know really much bro. So, the legend of Alexandra is also in the Quran? It was Allah who revealed that too?
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by Ohyoudidnt: 9:27pm On Jun 28
FxMasterz:


You know really much bro. So, the legend of Alexandra is also in the Quran? It was Allah who revealed that too?

Fortunately you have a mind of your own. Make your own research and don't follow the ignorant whims of another that has an erroneous quarrel with himself about the truth.

The Quran is the central religious text of Islam and contains guidance for all aspects of life. It does not specifically mention the legend of Alexandra. It is important to focus on the teachings and guidance provided in the Quran and the authentic Hadiths when seeking knowledge about Islam.

Were you told Psalm 16:10 is in the Quran and you believe it without verifying?
Re: The Holy Spirit In The Qur'an Cannot Be Angel Jibril by Qasim6(m): 9:35pm On Jun 28
TenQ:

Mohammed never read the Torah not the Psalms nor the Injeel. However, he heard stories from many of his slaves some of them who were Christians and some of the stories he put in the Qur'an are from the Jews and other far away legends like the legend of Alexander the Great or the Legend of the seven sleepers. Anything he thought was interesting was put in the Quran in form of SAJA

It was said that many of the poets in Mohammed's time made fun of him because his Saja wasn't good. SAJA was the style of literatures Poets used in presenting their songs (more like Rap Music). Mohammed latter banned any arabs from using Saja poetry so that the Qur'an remains the only surviving Saja compilation of the Arabs.

Some people insinuate that the bulk of the Quran was initially a hymn to Christ (in one of the Syriac languages)which was later modified piece by piece to become the Qur'an;in Arabic. They insinuate that this is why some parts of the Qur'an is actually meaningless unless one look at it from the Syriac languages.

These are still too deep for me so that I keep my fingers crossed and deal with the one I know.

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What is this?

There is no way one who listen to the likes of Jay Smith and not lose some gray matter.

See all the gibberish you are vomiting!

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