Emusan:


The best way I do use this to preach the gospel to them is by first asking this subtle question

Must I need to be a Jehovah Witness before I became believer?

Out of curiosity, some will answer outrightly No! But some will give an after thought answer Ye...... No!

The truth is, with that question, you have put them in a tight corner because no where in the scripture God command Christian to be His Witness rather the evidence throughout the scripture is that:

1. The Father Himself is a Witness to His Son
2. The Holy Spirit Himself is a Witness of the Son
3. The Apostles proclaim they are Witness of Jesus Christ
4. Jesus Himself commanded ALL HIS FOLLOWERS TO BE A WITNESS OF HIM not another person.

That is why, you see that the only scripture they can manipulate to back that claim up is from Old Testament which was never even about Jesus not to talk of His followers.

You are right my brother, a Christ's Witness as I am.

Some of us here found it funny when I said this organization against Jehovah esteem community truth over the scriptures and are living in delusion.

The summary of all about them.

Community truth, community delusion.

Renewedstrength:


Titus 1:6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.

1:7 For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre;

1:8 But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate;

1:9 Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.

2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

1 Tim 3:1-7

Beautiful. I pointed out ministries like Four Square founded 1952, Apostolic Faith, founded, 1887. Are these ministries approved of God. What is your take about their members?

MaxInDHouse:


Emusan asked:


This question begs a broaden expatiation that must be looked into.

What is the meaning of the word "BELIEVE"?
And who is a BELIEVER?

That's why i explained to the details because the Jews in Jesus' time were real BELIEVERS but it's what they believe that makes the difference! Romans 10:2-3

So it's not a must to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses before you can be called a believer it's what you believe (trust) that matters!

Whenever you see @color part just know the manipulation and twist are about to be vomited.

My question doesn't need human philosophy and manipulation.

Do I need to be a Jehovah Witness before I can become a believer in Christ?

The scripture says No!

If the Bible says Yes! Bring the verse(s) here!

MaxInDHouse:
Were first century Jewish religious people believers in the scriptures?

Yes!

So why must they believe in one young man whose parents were born in their eyes?

because the believe in the scripture and never go outside what the scripture didn't say.

Even the Young man born in their presence explained everything WRITTEN ABOUT HIM to them and that also solidified their believe in the Scripture.

Well if someone claims he is a believer but he refuses to accept what is written in the Bible and he has a religious book which his own parents taught him to believe from infancy, would you accept him as your fellow believer?

No believer will refuse to ACCEPT what it's written in the Bible.

Besides, you're going out of the way as usual.

If not why must he accept your own beliefs for him to qualify to be your fellow believer?

To be qualified to be called a Believers in Christ is to believe and Trust in Jesus Christ, his NAME and as Son of God.

So, do I need to be a Jehovah witness before I became a believer in Christ?

That is the question

achorladey:


That's how they advance their double face. What they sell to outsiders is different from what they sell within.

They're not Christians anyway. They don't believe in Jesus. Their belief is in angel Michael. They're just using the glorious name 'Jehovah' as a cover. They're a group whose object of worship is Michael the archangel. Hence, they seek more and more people to worship an angel as they do. If you're not worshipping Angel Michael, to them, you're not a believer. Look closely at them. They're very carnal people; spiritually ignorant, and have no personal experience of fellowshipping with the Holy Ghost. They do not know what life in the Spirit is. They do not have any inkling of who Jesus is His essence. They think of Jesus in the basest forms similar to Islam. They don't know the actual value of the cross. They have no working knowledge of what salvation is all about. They're just a bunch of carnally minded people doing religion for some imaginary rewards. Their conducts here and their perspectives about the scriptures exposes their spiritual illiteracy and the depth of their bankruptcy.

Emusan:

Whenever you see @color part just know the manipulation and twist are about to be vomited. My question doesn't need human philosophy and manipulation. Do I need to be a Jehovah Witness before I can become a believer in Christ?
The scripture says No!
If the Bible says Yes! Bring the verse(s) here!

This is what you asked initially:

Emusan:

Must I need to be a Jehovah Witness before I became believer?

Please put yourself in the position of the one preaching and me in the position of a listener.

If i should ask you that question as a stranger that you've never known before would you have concluded that i'm asking regarding faith in Jesus?

Please we are the ones going from house to house preaching and we do encounter various types of religionists in our territory so if someone ask that question i can't just conclude that he is talking about faith in Jesus of Nazareth since there are thousands of religions out there and all of them believe in one thing or another making them all believers so it's what each person believes that makes the difference!

Emusan:

Yes!

So they are BELIEVERS already it's another thing entirely that a Christian is bringing to them whether scriptural or not they already believe in the scriptures.

Emusan:

because they believe in the scripture and never go outside what the scripture didn't say.

That's why majority of the people back then disagree with Jesus and his disciples because they are believers already in the scriptures it's the fulfillment of what's written in the scriptures that's confusing them as they can't wrap it all up that Jesus of Nazareth is the foretold or promised Messiah (Christ) so that's why it was difficult for them to accept Jesus.

Emusan:

Even the Young man born in their presence explained everything WRITTEN ABOUT HIM to them and that also solidified their believe in the Scripture.

Now we're reaching the same conclusion just as we are explaining everything WRITTEN ABOUT Jesus' group in the final part of the days and only few believe what we are showing them which solidified their faith that they have found Jesus' group.

Emusan:

No believer will refuse to ACCEPT what it's written in the Bible. Besides, you're going out of the way as usual.

But the first century Jews were BELIEVERS in the scriptures yet they rejected Jesus of Nazareth with all the things written about him in the scriptures.
So are they no longer believers as you've said formerly?

Emusan:

To be qualified to be called a Believers in Christ is to believe and Trust in Jesus Christ, his NAME and as Son of God.

To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples in your own time so as to IDENTIFY them with all the things he foretold about them. If you ignore all the things Jesus said about his future disciples how can you prove that you believe in his foresight to predict what you should be doing in your own time?

Emusan:

So, do I need to be a Jehovah witness before I became a believer in Christ?
That is the question

The question is simple if you must be a believer in Christ Jesus whom we can't see today but agreed that he once walked this planet then you must believe all what he said regarding his future disciples and how to identify them in the midst of thousands of religions all claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! Matthew 7:16-18 compare to Matthew 7:24-27

Emusan:


Whenever you see @color part just know the manipulation and twist are about to be vomited.

My question doesn't need human philosophy and manipulation.

Do I need to be a Jehovah Witness before I can become a believer in Christ?

The scripture says No!

If the Bible says Yes! Bring the verse(s) here!

Similar TO..... must I be one of Jehovah’s witnesses in order to be SAVED?

MightySparrow:


Beautiful. I pointed out ministries like Four Square founded 1952, Apostolic Faith, founded, 1887. Are these ministries approved of God. What is your take about their members?

Are those ministries following the scriptures? What do they teach?
A ministry can be in error, and think they are in the right.

MaxInDHouse:


So they are BELIEVERS already it's another thing entirely that a Christian is bringing to them whether scriptural or not they already believe in the scriptures.


That's why majority of the people back then disagree with Jesus and his disciples because they are believers already in the scriptures it's the fulfillment of what's written in the scriptures that's confusing them as they can't wrap it all up that Jesus of Nazareth is the foretold or promised Messiah (Christ) so that's why it was difficult for them to accept Jesus.



Now we're reaching the same conclusion just as we are explaining everything WRITTEN ABOUT Jesus' group in the final part of the days and only few believe what we are showing them which solidified their faith that they have found Jesus' group.



But the first century Jews were BELIEVERS in the scriptures yet they rejected Jesus of Nazareth with all the things written about him in the scriptures.
So are they no longer believers as you've said formerly?



To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples in your own time so as to IDENTIFY them with all the things he foretold about them. If you ignore all the things Jesus said about his future disciples how can you prove that you believe in his foresight to predict what you should be doing in your own time?



The question is simple if you must be a believer in Christ Jesus whom we can't see today but agreed that he once walked this planet then you must believe all what he said regarding his future disciples and how to identify them in the midst of thousands of religions all claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! Matthew 7:16-18 compare to Matthew 7:24-27

The @color is enough to see your obvious twisting and manipulation.

Well, like I do tell you, you can twist and manipulate God's words from now till you die but one thing is certain, the True God and His word will continue to expose your lies and and manipulation.

Renewedstrength:
Are those ministries following the scriptures? What do they teach?
A ministry can be in error, and think they are in the right.

What happens to their members, are they outcasts in God's kingdom?

Emusan:


The @color is enough to see your obvious twisting and manipulation.

Well, like I do tell you, you can twist and manipulate God's words from now till you die but one thing is certain, the True God and His word will continue to expose your lies and and manipulation.

See lies and manipulations using that mini epistle as cover up.

To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples

Emusan:

The @color is enough to see your obvious twisting and manipulation.
Well, like I do tell you, you can twist and manipulate God's words from now till you die but one thing is certain, the True God and His word will continue to expose your lies and and manipulation.

Ọmọ you can't eat your cake and still have it.

The book has what is called "the four Gospel accounts" written by Jesus' disciples about his life and ministry and another called "Act of Apostles" then letters written by apostles and disciples all BORN AGAIN Christians so if you think it's not necessary to consider what Jesus said about his disciples to identify those practicing what he taught in your own generation then any religion can just pick one part either in the gospel accounts, Act of Apostles, letters or Revelations and start their own religion all in the name of Christ.
That's why there is contradictions everywhere and all of you are confused as to who is who yet you just pick the popular opinion.

Check the screenshots and see how confused those claiming Christians when you people feel like it's unnecessary figuring out what Jesus said about his group in your generation!

achorladey:

See lies and manipulations using that mini epistle as cover up.

I know you are just MANIPULATING their minds because you don't believe in any of their so called pastors.
One funny thing is how they rate their pastors above others.
For instance one of them equates their Joseph Ayo Babalola with Temitope Balogun Joshua.
Ọmọ come and see how they're all arguing and quarrelling over the matter instead of simply comparing both ministries to what Jesus said about his disciples and what they're supposed to be doing in the last days!

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ you can't eat your cake and still have it.

The book has what is called "the four Gospel accounts" written by Jesus' disciples about his life and ministry and another called "Act of Apostles" then letters written by apostles and disciples all BORN AGAIN Christians so if you think it's not necessary to consider what Jesus said about his disciples to identify those practicing what he taught in your own generation then any religion can just pick one part either in the gospel accounts, Act of Apostles, letters or Revelations and start their own religion all in the name of Christ.
That's why there is contradictions everywhere and all of you are confused as to who is who yet you just pick the popular opinion.

Check the screenshots and see how confused those claiming Christians when you people feel like it's unnecessary figuring out what Jesus said about his group in your generation!

No matter how you spin it, your lies and manipulation will never become TRUTH.

This statement will forever be false: "To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples"

You hate the truth and pride in your lies and manipulations, so keep it up!

Emusan:

No matter how you spin it, your lies and manipulation will never become TRUTH.
This statement will forever be false: "To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples"
You hate the truth and pride in your lies and manipulations, so keep it up!

Now you can see that the argument is strong and irrefutable.

To believe in Jesus today is believing in what he said about how to identify his disciples in our generation because neither Jesus of Nazareth nor his first century disciples are here now and there are thousands of different religions all claiming they are Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
So if you accept all of them as Christian without figuring out how to distinguish the real disciples through their activities then you don't believe in Jesus!

MaxInDHouse:


Now you can see that the argument is strong and irrefutable.

To believe in Jesus today is believing in what he said about how to identify his disciples in our generation because neither Jesus of Nazareth nor his first century disciples are here now and there are thousands of different religions all claiming they are Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
So if you accept all of them as Christian without figuring out how to distinguish the real disciples through their activities then you don't believe in Jesus!

No matter how you spin it, your lies and manipulation will never become TRUTH.

This statement will forever be false: "To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples"

You hate the truth and pride in your lies and manipulations, so keep it up!

MaxInDHouse:


I know you are just MANIPULATING their minds because you don't believe in any of their so called pastors.
One funny thing is how they rate their pastors above others.
For instance one of them equates their Joseph Ayo Babalola with Temitope Balogun Joshua.
Ọmọ come and see how they're all arguing and quarrelling over the matter instead of simply comparing both ministries to what Jesus said about his disciples and what they're supposed to be doing in the last days!

We know you must find a way to cover your likes and the madness and insanities peddling of your brains. Where you keep GB and unnecessary arguments with apostates?

I know you are just MANIPULATING their minds because you don't believe in any of their so called pastors.

Don't project your ways on me. . I am not the one defining believer to mean believing in Jesus disciples. Your Jehovah didn't ask you to believe in your GODS of men housed in USA.

One funny thing is how they rate their pastors above others.

Just like you raise your GODS of men above those pastors too. No difference between you and them?

For instance one of them equates their Joseph Ayo Babalola with Temitope Balogun Joshua.

I never knew it's part of the work of an elder of Jehovah's Witnesses

Ọmọ come and see how they're all arguing and quarrelling over the matter instead of simply comparing both ministries to what Jesus said about his disciples and what they're supposed to be doing in the last days

I should come and see. ;DThat's your ways of jumping up and down over nairaland looking towards having and enjoying company with wicked, ungodly, scoffers. Maxindhouse are you happy now that they arguing and quarrelling over the matter

Emusan:


No matter how you spin it, your lies and manipulation will never become TRUTH.

This statement will forever be false: "To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples"

You hate the truth and pride in your lies and manipulations, so keep it up!

What he loves doing peddling lies and manipulations on nairaland what a lady termed witchcraft of which they warned him about

MaxInDHouse:


Ọmọ you can't eat your cake and still have it.

The book has what is called "the four Gospel accounts" written by Jesus' disciples about his life and ministry and another called "Act of Apostles" then letters written by apostles and disciples all BORN AGAIN Christians so if you think it's not necessary to consider what Jesus said about his disciples to identify those practicing what he taught in your own generation then any religion can just pick one part either in the gospel accounts, Act of Apostles, letters or Revelations and start their own religion all in the name of Christ.
That's why there is contradictions everywhere and all of you are confused as to who is who yet you just pick the popular opinion.

Check the screenshots and see how confused those claiming Christians when you people feel like it's unnecessary figuring out what Jesus said about his group in your generation!

Madness and insanities peddling brains asked, who is a believer?

Answer from the same madness and insanities peddling brains said....

To be qualified to be called a believer in Christ is to believe what he said about his disciples"

FxMasterz come and see more madness and insanities peddling.

achorladey:



Madness and insanities peddling brains asked, who is a believer?

Answer from the same madness and insanities peddling brains said....



FxMasterz come and see more madness and insanities peddling.

My brother, these people aren't Christians. They're agents.

FxMasterz:


My brother, these people aren't Christians. They're agents.

This particular one just want to impress us as being a worst fool based on his own words from his lying and manipulated brains

Those following these people contradicting themselves are what? John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10

achorladey:


This particular one just want to impress us as being a worst fool based on his own words from his lying and manipulated brains

You're talking about someone who holds the words of men in higher esteem than the Word of God. I have accused him of that in previous mentions. He didn't deny it but rather he defended it.

Lol, this section has not changed much. Very typical of a deeper life thread to somehow turn to a Jwickedness thread. It seems deeper life really jilted these guys in Nigeria or something.

Image123:
Lol, this section has not changed much. Very typical of a deeper life thread to somehow turn to a Jwickedness thread. It seems deeper life really jilted these guys in Nigeria or something.

Looool the one you gave majamaja always marking his presence

Renewedstrength:
Are those ministries following the scriptures? What do they teach?
A ministry can be in error, and think they are in the right.

I guess you are a Jehovah's witness. Why can't you answer the directly

One more question:
How are people called into ministry?

Please, please, pleeeeease. Answer directly.

MaxInDHouse:

Haaaaaaaaaaa!
See trouble!
Ọmọ if you're not one of those desiring to be pastors i can confidently say about you that JEHOVAH has caught you o and there's no escape.
Let's see how you won't become one of Jehovah's Witnesses with what i'm seeing now!

When i typed the above you thought it was a joke shey?

MightySparrow:

I guess you are a Jehovah's witness. Why can't you answer the directly
One more question:
How are people called into ministry?
Please, please, pleeeeease. Answer directly.

How come you're now guessing the guy is one of Jehovah's Witnesses now?
So you're gradually seeing the sign that he's not the type that easily flows along with your popular trends shey?
Well that's how Jehovah's Witnesses are fished out most of us aren't just easy to catch but by the time we are through with our diligent study of God's word {Act 17:11} nothing can stop us not even Satan and his billions of worshipers! Isaiah 54:17

FxMasterz:

You're talking about someone who holds the words of men in higher esteem than the Word of God. I have accused him of that in previous mentions. He didn't deny it but rather he defended it.

I know my comments are really impressive just as your cohort achorladey and the rest knew but you guys won't admit rather you will continue to console yourselves in deception.
Well if you're sure i'm holding the words of men higher than that of God why not continue in holding the word of God higher than that of men nah? No wahala, Christians in the first century were also accused of holding the word of a man (Jesus) in higher esteem than the word of God yet the accusers won't allow them breath it's like their lives evolves around whatever the Christians say just as you and your cohorts are doing on this forum!

MaxInDHouse:


When i typed the above you thought it was a joke shey?

How come you're now guessing the guy is one of Jehovah's Witnesses now?
So you're gradually seeing the sign that he's not the type that easily flows along with your popular trends shey?
Well that's how Jehovah's Witnesses are fished out most of us aren't just easy to catch but by the time we are through with our diligent study of God's word {Act 17:11} nothing can stop us not even Satan and his billions of worshipers! Isaiah 54:17

What is wrong with someone desiring to be a pastor ?

achorladey:



Looool the one you gave majamaja always marking his presence

i see him running around naked yet no asleep sales.

Image123:


i see him running around naked yet no asleep sales.

Looool!