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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 6:12pm On Jul 19
raumdeuter:




Rooney wasn't 16 at the Euros
Unless that.

Because that performance is the best by a youngster I've ever witnessed at a tournament.

If he had stayed fit England would've won the whole thing.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:32pm On Jul 19
raumdeuter:


The time he scored that goal vs Arsenal remember that commentary

18yr old Wayne Rooney

He was still 16 when he scored that goal. That was in 2002.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by oliverano: 6:49pm On Jul 19
raumdeuter:


The time he scored that goal vs Arsenal remember that commentary

18yr old Wayne Rooney

Nope, he was still 16 and playing for Everton.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 7:41pm On Jul 19
Benfica about to sell another midfielder for 90 to 100million. They are the only Portuguese club making these kind of sells constantly.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FatherCHRISTMAS(f): 7:57pm On Jul 19
Kimbeast:
Benfica about to sell another midfielder for 90 to 100million. They are the only Portuguese club making these kind of sells constantly.

Its the top team
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:00pm On Jul 19
airmark:


We all know Foden's legs are not straight for PK and he won't play ahead of Palmer at Chelsea too.

Eruditor, the amputated debtor.
City dumped Palmer without consequence and Foden enabled City WIN the league. Have shame sometimes.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 8:11pm On Jul 19
I knew he signed under duress.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:20pm On Jul 19
hensben:
Foden is bad at penalty. He is a system player who might grow and learn how to play without depending on individual talent like Rodri, KDB and Halaand. Palmer was better than Foden last season but the later won epl best because city won the league. If Iโ€™m lying go to epl site count how many number of man of the match Foden won for city, Halaand had more number of man of the match than him even when he played less games due to injury.
Hens, I guarantee you, you cannot find a shred of evidence for anything you've said above. Foden missed 1 PK during a shootout with WestHam and that is what you are relying on. That is entirely illogical.

System player that won U17 worldcup for England as their best player?

Needs KDB and Haaland but played 4 and 6 months without both and had 20 G/A before KDB came back. When the season was going on, all I kept reading here was how City missed Gundo and Mahrez, how they had dropped in level and how Arsenal were going to win. Yet City still won the league.

Somehow, the player who was instrumental to City winning is inferior to a player that would still be riding City's bench till date if he was still there. You people are funny when not stupid.

Can you please provide the evidence for this MOTM awards you keep referring to. I've seen ZERO proofs thus far. A new season will soon begin. We are expecting Palmer to push CFC to win the EPL. Unlike you, I expect it of Foden and he will deliver. You will have excuses again. Time will show.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:28pm On Jul 19
monerozi5590:



Nah, not true. Jude and Foden were more of double 10 against Spain. Foden (RM) and Jude (LM). When Mainoo was taken off Jude took up Mainoo's position, Foden took up Jude's position on the LM and Palmer took up Foden's position on the RM. That was the changes England did when Palmer was introduced. Go and watch the match again.


That Jude pass wasn't an easy pass. Jude was facing Saka sideways and immediately he received the pass from Saka he had to twist to lay the pass perfectly for Palmer.
Utter nonsense my good friend. Foden was playing the pivot with Declan Rice even if the formation drafted had him appear advanced. That is why it is good to watch games rather than rely on data that always needs some context. Foden was assigned to mark Rodri. Who gives a 10 that type of assignment? Yea, because he was not a 10. Foden played 10 twice. A double 10 against Switzerland and the more advanced 10 against Netherlands.

In the second half against Spain, Foden moved back to LM as Southgate changed formation again. When he took Mainoo off, it was for Palmer. How can you claim Jude was playing Mainoo's position when he is in the box to receive Saka's pass with Watkins in the penalty area as well and Foden on the left. Why do you think Palmer was in that position to kick the ball? Are you claiming Mainoo would have been in that position where Jude was if he was still playing? grin

You people should be watching the games. Stop relying on isolated data that you cannot interpret.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:38pm On Jul 19
Ballzproblem2:
FT: Liverpool 0-1 Preston North End.

Mo Salah, Dominik Szoboszlai, Curtis Jones, Wataru Endo and Harvey Elliott all featured in Liverpoolโ€™s friendly with Preston today.


slut they like pesin wey go flop and I'm not just talking because he lost.


Liverpool players aren't that good,klopp was a genius .


apart from Salah,Diaz and Arnold nobody else they stand,well Sha.
bcus of 1preseason game

Better hope Salah moves to Saudi bcus him go carry them enter top 4 again
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:40pm On Jul 19
Android17:
Utter nonsense my good friend. Foden was playing the pivot with Declan Rice even if the formation drafted had him appear advanced. That is why it is good to watch games rather than rely on data that always needs some context. Foden was assigned to mark Rodri. Who gives a 10 that type of assignment? Yea, because he was not a 10. Foden played 10 twice. A double 10 against Switzerland and the more advanced 10 against Netherlands.

In the second half against Spain, Foden moved back to LM as Southgate changed formation again. When he took Mainoo off, it was for Palmer. How can you claim Jude was playing Mainoo's position when he is in the box to receive Saka's pass with Watkins in the penalty area as well and Foden on the left. Why do you think Palmer was in that position to kick the ball? Are you claiming Mainoo would have been in that position where Jude was if he was still playing? grin

You people should be watching the games. Stop relying on isolated data that you cannot interpret.
Lmao ๐Ÿคฃ so frauden defence is that he played as a DM

๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜†
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 8:45pm On Jul 19
Kimbeast:
Benfica about to sell another midfielder for 90 to 100million. They are the only Portuguese club making these kind of sells constantly.
he and that Florentine have 120m RC

Be like na wetin dem dey give their merchandise
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:23pm On Jul 19
BlueAngel444:

Lmao ๐Ÿคฃ so frauden defence is that he played as a DM

๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜†
I am not defending Foden. If he was England's 10 with the team built around him and he failed, I'd pile on him. Just like I never let the nonsense spoken about Rodri stand when he was played as a CB. That time La Liga fans claimed Rodri was inferior to Busquets as the reason he was being played in an unnatural position. Remember that Spain? Yeah, losing for fun and being lackluster.

They've moved Rodri back to CDM and he is getting ballon d'or chants while Spain look like world beaters.

I even said, if Southgate had no plans to use Foden effectively. He should not be started. I already knew England won't win shii without him because he is currently their best player.

My argument for Foden is, nobody expected Rice and Mainoo to have any stats for not being advanced but then insist Foden must have those stats playing in an unnadvanced position. The logic is not computing.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ballzproblem2: 9:58pm On Jul 19
Chelsea are looking for a goalkeeper whose strength lies in his distribution.

[via Fabrizio Romano]

I no dey like argue these days,I tell una say petrovic no dey safe you dey mention contract length.

me no go argue with you till you see am with your own eyes
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlewMahn: 10:39pm On Jul 19
The kit don't look bad here, ya know.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 12:45am
kendrick93:
You were watching Everton matches in 2003?
Maybe you saw clips but I doubt it was an extensive watch

Rooney at 16 was a prodigy but he wasn't getting as much minutes as Yamal at same age.

At 17, he became a regular starter for Everton but didn't have Yamal's current hype until he exploded at Euro 2004.

By that summer he was the hottest U-20 property in world football and lived up to hype with a mad hatrick on his UCL debut with Man U.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 12:47am
BlewMahn:
The kit don't look bad here, ya know.

This Chelsea kit keeps getting different and beautiful everytime l look at it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ThierryJay: 12:51am
Unlimited22:

Unless that.

Because that performance is the best by a youngster I've ever witnessed at a tournament.

If he had stayed fit England would've won the whole thing.

Possibly but Owen's France 98 exploits come close as well. In fact one can argue that his performance vs Argentina in the SR was superior to any of Rooney's at Euro 04.

Only that Rooney was more consistent in more matches.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 1:23am
Android17:
Utter nonsense my good friend. Foden was playing the pivot with Declan Rice even if the formation drafted had him appear advanced. That is why it is good to watch games rather than rely on data that always needs some context. Foden was assigned to mark Rodri. Who gives a 10 that type of assignment? Yea, because he was not a 10. Foden played 10 twice. A double 10 against Switzerland and the more advanced 10 against Netherlands.

In the second half against Spain, Foden moved back to LM as Southgate changed formation again. When he took Mainoo off, it was for Palmer. How can you claim Jude was playing Mainoo's position when he is in the box to receive Saka's pass with Watkins in the penalty area as well and Foden on the left. Why do you think Palmer was in that position to kick the ball? Are you claiming Mainoo would have been in that position where Jude was if he was still playing? grin

You people should be watching the games. Stop relying on isolated data that you cannot interpret.


I watched the match twice and what you stated here is not correct.

Concerning the goal. Jude received the pass almost deep in his own half with a one touch pass to Palmer, Palmer to Saka. Saka progress the ball further to the side of Spain's box. Jude didn't stop running. He was waiting for the moment and the pass came and he lay it for Palmer.

What's Foden role when England is with the ball? Every team player marks either man to man or shadow marking.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 1:32am
Android17:
City dumped Palmer without consequence and[b] Foden enabled City[/b] WIN the league. Have shame sometimes.

What about Foden disabled England in the Euros?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 3:36am
monerozi5590:



I watched the match twice and what you stated here is not correct.

Concerning the goal. Jude received the pass almost deep in his own half with a one touch pass to Palmer, Palmer to Saka. Saka progress the ball further to the side of Spain's box. Jude didn't stop running. He was waiting for the moment and the pass came and he lay it for Palmer.

What's Foden role when England is with the ball? Every team players mark either man to man or shadow marking.
First and foremost, not all teams play man-to-man. Some play zonally and just give the wingers defensive assignments. Emphasis on DEFENSIVE. Yet Southgate set-up to completely defend in the first half so what was an attacking player going to do with a defensive assignment like 'shadow Rodri and make sure he does not receive the ball where he would like to [because you play with him in City]' - all these are my conjectures for what Southgate was thinking, but that was how the players interpreted it. England could not string 3 passes together. The ball was going from Pickford to almost Kane and back to Spain. So what would Foden do to stay engaged? Stay on Rodri.

I don't want to keep going on, especially if I have to keep explaining myself unnecessarily.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 6:19am
ThierryJay:


Rooney at 16 was a prodigy but he wasn't getting as much minutes as Yamal at same age.

At 17, he became a regular starter for Everton but didn't have Yamal's current hype until he exploded at Euro 2004.

By that summer he was the hottest U-20 property in world football and lived up to hype with a mad hatrick on his UCL debut with Man U.

Rooney don 18 for euro 2004 sha
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 6:23am
As much as I follow call out foden due to his performance at the euros , you people that are still dragging him should enjoy it while it last ,once proper club football resumes there will be nothing to drag about him because he will always deliver there

Players like Vinicius have always been bad for his national team ,but he is always getting away with it because he plays for Madrid ,Lmao
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Melvyn11: 7:03am
andrewbaba44:
As much as I follow call out foden due to his performance at the euros , you people that are still dragging him should enjoy it while it last ,once proper club football resumes there will be nothing to drag about him because he will always deliver there

Players like Vinicius have always been bad for his national team ,but he is always getting away with it because he plays for Madrid ,Lmao
Why do you keep repeating this lie. Vini has only represented Brazil in two major competitions as a guaranteed starter.

2022 world cup: 1 goal 2 assists

2024 Copa: 2 goals

5 goal contributions in 7 games. To put it into context Messi First two competition for Argentina ( 2007 Copa and 2010 world cup) 4 goal contributions in 11 games.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Realtord43: 7:04am
andrewbaba44:
As much as I follow call out foden due to his performance at the euros , you people that are still dragging him should enjoy it while it last ,once proper club football resumes there will be nothing to drag about him because he will always deliver there

Players like Vinicius have always been bad for his national team ,but he is always getting away with it because he plays for Madrid ,Lmao
If a player can only play well for his club and flop hard with his national team, what can you call such player?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by akwesenana: 7:05am
andrewbaba44:
As much as I follow call out foden due to his performance at the euros , you people that are still dragging him should enjoy it while it last ,once proper club football resumes there will be nothing to drag about him because he will always deliver there

Players like Vinicius have always been bad for his national team ,but he is always getting away with it because he plays for Madrid ,Lmao
Foden is a good player, no doubt. Just that many people are irked by this
And:
1. Kane cannot play 5 positions adequately. Kane plays just a couple.
2. Kane does not have the same close control and dribbling.
3. Kane did not have the goal scoring ability at the same age.
4. Kane did not have the individual awards at the same age.
5. Kane could not break into far less quality teams at the age Foden did.
6. Kane did not show the same passing range at the same age.

The only English player with similar talent range as Foden was Rooney - not even Owen who was just a goal scorer.

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 7:07am
Realtord43:
If a player can only play well for his club and flop hard with his national team, what can you call such player?
We call him Frank Lampard ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:20am
Melvyn11:

Why do you keep repeating this lie. Vini has only represented Brazil in two major competitions as a guaranteed starter.

2022 world cup: 1 goal 2 assists

2024 Copa: 2 goals

5 goal contributions in 7 games.

You can keep deceiving yourself

Vinicius canโ€™t even give 20 percent of his Madrid performance for brazil

2 goals at the copa in 3 games ,2 stinkers from those 3 games ,the 2 goals he scored was his best performance for Brazil for how many years ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:20am
Realtord43:
If a player can only play well for his club and flop hard with his national team, what can you call such player?

Doesnโ€™t make him a bad player

Vinicius is a world class player but he is average for Brazil
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:38am
Tyle Adams to miss start of season again due to injury, who be that person that time way want make Chelsea sign am unto say him cheap and him dey run around well ๐Ÿค”
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:49am
Android17:
I am not defending Foden. If he was England's 10 with the team built around him and he failed, I'd pile on him. Just like I never let the nonsense spoken about Rodri stand when he was played as a CB. That time La Liga fans claimed Rodri was inferior to Busquets as the reason he was being played in an unnatural position. Remember that Spain? Yeah, losing for fun and being lackluster.

They've moved Rodri back to CDM and he is getting ballon d'or chants while Spain look like world beaters.

I even said, if Southgate had no plans to use Foden effectively. He should not be started. I already knew England won't win shii without him because he is currently their best player.

My argument for Foden is, nobody expected Rice and Mainoo to have any stats for not being advanced but then insist Foden must have those stats playing in an unnadvanced position. The logic is not computing.
your logic is an obvious error na, what nonsense is unadvanced position.

Foden that doesn't defend in city became a defender in England in your eyes, it goes to show you are blind, he only dropped deep to pick up the ball and run forward with it, was dispossessed so many things that he could be called a defensive error.

Your city isn't even built around Foden yet you want England to be built upon sand, well Southgate tried and they sank. Foden is the real reason England lost the euros, he was so useless he made others around him useless. From entering their position like a confused positionless player, to inability to properly pick a pass. I guess passes to moving players isn't a strong point.

People talk about Haaland's drop off, well the difference is Foden and Haaland may have possibly been helping him. Even before the euros there were those who felt city's best player was Rodri not Foden.

You are now telling us that Foden is a CDM abi. will you shut up there, even Bellingham that dropped deep to defend alot of times still had way way more impact that frauden Flopden foden

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 7:56am
Android17:
Utter nonsense my good friend. Foden was playing the pivot with Declan Rice even if the formation drafted had him appear advanced. That is why it is good to watch games rather than rely on data that always needs some context. Foden was assigned to mark Rodri. Who gives a 10 that type of assignment? Yea, because he was not a 10. Foden played 10 twice. A double 10 against Switzerland and the more advanced 10 against Netherlands.

In the second half against Spain, Foden moved back to LM as Southgate changed formation again. When he took Mainoo off, it was for Palmer. How can you claim Jude was playing Mainoo's position when he is in the box to receive Saka's pass with Watkins in the penalty area as well and Foden on the left. Why do you think Palmer was in that position to kick the ball? Are you claiming Mainoo would have been in that position where Jude was if he was still playing? grin

You people should be watching the games. Stop relying on isolated data that you cannot interpret.
Let me reply you well, who gives a 10 that kind of assignment?

It wasn't given to Manioo and Rice who were midfielders, right. The reason is because Foden was useless in attack. Even Saka that play RWB didn't man mark anyone even Nico and had more input going forward.

You think everyone relies on data, you came here and mentioned one single instance of Bellingham being forward and claimed he played much of the game forward.

You are man marking Rodri when Ruiz is even more deadly at the other end. Wetin D man marking achieve. He failed both as an attacker and as a man-marker. And he failed to form injury so as to leave early that may have been his biggest contribution if he did that.

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