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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 8:57pm On Jul 19 |
Rino governor of Utah Spencer Cox finally endorsed Trump per Deseret news. This signals moderate support and unification. I don't expect Romney to openly endorse Trump but I bet he quietly votes for him... Same with Christie and Cheney ![]() This is a satire though isn't far-fetched. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Laurene: 9:01pm On Jul 19 |
I agree. Then Dems can't decide Biden isn't fit to run for reelection but he's fit to continue to be president. They can't bamboozle the electorate. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by basilico: 5:21am On Jul 20 |
Joe Biden has been shielded by media. They ask him softballs. They don't report that he has large talking points cards every single time in public. He reads out a list of those to ask him questions. The media is pathetic. They knew he was not upto speed, until he foolishly agreed to debate Trump . I think the debate was a setup to force him out of the race, it backfired because he was just too awful and a pain to watch Someone else is running the show at the WH. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKOusB4FVjU |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Blossomhealthng: 12:13pm On Jul 20 |
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Gerrard59(m): 1:00pm On Jul 20 |
If you ask a Nigerian-American why do you support Biden rather than Trump, one of the reasons would be that Trump promises to make immigrating to the US restrictive, especially for black Africans, and Trump is racist yada yada yada. However, recent stat has shown that even with Biden as president, the visa rates for African students who want to study in the US have been abysmal. Here is it: "Overall, 80% of the top 15 countries with increased visa refusal rates are from Africa, the remaining 20% are from Asia." Considering that Asia is way more populated than Africa, especially the major two sources of foreign students in the US - India and China - yet its refusal rates is below 30% means African students are disproportionately refused visas in both sheer and per capita terms. Well, this is the reality: both parties in the US don't want to increase the black population in the US. As it is, the population of black people in the US is projected to decline to below 10% before the next century. The only way to maintain the current numbers is to import black Africans into the country. So, the belief that the Democrats are less "racist" than the GOP is mere semantics. Numbers don't lie. https://www.presidentsalliance.org/is-it-any-easier-for-global-south-international-students-to-study-in-the-u-s-visa-denials/ cc: IbeOkehie 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:43pm On Jul 20 |
this is Yemen celebrating the of an Israeli from a drone attack https://x.com/dina_sulaeman/status/1814549517448196461 if Israel retaliates you will hear civilians are being killed |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:35pm On Jul 20 |
Gerrard59: The logic here is specious at best. You start with a questionable premise as to why Nigerians don't support Trump, use a specious at best unsupported stat to then make another questionable generalization. 1.) Most Nigerian Americans don't support Trump and Republicans because Republicans allow racism in their party and formulate policy based on that Racism. And so that racism affects everyday life in the US and portends bad things for black children of Nigerian Americans. That racism also then extends to immigration policy. Like Trump's quotes about good and bad immigration. In a White House meeting with members of Congress this week, President Trump is said to have suggested that the United States accepts too many immigrants from "shithole countries" in Africa and too few from countries like Norway. 2.) Then you use an unsupported stat, increased visa denial rates. But have you drilled down on that stat? Have you checked whether there has been a recent increase in applications from Nigeria (would seem like it giving the economic conditions in Nigeria). Have you looked at the incidence of fraudulent applications comparatively in the various countries and how that accounts for Visa denials? All those would drive the denial rate up. I haven't drilled down to the data, but I'm sure you haven't either. And so, the stat doesn't make the point you think it does. At least for people used to studying data. 3.) Then you use all that to say "Democrats are less "racist" than the GOP is mere semantics", while leaving out the pure historical and contemporaneous reasons why African Americans believe the Republicans to be more racist. Just look at the Republican convention and the admitted Racists allowed to speak (Hulk Hogan, for one). This was a very very weak argument. If I were grading it for any student I mentored, I'd give it a D-. A D- just because you tried and wrote some words on the paper. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 5:37pm On Jul 20 |
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 6:11pm On Jul 20 |
This is Trump's America When laws only matter for certain people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv0U5L0PvzU |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 6:56pm On Jul 20 |
bemeruca: Yemen port in flames after their attack on Israel 1 Like
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IbeOkehie: 7:07pm On Jul 20 |
ijebosb: I think your arguments are based more on emotion, fear and greed than anything else. Again, every human being alive is racist, tribalist, religiously parochial, whatever. The claims of racism in the USA are exaggerated by middle class Black African immigrants to justify their access to benefits meant for the descendants of those they sold into slavery. How ironic! Black Africans sold their brethren into slavery and now come to the USA to steal the benefits the White Man set aside as compensation to the heirs of those slaves. You can't make this crap up, for real. And while the USA may have used its profits of slavery to build a great nation, the Black African slave sellers used theirs to drink ogogoro and marry many wives and produce plenty children. Black Americans got their full Civil Rights in 1964, South Africans got theirs in 1994 and Nigeria got independence in 1960. Of the three, the Negroes of the Zoo are the poorest. How come? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNUZQNpWZ10 The Black American victims of racism in the USA are the richest national group of Negroes on earth. Nigeria, home to an estimated 20% of Negroes on this planet, is a shithole. Every honest person has known and acknowledged this before President Trump ever said it. The USA deserves a better immigration system than it has today; priority should be given to the best persons and those who don't hate the USA. It's clear that too many immigrants hate their host nations. I only blame the Western nations that allowed themselves to be browbeaten and intimidated into accepting immigration. Go throw all these accusations in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait or Russia and see how it goes. Nonsense, indeed too much kindness is also a weakness. Good Luck to USA. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 7:29pm On Jul 20 |
this attack by Israel only shows how the US has been wasting tax payers money shooting rockets at camels. for 8months they have been bombing Yemi and nothing to show for it. Israel just bombs once and we can see the difference. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 7:42pm On Jul 20 |
bemeruca: The international coalition have been targeting munition stores and sites where the Houthis launched attacks from. Israel attacked port infrastructure and an oil depot. If the US wanted, they could have wiped off the entire port. Israel does not care about blowback because it has the entire West running defense for them The international coalition must exercise more care and restraint because they have lots of assets and allies in the region that are not as well defended. -Lord 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 7:51pm On Jul 20 |
LordAdam16: let's say they launch one or two drones from a site, The US will go and bomb the site. what is the point? the launch sites are not used for storage. so they are bombing camels—a waste of resources. We know if the US wants to bomb Yemen, they will do it... so if they don't want to, why waste rockets? what is the care? the Huthis have been killing sailors in the sea, Saudis, Egypt, etc will all back a serious blow to the Huthis. no one is talking about wiping them out but do enough to deter them. all this weakness is the reason the Middle East is on fire. we know there will be a huge fire if the US targets their munition storage. we see it in Russia. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 8:09pm On Jul 20 |
bemeruca:] And what happens if in response to such strikes the Houthis blow up the oil infrastructure of US allies in the region where US bases and assets are located? They successfully hit Saudi Arabia oil facilities during their war. Is Biden ready for $5 gasoline 4 months out from an election? That'll simultaneously be a windfall for Russia. As I said, Israel does not care about repercussions. AIPAC has the US and the rest of the West in a vice grip. The US, UK, and the International coalition cannot be similarly reckless. The plan is to contain the conflict until the ceasefire is brokered. -Lord 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 8:16pm On Jul 20 |
IbeOkehie: This post is full of faux intellectualism and mostly uninformed. You seem to know little about racism in the US. And seem to know little about why more middle class black people access "benefits meant for the descendants of those they sold into slavery" than more disadvantaged black people. It's more complex than what you think. I've read another one of your posts in another thread, which employed some of the same erroneous "logic". Logic like "1+3=22" I'm not sure where you live but if it is the US, it's clear you don't have access to other Black people of differing socioeconomic backgrounds to bounce these "thoughts" of yours off of. You should. Those discussion may elucidate this concept of racism for you. Anyhow, everyone may have some implicit biases they may not even be aware of. The goal in life should be to be find them and root them out to make sure they are not impacting others. You seem comfortable in people just having them and hurting others because of them. I'm not sure what happened to you or happens to certain black people, a lot in this thread, that they choose to become racism defenders. It's peculiar and very sad. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:18pm On Jul 20 |
LordAdam16: You don't let someone attack you and you don't respond because you are afraid they will blow up infrastructures. Any country they attack will not sit by and allow it. even if it means turning that part of Yemen into a desert so be it. but these terrorists are only doing this because they are not seeing serious responses. what they are doing is already an act of war. that's how Iranian proxies have been doing and the US did not respond till they killed 3 servicemen. After a strong response from the US, their attack stopped, right? and I am also saying they should not bother bombing if they know the bombing is meaningless or will have no effect. they should just not bomb at all because at the end of the day it will still be news that the US is bombing Yemen even if the Bomb has not effect. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:25pm On Jul 20 |
ijebosb: your problem is your racism. Blacks captured blacks and sold them to white men for bottles and umbrellas. 40 human beings were sold for 1 umbrella. the slaves that made it to the United States were the lucky slaves. today, the weak victims who have nothing to do with what happened in the past are asking for reparation as if it was the white man who enslaved their ancestors. why don't they ask the Nigerian government for reparation? they should go to badagry LAGOS and ask for reparation. have you guys ever discussed the battle to free slaves and end the slave trade that some people lost their lives for? slavery was the norm and everyone was doing it, you people should move on. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 8:41pm On Jul 20 |
bemeruca: Sharrup. You're a self hating black man who spends his life trying to be seen in the "American Politics Thread". You're a broken person. Who the gives a fux what you think. Let me know if you want me to start a "How to sneak into Canada and apply for asylum" thread. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 8:49pm On Jul 20 |
ijebosb: so you could not refute what I said? you are only angry I don't play the "white man bad and look I am a victim" game. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 9:06pm On Jul 20 |
bemeruca: You do not use a bulldozer to swat a fly. The Houthi and Hezbollah response has helped calmed the Muslim Ummah. If Israel wasn't feeling the heat in any way, there would have already been an Arab Spring 2.0. The coalition strikes, however ineffective they appear, exacts a threshold on the nature and degree of these responses. There is a reason why this is Israel's first attack on the Houthis. And why Israel will not respond directly to the Houthis should they continue to sink Israeli ships, even after today. There is a red line between Israel being able to massacre civilians in Gaza and an International coalition massacring civilians all around the Middle East at Israel's behest. The latter will make the current Palestine protests in the West seem like a Xinjiang wedding. Here's the deal, the royal families in the likes of Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait are sitting on trillions of dollars. If a miscalculation kicks off a snowball that threatens their rule, Israel will empty out. This is not 1966. A very delicate balancing act is being executed right now. The goal is a ceasefire. Everything besides that must be managed pedantically to avoid a spiral. If that means more dead civvies in the region, well, so be it. -Lord 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IbeOkehie: 9:27pm On Jul 20 |
ijebosb: ![]() ![]() ![]() Not that I have to justify anything, but I know and interact with more Black Americans on a daily basis than you ever will. I migrated from Nigeria penniless, lived in the USA over 30 years, moved back to Nigeria and came back again. I've lived decade in Baltimore City, which is over 65% Black American and completely controlled by Black Americans. I attended one of the most most important Black owned Universities in the USA. ![]() ![]() ![]() I've said it before and here again - I've seen it all....OK, maybe not all but enough to know a lot. I used to babble all that racism stuff too, so I do understand where you're at. Good Luck to USA. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 9:33pm On Jul 20 |
IbeOkehie: As I said, I guarantee "you don't have access to other Black people of differing socioeconomic backgrounds to bounce these "thoughts" of yours off of." I was primarily talking about wealthier Black Americans. Why? Your post has little understanding of how racism works. In fact you have it backwards. As your socioeconomic position changes or as you get wealthier, you experience less racism, not because it doesn't exist but because you have more resources and are in a position to create spaces and opportunities where it doesn't touch you as much. So wealthier black people can sometimes forget it exists until it slaps them in the face again one day. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 9:36pm On Jul 20 |
LordAdam16: Israel is responding because the Houthis killed one and injured several in Tel Aviv. Israel has been bombing Syria and Iran, they can bomb the Houthis if they want and they did when the Houthis killed an Israeli and this is in the same response they have been doing for a while before Oct 7. Hamas shoots rockets, and Israel responds by leveling a building. the same is true for Lebanon so this is nothing new and if the Houthis continue, you will see a more severe response from Israel. the bold is just wrong. Saudi Arabia is at war with Yemen, and Iran wants to liberate the Saudis as well. why do you think they want to join a coalition with Israel to counter the Iranian threat? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 9:43pm On Jul 20 |
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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by armyofone(m): 9:47pm On Jul 20 |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IbeOkehie: 10:11pm On Jul 20 |
ijebosb: ![]() ![]() ![]() Dear Sir, I'm writing with my real name, I'm not hiding. I started my life AT THE ABSOLUTE BOTTOM, working illegally as a fast food fry cook at age 16. Who do you think I was working with? Which girls was I dating and which friends was I making? Wetin you wan tell me? Look, until I attended my Black University, I didn't even know there was this wealthy class of Black Americans...not celebrities and such, but just solid people whose GREAT GRAND PARENTS were university graduates, people so well grounded they have family wills and traditions that dictate they must go to that university, they wouldn't take an offer to Harvard if you gave them a full scholarship. The issues in Black America are complex, I'm sure I don't know it all but again, I know a lot. How do start to illustrate? When I moved to Baltimore, many people were concerned about the murder rate in that city. I myself became apprehensive enough that I checked out the data. I found out that if you don't get involved with illegal narcotics, your chances of being harmed are small. The stat I saw at the time was that 90% of murders AND murderers in Baltimore were involved in illegal drugs. I'm not kidding, I actually researched this. One of my work mates was a son of Nigerian immigrants, born and raised in the USA. One day I heard people saying oh, he had to leave work because his brother got killed in a shootout. When he came back to work the next day or so, I offered him condolences and asked how he was coping. He said he's not bothered at all, that the whole family had been expecting it for a while because he disregarded their warnings about getting involved with illegal drugs. So what killed his druggie brother, the racism of the same system that allowed him to rise to a job with a six-figure starting salary at one of the best institutions on planet earth? Or is there something else at play that explains this disparity between brothers raised by the same parents under one roof? Come on man!!! Dear sir, over 75% of Black American children are now born to single parents, mostly mothers. Every kind of research in the Western world has shown that is a one way track to poverty and all sorts of bad HDI outcomes. Are you telling me all these women were FORCED to get pregnant and have these children or what? I saw a paper some time ago that over 33% of children of Black African descent in the UK are now born to single mothers ....this paper researched SUB SAHARAN AFRICANS in particular, excluding Carribean Blacks and others. I have friends in the UK and I've talked to them and they confirm it's true. One of them was so bitter and started telling me how he's living hand to mouth working like a slave while his sister simple had 3 children without marriage and now lives comfortably on big welfare payments and free housing off the government. The data is the life around you. Like I tell people about Nigeria, everything is out in the open now, White Man has invented internet so all we have to do is LOOK, apply LOGIC and LEARN. What do you think of this article to which I referred the California lady: https://www.nytimes.com/1999/09/30/business/fannie-mae-eases-credit-to-aid-mortgage-lending.html Here's the full post in case you want to get my full view, I encourage you to read it - https://www.nairaland.com/8156082/nigeria-gets-751.88-million-recently/2#131006847 I keep being tempted to start a Youtube Channel. You're telling me I don't know upper middle class or poor people in the USA or UK? Thanks for the laughs sha, wetin I no go hear for this Nairaland. I think I need to mind my own business sha...but....still, thanks for the laughs!!! Good Luck to USA. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 10:12pm On Jul 20 |
armyofone: I was vegan for 3 years. A lot of health benefits. Always got those funny looks when I'm in Naij and would order soup without the swallow and no meat/fish. But did find a place that made oatmilk coffee, surprisingly enough. I added back fish and still cut back on as much of the animal food as possible. I do have my steak/burgers once in a while, think I missed that the most. But they have made the plant based burgers/steak so much better. You? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IbeOkehie: 10:18pm On Jul 20 |
bemeruca: Don't mind him, he thinks he's thinking when he's just venting emotions and playing victim. Good Luck to USA. 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 10:36pm On Jul 20 |
IbeOkehie: Your post is no different than most of the posts people have written with your ideology. Read and seen it already. Faulty premises, data that hasn't been fully thought through (like this argument about single black woman).etc. etc. There's even someone in this thread whose children have a single unwed mom, who tried to make the same argument that single mom's are the reason why Black children are in crisis. Nuts. I am not diminishing your views or your past, I'm just saying it sounds like you don't have a diverse group of people around you. I didn't grow up in the US wealthy either. My dad was doing his PHD in another state so he had 2 households to support while he was studying. My best friend when I was 13 was shot not far from where we lived. The first house my dad bought, when they found out he was black, they cancelled the agreement, made up a lie and tried to keep his deposit. I've been pulled over multiple times with guns drawn, once in front of my privileged high school. I've seen the racism personally. Now I'm somewhat older, I see it less. Not that it's not there, just that my money serves as privilege which insulates me some. And so with my friends. From being able to send their kids to private school, to having enough power now to check a racist cracker. You have it backwards, wealth insulates you some from racism. And if a wealthy or middle class person is yelling racism, it's because it exists and should worry you. Look it, a friend was telling me someone we both know, probably one of the wealthiest black people in my state, maybe even in the US, their kid got into an Ivy league, but they decided to go to a HBCU. Why? Because of the racism this wealthy black man knew and had experienced and wanted his child to not experience in college. I was shocked. Again, you have it backwards, your perspective doesn't seem to be broad enough. But this thread is on the US Politics. If you want to align your argument to the election, cool, if not you should start a new thread. |
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 10:41pm On Jul 20 |
ijebosb: IbeOkehie Just know this guy has experience for every situation. talk about the moon, he will tell you his dad was beating his mom in the dark side of the moon. 2 Likes 1 Share |
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