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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 9:30pm On Jul 27
bemeruca:
@budaatum, Hungary is struggling to take care of its people, the EU fines them 200million for not accepting migrants. German is spending 4billion a year.


Hungary people don't even want to live in Hungary, it seems. And Hungary is breaking EU Law.

EU law states that everyone fleeing persecution in their home country has the right to ask for international protection, and cannot be removed to their home if there is a serious risk of death or torture.

As for your "German is spending 4billion a year", do kindly post your source for context and so I can get a less maths is racist view.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 9:31pm On Jul 27
ijebosb:


Seems JD Vance, while not calling to defund the police, shared the same sentiment about changes needing to be made to policing.
Gift link: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/27/us/jd-vance-emails-transgender-classmate-highlights.html?unlocked_article_code=1.-U0.5qxQ.eG7nR_NDR88y&smid=url-share

Vance is a monumentally terrible pick. An own goal. Who vetted him.
It's interesting, how a lot of Americans, including conservatives are not necessarily against progressive positions, but are conditioned to stop engagement when they hear certain words and phrases associated with progressive movements.

Yeah, I hope JD Vance is a big spoiler for Trump.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Obrigardo: 9:37pm On Jul 27
Convicted felon trump has lost the race.
So he wants to eliminate voting and just fix it every four years. And the bumbling fool just blurted it out lol , 😅

Naaa, the criminal is gonna lose in a landslide.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 9:38pm On Jul 27
raumdeuter:


What should Biden have Israel do as a response to this attacks from Hesbollah?

Send flowers to Lebanon?
Nothing.

Israel can fight it's war on it's own, this isn't about defense anymore.

The territory that stray bomb hit isn't even a recognized Israeli territory.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 9:40pm On Jul 27
IMAliyu2:

Nothing.

Israel can fight it's war on it's own, this isn't about defense anymore.

Why do you say it isn't about defence anymore when Hezbollah just blew up Israelis

What was Israels offence to Hezbollah?

You don't mind Iran continuing to sponsor and fund Hezbollah while you want US to abandon Israel?

What do you hope to achieve by that? Whose territory is the bombed area? Is it Hezbollah?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IMAliyu2: 9:51pm On Jul 27
raumdeuter:


Why do you say it isn't about defence anymore when Hezbollah just blew up Israelis

And Israel blows up Lebanese and Palestinian civilians.
They've been exchanging fire for a while now.

But this will be an escalation by Israel, the US has legitimately been attempting to limit it's presence in the middle east, not be dragged into a larger war.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by raumdeuter: 10:02pm On Jul 27
IMAliyu2:
And Israel blows up Lebanese and Palestinian civilians.
They've been exchanging fire for a while now.

But this will be an escalation by Israel, the US has legitimately been attempting to limit it's presence in the middle east, not be dragged into a larger war.

Israel defends itself from aggression from Hamas and Hezbollah both backed by Iran.
These organizations hate Israel as much as they hate US and wont hesitate to treat any American same way they will treat an Israeli.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 10:12pm On Jul 27
IMAliyu2:

It's interesting, how a lot of Americans, including conservatives are not necessarily against progressive positions, but are conditioned to stop engagement when they hear certain words and phrases associated with progressive movements.

Yeah, I hope JD Vance is a big spoiler for Trump.

If you told them most progressive positions and told them Trump supported it they'd support it in a heartbeat.
That's why it's so easy to get them to vote against their own interests.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 10:16pm On Jul 27
budaatum:


Hungary people don't even want to live in Hungary, it seems. And Hungary is breaking EU Law.

EU law states that everyone fleeing persecution in their home country has the right to ask for international protection, and cannot be removed to their home if there is a serious risk of death or torture.

As for your "German is spending 4billion a year", do kindly post your source for context and so I can get a less maths is racist view.


See the context.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 10:20pm On Jul 27
IMAliyu2:


And Israel blows up Lebanese and Palestinian civilians.
They've been exchanging fire for a while now.

But this will be an escalation by Israel, the US has legitimately been attempting to limit it's presence in the middle east, not be dragged into a larger war.

Why do leftists think the same way? the reason Palestine was intact for decades was that Israel built a defense around its country to stop projectiles from killing its people. Long before Israel attacked or retaliated after Oct 7, Hezbollah had been firing missiles into Israel to show you Oct 7th was a coordinated attack on the Jewish state.

Israel Escalate what and how?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 10:24pm On Jul 27
IMAliyu2:
Seems there's a chance for a full blown war between Israel and Hesbollah (Lebanon).

I hope Biden, stands by his position and cuts support for Israel should they initiate an offensive on Lebanon (Hesbollah, which will require invading Lebanon).

if the world will let Israel be and allow it to solve its problem, they will end all this in months.
Biden should cut support, No problem but then Israel can use their Bigger bombs and solve the Gaza, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Iran problems.
anyone who wants to oppose should join the terrorists.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 11:37pm On Jul 27
IMAliyu2:
Seems there's a chance for a full blown war between Israel and Hesbollah (Lebanon).

I hope Biden, stands by his position and cuts support for Israel should they initiate an offensive on Lebanon (Hesbollah, which will require invading Lebanon).

That was an empty threat.
No American President will cut support for Israel while they're at war.

In addition, Biden is not seeking re-election.
Harris should kiss Michigan good bye if Netanyahu makes good on his threat to prosecute an all-out war against Lebanon.
That'll also make Minnesota a toss-up.

Trump's son-in-law is Lebanese Christian, so there's a limit to what can be permitted in a war against Lebanon regardless of who wins the election.

-Lord

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 12:04am On Jul 28
LordAdam16:


That was an empty threat.
No American President will cut support for Israel while they're at war.

In addition, Biden is not seeking re-election.
Harris should kiss Michigan good bye if Netanyahu makes good on his threat to prosecute an all-out war against Lebanon.
That'll also make Minnesota a toss-up.

Trump's son-in-law is Lebanese Christian, so there's a limit to what can be permitted in a war against Lebanon regardless of who wins the election.

-Lord

War does not work like this
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 12:26am On Jul 28
LordAdam16:


That was an empty threat.
No American President will cut support for Israel while they're at war.

In addition, Biden is not seeking re-election.
Harris should kiss Michigan good bye if Netanyahu makes good on his threat to prosecute an all-out war against Lebanon.
That'll also make Minnesota a toss-up.

Trump's son-in-law is Lebanese Christian, so there's a limit to what can be permitted in a war against Lebanon regardless of who wins the election.

-Lord

bemeruca:


War does not work like this

Lol.. Bemeruca is partially right (for once). The US doesn't work that way and wouldn't work that even under Trump.

Damn, you even have Bemeruca correcting the faux-intellectual fluff your posts consist of. That should tell you something.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 12:33am On Jul 28
bemeruca:


War does not work like this

Trump is infamous for his unpredictability in foreign affairs.
Trump will 100% call a timeout when Tiffany shows him pictures of dead Lebanese Christian kids and tells him the victims could have been his grandchildren.
And he's not Biden or Harris who will wait for a focus poll, strategist, or advisor to draw up a pro-con table.
Dude will send out a Truth at 3 am on a Sunday and wait for Netanyahu's call. On the call, he'll read out his ultimatum and that'll be it.

-Lord
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordAdam16: 12:43am On Jul 28
bemeruca:


if the world will let Israel be and allow it to solve its problem, they will end all this in months.
Biden should cut support, No problem but then Israel can use their Bigger bombs and solve the Gaza, Yemen, Syria, Iraq, and Iran problems.
anyone who wants to oppose should join the terrorists.

If they haven't been able to solve the problem will all the ammunition they've been given, the tap should be shut.

Israel can use its bigger bombs. They have a nuke.
All 100% controlled by Israelis.
They can f*ck around. Then we'll move to the finding out phase.

-Lord
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:04am On Jul 28
budaatum:


Lol Bem. Isn't that why we voters must do our due diligence? Some of us here are anti-dump just because our due diligence suggests we should be. He says he isn't going to Project25, but some of us do not believe him. Besides, Tinubu said he would continue where Buhari left off, which he didn't need to say since we already knew he likely would since they are of the same party, and since most cried through bubu's 8 years, I'd wonder why they think they'd rejoice now Tinubu has taken over.

Labour Party is leftish, and more pro-immigrant than most parties here in UK, and anyone who does not know they are must not live here as a good friend of ours here reminds us constantly, or just hasn't done their research, or believed Keir Starmer when he said he would reduce immigration that we know we need.

Voters don't do due diligence especially when you have a media that controls their decisions.
which due diligence that made you support Buhari for 2 terms?
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 1:08am On Jul 28
VP Harris will choose her running mate by August 7
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:10am On Jul 28
LordAdam16:


If they haven't been able to solve the problem will all the ammunition they've been given, the tap should be shut.

Israel can use its bigger bombs. They have a nuke.
All 100% controlled by Israelis.
They can f*ck around. Then we'll move to the finding out phase.

-Lord

Well, that is because their hands are tied
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:11am On Jul 28
PDPGuy:
VP Harris will choose her running mate by August 7
Whoopi will make a good candidate
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:44am On Jul 28
bemeruca:


Voters don't do due diligence especially when you have a media that controls their decisions.
which due diligence that made you support Buhari for 2 terms?

Nigerians not doing due diligence made me hope Nigerians elect buhari. If you vote with your eyes closed you deserve whatever suffer they dish you.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 1:45am On Jul 28
bemeruca:


See the context.

They must want immigrants so much to spend that amount welcoming them.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:47am On Jul 28
budaatum:


Nigerians not doing due diligence made me hope Nigerians elect buhari. If you vote with your eyes closed you deserve whatever suffer they dish you.

so how come you support Buhari twice for election? you did not care that he was a mastermind who overthrew a president with a coup in the past.

this is also different from the reason you gave before grin
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 1:48am On Jul 28
budaatum:


They must want immigrants so much to spend that amount welcoming them.

lmao.

they should continue feeding them.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ijebosb: 1:56am On Jul 28
LordAdam16:


How is 12 - 10 = 5, f**l?
How is saying 12 - 10 is not 5 right wing propaganda, m*ron?

THE POLLS ASKED THE SAME QUESTION.
THE POLLS ASKED THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT 24 HOURS APART.

Explain why a poll asking the same question about 24 hours apart has an 8 point up swing, pinh**d?
EIGHT POINTS in 24 HOURS!

-Lord

Seems like someone really really doesn't understand polling.

This poll ASKED THE SAME QUESTION(lol) and surprise surprise, this poll isn't too far off (Harris has a 1 point lead) from that poll that changed by EIGHT POINTS in 24 HOURS taken 24 hours after Biden dropped out that you kept talking(spamming) about.

Hopefully you've learned something.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:09am On Jul 28
bemeruca:


lmao.

they should continue feeding them.
You must think Germans are stupid or generous, and can not imagine they would spend that amount of money because they derive benefit from the immigrants they welcome and spend it on settling.

Labour-related immigration has a positive effect on production potential in two ways: firstly, immigration raises the number of workers and more goods and services can be produced. Secondly, ongoing studies have shown that migrants who come to find work are better qualified than national workers and consequently raise work productivity.

Given the low birth rates, the younger people in Germany cannot replace their parents' generation quantitively. Because they are typically younger than the average German, immigrants could close this demographic gap by remaining on the German labour market for a long time to come, palliating the shortage of qualified workers and contributing to prosperity and economic success, if they have the suitable qualifications.

https://www.make-it-in-germany.com/en/living-in-germany/discover-germany/immigration
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by budaatum: 2:11am On Jul 28
bemeruca:


so how come you support Buhari twice for election? you did not care that he was a mastermind who overthrew a president with a coup in the past.

this is also different from the reason you gave before grin

Nigerians who elected him did not seem to mind. Personally, I hoped he would throw corrupt people in jail for 200 years like he did when he was head of state, but I did not reckon democracy would tie his hands if he wanted to.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PDPGuy: 2:53am On Jul 28
bemeruca:

Whoopi will make a good candidate
You think so 🤣
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 2:59am On Jul 28
budaatum:

You must think Germans are stupid or generous, and can not imagine they would spend that amount of money because they derive benefit from the immigrants they welcome and spend it on settling.





Doctors,
Engineers,
Construction workers like I see here in the starts (south Americans),
Healthcare workers like the Nigerians moving to UK.
IT, like the Asians (Chinese and Indians)
all are welcome... but the ones causing billions of taxpayers' money that I don't support at all are the economic migrants who go to Europe through Boats and who cross the Mexican border illegally. the ones who work, pay taxes, and feed themselves. The government does not need to spend billions feeding them.

There are some legit Asylum seekers but then again, all the economic migrants who get to Europe are claiming asylum.
suppose the EU follows the asylum rules. these should not be happening. The Middle Eastern world cannot believe what they are seeing. Normally they are supposed to take these people but aproko don change that.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by bemeruca: 3:01am On Jul 28
PDPGuy:

You think so 🤣

I am not kidding. Well, the Election should be neck and neck. trump could have picked 50 cent to secure the whole black vote, Kamala should have responded by grabbing the blacks back since she is not an African American by selecting Whoopi.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 1:27pm On Jul 28
Recent National Polling and Blue Wall States.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by IjeBos(m): 1:28pm On Jul 28
bemeruca:


I am not kidding. Well, the Election should be neck and neck. trump could have picked 50 cent to secure the whole black vote, Kamala should have responded by grabbing the blacks back since she is not an African American by selecting Whoopi.

This is the type of post you'd see on the Conservative Treehouse.

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