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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:23pm On Jul 14, 2013
yeah i was really impressed.he is one for d future,however there might be some problems finding his best position.he is not a winger in my opinion and better in attacking midfield with 2 minders behind him
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by montelik(m): 10:26pm On Jul 14, 2013
elampiro: Andnan Januzaj. This was how CR7, Neymar and Giggs started. This guy will rule Old Trafford. When I watched him today I told myself he will be great. He was every where trying out great things.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYc_BwbtY4E

People shouldn't kill this boy with hype. I have seen numerous United youngster set the world alight in preseason/reserves, yet never make the grade e.g Mad Timms, Frazier Campbell, Nardiello.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:28pm On Jul 14, 2013
aaahhh daniel nardiello! LOL.
i agree with u.he is one for d future though wit d right coaching and management.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:38pm On Jul 14, 2013
bt serzly, is it dt we cant sign playrs dt interest oda big clubs, or wot exactly is d problem??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by montelik(m): 10:46pm On Jul 14, 2013
dademola: bt serzly, is it dt we cant sign playrs dt interest oda big clubs, or wot exactly is d problem??

It is that we have taken an oath that we will not invest in our central midfield. Won't be surprised to see us shell a significant sum on another striker, even though we have gaping holes in central midfield.

Since 2008 we have not signed a single central midfielder, yet during the intervening period we have signed goalies, full backs, center backs, wingers, strikers, every position but central midfield.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 10:48pm On Jul 14, 2013
afrodoc: LOL i knew u would rate Wilshere last.
i would say Gotze,Thiago,Oscar,Isco,Wilshere,Gundogan and Kroos.
Kroos last cos i believe his progress will slow down at Bayern now wit all d competition for places.
Gundogan and Wilshere r quite similar but one is a bit more dynamic than d other.


Wilshere lacks the silky touches of the rest . He plays more with "agidi" and what we call "Egun-ori" Gundogan is more silky with his touches

Kroos has always been challenged for his spot and comes tops. Last yr if not for his injury vs Juve Roben might never see the field
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 10:49pm On Jul 14, 2013
dademola: bt serzly, is it dt we cant sign playrs dt interest oda big clubs, or wot exactly is d problem??
More interested in finding sponsorship deals.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:50pm On Jul 14, 2013
dademola: bt serzly, is it dt we cant sign playrs dt interest oda big clubs, or wot exactly is d problem??
its because we have a certain Januzaj & Zaha who have both shown promises.. More also the ever reliable Giggs still tearing them apart.. In Moyes We Trust grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 10:53pm On Jul 14, 2013
elampiro:

If a 25 years old will solve Manchester United midfield good. Leave the age. Put Thiago and Paulinho, I will pick Paulinho because he isn't going to wait to mature. He is there already commanding.

WHo cares if its a 70yr old that would solve Man Utd problem.

My issue is you calling a 25yr old a young player? At his age he should already be at his peak. Thiago has been ready for a while but he has a legend in front of him called Xavi. Thiago at 80% of clubs would run their midfield.

Paulinho lets see how he fares at Spurs. How many players have been icons in South America and flopped massively in Europe.

Europe is still waiting for Robinho, Pato to dazzle, How did Kleberson at Man Utd, Denilson (Arsenal and that of Betis) fare

Was that not the same way Kleberson dazzled at the world cup for Brazil before flopping massively for the same Man Utd
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 10:59pm On Jul 14, 2013
dayokanu:

Wilshere lacks the silky touches of the rest . He plays more with "agidi" and what we call "Egun-ori" Gundogan is more silky with his touches

Kroos has always been challenged for his spot and comes tops. Last yr if not for his injury vs Juve Roben might never see the field

LMAO at agidi and egun-ori.point well taken and i agree that wilshere is less silky but sometimes agidi pays.
kroos wasnt competing with players like gotze and thiago who are both younger and most likely better than him.
the bayern midfield now is much better than 3yrs ago. it is that midfield MINUS some poor outsiders PLUS gustavo,javi martinez,gotze and thiago
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 11:07pm On Jul 14, 2013
-------Neuer----

-Lahm--Martinez--Dante--Alaba

----Schweini-

---Thiago---Kroos

Gotze--Muller---Robbery

We are so stacked we can field a first 11 of midfielders alone

-----Neuer
Can Martinez Gustavo
Robben Schweinsteiger Thiago/Kroos Ribery
Shaqiri Muller Gotze

We even have one substitute
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:11pm On Jul 14, 2013
enjoy na ur time
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:12pm On Jul 14, 2013
Ogbeche77: its because we have a certain Januzaj & Zaha who have both shown promises.. More also the ever reliable Giggs still tearing them apart.. In Moyes We Trust grin grin
cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by A40(m): 11:13pm On Jul 14, 2013
What's happening with Utd tho? I remember when most of us had more or less assumed Thiago was Old Trafford bound. Its either Moyes is ok with the present squad or there isn't that much money to spend

afrodoc: LOL i knew u would rate Wilshere last.
i would say Gotze,Thiago,Oscar,Isco,Wilshere,Gundogan and Kroos.
Kroos last cos i believe his progress will slow down at Bayern now wit all d competition for places.
Gundogan and Wilshere r quite similar but one is a bit more dynamic than d other.

Gundogan,Isco,Thiago and Wilshere over Kroos?? That's a pretty curious choice I don't think any of these ninjas are as good as Kroos. Barring favoritism I don't think Thiago is a walk-on to that team but let's see how it goes
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 11:15pm On Jul 14, 2013
afrodoc: LMAO at agidi and egun-ori.point well taken and i agree that wilshere is less silky but sometimes agidi pays.
kroos wasnt competing with players like gotze and thiago who are both younger and most likely better than him.
the bayern midfield now is much better than 3yrs ago. it is that midfield MINUS some poor outsiders PLUS gustavo,javi martinez,gotze and thiago

No one would pay a premium for "Puri" and "Egun Ori" football, You can pay 20,000 for Tresor Mputu, Lokondo Mpenza or Taiye Taiwo to give you that.

Wilshere is just another hype of the English media. Like Ramsey.

We have weeded out a lot of mediocres like Pranjic, Tymoschuk etc. Gustavo would also have his use especially in games we need to destroy a silky 10 like Ozil.

Man Utd can tempt someone from Madrid. Ozil, Modric, Kaka, Isco, Ilarramendi, Di Maria. Someone might leave

And dont worry about what some ppl call leftovers or unwanted players. Robben , Sneijder etc have been called that and won the CL before the stars that replaced them at Madrid
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 11:16pm On Jul 14, 2013
dayokanu: -------Neuer----

-Lahm--Martinez--Dante--Alaba

----Schweini-

---Thiago---Kroos

Gotze--Muller---Robbery

We are so stacked we can field a first 11 of midfielders alone

-----Neuer
Can Martinez Gustavo
Robben Schweinsteiger Thiago/Kroos Ribery
Shaqiri Muller Gotze

We even have one substitute
For you mind, you can only use 5 at most + there's no guarantee you will eliminate Manchester United *all things being equal* tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:16pm On Jul 14, 2013
dayokanu:

WHo cares if its a 70yr old that would solve Man Utd problem.

My issue is you calling a 25yr old a young player? At his age he should already be at his peak. Thiago has been ready for a while but he has a legend in front of him called Xavi. Thiago at 80% of clubs would run their midfield.

Paulinho lets see how he fares at Spurs. How many players have been icons in South America and flopped massively in Europe.

Europe is still waiting for Robinho, Pato to dazzle, How did Kleberson at Man Utd, Denilson (Arsenal and that of Betis) fare

Was that not the same way Kleberson dazzled at the world cup for Brazil before flopping massively for the same Man Utd

So what makes you believe that Thiago cannot flop? Has he run a full season?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:18pm On Jul 14, 2013
A-40:
What's happening with Utd tho? I remember when most of us had more or less assumed Thiago was Old Trafford bound. Its either Moyes is ok with the present squad or there isn't that much money to spend


Gundogan,Isco,Thiago and Wilshere over Kroos?? That's a pretty curious choice I don't think any of these ninjas are as good as Kroos. Barring favoritism I don't think Thiago is a walk-on to that team but let's see how it goes

that list is a tough one to rank i accept.i wont rily argue either way this is one of the best crops of young midfielders football has been blessed with BUT i think Gotze and Thiago are the best of the lot.
for thiago u cant bar favoritism cos we r all human and remember that promises have already been made concerning his chances of making next year's world cup
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:18pm On Jul 14, 2013
dayokanu: -------Neuer----

-Lahm--Martinez--Dante--Alaba

----Schweini-

---Thiago---Kroos

Gotze--Muller---Robbery

We are so stacked we can field a first 11 of midfielders alone

-----Neuer
Can Martinez Gustavo
Robben Schweinsteiger Thiago/Kroos Ribery
Shaqiri Muller Gotze

We even have one substitute

I didn't know you have an armed robber in your line up. Lol.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 11:21pm On Jul 14, 2013
A-40:
What's happening with Utd tho? I remember when most of us had more or less assumed Thiago was Old Trafford bound. Its either Moyes is ok with the present squad or there isn't that much money to spend

We simply bitchslapped Man Utd to Thiago.
It was even small money 20m for a player like Thiago is a steal. If Barca had managed him well his buyout clause would have been 90m.

Thiago we bought for 20m can go for 35 in a few months. Illaramendi just sold for 38m Its because Man Utd is no longer seen as a top destination, Gone were the days players dreamt of playing for Ferguson, Now who would want to play for David mudafucking Moyes?? Thats why I thought the Moyes signing was faulty.


Gundogan,Isco,Thiago and Wilshere over Kroos?? That's a pretty curious choice I don't think any of these ninjas are as good as Kroos. Barring favoritism I don't think Thiago is a walk-on to that team but let's see how it goes

Kroos has always been an effective possesion weapon many people underrate and I think he is better than many players of his age
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:24pm On Jul 14, 2013
dayokanu:

No one would pay a premium for "Puri" and "Egun Ori" football, You can pay 20,000 for Tresor Mputu, Lokondo Mpenza or Taiye Taiwo to give you that.

Wilshere is just another hype of the English media. Like Ramsey.

We have weeded out a lot of mediocres like Pranjic, Tymoschuk etc. Gustavo would also have his use especially in games we need to destroy a silky 10 like Ozil.

Man Utd can tempt someone from Madrid. Ozil, Modric, Kaka, Isco, Ilarramendi, Di Maria. Someone might leave

And dont worry about what some ppl call leftovers or unwanted players. Robben , Sneijder etc have been called that and won the CL before the stars that replaced them at Madrid

haa ramsey na player? abeg how ebute meta take resemble nantucket? pls oo
i know the brits hype their players however wilshere has better close control than d average english player and actually is a pretty decent passer wit good vision
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 11:25pm On Jul 14, 2013
SailorXY:
For you mind, you can only use 5 at most + there's no guarantee you will eliminate Manchester United *all things being equal* tongue

The luxury of substitution without a drop in quality is what most clubs cant afford. And rotate them at will and steal beasting every game
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:28pm On Jul 14, 2013
Oscar has won at junior level and now at senior level. Yet people believe Thiago is more talented. Thiago can't make first team in Spain. Oscar is a senior player in Brazil that crushed Spain. Thiago can't make first team in Barca, Oscar is a regular for Chelsea. Thiago is over hyped and over rated. He is just a junior player, a road Oscar has crossed already.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitlad: 11:29pm On Jul 14, 2013
dayokanu:

Wilshere lacks the silky touches of the rest . He plays more with "agidi" and what we call "Egun-ori" Gundogan is more silky with his touches

Kroos has always been challenged for his spot and comes tops. Last yr if not for his injury vs Juve Roben might never see the field

And Bayern might not have won the match/tie. It was when Robben came on that Bayern took full control and exerted their authority in that game!

Toni Kroos is shït in the pantheon of young midfielders that abound in the game today!




And why are you all forgetting a certain Illarramendi who would definitely piss on all the young midfielders y'all are creaming over?
That lad is the reason Sociedad are in the Champs League - He was the most influential young player for his club in the past season. Not one of these boys you are listing comes close to the kinda immense impact he had on his team.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 11:29pm On Jul 14, 2013
elampiro:

So what makes you believe that Thiago cannot flop? Has he run a full season?

Anyone who has seen Thiago would know he is a born player. He has dominated under age football in Spain and Only Xavi was the reason he hasnt seen much play time

Juup Heyncenes 2 yrs ago already called Thiago and Kroos the biggest midfield talents in Europe
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 11:30pm On Jul 14, 2013
nitlad:

And Bayern might not have won the match/tie. It was when Robben came on that Bayern took full control and exerted their authority in that game!

Toni Kroos is shït in the pantheon of young midfielders that abound in the game today!

And why are you all forgetting a certain Illarramendi who would definitely piss on all the young midfielders y'all are creaming over?
That lad is the reason Sociedad are in the Champs League - He was the most influential young player for his club in the past season. Not one of these boys you are listing comes close to the kinda immense impact he had on his team.

Was Illaramendi not in the Spanish U-21 team where Thiago was pissing in everyones nostrils?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 11:31pm On Jul 14, 2013
elampiro: Oscar has won at junior level and now at senior level. Yet people believe Thiago is more talented. Thiago can't make first team in Spain. Oscar is a senior player in Brazil that crushed Spain. Thiago can't make first team in Barca, Oscar is a regular for Chelsea. Thiago is over hyped and over rated. He is just a junior player, a road Oscar has crossed already.

Would Oscar make the Barcelona team?

Oscar cant even make the Bayern team nor the Madrid team

Oscar ko De la Hoya ni
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:34pm On Jul 14, 2013
dayokanu:

Anyone who has seen Thiago would know he is a born player. He has dominated under age football in Spain and Only Xavi was the reason he hasnt seen much play time

Juup Heyncenes 2 yrs ago already called Thiago and Kroos the biggest midfield talents in Europe


It's still not a guarantee he can't flop. If he were an English player people will be shouting overhype, blablabla. France had a certain talent at U-17 who was to rule Europe but he never did. Football is not mathematics.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 11:37pm On Jul 14, 2013
dayokanu:

Would Oscar make the Barcelona team?

Oscar cant even make the Bayern team nor the Madrid team

Oscar ko De la Hoya ni

Will Thiago make Chelsea team? No.

Was it not Thiago that was rumoured to be fighting for appearance clause while United approached (If true though)?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dayokanu(m): 11:37pm On Jul 14, 2013
elampiro: It's still not a guarantee he can't flop. If he were a English player people will be shouting overhype, blablabla. France had a certain talent at U-17 who was to rule Europe but he. Never did. Football is not mathematics.

The level Thiago plays right now is better than what 70% of matured midfielders can offer, If he improves he would even be better

[size=16pt]Now Man Utd fans who is your daddy?[/size]
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:38pm On Jul 14, 2013
see roforofo lol.
@ nitlad i no forget ilaramendi o,just that they r too many to mention.like i said earlier a very good generation of young gifted midfileders.i saw a few in the just concluded under 20 world cup in turkey(quintero at 20yrs and de arascaeta at 19yrs).rily good footballers
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc(m): 11:40pm On Jul 14, 2013
add pogba,kondogbia etc

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