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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 1:41pm On Apr 02, 2015
Born2berich:
How dividend payment works by Ugodre Obi-Chukwu
If you purchased shares of a company after the register is closed (ex-div date) you will not receive dividends. The ex-div date is the cut-off date for payment of dividend and also the date upon which the share price trades less the amount of dividend per share that will be paid. As such, when a company declares dividends it usually accompanies such announcement with a date for closure of register. Therefore, the shareholders that will get dividends are those whose names appear on the register on or before the date of closure of register. If you purchase shares after the register is closed (ex-div) you will not be paid dividends for that period.

Can you use an example?

For example, a company can announce proposed dividend on February 13 2014, closure of register for March 14 2014 and pay dividends April 4th 2014. Those who bought or own shares in the company on or before March 14th 2014 will qualify for dividends. Therefore if you buy shares in the company after March 14, you will not qualify for that dividend. The period between March 14th and April 4th is the ex-div period as such March 14th is when the share price will be “marked down”.
http://www.punchng.com/business/am-business/how-dividend-payment-works/

The bold is actually not true (in all cases). We need to properly understand dividend dates so as not to miss out on dividend after purchasing a stock for dividend purpose. I noticed that in Naija, the date of closure is assumed to be the ex-dividend date by most coys. Ex-dividend date is actually the date on or after which a stock trades ex-dividend (without dividend). In the NSE, this date is rarely indicated in coys financial reports. Only few (sincere) companies will mention it clearly in their reports. If you're buying a stock for dividend purpose you must put settlement date into consideration (the date on which the transaction gets completed). Remember if you buy a stock, the T+3 trading rule says you must allow 3 business days for the transaction to be finalized (this is when you become the official owner of the stock). The bottom line is, if the closure date is 30th, you have to buy the stock on or before 27th to officially qualify for dividends. However, some companies may allow investors who bought a day or two before the closure date to qualify (but this must be clearly stated in their reports). It is better to use dates in the company's report to check for divided qualification. Some of the dates published on NSE website are misleading. Companies that want to be transparent will use a date range as closure date to be published on the NSE website (e.g 1st – 5th). This is my own understanding of dividend dates.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pdozie: 1:45pm On Apr 02, 2015
@House - CCNN dividend of 35k is it a good omen or not?
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 1:50pm On Apr 02, 2015
megainvest:
FBNH is one of the most watched stocks right now. Good news will send it 10% up easily and a bad one 10% down easily. We already know that the performance from Q3 is good. The question is what corporate action will be taken on FBNH. This is because of the effect of new policies on the bank. I expect FBNH to give a good bonus even if the dividend is not up to N1.

Bonus ke? Join their current OS? Maybe 1 for 20. I will be surprised if they give 1 for 10.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by shinaboy: 1:51pm On Apr 02, 2015
Rooneyboy:

This morgan itrade, I read where u wrote about them being the best we have @ the moment, how do I get to register under their platform , are they in all states of the federation.
My current location is enugu, do they have a presence here, I earnestly do await ur reply .

Morgan iTrade is present wherever there is internet grin grin grin. You just need to set up an account with them at www.morgancapital.com
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Kagame: 1:55pm On Apr 02, 2015
carpenter:


I have never really understood the theory of bonuses besides the feel good factor which you get by having more units. I would rather have less units as long as the value is the same as twice that number. Anyone care to school me a bit?

Just like yourself,I am never a fan of bonuses. Traders might feel the same way too. Huge OS makes price movements a bit sluggish and sometimes makes nonsense of your holdings if the company experiences sluggish growth or have a low ROE in relation to its OS.

I feel some coys do that to keep the price within the psychological range of attraction for retails investors who equate low prices to cheap valuation.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by pdozie: 1:56pm On Apr 02, 2015
Meristem still down. But if you want to excute any mandate, just send them a mail - contact@meristemng.com
I send them mine via email and they worked on it within 3 minutes (Not bad)

I've entered the Transcrop Bus and Flourmill too (As usual, not a recommendation - The choice is always yours)
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by megainvest: 2:00pm On Apr 02, 2015
Elai147:


Bonus ke? Join their current OS? Maybe 1 for 20. I will be surprised if they give 1 for 10.

Seriously, I agree with you but, I am only trying to guess what the board has in mind like everyone else. What is the implication of this statement from that podcast:

We intend to effectively manage dividend pay-out and increase retention as a means of capital management, given so many factors i.e. lack of debt in market, liquidity in the market - FBNH GM

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 2:02pm On Apr 02, 2015
pdozie:
Meristem still down. But if you want to excute any mandate, just send them a mail - contact@meristemng.com
I send them mine via email and they worked on it within 3 minutes (Not bad)

I've entered the Transcrop Bus and Flourmill too (As usual, not a recommendation - The choice is always yours)

Meristem is working now
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Chibuking81(m): 2:06pm On Apr 02, 2015
Rooneyboy:


This morgan itrade, I read where u wrote about them being the best we have @ the moment, how do I get to register under their platform , are they in all states of the federation.

My current location is enugu, do they have a presence here, I earnestly do await ur reply ..
their head office is in Lagos, if you open account with them, you can transact business with them anywhere, even in your bedroom, even inside the pit, for now they are the best.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Aks(m): 2:10pm On Apr 02, 2015
I hope some guys are not trapped especially on a stock i termed LOW VOLATILITY @ Eterna. If you are not for long term, I'll advise you claim your profit now. The reason why most stocks have not dropped below close price of yesterday is because of the max BID data on the stocks @ the start of trade today. NB: by tuesday, most guys will understand the full meaning of a free fall on most of the stocks.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Chibuking81(m): 2:11pm On Apr 02, 2015
Pls brothers and sisters in the lord, between FBNH at #9.54 and Oando at #17.55 which of them has a better entering.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by nastydamus(m): 2:11pm On Apr 02, 2015
Aks:
I hope some guys are not trapped especially on a stock i termed LOW VOLATILITY @ Eterna. If you are not for long term, I'll advise you claim your profit now. The reason why most stocks have not dropped below close price of yesterday is because of the max BID data on the stocks @ the start of trade today. NB: by tuesday, most guys will understand the full meaning of a free fall on most of the stocks.

You saying it's time to JO, so soon?

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Chibuking81(m): 2:11pm On Apr 02, 2015
Pls brothers and sisters in the lord, between FBNH at #9.54 and Oando at #17.55 which of them has a better entering price?.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 2:12pm On Apr 02, 2015
carpenter:


I have never really understood the theory of bonuses besides the feel good factor which you get by having more units. I would rather have less units as long as the value is the same as twice that number. Anyone care to school me a bit?

You are right. Not all bonuses are good deals. Sometimes it pays more to take advantage of capital appreciation from the dividend rally and forget the bonus. If a company declares dividend and bonus and I'm in for short/mid term, I usually wait until a day before closure date (when the stock will be marked down for bonus and dividend) to see how much I can gain on capital appreciation. After a guesstimate of the possible mark down price and a consideration on the strength of the coy to go back to its previous trading price, I make my decision to sell or hold.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by angelo82: 2:13pm On Apr 02, 2015
I think FBNH is still a better buy option than Oando............


Chibuking81:
Pls brothers and sisters in the lord, between FBNH at #9.54 and Oando at #17.55 which of them has a better entering price?.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Aks(m): 2:19pm On Apr 02, 2015
Chibuking81:
Pls brothers and sisters in the lord, between FBNH at #9.54 and Oando at #17.55 which of them has a better entering.
Please stay action!!

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Chibuking81(m): 2:19pm On Apr 02, 2015
angelo82:
I think FBNH is still a better buy option than Oando............


ok thanks.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 2:20pm On Apr 02, 2015
Aks:
I hope some guys are not trapped especially on a stock i termed LOW VOLATILITY @ Eterna. If you are not for long term, I'll advise you claim your profit now. The reason why most stocks have not dropped below close price of yesterday is because of the max BID data on the stocks @ the start of trade today. NB: by tuesday, most guys will understand the full meaning of a free fall on most of the stocks.

Sir, i agree with you on low volatility stocks but on the other hand, i guess it is too early to sell looking at some good stocks with strong fundamentals and selling below their book value. And it will be determined on the price each traders or investors buy such stocks. It is just my own opinion not a recommendation sha grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by EDUECO(m): 2:22pm On Apr 02, 2015
Brothers and Sisters in fellowship,does filled means that buy transaction on Morgan's iTrade is successful? Please,attend to my humble question.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Primetech(m): 2:23pm On Apr 02, 2015
Just loaded on Transcorp now. I hope it's going to payoff.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 2:28pm On Apr 02, 2015
megainvest:


Seriously, I agree with you but, I am only trying to guess what the board has in mind like everyone else. What is the implication of this statement from that podcast:

We intend to effectively manage dividend pay-out and increase retention as a means of capital management, given so many factors i.e. lack of debt in market, liquidity in the market - FBNH GM

You may not be far from the truth. They've given a clear indication that we should not expect a bumper dividend. They may approve a meager dividend and use bonus of 1 for 20 to appease the gods grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by carpenter(m): 2:42pm On Apr 02, 2015
Elai147:


You are right. Not all bonuses are good deals. Sometimes it pays more to take advantage of capital appreciation from the dividend rally and forget the bonus. If a company declares dividend and bonus and I'm in for short/mid term, I usually wait until a day before closure date (when the stock will be marked down for bonus and dividend) to see how much I can gain on capital appreciation. After a guesstimate of the possible mark down price and a consideration on the strength of the coy to go back to its previous trading price, I make my decision to sell or hold.

You seem to have been missing in action for a while in this forum grin

I can even understand dividends, it gives me an opportunity to get some of my money back to meet other needs besides the feel good factor. As for bonuses, it just favours the company because more investors and speculators might be tempted to buy more at lower values.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Agbalowomeri: 2:44pm On Apr 02, 2015
Aks:
I hope some guys are not trapped especially on a stock i termed LOW VOLATILITY @ Eterna. If you are not for long term, I'll advise you claim your profit now. The reason why most stocks have not dropped below close price of yesterday is because of the max BID data on the stocks @ the start of trade today. NB: by tuesday, most guys will understand the full meaning of a free fall on most of the stocks.

Bros I laugh in spanish. This journey is a marathon na. Many stock will enter consolidation mode sometimes next week before we move again. We will get to the peak in July

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 2:45pm On Apr 02, 2015
bigjay01:


Please listen to that podcast then come back and tell us what you make of it.

Please note that they may also change their mind 'cos of the postponement by CBN of the implementation of Basel[b]X[/b] (where X is II or III, I am not sure) capital adequacy requirements.

I listened to the conference call and i have to agree with you that they might not pay up to what we expect. From the response given to a guy's question, they said in terms of dividend, it is stated that they will increased retention on capital from retain earnings..and will capitalize all, if not most of the profit for the nine months...what ever dividned paid will be based will be determined after the full year audit.

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 2:45pm On Apr 02, 2015
pdozie:
@House - CCNN dividend of 35k is it a good omen or not?

It's a 50% cut from their FY'13 declared dividend which was 70k. I wanted to buy for short term dividend rally but opted out when I saw 35k on their report grin. The decision is yours.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by UrennaNkoli(f): 2:47pm On Apr 02, 2015
Elai147:


It's a 50% cut from their FY'13 declared dividend which was 70k. I wanted to buy for short term dividend rally but opted out when I saw 35k on their report grin. The decision is yours.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 2:50pm On Apr 02, 2015
EDUECO:
Brothers and Sisters in fellowship,does filled means that buy transaction on Morgan's iTrade is successful? Please,attend to my humble question.

Once it is green and shows filled it is successful

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by natruetalk: 2:51pm On Apr 02, 2015
Aks:
I hope some guys are not trapped especially on a stock i termed LOW VOLATILITY @ Eterna. If you are not for long term, I'll advise you claim your profit now. The reason why most stocks have not dropped below close price of yesterday is because of the max BID data on the stocks @ the start of trade today. NB: by tuesday, most guys will understand the full meaning of a free fall on most of the stocks.

bros don't worry about d stock, d journey still far, what happen 2day happen across board. prefer to remain here than buying Transport dt struggling 4 operational cash as at Q3 grin

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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Born2berich: 2:51pm On Apr 02, 2015
Elai147:


It's a 50% cut from their FY'13 declared dividend which was 70k. I wanted to buy for short term dividend rally but opted out when I saw 35k on their report grin. The decision is yours.

CCNN only released corporate actions. i havent seen their result or did i miss it.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Elai147: 2:53pm On Apr 02, 2015
carpenter:


You seem to have been missing in action for a while in this forum grin

I can even understand dividends, it gives me an opportunity to get some of my money back to meet other needs besides the feel good factor. As for bonuses, it just favours the company because more investors and speculators might be tempted to buy more at lower values.

My oga na election things jare...

The bonus issue can be very good too especially if you are in for long term. Accumulating bonuses and dividends over the years will get you your invested capital back in a short time.
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 2:53pm On Apr 02, 2015
Born2berich:


CCNN only released corporate actions. i havent seen their result or did i miss it.

http://www.nse.com.ng/Financial_NewsDocs/8999_CCNN_PLC_AUDITED_ACC_DEC_2014_FINANCIAL_STATEMENTS_MARCH_2015.pdf
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by natruetalk: 2:54pm On Apr 02, 2015
natruetalk:


bros don't worry about d stock, d journey still far, what happen 2day happen across board. prefer to remain here than buying Transport dt struggling 4 operational cash as at Q3 grin

will be surprise if transcorp pay any juicy dividend as pple expect lipsrsealed

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