A nation with 40,000 land troop, ten thousand airforce personal and 7,000 Naval personal. Will bring 3000 troops to a country of 150,000 land troops, 10,000 airforce personal and with a navy with ships Dat can detect your subs and sink them. helicopters, ASW and statewide. Fool

iblawi:
A nation with 40,000 land troop, ten thousand airforce personal and 7,000 Naval personal. Will bring 3000 troops to a country of over 150,000 land troops, 10,000 airforce personal and with a navy with ships Dat can detect your subs and sink them. helicopters, ASW and satellite. Fools your Navy is not better because you have subs we have enough to take care of u. You are in no way a treat don't even have a landing ship. Only your 4frigate and 3subs are new all your other ships are as old as ARADU. ARADU will sink them with other ships we have more ships Dan u do. Remember we have 3 Frigate too with OPVs Dat are not scared of your subs. Your Frigate too have no BVR capability. And u are claiming u Will come to Nigeria with them we will roast you like fowl. You are thinking like Turkey.

Aradu wont do anything

Its NON-OPERATIONAL

BVR capability? What are you referring to SAM or ASM?

You have ZERO operational ASW platforms

iblawi:
A nation with 40,000 land troop, ten thousand airforce personal and 7,000 Naval personal. Will bring 3000 troops to a country of over 150,000 land troops, 10,000 airforce personal and with a navy with ships Dat can detect your subs and sink them. helicopters, ASW and satellite. Fools your Navy is not better because you have subs we have enough to take care of u. You are in no way a treat don't even have a landing ship. Only your 4frigate and 3subs are new all your other ships are as old as ARADU. ARADU will sink them with other ships we have more ships Dan u do. Remember we have 3 Frigate too with OPVs Dat are not scared of your subs. Your Frigate too have no BVR capability. And u are claiming u Will come to Nigeria with them we will roast you like fowl. You are thinking like Turkey.

Aradu wont do anything

Its NON-OPERATIONAL

BVR capability? What are you referring to SAM or ASM?

iblawi:
A nation with 40,000 land troop, ten thousand airforce personal and 7,000 Naval personal. Will bring 3000 troops to a country of 150,000 land troops, 10,000 airforce personal and with a navy with ships Dat can detect your subs and sink them. helicopters, ASW and statewide. Fool

Nope is 50 000 land troops who are highly equipped with technologically advanced weaponry. Have own modest defence industry and entirely not dependent on foreign weapons.

Nigeria has almost 80 000 troops in total.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigerian_Armed_Forces

South African Air force.

South African Navy.

SA Army.

mzilakazi:
South African Navy.

so dis is what you will bring to Nigeria and leave your homes open. I know it's all you have.

ssaengine:
Marlin unguided flight tests to start late this year or earlier next year. Project funded by Denel and the South African Air Force. To give the SAAF a BVR capability of 100km. The relative quick speed of this project is due to certain sub-components coming off other missile projects such as Umkhonto and A-Darter.

Again cements South Africa's stance of prefering to develop projects which they deemed strategic in-house (or with a single trusted partner), rather than having to rely on foreign sources.

....but your Gripen jet itself is a foreign imported product.....or you built the jet fighter ?

Marlin missile is still in dream stage until it enters service in 2020.

If you did not buy Gripen jet from Europe, how will you launch your missile?
.

jln115:


1. Why do we need an Air arm when we have 22 squadron fulfilling the same role?
2. We never intended to fit our Valours with BVR missiles, as it was seen as to offensive, but that said if the need arises will just fit the marlin missile. FYI the NN also has 0 BVR capability!
3. Guessing the Charles De Gaulle class, La Fayette class and F1000 Air-Defence class, also have little capability as they use the same combat suit as our Valours.
4. Our Warrior class fulfil our OPV role, P.S we are receiving 3 OPVs((90m+) and 3 IPVs(60m) in the coming 2-3 years.

1. Why does Nigeria need active ASW helicopters and submarines when the current threat is sea piracy alone?

2 and 4. Just as you say South Africa can buy new naval weapons, missiles, and ships, then Nigeria too can buy new frigates with missiles, submarines, and anti-submarine helicopters.....or you think only you have monopoly of buying new weapons?
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patches689:


Are you being serious?

Ok, lets break it down

- Navy with no air arm

4 Lynx helicopters, operational and being used on the frigates constantly

Unlike Nigeria - who have no operational maritime helo's

So, That applies to you and not us

- Navy with no BVR

Valour Class can be fitted as needed. Uhmkonto-E has a range of 60km.

Your navy has no operational "BVR" capable vessels

So, that applies to you and not us

- Naval frigate with littel capacity

Are you being serious?

I dont even know how to respond to this.

I guess, I will start by pointing out that you have no operational frigates

So, that applies to you and not us

- Navy with no OPVs

Well, we have the Warrior Class - which is an OPV.

We also have 4 frigates, 3 subs and a plethora of other vessels that fulfill that function.

We never said we were the best, what we said was that we are better than you.

Your Super Lynx ASW helicopters belong to your air force and they are NOT constantly used by your navy frigates, in fact check 90% of the available Valour frigate photos and notice they are with NO helicopters, because the Lynx is based at the airport, not naval base !

Umkhonto ER missile with BVR 60 km range does not exist anywhere, your frigates max missile range remains 15 km ONLY.

You keep talking about buying new missiles and ships, Nigeria too can buy same weapons, or you think only you have buying ideas ?

Warrior class boats are proved to be IPV or at best MPV by your own defenceweb report, it cannot sail as OPV deep sea, it will sink in heavy waves, your sailors are already being described as diving a boat like a submarine under high sea waves and drinking salt water to vomit later.

We are not saying Nigeria is the best, but you are not better than us beacuse we have lots of equipment you don't have, same way you too have equipment we don't have. Can South Africa put any ATR-42 Surveyor equivalent to sea operations today ? Get it?
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DictatorZAR:


This is SA made and in use in 3 navies worldwide.
Please come back when you produce this

Algeria and Morocco don not produce Umkhonto missile, but their military is far more powerful than yours. Don't even count Nigeria, Ethiopia, etc

mzilakazi:


The late grandfather Arandu is resting in his perfect peace. Please, just allow him to rest in peace.

You are Afraid of NNS Aradu's refit 2015. Better armed than Valour frigates.

mzilakazi:



Is that man not a rebel? He looks like a real rebel.

He looks better than your Angolan trained South African army chief of staff who is actually a freedom fighter ex-rebel heading a conventional army in 2015, an AK-47 brained army General is leading your SANDF

agaugust:


You are Afraid of NNS Aradu's refit 2015. Better armed than Valour frigates.

Arandu can never be recovered and deserves to be parked at the dock somewhere where he will only be useful for museum purposes. Let go of him and refurbish your frigate fleet.

agaugust:


He looks better than your Angolan trained South African army chief of staff who is actually a freedom fighter ex-rebel heading a conventional army in 2015, an AK-47 brained army General is leading your SANDF

Nigerian troops and rebels are just two side of a coin. They all look poor with old wooden butt AK47.

All our foreign trained generals were retrained by SANDF from scratch.

agaugust:


Algeria and Morocco don not produce Umkhonto missile, but their military is far more powerful than yours. Don't even count Nigeria, Ethiopia, etc

All I know is that Nigeria has the weakest military in sub-saharan Africa. Even some of the poor militaries on the continent are helping them to defeat a mere 4000 BH insurgents.

ssaengine:


For many weeks/months/years did Boko Haram drive around in MARKED tanks and armoured vehicles? What took Nigeria so long to atleast ensure that such heavy vehicles are destroyed? You were still waiting for new equipment to arrive from Russia? Any 2nd rate army must have the immediate capability to destroy heavy armour even within 24 hour notice....not wait for equipment to arrive from overseas.

The BH ploys on motorbikes came later on.

Yes Nigerian army reduced Boko Haram from T-55 tanks to mere motor-bike riders. We crushed their armoured vehicle fleet out of existence.

How many years has America and Britain spent fighting Taliban in Afghanistan with no victory? 13 years now, and USA-UK have 100 times better weapons and technology than Nigeria. Yet we AK-47 and Toyota Hilux Nigerian troops have done better than them with their F-16, F-18, A-10, M1A1, Predator, Bradley, TOW, Javelin, Apache, Tornado, Maverick, LITENING, Paveway, Sentinel, etc
.

agaugust:


1. Why does Nigeria need active ASW helicopters and submarines when the current threat is sea piracy alone?

2 and 4. Just as you say South Africa can buy new naval weapons, missiles, and ships, then Nigeria too can buy new frigates with missiles, submarines, and anti-submarine helicopters.....or you think only you have monopoly of buying new weapons?
.

Because that is what navies operate. That is what defines a navy -ready for maritime war.

What will you do if a submarine threat arrives tomorrow?

agaugust:


1. Why does Nigeria need active ASW helicopters and submarines when the current threat is sea piracy alone?

2 and 4. Just as you say South Africa can buy new naval weapons, missiles, and ships, then Nigeria too can buy new frigates with missiles, submarines, and anti-submarine helicopters.....or you think only you have monopoly of buying new weapons?
.

So, why would we need ATR maritime patrol aircraft urgently when our threat is not piracy?

mzilakazi:


Yes that machine is only good for pirates and not even BH. We are still waiting for it to #BringBackOurGirls

Those 300 girls do NOT exist. Show me a photo of 300 girls in captivity....300 girls...

agaugust:


Your Super Lynx ASW helicopters belong to your air force and they are NOT constantly used by your navy frigates, in fact check 90% of the available Valour frigate photos and notice they are with NO helicopters, because the Lynx is based at the airport, not naval base !

Umkhonto ER missile with BVR 60 km range does not exist anywhere, your frigates max missile range remains 15 km ONLY.

You keep talking about buying new missiles and ships, Nigeria too can buy same weapons, or you think only you have buying ideas ?

Warrior class boats are proved to be IPV or at best MPV by your own defenceweb report, it cannot sail as OPV deep sea, it will sink in heavy waves, your sailors are already being described as diving a boat like a submarine under high sea waves and drinking salt water to vomit later.

We are not saying Nigeria is the best, but you are not better than us beacuse we have lots of equipment you don't have, same way you too have equipment we don't have. Can South Africa put any ATR-42 Surveyor equivalent to sea operations today ? Get it?
.

1. SAAF lynx operate with the navy constantly. If a lynx is required they are deployed. Valour Class have hangars, that is where the Lynx lives - dumbass

2. And so?

3. No you cant

4. The report did not say that. Stop wasting my time with empty lies.

5. We are better. Because we have a navy. You have a coast guard. Can you fight maritime war? no! Can we do anti-piracy operations? Yes

Game over

agaugust:


You are Afraid of NNS Aradu's refit 2015. Better armed than Valour frigates.

What re-fit?

the one which has been happening for 7 years?

How do you re-fit a vessel that is stuck on the quay?

agaugust:


Yes Nigerian army reduced Boko Haram from T-55 tanks to mere motor-bike riders. We crushed their armoured vehicle fleet out of existence.

How many years has America and Britain spent fighting Taliban in Afghanistan with no victory? 13 years now, and USA-UK have 100 times better weapons and technology than Nigeria. Yet we AK-47 and Toyota Hilux Nigerian troops have done better than them with their F-16, F-18, A-10, M1A1, Predator, Bradley, TOW, Javelin, Apache, Tornado, Maverick, LITENING, Paveway, Sentinel, etc
.

Look at these men. they look terrible and one has not even fastened his boots and the uniform evidently made from cheap fabric has engulfed their little frail bodies. Jeez.

Nigerian Army and rebels are just two side of a coin.

agaugust:


He looks better than your Angolan trained South African army chief of staff who is actually a freedom fighter ex-rebel heading a conventional army in 2015, an AK-47 brained army General is leading your SANDF

Army cheif who received conventional warfare training in Russia

And was again re-trained by the SANDF

And has risen to the rank he holds through completion of rank associated courses.

Jackass

agaugust:


Yes Nigerian army reduced Boko Haram from T-55 tanks to mere motor-bike riders. We crushed their armoured vehicle fleet out of existence.

How many years has America and Britain spent fighting Taliban in Afghanistan with no victory? 13 years now, and USA-UK have 100 times better weapons and technology than Nigeria. Yet we AK-47 and Toyota Hilux Nigerian troops have done better than them with their F-16, F-18, A-10, M1A1, Predator, Bradley, TOW, Javelin, Apache, Tornado, Maverick, LITENING, Paveway, Sentinel, etc
.

Afghanistan = foreign country

Borno = part of nigeria

NATO has done exceptionally well in Afghanistan.... they are pulling out, so what? Must NATO stay there for 1000 years?

agaugust:


Those 300 girls do NOT exist. Show me a photo of 300 girls in captivity....300 girls...

lol

Pathetic denialism

DictatorZAR:


Ever heard of the Kondor E military sat SA has.

None of your sats are military grade. I also guess you never heard of data link ZA something Nigeria only dreams of. For your ATR I let's what it will do when it is on range of Umkhonto SAM


go do your research bro

SA has only one satellite, and it's NOT military satellite. SIPRI reports it as a mere observation satellite. It's the type used by Russian ministry of defence which is a civilian agency not an army.

One satellite alone is all you have, you go blind when it orbits away from Africa.

Three satellites Nigeria has and many more on order, we can view the whole world from different orbit positions.

ATR-42 has 407 km range radar spying from so far away, so how will your 15 km range Umkhonto missile sh.oot it down?

patches689:


Afghanistan = foreign country

Borno = part of nigeria

NATO has done exceptionally well in Afghanistan.... they are pulling out, so what? Must NATO stay there for 1000 years?

You killed him.

agaugust:


[s]SA has only one satellite, and it's NOT military satellite. SIPRI reports it as a mere observation satellite. It's the type used by Russian ministry of defence which is a civilian agency not an army.

One satellite alone is all you have, you go blind when it orbits away from Africa.

Three satellites Nigeria has and many more on order, we can view the whole world from different orbit positions.

ATR-42 has 407 km range radar spying from so far away, so how will your 15 km range Umkhonto missile sh.oot it down[/s]

1. Kondor-E is a military reconnaissance satellite.

2. You have LITERAL civilian grade satelights - designed for environmental managment and pollution control

3. Ok, cool - your ATR-42 can see the Valour Class... what is it going to do about it?

jln115:

Uhm difference is we can project a force of 3000(inc Armour , Artillery , infantry) and sustain such a force until a larger force arrives, Nigeria can not, we also have by FAR the best C4I2R in Africa meaning we utilize our forces much much more effectively than any other African country. Go do some research on Link ZA, Chaka C2 system, IMPI Blue Force Tracking Device ect ect

Lastly we have the most modern defence force in Africa, which speaks for its self.

Algeria has the most modern defence force in Africa, undisputed champions.

3,000 force from South Africa cannot survive one day against Nigerian army. You will be surrounded, captured and used for idol shrine sacrifice.

agaugust:


SA has only one satellite, and it's NOT military satellite. SIPRI reports it as a mere observation satellite. It's the type used by Russian ministry of defence which is a civilian agency not an army.

One satellite alone is all you have, you go blind when it orbits away from Africa.

Three satellites Nigeria has and many more on order, we can view the whole world from different orbit positions.

ATR-42 has 407 km range radar spying from so far away, so how will your 15 km range Umkhonto missile sh.oot it down?

SA has three operational satellites.

Sipri listed SA satellite as surveillance (spy) satellite. If you do not have info just keep your cassava stinking mouth shut.