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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:23pm On Sep 06, 2015
coogar:


drogba was a beast in his own right as well but beast pass beast......
when henry was at his prime and he had this rivalry with ruud, henry was untouchable. you need to see the kinda goals that dude was scoring for fun in the EPL. i will never forget his goal against united at highbury in that their invincible season. it was from 50 yards or so and the shot just flew straight into the net like a rocket. saha rescued united with a late equaliser......abeg, you couldn't touch henry then.
Drogba was a beast for the crucial occasion while Henry was a regular goal scorer in epl for arsenal.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:24pm On Sep 06, 2015
Henry scored more goals and had the more exquisite talent but there is no doubt that DD had the better performances when it was money time and against tough opposition. This can be seen when you analyze their EPL, UCL and Finals records.
Both were beasts on their day so it is a very subjective debate
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:26pm On Sep 06, 2015
RooRuudRonSaha:
Epl titles drogba shits on henry, fa cup titles didier shits on henry, aerial prowess king didier, national team goals king didier, big games double d is the king, check out drogba's goals against barca in ucl or against madrid when he played for OM, LIVERPOOL WONT FORGET DIDIER, HENRY WAS A KING, DIDIER IS A KING. We are like lawyers, we use our facts in our own favour
You're absolutely on point.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Mourinholic(m): 4:33pm On Sep 06, 2015
afrodoc2:

Henry scored more goals and had the more exquisite talent but there is no doubt that DD had the better performances when it was money time and against tough opposition. This can be seen when you analyze their EPL, UCL and Finals records.
Both were beasts on their day so it is a very subjective debate
On point....have been quiet on the issue because guys here just type rubbish as if its not debatable at all.......
If you think Henry,fine....Drogba,cool.......
But using 'far far better',such fellow need a rethink

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:36pm On Sep 06, 2015
coogar:


don't change your mind......drogba has always played in a much better team than henry did in the EPL.
if you have a team as strong as chelsea's in the mid-2000s with an evil genius of a manager known as mourinho, then you would always score in a cup final. last week, SAF said he made so many decisions that has cost united plenty of titles. all those times SAF would leave the big guns on the bench and play rookies in cup finals are foolish decisions jose mourinho would never make. as far as jose is concerned, every match is worth winning----he doesn't downplay any competition.



drogba & henry played the same number of league games in the EPL....henry scored 70 league goals more.
Drogba played lesser games at international level when compared to Henry but had more goals.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 4:41pm On Sep 06, 2015
Mourinholic:

On point....have been quiet on the issue because guys here just type rubbish as if its not debatable at all.......
If you think Henry,fine....Drogba,cool.......
But using 'far far better',such fellow need a rethink

It just depends on personal preference.

In a league competition i would choose Henry because over the course of a season his talent will shine through and there will be goals galore.

In a cup or knockout competition i would choose Didier because he is physically and mentally tougher, plays his best when the chips are down and the odds are against him and he almost never fails to rise to the occasion.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 4:42pm On Sep 06, 2015
afrodoc2:

Henry scored more goals and had the more exquisite talent but there is no doubt that DD had the better performances when it was money time and against tough opposition. This can be seen when you analyze their EPL, UCL and Finals records.
Both were beasts on their day so it is a very subjective debate
Gun to your head

Who is the better player ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:46pm On Sep 06, 2015
Mourinholic:

On point....have been quiet on the issue because guys here just type rubbish as if its not debatable at all.......
If you think Henry,fine....Drogba,cool.......
But using 'far far better',such fellow need a rethink
Your last paragraph is why I'm still on this issue. If not sentiment, how will someone with football knowledge say that. It's sure debatable and I will go for DD anytime any day.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 4:53pm On Sep 06, 2015
afrodoc2:


It just depends on personal preference.

In a league competition i would choose Henry because over the course of a season his talent will shine through and there will be goals galore.

In a cup or knockout competition i would choose Didier because he is physically and mentally tougher, plays his best when the chips are down and the odds are against him and he almost never fails to rise to the occasion.
Bro. I'm not sure if you're a Man U fan, objectivity is uncommon among them. This is how sane mind devoid of sentiment should talk not throwing insults like a defenseless teen.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dyabman(m): 5:14pm On Sep 06, 2015
coogar:


drogba was a beast in his own right as well but beast pass beast......
when henry was at his prime and he had this rivalry with ruud, henry was untouchable. you need to see the kinda goals that dude was scoring for fun in the EPL. i will never forget his goal against united at highbury in that their invincible season. it was from 50 yards or so and the shot just flew straight into the net like a rocket. saha rescued united with a late equaliser......abeg, you couldn't touch henry then.

50 yards my foot !! Coogar stop exaggerating !! .. Hazard can't play for Barcelona because he can't handle been under pressure grin .. I'm not surprise again grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:27pm On Sep 06, 2015
Daley Blind is too weak to be a central defender but mehn this Cillesen na confam akpere
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:30pm On Sep 06, 2015
SIRcumalot:

Gun to your head

Who is the better player ?

Gun to my Head. Better player? Henry

Gun to my Head. Final match or last 10minutes or 1 man down? Drogba
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 5:35pm On Sep 06, 2015
There's nothing subjective about it jor.

Thiery Henry is the best striker to have played in the EPL era thus far.

This is the guy many people felt was robbed of a Balon D'or at least twice.

Drogba is a Legend, but Henry is already deified

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by TheNonce: 5:39pm On Sep 06, 2015
shocked Still can't fathom why the _fuck this hopeless argument is taking place on a united thread! Na wa oh? International break no be am!!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 5:42pm On Sep 06, 2015
Nihilist:
There's nothing subjective about it jor.

Thiery Henry is the best striker to have played in the EPL era thus far.

This is the guy many people felt was robbed of a Balon D'or at least twice.

Drogba is a Legend, but Henry is already deified

Henry is the better player but he had some high profile "no shows".
Without thinking far i remember UEFA Cup final against 10 man Galatasaray( Hagi red carded) and the F.A Cup final against Liverpool.

There was something of the flat track bully in Henry (like Berbatov LOL). Legend no doubt and he has a statue in front of the stadium but Drogba performed better in the big games IMO.

In any situation other than a final match or desperation time last 10minutes e.t.c i would choose Henry but in a match for your lives i go with Drogba the ultimate overachiever.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 5:52pm On Sep 06, 2015
afrodoc2:


Henry is the better player but he had some high profile "no shows".
Without thinking far i remember UEFA Cup final against 10 man Galatasaray( Hagi red carded) and the F.A Cup final against Liverpool.

There was something of the flat track bully in Henry (like Berbatov LOL). Legend no doubt and he has a statue in front of the stadium but Drogba performed better in the big games IMO.
As a coach, If I want to win tournaments I'll pick drogba but I'll pick Henry if I want to play league games( though drogba can beast league games also).
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 6:06pm On Sep 06, 2015
afrodoc2:


Henry is the better player but he had some high profile "no shows".
Without thinking far i remember UEFA Cup final against 10 man Galatasaray( Hagi red carded) and the F.A Cup final against Liverpool.

There was something of the flat track bully in Henry (like Berbatov LOL). Legend no doubt and he has a statue in front of the stadium but Drogba performed better in the big games IMO.

In any situation other than a final match or desperation time last 10minutes e.t.c i would choose Henry but in a match for your lives i go with Drogba the ultimate overachiever.

What is this high profile 'No Show'?

In 2003, Henry inspired Arsenal to a 5-1 Trashing of the Inter team that beat them 3-0 only a few weeks before to progress in the UCL

In 2006, Henry went to shit on the Legacy of General Franco by scoring the goal that led Arsenal to become the 1st English team to ever win at the Bernabeu, Knocking Madrid out BTW

Or is it the game against Liverpool that their unbeaten season when he rescued arsenal from a 2-1 deficit at halftime by scoring a Hattrick?

How can Henry be labelled a High Profile no-show? Or a Flat Track Bully?

Henry has scored against [size=18pt]34 of the 35 teams[/size] he has faced in the Barclays Premier League. The only team he faced and not scored against were Swansea City, against whom he played 24 minutes as a substitute during his brief comeback in the 2011/12 season.

Messi hasn't scored in a World Cup or Copa America final. Would you even dare to compare Drogba to Messi on some frivolous 'Big Game Player' games.


Doctor please...I'm a hard in the paint Chelsea fan...but comparing Drogba to Henry is an insult to va va voom.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:13pm On Sep 06, 2015
France 98, Uefa cup 2000 final, euro 2000 final, fa cup 2001 final, world cup 2002, euro 2004, world cup 2006, CL final 2006, euro 2008

Those were some of the high stakes stages where Henry did a Henry. He simply disappeared

Drogba made sure his team won the CL final against all odds
Henry made sure his team lost the CL final against all odds

Most of the titles Henry won he simply tagged along it was only in the league that he scored for fun

Big game for club or country Henry dissappeared

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 6:18pm On Sep 06, 2015
Less than 50% match fit Arda Turan finishing Netherlands at the moment... grin grin


1 assist & 1 goal... cheesy cheesy


2-0... tongue
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:19pm On Sep 06, 2015
Nihilist:


What is this high profile 'No Show'?

In 2003, Henry inspired Arsenal to a 5-1 Trashing of the Inter team that beat them 3-0 only a few weeks before to progress in the UCL

In 2006, Henry went to shit on the Legacy of General Franco by scoring the goal that led Arsenal to become the 1st English team to ever win at the Bernabeu, Knocking Madrid out BTW

Or is it the game against Liverpool that their unbeaten season when he rescued arsenal from a 2-1 deficit at halftime by scoring a Hattrick?

How can Henry be labelled a High Profile no-show? Or a Flat Track Bully?

Henry has scored against [size=18pt]34 of the 35 teams[/size] he has faced in the Barclays Premier League. The only team he faced and not scored against were Swansea City, against whom he played 24 minutes as a substitute during his brief comeback in the 2011/12 season.

Messi hasn't scored in a World Cup or Copa America final. Would you even dare to compare Drogba to Messi on some frivolous 'Big Game Player' games.


Doctor please...I'm a hard in the paint Chelsea fan...but comparing Drogba to Henry is an insult to va va voom.

Anybody can be compared to anybody bros.
I have said Henry is the better player but Drogba had a better record in finals.
Are you talking of the Madrid side that finished 12 points behind Barca and 2 points ahead of Osasuna? It was a relatively weak Madrid side.
The Inter victory which i remember cos of the way Henry disgraced Zanetti was a group stage match if i remember correctly.

You can compare 2 greats of the game. Henry was the better player but Drogba performed better in big games.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 6:22pm On Sep 06, 2015
raumdeuter:
France 98, Uefa cup 2000 final, euro 2000 final, fa cup 2001 final, world cup 2002, euro 2004, world cup 2006, CL final 2006, euro 2008

Those were some of the high stakes stages where Henry did a Henry. He simply disappeared

Drogba made sure his team win the CL final against all odds
Henry made sure his team lost the CL final against all odds

Most of the titles Henry won he simply tagged along it was only in the league that he scored for fun

Big game for club or country Henry dissappeared
Wait! Wait!!. Am I dreaming. Somebody don hack this bros moniker. shocked shocked
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 6:23pm On Sep 06, 2015
afrodoc2:


Gun to my Head. Better player? Henry

Gun to my Head. Final match or last 10minutes or 1 man down? Drogba
first part is good enough.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:23pm On Sep 06, 2015
Omo Dutch football is dead....it is sad cry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:25pm On Sep 06, 2015
hensben:
Wait! Wait!!. Am I dreaming. Somebody don hack this bros moniker. shocked shocked

I wrote about the Henry myth on the chelsea thread like 2 weeks ago. It's only those who didn't watch him in his career and only saw his statue would think he's all that

Henry simply attached to success. Even his only CL he attached to the great barca team. For France anytime Zidane is missing Henry never delivered
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by parrotibaba(m): 6:33pm On Sep 06, 2015
Mehn this Netherlands team na lipsrsealed When they had the chance of giving Ronald Koeman the manager's job after LVG left, they flopped massively. I don't think they will qualify barring a miracle. sad
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:37pm On Sep 06, 2015
For those who think it's is a capital punishment for a striker to drop deep or out of position.

I always say when a centre forward stays put in the box, he might just as well be blocking the route to goal for team mates if he cannot score or get marked out. We saw this last season.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by hensben(m): 6:39pm On Sep 06, 2015
raumdeuter:


I wrote about the Henry myth on the chelsea thread like 2 weeks ago. It's only those who didn't watch him in his career and only saw his statue would think he's all that

Henry simply attached to success. Even his only CL he attached to the great barca team. For France anytime Zidane is missing Henry never delivered
Exactly! This is the point I'm trying to pass across. Saying Henry is 50000 times better than drogba(cooger comes to mind) is just been naive and blinded by sentiment. Both are good but if I'm to be a coach I'll choose drogba ahead of Henry due to his(drogba) ' never give up attitude', his doggedness in crucial games.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:42pm On Sep 06, 2015
afrodoc2:
Omo Dutch football is dead....it is sad cry

It's unimaginable how they have fallen so suddenly and so deeply.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nihilist: 6:44pm On Sep 06, 2015
afrodoc2:


Anybody can be compared to anybody bros.
I have said Henry is the better player but Drogba had a better record in finals.
Are you talking of the Madrid side that finished 12 points behind Barca and 2 points ahead of Osasuna? It was a relatively weak Madrid side.
The Inter victory which i remember cos of the way Henry disgraced Zanetti was a group stage match if i remember correctly.

You can compare 2 greats of the game. Henry was the better player but Drogba performed better in big games.


The Inter Game was a 'must win' group match if Arsenal were to proceed to the knockout stages. That's a high profile big game against the 2nd best team in Italy at the time.

Finishing 2nd, 12 points behind the Barca team that would win a double+ super cup that year does not make Madrid 'poor'. As we know Barcelona would do that to any other team in the world.

Listing Arsenal's biggest rivals during his era,one would argue that games against these opponents can be justifiably classed as 'Big Games'

Overall Arsenal record: 316 starts, 215 goals.

vs Manchester United: Games 13, Goals 8
vs Tottenham Hotspur: Games 12, Goals 5
vs Chelsea: Games 17, Goals 8.
vs Liverpool: Games 15, Goals 8.
Big Game totals: Games 57, Goals 29.

Infact one would argue that due to the nature of the quality of teams he faced in some of his finals (Brazil,Italy,Barca), he was facing the only teams in the world with quality to nullify Henry's goal threat

So I'm not sure how Drogba is that much better than Henry in these 'Big Games'

He got the red card against you guys in the UCL final in Moscow. In the UCL final against Bayern he gave away a penalty, which if Robben had converted, we would probably not have won. He missed a penalty in the 2006 final shootout against Egypt. then failed from the spot during the 2012 final against Zambia.

Is it scoring in a couple of FA Cup finals that makes the Drogba the better 'Big Game' Player?

I don't like the idea of demystifying a Chelsea Legend, but Henry >> Drogba in every aspect .
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 6:44pm On Sep 06, 2015
Nihilist:
What is this high profile 'No Show'?

In 2003, Henry inspired Arsenal to a 5-1 Trashing of the Inter team that beat them 3-0 only a few weeks before to progress in the UCL
bring the greatest defenders from any generation into Inter's rear & Henry would have terrified them that night!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 6:50pm On Sep 06, 2015
raumdeuter:
France 98, Uefa cup 2000 final, euro 2000 final, fa cup 2001 final, world cup 2002, euro 2004, world cup 2006, CL final 2006, euro 2008

Those were some of the high stakes stages where Henry did a Henry. He simply disappeared

Drogba made sure his team won the CL final against all odds
Henry made sure his team lost the CL final against all odds

Most of the titles Henry won he simply tagged along it was only in the league that he scored for fun

Big game for club or country Henry dissappeared

RooRuudRonSaha, you have an unlikely ally. grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coded01: 6:52pm On Sep 06, 2015
coded01:
Less than 50% match fit Arda Turan finishing Netherlands at the moment... grin grin


1 assist & 1 goal... cheesy cheesy


2-0... tongue


Arda Turan subbed in the 57th min, yet turkey added another goal...3-0 Netherlands... grin

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