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Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by TonyeBarcanista(m): 9:09pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
VickJames:Guy, I DON'T care about who own the OML. I want Resource Control that will benefit SS communities. Can't you get it? 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 9:10pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
YoundDoctor:[size=14pt] That cuz no igbo Man pushed for it... it was a 100% South South struggle..[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Ugomba(m): 9:11pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Whats the essence of creating this thread? |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by ichukwu48: 9:11pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vladimiros: You are so dumb it's ridiculous. the 13% would remain FOREVER. Every effort to increase it have been either thrown away by the north or ignored. While I'm at it, incase you are not aware or never read any history book EVER, in 1958, the oil derivation for every oil producing community was 50% which took a dramatic decline to 10% to 1968. It is currently moved to the 13% which does not seem to be changed and will never be changed judging from every factors we see today. While I'm at it, peter odili must be chinese to you since you've been asking the stupidiest question repeatedly. 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 9:13pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
ichukwu48: [size=14pt]do you even knopw the job of NDDC and how much is their budget? do you know the job of Ministry of Niger Delta and how much is their budget if you know what the NDDC does, you would know that the 13% is small... continue..[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 9:14pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vladimiros:You want us to start again? It is no longer Niger delta, now you've jumped to SS.. But who are the people from south south that pushed for it, if at all no Igbo man pushed for tge support of 13% oil derivation for all oil producing states? which some states are not even in south south. Besides there are Igbo's in south south... But never minding... 3 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by ichukwu48: 9:16pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vladimiros: Which groups are currently ignoring and fighting Ogoni wish for self government? Is it or is not Other RIVER STATE MINORITIES? yes or no? Which groups are currently fighting Ndoki and Egbema wish to be returned back to the state that were carved out of? Is it or is not not again SS group? Heck who's all over NL changing their history? Which group are currently fighting against Anioma state creation? Is it or is not again other SS groups? Mind you I'm from Delta state...Delta North precisely. You can stay on NL lying to yourself, those of us that grew up in SS knows WTF is happening in SS 4 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 9:16pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
YoundDoctor: [size=14pt]THERE are Igbos in SS, but the biggest campaigners for the 13% WERE NOT IGBO just drop it... Obong Attah and the Swao Wiwas are far from Igbo... same with the Ijaws and Ogonis[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 9:18pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: You want it and you fold your hands? how will it come to fruition? You mentioned ken sawo wiwa and likes who were failures bc you folks are still rendered helpless. though they tried... So what are you doing to make this happen or you wanna do it through keyboard struggle?? 9 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by HopeAtHand: 9:18pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: I saw that thread, the Op is obviously Igbo..Igbos usually resort to insulting any tribe that does not support/side them in whatever misguided and irrational step they take, especially tribes/ethnicities from the former eastern region. Callin the Niger Deltans names does not detract from the fact that we have made efforts to better our lot in Nigeria..Nigeria is a very complex, difficult country to navigate..there must be steady and wide consultations, bargainings and "political lobbying" to get even the basic things done..it may not be proper but one has to learn that the peculiarity of Nigeria has made the country so..Igbos being a major tribe have not even fared better and as such want out..wanting out though, does not guarantee Eldorado, there are no certainties as the rot has gone deep into all ethnic groups and tribes. Igbos should either assist Niger Deltans achieve so much within Nigeria or leave us alone.we dont need their distractions. 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by TheOnlyWiseMan: 9:18pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: Hmmmm. 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 9:18pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
ichukwu48: Anioma state creation is a pipedream.. lets be honest to ourselves here, if the Anioma state talk goes to senate it would be squashed, and we would get alienated.. right now lets do with what we have and not fight for every land.. |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by ichukwu48: 9:19pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vladimiros: I'll repeat what I said earlier..you are slow as it gets. Going down from 50% derivation to 13% derivation is NOTHING TO BE PROUD ABOUT. You went down and there are no effort being made to change that. 3 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by basilo101: 9:20pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Lol, Midwest was Azikiwe's brainchild to remove igbos in Anioma from the grip of Awolowo, remember Dennis Osadebey ruled midwest. Ikwere ppl met wit Zik several times to help create Portharcourt state to remove ijaws, abacha later created Bayelsa for the ijaws while Rivers retained PH. Adaka Boro and Saro Wiwa were killed like Chikens, Ojukwu who fought a full scale war was pardoned and given state burial. Igbos supported GEJ to restructure nigeria which will greatly benefit the SS but the parasitic north and west ganged up to scuttle that. 16 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 9:20pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
YoundDoctor: [size=14pt]do you even know how Oil Licenses work? if a South South company gets the license, the SS wont benefit from it we benfit from the tax being paid, it does not matter if the Company is chinese or fulani[/size] 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by ichukwu48: 9:21pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vladimiros: You see exactly WTF I'm saying. I'll repeat my statement: The people fighting against those wanting to fix their situation in SS has always been other SS groups. Hence I'll state again, SS is helpless and ignorant. 12 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Preyetonye(m): 9:21pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista:Igbo man been lookin out for himself since time memorial, Even going as far trying to disunite d SS for their own selfish reasons, removin d likes of edo, n western-delta frm SS, because they knw they need d likes bayelsa(for oil), PH (for seaport) and Cross river n akwa-ibom for population in their so-called biafra, SS is made up of 6states no goin back, we r united n we r nt biafrans, eyes-up!!! 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 9:22pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
ichukwu48: [size=14pt]at least they heard us?? thne they created a Commision for us and a Ministry to attract Non Oil investments into our SS now what has the Nigerian Government done for your South east tears? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING..[/size] 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Ugomba(m): 9:22pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vladimiros:how is Anioma state a pipedream? Tell me |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 9:22pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vladimiros: First you said that you people didn't ask for 13% derivation? I gave you the benefit of doubt to know if you are mistaken. Now that am giving you the benefit of doubt, why not leverage on that and prove it to me by telling me the personalities that participated on 13% derivation for all oil producing state? Give me names... Mind you those peoples name you just mentioned were failures to ND, they couldn't even get 1% oil derivation let alone resource control. 5 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 9:23pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
ichukwu48: when I said its a pipedream I meant the yorubas and Fulanis would never let it happen... you igbos need to realize who to make friends with. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by VickJames(m): 9:23pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: Now, how is the fight for resource control coming up? any news yet? stop saying wishful things and fight for the things that can be given to you. 8 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Sweetguy25: 9:25pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
Was there any South South in 1994? 6 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 9:26pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vladimiros: Just listen to yourself... I guess you are happy via cheer ignorance getting tax money... So what's the essence of resource control then? Since you enjoy 100% tax of your oil resources. Stark illiterate and jingoistic fella. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by davo3286: 9:27pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
TonyeBarcanista: Yes, he is right. More than 80% of us, so called Niger Deltans, are ignorant. The remaining 20% are mindful. While ALL of us are helpless. So, my guy stop exhibiting your ignorance of the fact because it is clear. 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by vladimiros: 9:29pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
ichukwu48: [size=14pt]Fulanis have been clamoring for grazing lands since the 1970s, yet nothing.. Yorubas, well yorubas have been clamouring for whatever suites them, yet nothing we SS fought for Derivation we got 13%, a Development Commision and a Government Ministry and you say " they did not hear us" haba!![/size] 1 Like |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by Nobody: 9:30pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
vladimiros: Am not a fool as I didn't say so... But coming to the question if he failed the ND as a whole.? Mehn the guy is a failure in quote. Coming to Igbo agenda to us... Is it the Igbo's from the SS or from the SE. And who are the US? Is the Ijaws,annangs,itshekiri,Edo? Be specific so I can understand what you mean by Igbo agenda. 3 Likes |
Re: Calling Niger Deltans "Ignorant And Helpless" Is The Height Of Cluelessness by arresa: 9:32pm On Dec 06, 2015 |
VickJames: With your own current predicament, history and state of hopelessness, you are definitely in worse situation and you have no business calling other people clueless. Look in the mirror.. 2 Likes |
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